Vashtix said:

luvgirl said:

Vashtix said:

Can you imagine your man telling you that about another woman?

Prince mentioned revenge if that is true-

He was getting revenge. Who would he need to get revenge too? Who was he paying back? Who left him and he was getting another one just like them? SHowing he could be married and to prove the point the replacement/revenge is every where fulfilling the role of dynamic duo that was vacated.

Strawberrylova123 said:

Vashtix said:

purplegirl00 said:

pnv said:

purplegirl00 said:

TOB said in one of threads removed, that in her writings, Vanity asked Prince, knowingly, for more than he could afford to give her an excuse to leave him and the movie production. In a Playboy interview She gave in 1988, she said that the money was more of an excuse. L

I guess she was really looking for a way out. I'm sure she still loved him. Put she needed to branch out and be more independent......

Exactly!

Admire that too that she walked away to be her own person. She had a career prior to coming into the Prince fold. I could imagine not wanted the harems and she was getting offers , from big names in the biz at the time- Motown was a big deal back then. Imagine giving that up and losing yourself in someone else's dream as she said in that Palyboy interview.

Vashtix said:

pnv said:

purplegirl00 said:

NotACleverName said:

purplegirl00 said:

TOB said in one of threads removed, that in her writings, Vanity asked Prince, knowingly, for more than he could afford to give her an excuse to leave him and the movie production. In a Playboy interview She gave in 1988, she said that the money was more of an excuse. L

You know, TOB can say whatever he wants it doesn't make it fact and it doesn't change historical truth. You are all speculating here. Not one iota of your fantastical opining about Prince's sadness over Denise's marriage is true. Taking that statement (Vanity's request for more PR $ and Prince's sadness) under consideration with a more neutral, practical view, I would imagine he was upset because production was slated to start and this, potentially, was going to impact the movie in a very negative way. He now had a very short amount of time to secure a new leading lady....not an easy endeavor, I'm sure. I would think if you love someone and want them to succeed, you would not do something to risk their failure. Some of y'all might want to reflect back on the Andy Allo and Prince threads and consider your participation here.

Here we go. He is her brother-in-law and has her e-mails and letters. He even put some of the material up on the site for us to view. TOB claims they corresponded for years. He would know more than you or anyone else

It was well known out of Vanity's own mouth that she wanted more money and that they were not even a couple anymore when the movie was getting started.

NotACleverName said:

Vashtix said:

pnv said:

luvgirl said: Wow very interesting and quite revealing.

Can you imagine your man telling you that about another woman?

I cannot but Mayte is/was not that bright or just did not care.

pnv said:

NotACleverName said:

You know, TOB can say whatever he wants it doesn't make it fact and it doesn't change historical truth. You are all speculating here. Not one iota of your fantastical opining about Prince's sadness over Denise's marriage is true. Taking that statement (Vanity's request for more PR $ and Prince's sadness) under consideration with a more neutral, practical view, I would imagine he was upset because production was slated to start and this, potentially, was going to impact the movie in a very negative way. He now had a very short amount of time to secure a new leading lady....not an easy endeavor, I'm sure. I would think if you love someone and want them to succeed, you would not do something to risk their failure. Some of y'all might want to reflect back on the Andy Allo and Prince threads and consider your participation here.

Please!!! I been down with Prince since day one. Prince and Denise had that one of a kind bond since 1982 to 2016 no woman have even come close to taking her place. 2 exwives numerous girlfriends could not touch Denise!! He went out of his way to get messages through to Denise!! Whenever u have his associates Morris Day Jimmy Jamm Appolonia Downtown Julie Brown speaking on this love then that's what u go with. Most of these young girls weren't even born when P and D were together. So please I don't need to look an AA thread. We talking something much deeper! THIS WOMAN helped to inspire this man greatly from music to life decisions!!! Nobody could touch this woman in Princes heart. He talking to current girlfriends about her!!! That's how special she was.

Jill Jones said Vanity was the love of his life.

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

pnv said:

NotACleverName said: Please!!! I been down with Prince since day one. Prince and Denise had that one of a kind bond since 1982 to 2016 no woman have even come close to taking her place. 2 exwives numerous girlfriends could not touch Denise!! He went out of his way to get messages through to Denise!! Whenever u have his associates Morris Day Jimmy Jamm Appolonia Downtown Julie Brown speaking on this love then that's what u go with. Most of these young girls weren't even born when P and D were together. So please I don't need to look an AA thread. We talking something much deeper! THIS WOMAN helped to inspire this man greatly from music to life decisions!!! Nobody could touch this woman in Princes heart. He talking to current girlfriends about her!!! That's how special she was.

Jill Jones said Vanity was the love of his life.

pnv said:

DD55 said:

DD55 said:

laurarichardson said:

Jill Jones said Vanity was the love of his life.

I agree with NotACleverName, we don’t know that what TOB is saying fact. We simply do not know. He posts supposed messages from Denise which are transcribed. He does not scan and post the original document, we do not see dates, signatures and context. From what I’ve read, most of the stuff is aimless ramblings which are hard to follow, my eyes glaze over after 5 lines. P was friends with lots of people throughout his life, W&L, Sheila, etc.

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On one hand people say they know that P gets what he wants, not one tells him what to do, if he wanted something to happen then it would; but then they paint him as this lonely guy pining away for an old girlfriend. He went to Canada for Mani, Cali for Andy… if he wanted Denise in his life ie. girlfriend, wouldn’t you think it would have happened? Does JJ really know his true feelings after she left his circle? Do you think he confided in her that way after she left? Seriously?

JJ was talking about his true feelings while she was in his circle. Some of the things Vanity said are in her book Blame It On Vanity which TOB scanned. If he posted the letters and e-mails some of you still would not belive it but in time I think he will. Denise was not in his life because she decided to leave and there was nothing he could do to make her stay. The fact that he was still talking about her to his wife 10 years after she left should tell you something.

NotACleverName said:

pnv said:

Please!!! I been down with Prince since day one. Prince and Denise had that one of a kind bond since 1982 to 2016 no woman have even come close to taking her place. 2 exwives numerous girlfriends could not touch Denise!! He went out of his way to get messages through to Denise!! Whenever u have his associates Morris Day Jimmy Jamm Appolonia Downtown Julie Brown speaking on this love then that's what u go with. Most of these young girls weren't even born when P and D were together. So please I don't need to look an AA thread. We talking something much deeper! THIS WOMAN helped to inspire this man greatly from music to life decisions!!! Nobody could touch this woman in Princes heart. He talking to current girlfriends about her!!! That's how special she was.

Please!!!! Why didn't he ever get back together with her if there was such a deep and devoted love?? It's because he was over her when she left....that was how he operated with all his women. Lots of opportunities but never was seen with her again after the day she walked out of his life. Good heavens....you all need to take a step back from this ridiculous story line.

There is a picture of her going into a party he threw with one of his Parade Era outfits on this was in 86 and people are sayting she was out at Paisley Park in 87. So he did see her again and who knows after that if they saw each other again. He had private relationships that we the public no nothing about. He did this real smart thing called keeping his mouth closed about his personal business.

laurarichardson said:

pnv said:

NotACleverName said:

wtf

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said:

DD55 said:

laurarichardson said:

Jill Jones said Vanity was the love of his life.

I agree with NotACleverName, we don’t know that what TOB is saying fact. We simply do not know. He posts supposed messages from Denise which are transcribed. He does not scan and post the original document, we do not see dates, signatures and context. From what I’ve read, most of the stuff is aimless ramblings which are hard to follow, my eyes glaze over after 5 lines. P was friends with lots of people throughout his life, W&L, Sheila, etc.

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On one hand people say they know that P gets what he wants, not one tells him what to do, if he wanted something to happen then it would; but then they paint him as this lonely guy pining away for an old girlfriend. He went to Canada for Mani, Cali for Andy… if he wanted Denise in his life ie. girlfriend, wouldn’t you think it would have happened? Does JJ really know his true feelings after she left his circle? Do you think he confided in her that way after she left? Seriously?

JJ was talking about his true feelings while she was in his circle. Some of the things Vanity said are in her book Blame It On Vanity which TOB scanned. If he posted the letters and e-mails some of you still would not belive it but in time I think he will. Denise was not in his life because she decided to leave and there was nothing he could do to make her stay. The fact that he was still talking about her to his wife 10 years after she left should tell you something.

He was still sending her flowers in the early 90s and asking her back, and in the last RS article he talked about her too. "No one could talk like her," he said.
Prince was very into what happens after this life and sometimes I wonder if he was looking forward to that more than anything. He did write to Vanity in the last years and said that when we die there's only pleasure. He called her Darling and said that God loved her very much, probably more than ever now (because of her religious/spiritual growth).
She was in the hospital at the time.

Some lines from Big City, Prince's last track on his last album:

"The night is young, much younger than we are"...

"If everybody's a star, to me you're the most pretty"...

"Everybody's getting money instead of getting saved,
not you and me honey, we already gave"...

"I just came to tell y'all
from the darkest desperation to the highest bliss,
Power to the ones aware of the bigger than this."

The lyrics about being saved just came to me as I was reading so I thought I'd share my thoughts. You just never know what another person is truly thinking, how he feels about people, etc. Worth considering anyway for anyone interested.

I think Prince might've loved and thought of more than one woman at once and differently, even perhaps in the same song
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Prince public announcement of annulment I believe was based on why people get annulled in the first place.

Bigamy - either party was already married to another person at the time of the marriage

Forced Consent - one of the spouses was forced or threatened into marriage and only entered into it under duress

Fraud - one of the spouses agreed to the marriage based on the lies or misrepresentation of the other

Marriage Prohibited By Law - marriage between parties that based on their familial relationship is considered incestuous

Mental Illness - either spouse was mentally ill or emotionally disturbed at the time of the marriage

Mental Incapacity - either spouse was under the influence of alcohol or drugs at the time of the marriage and was unable to make informed consent

Inability to Consummate Marriage - either spouse was physically incapable of having sexual relations or impotent during the marriage

Underage Marriage - either spouse was too young to enter into marriage without parental consent or court approval

Given he behavior following that, I'm going with he was publically stating his marriage was based on fraud, in his mind.

Then he follows up with "The Greatest Romance That's Ever Been Sold" I think it's obvious his state of mind.

It wasn't about what was legal, it was a declaration to the world. Why?