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Reply #120 posted 01/26/17 6:28pm

Vashtix

tigerlilyluv said:

contropurple said:

benni said: Thanks for your candidness. I seen this before. You explained it really well. This could well have been the case with P and D. I think she recognised the behaviour too.

Deliverance from God. You recognize your mistakes, learn from it, and become wiser. I commend her for her strong faith and dedication in God. She said she was in love with the Prince of Peace (God). God became the head of Denise's life and she didn't let anyone take that away from her. Her past is a testimony to how great God works. She passed still devoted to living for Christ, the Prince of Peace, for God. That alone makes you want to love her even more. Her sermons are a must-watch!

That is what I find fascinating she never waivered publicly. She was a true daughter of Jesus. It is something to sele someone decide to change their life and change their life. I honor her for that.

Her sermons are something to hear. I enjoy listening to her. She was a firecracker for Jesus. biggrin

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Reply #121 posted 01/26/17 6:42pm

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My opinion of Prince and Vanity...I think they had an intense relationship, in Denise's own words, a "love/hate relationship". They were young, in an exciting period of their lives, on the rise to superstardom and sharing that experience together. They were in love, they were passionate. I don't think P had ever met anyone like her before and the fact they were so similar certainly caused a tumultuous affair. The fact she left him broke his heart. I think this had a profound effect on him for the rest of his life. Didn't he always pick women who were young, naive, who he could dominate and control after her? Was this his way of not having his heart broken again? I don't subscribe to the notion of soul mates in their respect though. I believe they had a bond because of what they shared and a spiritual connection but not to the extent of still being "in love". It's obvious they stayed in touch and cared about each other. I believe when Denise died P was already personally in a bad place. I think her death hit him hard and also made him question his own mortality. It's a natural reaction when someone u care about dies and they're also a similar age. This will have pushed him over the edge into a deep depression. Depression causes bad choices and judgement, so inadvertently her death likely did contribute to his demise.
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Reply #122 posted 01/26/17 7:10pm

FlyOnTheWall

ChanGirl said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

No, my Prince and Andy threads have been pulled again, Chan, so that gives me lots of time to participate here on this very interesting thread. BTW, please tell me how I have contradicted myself?

Fly, I understand that - for u - talking about Denise is like studying ancient history. I'm sure the mods will release your PRINDY thread soon. Or u can always create another one wink

What do you mean, "ancient history"? I don't understand. And, I hope you're right that the threads will be back soon. If so, there is no need for another Prince and Andy thread. There would be only one active thread now, Part II, if you guys didn't keep insisting that the discussion be limited to their music, while ignoring their relationship.

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Reply #123 posted 01/26/17 7:23pm

Vashtix

petalthecat said:

My opinion of Prince and Vanity...I think they had an intense relationship, in Denise's own words, a "love/hate relationship". They were young, in an exciting period of their lives, on the rise to superstardom and sharing that experience together. They were in love, they were passionate. I don't think P had ever met anyone like her before and the fact they were so similar certainly caused a tumultuous affair. The fact she left him broke his heart. I think this had a profound effect on him for the rest of his life. Didn't he always pick women who were young, naive, who he could dominate and control after her? Was this his way of not having his heart broken again? I don't subscribe to the notion of soul mates in their respect though. I believe they had a bond because of what they shared and a spiritual connection but not to the extent of still being "in love". It's obvious they stayed in touch and cared about each other. I believe when Denise died P was already personally in a bad place. I think her death hit him hard and also made him question his own mortality. It's a natural reaction when someone u care about dies and they're also a similar age. This will have pushed him over the edge into a deep depression. Depression causes bad choices and judgement, so inadvertently her death likely did contribute to his demise.

She was his contemporary. They made history with each other -

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Reply #124 posted 01/26/17 7:33pm

FlyOnTheWall

petalthecat said:

My opinion of Prince and Vanity...I think they had an intense relationship, in Denise's own words, a "love/hate relationship". They were young, in an exciting period of their lives, on the rise to superstardom and sharing that experience together. They were in love, they were passionate. I don't think P had ever met anyone like her before and the fact they were so similar certainly caused a tumultuous affair. The fact she left him broke his heart. I think this had a profound effect on him for the rest of his life. Didn't he always pick women who were young, naive, who he could dominate and control after her? Was this his way of not having his heart broken again? I don't subscribe to the notion of soul mates in their respect though. I believe they had a bond because of what they shared and a spiritual connection but not to the extent of still being "in love". It's obvious they stayed in touch and cared about each other. I believe when Denise died P was already personally in a bad place. I think her death hit him hard and also made him question his own mortality. It's a natural reaction when someone u care about dies and they're also a similar age. This will have pushed him over the edge into a deep depression. Depression causes bad choices and judgement, so inadvertently her death likely did contribute to his demise.

I agree that Prince was not in a good place, even before Denise died. If his appearance was a true indicator, his health was failing. Based on his actions in the preceding months, he was also trying desperately to pull Andy back into his life. Her continued absence, I believe, left him very lonely and depressed. Without a doubt, Denise's passing compounded the situation.

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In terms of his PAAM shows, though, which have been mentioned a lot on this and recent Vanity/Denise threads, songs like Bill Withers' "Use Me" were not about a past relationship, by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was his comment after singing "Screwdriver" at one of the shows. "She didn't like that one. I meant it as a joke," he said. These are just two examples where I think he was talking and singing about Andy Allo.

[Edited 1/26/17 20:06pm]

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Reply #125 posted 01/26/17 7:34pm

luvgirl

I finally figured it out! Check out this awesome tribute to Denise. In the end she was so vulnerable. Especially when she thought the interviewer was asking her about Prince. I just wanted to hug her... broken
The song is beautiful too.

http://vid44.photobucket....p7ypf8.mp4
[Edited 1/26/17 20:04pm]
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Reply #126 posted 01/26/17 8:44pm

tigerlilyluv

luvgirl said:

I finally figured it out! Check out this awesome tribute to Denise. In the end she was so vulnerable. Especially when she thought the interviewer was asking her about Prince. I just wanted to hug her... broken The song is beautiful too. http://vid44.photobucket....p7ypf8.mp4 [Edited 1/26/17 20:04pm]


Very sweet. She was such a sweetheart, and a very beautiful lady of God. Prince saw beauty in everyone but Denise had to have been Prince's Most Beautiful. Being she was a huge part of PRain (the most sucessful part of his career) without pysically being there (as in her leaving before filming), as well Prince's love before he hit stardom, that alone would make easy to understand he likely held a special place in his heart for the lovely Denise--somewhere deep where she was the only one able to reach. It became more than a love/hate relationship to something truly special--spiritually special. Before anyone attack, it's only my opinion! smh.

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Reply #127 posted 01/26/17 8:58pm

luvgirl

Did you guys read this part of the prologue in Alex Hanh's new book coming out February 28th?

This bookā€™s gripping, 50-page prologue provides a nearly day-to-day account of the events that unfolded between November 2015 and April 21, 2016, when Prince tragically died at Paisley Park. The great distance traveled by Prince during his final months ā€“ tours of Australia and New Zealand, a funeral in the Bay Area for former muse and lover Denise Matthews, a tour of Canada, and a final return home ā€“ in some ways mirrored on a grand scale Princeā€™s nomadic childhood, to which the book returns after detailing the events of 2016.

My interest is kind of piqued. I hope there is a better account of Denise's time with Prince...
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Reply #128 posted 01/26/17 9:02pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

petalthecat said:

My opinion of Prince and Vanity...I think they had an intense relationship, in Denise's own words, a "love/hate relationship". They were young, in an exciting period of their lives, on the rise to superstardom and sharing that experience together. They were in love, they were passionate. I don't think P had ever met anyone like her before and the fact they were so similar certainly caused a tumultuous affair. The fact she left him broke his heart. I think this had a profound effect on him for the rest of his life. Didn't he always pick women who were young, naive, who he could dominate and control after her? Was this his way of not having his heart broken again? I don't subscribe to the notion of soul mates in their respect though. I believe they had a bond because of what they shared and a spiritual connection but not to the extent of still being "in love". It's obvious they stayed in touch and cared about each other. I believe when Denise died P was already personally in a bad place. I think her death hit him hard and also made him question his own mortality. It's a natural reaction when someone u care about dies and they're also a similar age. This will have pushed him over the edge into a deep depression. Depression causes bad choices and judgement, so inadvertently her death likely did contribute to his demise.

I agree that Prince was not in a good place, even before Denise died. If his appearance was a true indicator, his health was failing. Based on his actions in the preceding months, he was also trying desperately to pull Andy back into his life. Her continued absence, I believe, left him very lonely and depressed. Without a doubt, Denise's passing compounded the situation.

.

In terms of his PAAM shows, though, which have been mentioned a lot on this and recent Vanity/Denise threads, songs like Bill Withers' "Use Me" were not about a past relationship, by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was his comment after singing "Screwdriver" at one of the shows. "She didn't like that one. I meant it as a joke," he said. These are just two examples where I think he was talking and singing about Andy Allo.

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Can you PLEASE stop bringing Andy Allo in EVERY thread ?????

You sound OBSESSED ! hammer mad

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Reply #129 posted 01/26/17 9:11pm

luvgirl

tigerlilyluv said:



luvgirl said:


I finally figured it out! Check out this awesome tribute to Denise. In the end she was so vulnerable. Especially when she thought the interviewer was asking her about Prince. I just wanted to hug her... broken The song is beautiful too. http://vid44.photobucket....p7ypf8.mp4 [Edited 1/26/17 20:04pm]



Very sweet. She was such a sweetheart, and a very beautiful lady of God. Prince saw beauty in everyone but Denise had to have been Prince's Most Beautiful. Being she was a huge part of PRain (the most sucessful part of his career) without pysically being there (as in her leaving before filming), as well Prince's love before he hit stardom, that alone would make easy to understand he likely held a special place in his heart for the lovely Denise--somewhere deep where she was the only one able to reach. It became more than a love/hate relationship to something truly special--spiritually special. Before anyone attack, it's only my opinion! smh.

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Man, take a good look at some of her drawings in the interview part. She was amazingly talented.
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Reply #130 posted 01/26/17 9:51pm

tigerlilyluv

luvgirl said:

tigerlilyluv said:


Very sweet. She was such a sweetheart, and a very beautiful lady of God. Prince saw beauty in everyone but Denise had to have been Prince's Most Beautiful. Being she was a huge part of PRain (the most sucessful part of his career) without pysically being there (as in her leaving before filming), as well Prince's love before he hit stardom, that alone would make easy to understand he likely held a special place in his heart for the lovely Denise--somewhere deep where she was the only one able to reach. It became more than a love/hate relationship to something truly special--spiritually special. Before anyone attack, it's only my opinion! smh.

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Man, take a good look at some of her drawings in the interview part. She was amazingly talented.

God-given talent! I wish I knew where her artwork can be seen. I want to put some pictures of her work on my website. Those paintings! That lady had style and good taste. Even those items she was selling on Instagram were quite beautiful. Her cats. sad I wonder where they are.

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Reply #131 posted 01/26/17 10:47pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

petalthecat said:

My opinion of Prince and Vanity...I think they had an intense relationship, in Denise's own words, a "love/hate relationship". They were young, in an exciting period of their lives, on the rise to superstardom and sharing that experience together. They were in love, they were passionate. I don't think P had ever met anyone like her before and the fact they were so similar certainly caused a tumultuous affair. The fact she left him broke his heart. I think this had a profound effect on him for the rest of his life. Didn't he always pick women who were young, naive, who he could dominate and control after her? Was this his way of not having his heart broken again? I don't subscribe to the notion of soul mates in their respect though. I believe they had a bond because of what they shared and a spiritual connection but not to the extent of still being "in love". It's obvious they stayed in touch and cared about each other. I believe when Denise died P was already personally in a bad place. I think her death hit him hard and also made him question his own mortality. It's a natural reaction when someone u care about dies and they're also a similar age. This will have pushed him over the edge into a deep depression. Depression causes bad choices and judgement, so inadvertently her death likely did contribute to his demise.

I agree that Prince was not in a good place, even before Denise died. If his appearance was a true indicator, his health was failing. Based on his actions in the preceding months, he was also trying desperately to pull Andy back into his life. Her continued absence, I believe, left him very lonely and depressed. Without a doubt, Denise's passing compounded the situation.

.

In terms of his PAAM shows, though, which have been mentioned a lot on this and recent Vanity/Denise threads, songs like Bill Withers' "Use Me" were not about a past relationship, by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was his comment after singing "Screwdriver" at one of the shows. "She didn't like that one. I meant it as a joke," he said. These are just two examples where I think he was talking and singing about Andy Allo.

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Hello my dear Flyonthewall. These assertions remain to be confirmed. I hope all is well.

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Reply #132 posted 01/26/17 10:56pm

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Ms Denise Katrina Matthews is/was a beautiful spirit. She and Mr/Dr PRN shared a special love as was evidenced by what he said about her immediately after hearing the devastating news of her passing: "She loved me for the artist that I was; I love her for the artist she was trying to be." From this, I sense that he knew that she loved him unconditionally, warts and all. Thank you TOB for sharing her writings, private letters and artwork.

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Reply #133 posted 01/27/17 1:20am

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amimissinsumthin said:

Ms Denise Katrina Matthews is/was a beautiful spirit. She and Mr/Dr PRN shared a special love as was evidenced by what he said about her immediately after hearing the devastating news of her passing: "She loved me for the artist that I was; I love her for the artist she was trying to be." From this, I sense that he knew that she loved him unconditionally, warts and all. Thank you TOB for sharing her writings, private letters and artwork.


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Reply #134 posted 01/27/17 2:46am

Vashtix

luvgirl said:

Did you guys read this part of the prologue in Alex Hanh's new book coming out February 28th? This bookā€™s gripping, 50-page prologue provides a nearly day-to-day account of the events that unfolded between November 2015 and April 21, 2016, when Prince tragically died at Paisley Park. The great distance traveled by Prince during his final months ā€“ tours of Australia and New Zealand, a funeral in the Bay Area for former muse and lover Denise Matthews, a tour of Canada, and a final return home ā€“ in some ways mirrored on a grand scale Princeā€™s nomadic childhood, to which the book returns after detailing the events of 2016. My interest is kind of piqued. I hope there is a better account of Denise's time with Prince... [Edited 1/26/17 21:01pm]

He is one of the main ones who spoke poorly of Denise and her friendship with Prince. He is loyal or was to another camp and Vanity did not place well. I really have no need to read anything he says of her and her passing. It will be tainted as his prior writings were about Denise, at least he admits Prince attended the funeral. That is enough.

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Reply #135 posted 01/27/17 4:46am

luvgirl

Luvgirl said: Did you guys read this part of the prologue in Alex Hanh's new book coming out February 28th? This bookā€™s gripping, 50-page prologue provides a nearly day-to-day account of the events that unfolded between November 2015 and April 21, 2016, when Prince tragically died at Paisley Park. The great distance traveled by Prince during his final months ā€“ tours of Australia and New Zealand, a funeral in the Bay Area for former muse and lover Denise Matthews, a tour of Canada, and a final return home ā€“ in some ways mirrored on a grand scale Princeā€™s nomadic childhood, to which the book returns after detailing the events of 2016. My interest is kind of piqued. I hope there is a better account of Denise's time with Prince...


Vashtix said: He is one of the main ones who spoke poorly of Denise and her friendship with Prince. He is loyal or was to another camp and Vanity did not place well. I really have no need to read anything he says of her and her passing. It will be tainted as his prior writings were about Denise, at least he admits Prince attended the funeral. That is enough.


I understand you're reluctance Vashtix. I can fault no one for wanting to avoid this. I personally think what colored the tone of the book regarding Denise had more to do with the people he interviewed back then that had their own loyalties and agendas. I'm feeling optimistic that his research will be more varied and extensive with this offer, leading to a more honorable narrative. The fact that her name is even prominent in the prologue gives me hope. I could be absolutely wrong, but there is only one way to find out..
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Reply #136 posted 01/27/17 5:49am

Vashtix

luvgirl said:

Luvgirl said: Did you guys read this part of the prologue in Alex Hanh's new book coming out February 28th? This bookā€™s gripping, 50-page prologue provides a nearly day-to-day account of the events that unfolded between November 2015 and April 21, 2016, when Prince tragically died at Paisley Park. The great distance traveled by Prince during his final months ā€“ tours of Australia and New Zealand, a funeral in the Bay Area for former muse and lover Denise Matthews, a tour of Canada, and a final return home ā€“ in some ways mirrored on a grand scale Princeā€™s nomadic childhood, to which the book returns after detailing the events of 2016. My interest is kind of piqued. I hope there is a better account of Denise's time with Prince...


Vashtix said: He is one of the main ones who spoke poorly of Denise and her friendship with Prince. He is loyal or was to another camp and Vanity did not place well. I really have no need to read anything he says of her and her passing. It will be tainted as his prior writings were about Denise, at least he admits Prince attended the funeral. That is enough.


I understand you're reluctance Vashtix. I can fault no one for wanting to avoid this. I personally think what colored the tone of the book regarding Denise had more to do with the people he interviewed back then that had their own loyalties and agendas. I'm feeling optimistic that his research will be more varied and extensive with this offer, leading to a more honorable narrative. The fact that her name is even prominent in the prologue gives me hope. I could be absolutely wrong, but there is only one way to find out..
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The prologue mentions her death. He sort of had to mention it. I just find all of these people mention her in the most negative ways.
I will wait and see.

There still are agendas with people and Prince since he died. It is sad.
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Reply #137 posted 01/27/17 6:03am

luvgirl

Vashtix said:

luvgirl said:



I understand you're reluctance Vashtix. I can fault no one for wanting to avoid this. I personally think what colored the tone of the book regarding Denise had more to do with the people he interviewed back then that had their own loyalties and agendas. I'm feeling optimistic that his research will be more varied and extensive with this offer, leading to a more honorable narrative. The fact that her name is even prominent in the prologue gives me hope. I could be absolutely wrong, but there is only one way to find out..
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The prologue mentions her death. He sort of had to mention it. I just find all of these people mention her in the most negative ways.
I will wait and see.

There still are agendas with people and Prince since he died. It is sad.


True. Incidentally though, this is the first time I've ever heard one of these books acknowledging her as even being a muse to him... With new info that has come out about Denise now, all I can do is hope for a better narration about her, but I do want to read it to find out what's being said.
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Reply #138 posted 01/27/17 7:59am

purplepoppy

This is a tribute thread to Denise on her Birthday. cake present rose

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #139 posted 01/27/17 8:00am

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Goddess4Real said:

fallinluv

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #140 posted 01/27/17 9:50am

TOB

PaisleyPrint said:

TOB, I just wanna ask, Did Denise ever talk about becoming a mother or of wanting to have children. Just wondering...



Yes... and she ask and DeBorah agreed to be a surrogate when she was married to Anthony.
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Reply #141 posted 01/27/17 9:56am

TOB

PaisleyPrint said:



TOB said:




Vashtix said:



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I think they had a connection that was way beyond the romantic it was not earthly, mortal kind of thing but spiritual as you said transcending space, time, what we can see on a totally different level - I think they were twin flames ( they are not always romantic )





Broken heart syndrome? Iā€™ve yet to read anything on subject.


A series of bad decisions due to grieving? I think, Yes! Although, once I do read about broken heart syndrome will I be asking, what is the difference?


But even so, it would only tell me that they were closer than anyone could have known, and or that she meant more to him then he knew or was willing to admit. Which is perfectly understandable, and from which I know from a similar experience.



At least 4 odd things have occurred to me, beginning on 02.15.16 with Deniseā€™s pasting, which has me rethinking things that I would normally see then file away and dismiss, brush off as coincidence, or best Iā€™d jokingly acknowledge it with the phrase ā€œsomeone is trying to tell me somethingā€ as the very limit of credence that Iā€™d give it.


Up until a month after Denise died I had never been in an ambulance and I had only been to the Emergency Room for myself twice in my life. Once for a bone deep cut from a table saw when I was 19 and then 10 years later when DeBorah forced me to go because she believed I was having an allergic reaction.


In the early morning of March 17, 2016 I was found nonresponsive in the bathroom, and thought at times to be dead or dying. How long was I like that before I was found is unknown, but Iā€™d guess somewhere between 15 to 30 minutes. But within a minute of my reviving paramedics were at the master bedroom bathroom door questioning me, wanting me to immediately come out. I came out within 2 minutes and they continued to question me and immediately began taking my vitals. Iā€™m answering their questions as best I can for about 5 minutes not wanting to be transported to the hospital. Becoming frustrated I stand up showing and telling them that Iā€™m fine, I acknowledged my short history of high blood pressure, and explained that I didnā€™t need to go to the hospital and definitely not in an ambulance.


As I stood there about ready to do jumpjacks or pushups to convince the paramedics it was an overreaction, they just simply referred to and pointed to my blood pressure reading, which had increased a little from the initial reading. It was now flickering up to 78 over 40 something (more than half my normal reading), and upon seeing those numbers my mind flashes back to 32 days ago as I watched Deniseā€™s vital signs. I then sit and comply.



It is silent, nevertheless a very harsh and jarring experience in discovering just how important someone is to you after they are gone.


Reasoning away and belittling your feelings, making excuses for your mood, and all the while telling yourself that you donā€™t want to worry those concerned for you (but honestly, more concerned that no one would understand and not yet in a mood to explain).


These very telling reactions only compounds the dangers of the very real problems that you face in the attempt to try to hide your grief.


With any one of the emotional stages of grief being a threat to your health, how do you survive all the stages if you donā€™t admit you are grieving, in pain, constantly hurting, while feeling required to conceal that pain and make it go away?


Which stage of grief do you treat? Self-medicate to treat the pain the same as any other pain?


4 of the 5 stages grief are dangerous enough to make you not think clearly, some to a point that you donā€™t care what you do.



Was it a bad decision, not paying close enough attention or something else that I did or did not do that landed me in the hospital. The hospital found absolutely nothing wrong with me to explain a condition that has never happen before or since.


So without benefit of a medical diagnosis I simply thought it best to take better care of myself and pay more attention to things I would normally file away and dismiss. But, it is only now that I am willing acknowledge my grief, and learn about the grieving process.




I've explained my agenda in wanting to reveal Denise as more than just a pretty face and show her many other creative and artist interest.


I've explained that I have no desire to promote or elevate Vanity's relationship to Prince.


I've said this many times and it is still not my intent, however my answering a question regarding what initiated their love hate relationship has lead to a series of revelations that makes me wonder, what was it about the other initially and what did it later grow into being.


Why did he want to write his life story soon after she died?


Why entitle it The Beautiful Ones?


Why and how would her death cause his? Which I would normally dismiss if not for my March 17th experience.


Why did she leave me her books, screen play, poetry, pictures, undeveloped film, paintings and storage?


I might be searching for a reason where there is none. I understand that regarding grief, but also because of it I'm going allow myself the time to process it.








Tbh, I believe Prince knew that he would be passing from this existance soon. There was a story in the New York Times shortly after he died that said he told a club owner a couple of days before he died that he saw dead people shocked Now that's scary! Denise was his muse, and her death made him think of his empending departure, thus the title, The Beautiful Ones. According to a press release about the memoir, "Prince will take the reader on an unconventional and poetic journey through his life and creative work". It says the book will include stories about Prince's music and , "the family that shaped him and the people, places and ideas that fired his creative imagination". And of course that would definately include Denise Matthews. Here's the article



timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/books/features/Prince-is-writing-a-memoir-The-Beautiful-Ones/articleshow/51508580.cms



Thank you, l will definitely read it.
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Reply #142 posted 01/27/17 3:20pm

luvgirl

purplepoppy said:

This is a tribute thread to Denise on her Birthday. cake present rose




Tob: Do you intend for this thread to be only a birthday tribute thread as purplepoppy has said, or is it an all around discussion on Denise that may lead into a broad discussion on other topics pertaining her, as we did in the last thread? Just a little clarification so we know what is okay to discuss and post here without recrimination, as I'm sure none of us would want to be disrespectful to the type of thread you are trying to promote.
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Reply #143 posted 01/27/17 4:09pm

joytotheworld

Music was his ONE and ONLY, his life and perhaps what he lived for. Not likely he died of a broken heart since the COUPLES that may have have been together for a long period of time. In this case, they were apart longer than together. No women could ever compete with the Music. Not Denise, Mayte, M2, Sheila, etc. Denise was lovely, but one of many loves in his life. He never moved on from Music as he did with people, places and things. We have the story of his relationship with Music as written and told by Prince. There is nothing documented by Prince that tells the story of Denise and his relationship or the depth of their relationship. Anything that is is second hand and open to intreprtation since it is subjective and the view of the narrator. They were part of each other's story for sure and likely meant to be for that particular time; however, for everything there is a season.

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Reply #144 posted 01/27/17 9:31pm

tigerlilyluv

Her in 2013. Just as beautiful as the young Denise. Skin pretty, too. She said she was 97/98% on organic food. smile Simply beautiful. Blameitonvanty.com is no more.

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Reply #145 posted 01/28/17 8:25am

purplepoppy

Wow, she does look so beautiful. heart

luvgirl - Maybe take the high road on a birthday tribute thread. If you want a Vanity gossip thread you can always start one.

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Reply #146 posted 01/28/17 9:16am

petalthecat

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purplepoppy said:

Wow, she does look so beautiful. heart



luvgirl - Maybe take the high road on a birthday tribute thread. If you want a Vanity gossip thread you can always start one.


It's my understanding it started as a birthday thread but the title was changed so I'd say it's just about Denise and her life and career now.
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Reply #147 posted 01/28/17 9:26am

luvgirl

purplepoppy said:

Wow, she does look so beautiful. heart



luvgirl - Maybe take the high road on a birthday tribute thread. If you want a Vanity gossip thread you can always start one.



Purplepoppy: What is this gossip in which you speak? TOB EDITED this thread from a birthday thread to the Denise Katrina Matthews thread after they shut down the Vanity and Morris Day thread in which we as a community of fans were discussing all things Denise Matthews/Vanity/Prince while TOB shared with us her writings, artwork, and magazines clippings and his thoughts.



He then started this thread and asked this question.

TOB said:
I wonder if there is any interest?
There is so much more to her story... and she tells it.


Implying that he would like to continue the conversation here.

A majority of us gladly stated YES!!! And preceded to pay tribute to her, waxing poetic in our own way... (Go a couple pages back to see my many post paying tribute to her in various ways,) while awaiting TOB, hoping that he would continue to share with us. If a comment or question led to a discussion, then we debated just like we did in the other thread. You then came in, and posted that this was only to be a birthday thread wishing her happy birthday, so I merely questioned TOB on your thoughts as I don't want to be disrespectful if you are indeed correct. Again, what gossip are you speaking of? Are u saying that his sharing with us is gossip? Are you saying we should not speak of her and Prince at all as a couple? Is that the gossip you are speaking of?
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Reply #148 posted 01/28/17 9:36am

purplepoppy

This has not evolved into a thread about her life & career, but you can call it that. Peace out. dove dove

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Reply #149 posted 01/28/17 11:08am

luvgirl

Looking gorgeous here as well. Does anyone know what year the one on the right was? I read a while back that a fan saw her at the airport and took this one, if I'm not mistaken. (On a further look scratch that, that does not look like the background of an airport lol) Maybe ten or so years ago??

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