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Reply #30 posted 01/24/17 10:14pm

FlyOnTheWall

Vashtix said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Vashtix said: The link isn't clickable ❤

Sorry, try copying the link and placing it in the address portion of your browser- it should work then

Duplicate

[Edited 1/24/17 22:19pm]

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Reply #31 posted 01/24/17 10:18pm

FlyOnTheWall

Vashtix said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Vashtix said: Mm interesting...what is the broken heart syndrome?? Sorry google is acting up sad

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/11/science-of-longtime-couples-who-die-together.html

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/debbie-reynolds-carrie-fischer-a-look-at-broken-heart-syndrome-959961

WOW. eek

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Reply #32 posted 01/24/17 11:32pm

Strawberrylova
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FlyOnTheWall said:



Vashtix said:




Strawberrylova123 said:


Vashtix said: Mm interesting...what is the broken heart syndrome?? Sorry google is acting up sad


http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/11/science-of-longtime-couples-who-die-together.html



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/debbie-reynolds-carrie-fischer-a-look-at-broken-heart-syndrome-959961



WOW. eek


Interesting, it does sound like our man's heart was truly broken over Denise 💔💔 i believe it contributed to his demise.
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Reply #33 posted 01/24/17 11:53pm

FlyOnTheWall

Strawberrylova123 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

WOW. eek

Interesting, it does sound like our man's heart was truly broken over Denise 💔💔 i believe it contributed to his demise.

According to the medical examiner, Prince died of an accidental overdose.

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Reply #34 posted 01/24/17 11:56pm

Strawberrylova
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FlyOnTheWall said:



Strawberrylova123 said:


FlyOnTheWall said:


WOW. eek



Interesting, it does sound like our man's heart was truly broken over Denise 💔💔 i believe it contributed to his demise.

According to the medical examiner, Prince died of an accidental overdose.


He died of an OD i know but i said his broken heart contributed to his death 😉😉
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Reply #35 posted 01/25/17 12:13am

tigerlilyluv

Strawberrylova123 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

According to the medical examiner, Prince died of an accidental overdose.

He died of an OD i know but i said his broken heart contributed to his death 😉😉

Some people do get depressed and heart-broken behind the loss of a love one and take or do dangerous things that lead to an unfortunate death. sad It's surely possible (just my opinion) in P's case.

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Reply #36 posted 01/25/17 3:28am

purplegirl00

Vashtix said:



TOB said:


I wonder if there is any interest?



There is so much more to her story... and she tells it.




I am interested and I want to learn more but I do not know if this is the place for sharing the information



I do feel the same as Vashtix and unsure if this is the right place. You will have to discern that, but I'm interested and thankful for your sharing as well as your willingness to continue.
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Reply #37 posted 01/25/17 6:07am

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Denise and Prince were closer probably than he was with anyone. They came up together and he shared all of his hopes and dreams with her, and of course she was the subject of his prolific film, Purple Rain, something he could or did never recreate.

She was special to him, as what that time in his life. One doesn't forget their artistically formative years, of which she was his focus.

There were many other girls later on, but Denise was ALL WOMAN. And he could never recreate her, either.

That doesn't mean he didn't have times of happiness, he did! But nothing could compare to her, I think, of who she once was.

She welcomed him when he crossed over, I think.

I believe his immaturity at the time and her drug problems later on (the growth they both still needed), stopped the, from staying together. And I think that while Prince accepted that for the most part, he never really could find anyone who measured up to her memory. If he had, I'm sure they would've been married right away. He was no fool later on when it came to what he had learned, and he surely wouldn't have let it get away from him again.
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Reply #38 posted 01/25/17 6:08am

anangellooksdo
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FlyOnTheWall said:

Error

[Edited 1/24/17 22:16pm]



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Reply #39 posted 01/25/17 6:33am

luvgirl

Vashtix said:



luvgirl said:


Strawberrylova123 said:
Do you guys personally believe her death broke prince's HEART?

I absolutely believed the man when he said they loved each other deeply! I don't think they were romantically involved anymore, but I do believe Prince held a certain kind of love for her that transcended time, and I believe his heart was broken when she died. [Edited 1/24/17 20:17pm]

nod



I think they had a connection that was way beyond the romantic it was not earthly, mortal kind of thing but spiritual as you said transcending space, time, what we can see on a totally different level - I think they were twin flames ( they are not always romantic )



I don't judge anyone who scoffs at this idea. It's hard for people to see beyond the scope of this world and the realities that punches you in the face every day. I love a good romance story, but life has also thought me to be a realist. I don't think Prince was pining away for her all his days since they departed. He did move on with his life, but I think that they had a connection here on earth that was ultimately transcending. With such rooted history, their deaths coincided too close together to be mere coincidence. I believe God took both of them at practically the same time for a reason...
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Reply #40 posted 01/25/17 6:49am

anangellooksdo
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luvgirl said:

Vashtix said:



luvgirl said:


Strawberrylova123 said:
Do you guys personally believe her death broke prince's HEART?

I absolutely believed the man when he said they loved each other deeply! I don't think they were romantically involved anymore, but I do believe Prince held a certain kind of love for her that transcended time, and I believe his heart was broken when she died. [Edited 1/24/17 20:17pm]

nod



I think they had a connection that was way beyond the romantic it was not earthly, mortal kind of thing but spiritual as you said transcending space, time, what we can see on a totally different level - I think they were twin flames ( they are not always romantic )



I don't judge anyone who scoffs at this idea. It's hard for people to see beyond the scope of this world and the realities that punches you in the face every day. I love a good romance story, but life has also thought me to be a realist. I don't think Prince was pining away for her all his days since they departed. He did move on with his life, but I think that they had a connection here on earth that was ultimately transcending. With such rooted history, their deaths coincided too close together to be mere coincidence. I believe God took both of them at practically the same time for a reason...


There is definitely a world beyond the one we can see with the naked eye, and it supersedes all. That is the connection they had.
I also don't think Prince sat around pining for Denise, but he was truly grieving when she passed.
Some things one cannot get back on this earth at least, and he accepted that for the most part.
Prince was a positive guy with a lot of energy. He lived every day.
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Reply #41 posted 01/25/17 6:52am

Reciprocity

luvgirl said:

Vashtix said:

nod

I think they had a connection that was way beyond the romantic it was not earthly, mortal kind of thing but spiritual as you said transcending space, time, what we can see on a totally different level - I think they were twin flames ( they are not always romantic )

I don't judge anyone who scoffs at this idea. It's hard for people to see beyond the scope of this world and the realities that punches you in the face every day. I love a good romance story, but life has also thought me to be a realist. I don't think Prince was pining away for her all his days since they departed. He did move on with his life, but I think that they had a connection here on earth that was ultimately transcending. With such rooted history, their deaths coincided too close together to be mere coincidence. I believe God took both of them at practically the same time for a reason...

It is the coincidence of of it that says it is no coincidence. I do not think his mouring for her was incidental. I think their spirits interwoven because they paralleled one another their entire lives to death.

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Reply #42 posted 01/25/17 8:16am

FlyOnTheWall

I think it's true that Prince, at one time, loved Vanity deeply, as he stated at the time of her passing. He was visibly moved when he dedicated "Little Red Corvette" to her that night in Melbourne, Australia. That said, there is absolutely no evidence that Prince "died of a broken heart." According to the medical examiner, he died of an accidental overdose.

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Reply #43 posted 01/25/17 8:49am

tigerlilyluv

FlyOnTheWall said:

I think it's true that Prince, at one time, loved Vanity deeply, as he stated at the time of her passing. He was visibly moved when he dedicated "Little Red Corvette" to her that night in Melbourne, Australia. That said, there is absolutely no evidence that Prince "died of a broken heart." According to the medical examiner, he died of an accidental overdose.

They likely didn't know the reason for his overdose, though. sad I won't forget that his chef said he stopped eating two months before his death (which coincides with Denise's death). Like someone said, there was a reason they both died so closely together. In my mind, I believe this was not just a coincidence. But, again, I'm just putting my opinion, of course. smile

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Reply #44 posted 01/25/17 9:25am

FlyOnTheWall

tigerlilyluv said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I think it's true that Prince, at one time, loved Vanity deeply, as he stated at the time of her passing. He was visibly moved when he dedicated "Little Red Corvette" to her that night in Melbourne, Australia. That said, there is absolutely no evidence that Prince "died of a broken heart." According to the medical examiner, he died of an accidental overdose.

They likely didn't know the reason for his overdose, though. sad I won't forget that his chef said he stopped eating two months before his death (which coincides with Denise's death). Like someone said, there was a reason they both died so closely together. In my mind, I believe this was not just a coincidence. But, again, I'm just putting my opinion, of course. smile

I'm afraid to ask what you mean when you say that "They likely didn't know the reason for his overdose." Also, here's what the chef actually said:

"The last few months he had the flu or a cold, always. There was always something going on. He was off his game and needed to rest. I had to be careful about what I was serving him." Prince was more frequently requesting foods that would help him to feel better, or something easy for his throat, or foods that made him feel like he was being nourished. Read more...

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Reply #45 posted 01/25/17 9:43am

PaisleyPrint

Reciprocity said:

luvgirl said:

Vashtix said: I don't judge anyone who scoffs at this idea. It's hard for people to see beyond the scope of this world and the realities that punches you in the face every day. I love a good romance story, but life has also thought me to be a realist. I don't think Prince was pining away for her all his days since they departed. He did move on with his life, but I think that they had a connection here on earth that was ultimately transcending. With such rooted history, their deaths coincided too close together to be mere coincidence. I believe God took both of them at practically the same time for a reason...

It is the coincidence of of it that says it is no coincidence. I do not think his mouring for her was incidental. I think their spirits interwoven because they paralleled one another their entire lives to death.

So is the reason y'all think they were "soul mates" or that they had this "connection" because of the fact that they died so closely together? Or did y'all ALWAYS believe that. Cause tbh with y'all, having watched P's life/career blossom since 1979, I had never heard anyone (including Carmen Electra, Morris Day ect.) say that they were "soul mates" until they died two months apart. That is the "first" and "only" time I had heard it. Now just cause I hadn't heard it doesn't mean it wasn't said/spoken. It's just that I hadn't heard it.

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Reply #46 posted 01/25/17 9:43am

Vashtix

The Broken Heart Syndrome results in a cause

Debbie Reynolds died of a heart attackn my opinion brought i on by the broken heart.

Whatever Prince died from again in my opinion brought on by the broken heart.

Not hard to get. Humans are not machines. Prince had lost his High School sweetheart Nov. 2015 and Vanity Feb. 2016. His contemporaries were dying.

I am not going to go back and forth over it. I miss Prince . I wish he had not died.

Fussing over it will not bring him back.

He mourned over Denise- he was allowed and yeah I think they were twin flames; at first I thought lovers til the end but now I think they were simply so connected they fed off one another.

It takes a certain mind to grasp this - it is not earthy and it is a unique thing not something to debate in my opinion.

They are both gone within weeks of one another; it is enough. R.I.P. to both of them.

Miss them being somewhere here on earth.

sad

[Edited 1/25/17 10:04am]

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Reply #47 posted 01/25/17 9:47am

Vashtix

anangellooksdown said:

Denise and Prince were closer probably than he was with anyone. They came up together and he shared all of his hopes and dreams with her, and of course she was the subject of his prolific film, Purple Rain, something he could or did never recreate. She was special to him, as what that time in his life. One doesn't forget their artistically formative years, of which she was his focus. There were many other girls later on, but Denise was ALL WOMAN. And he could never recreate her, either. That doesn't mean he didn't have times of happiness, he did! But nothing could compare to her, I think, of who she once was. She welcomed him when he crossed over, I think. I believe his immaturity at the time and her drug problems later on (the growth they both still needed), stopped the, from staying together. And I think that while Prince accepted that for the most part, he never really could find anyone who measured up to her memory. If he had, I'm sure they would've been married right away. He was no fool later on when it came to what he had learned, and he surely wouldn't have let it get away from him again.

I agree and that does not discount his marriages or the other women in his life. I accept that. I am not in for some fantasy romance that did not exist. These 2 were real and raw and I will not try to make it more than it was either just to suit a fantasy or a romance I wish had occurred. That would be disrespectful to his memory and manhood.

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Reply #48 posted 01/25/17 9:58am

NotACleverName

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Vashtix said:



anangellooksdown said:


Denise and Prince were closer probably than he was with anyone. They came up together and he shared all of his hopes and dreams with her, and of course she was the subject of his prolific film, Purple Rain, something he could or did never recreate. She was special to him, as what that time in his life. One doesn't forget their artistically formative years, of which she was his focus. There were many other girls later on, but Denise was ALL WOMAN. And he could never recreate her, either. That doesn't mean he didn't have times of happiness, he did! But nothing could compare to her, I think, of who she once was. She welcomed him when he crossed over, I think. I believe his immaturity at the time and her drug problems later on (the growth they both still needed), stopped the, from staying together. And I think that while Prince accepted that for the most part, he never really could find anyone who measured up to her memory. If he had, I'm sure they would've been married right away. He was no fool later on when it came to what he had learned, and he surely wouldn't have let it get away from him again.

I agree and that does not discount his marriages or the other women in his life. I accept that. I am not in for some fantasy romance that did not exist. These 2 were real and raw and I will not try to make it more than it was either just to suit a fantasy or a romance I wish had occurred. That would be disrespectful to his memory and manhood.



Too late.....
"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
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Reply #49 posted 01/25/17 10:00am

FlyOnTheWall

Vashtix said:

The Broken Heart Syndrome results in a cause

Debbie Reynolds died of a heart attack brought on by the broken heart.

Whatever Prince died from again brought on by the broken heart.

Not hard to get. Humans are not machines. Prince had lost his High School sweetheart Nov. 2015 and Vanity Feb. 2016. His contemporaries were dying.

I am not going to go back and forth over it. I miss Prince . I wish he had not died.

Fussing over it will not bring him back.

He mourned over Denise- he was allowed and yeah I think they were twin flames; at first I thought lovers til the end but now I think they were simply so connected they fed off one another.

It takes a certain mind to grasp this - it is not earthy and it is a unique thing not something to debate in my opinion.

They are both gone within weeks of one another; it is enough. R.I.P. to both of them.

Miss them being somewhere here on earth.

sad

And you know this, how?

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Reply #50 posted 01/25/17 10:03am

Vashtix

FlyOnTheWall said:

Vashtix said:

The Broken Heart Syndrome results in a cause

Debbie Reynolds died of a heart attack brought on by the broken heart.

Whatever Prince died from again brought on by the broken heart.

Not hard to get. Humans are not machines. Prince had lost his High School sweetheart Nov. 2015 and Vanity Feb. 2016. His contemporaries were dying.

I am not going to go back and forth over it. I miss Prince . I wish he had not died.

Fussing over it will not bring him back.

He mourned over Denise- he was allowed and yeah I think they were twin flames; at first I thought lovers til the end but now I think they were simply so connected they fed off one another.

It takes a certain mind to grasp this - it is not earthy and it is a unique thing not something to debate in my opinion.

They are both gone within weeks of one another; it is enough. R.I.P. to both of them.

Miss them being somewhere here on earth.

sad

And you know this, how?

It is my opinion and I am not doing an adolescent debate over it. I also did not say he was in mad love but missing his twin flame. I will edit my post and say "in my opinion."

I am not about to go there with anyone. As I said to high a thing to even try to debate so I won't.

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Reply #51 posted 01/25/17 10:03am

PaisleyPrint

TOB, if you're up for talking about it, I would like to know more about Denise's beginning drug use, such as how/why she started and her attraction to psychics/astrologers. Did she ever say anything about consulting them ect.

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Reply #52 posted 01/25/17 10:17am

NotACleverName

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anangellooksdown said:

Denise and Prince were closer probably than he was with anyone. They came up together and he shared all of his hopes and dreams with her, and of course she was the subject of his prolific film, Purple Rain, something he could or did never recreate.

You've obviously never married and created children with someone! NOTHING in life will ever reach the intimate physical and emotional space that exists in that particular place. Intimacy, at no other level, is when you participate in bringing new life into the world. Been there. Done that.

She was special to him, as what that time in his life. One doesn't forget their artistically formative years, of which she was his focus.

Mayte was the focus of his Emancipation years....very artistically formative years for "The Artist". Read about his soul connection with Mayte here:
content://com.sec.android...2943.mhtml

There were many other girls later on, but Denise was ALL WOMAN. And he could never recreate her, either.

He never tried to!

That doesn't mean he didn't have times of happiness, he did! But nothing could compare to her, I think, of who she once was.

He was incredibly happy with his two wives. And Andy Allo.

She welcomed him when he crossed over, I think.

As I'm sure other important people in his life did....his parents specifically
.

I believe his immaturity at the time and her drug problems later on (the growth they both still needed), stopped the, from staying together. And I think that while Prince accepted that for the most part, he never really could find anyone who measured up to her memory. If he had, I'm sure they would've been married right away. He was no fool later on when it came to what he had learned, and he surely wouldn't have let it get away from him again.
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Reply #53 posted 01/25/17 10:18am

FlyOnTheWall

NotACleverName said:

Vashtix said:

I agree and that does not discount his marriages or the other women in his life. I accept that. I am not in for some fantasy romance that did not exist. These 2 were real and raw and I will not try to make it more than it was either just to suit a fantasy or a romance I wish had occurred. That would be disrespectful to his memory and manhood.

Too late......

nod

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Reply #54 posted 01/25/17 10:28am

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Come on guys lets not argue please its not a big deal, i believe prince was broken hearted over Denise and why shouldn't he...he had a heart, he was human.
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Reply #55 posted 01/25/17 10:53am

luvgirl

Looks like she made a top out of the same material from that dress she wore to give Prince the award. This is one of my favorite pictures of her. Where's that cane Prince gave her though??? pimp2 lol

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Reply #56 posted 01/25/17 11:18am

Purplebflogirl

Idk for sure but I bet Prince always loved her..And they probably kept in touch.Both of his wives resemble her..
Until the end of time
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Reply #57 posted 01/25/17 11:59am

tigerlilyluv

Fly, I'm not trying to start anything negative. I promise on that. I'm just participating in the discussions is all.

About them not knowing why he overdosed... I didn't think that statement to be worthy of critiquing. But I don't mind explaining. It was only a matter of opinion. They (as in the medical examiner and whoever that was medically involved in the autopsy). If they did know, they didn't reveal it. This, unless proven incorrect, gives me room to specualte like many others here are doing here. Nothing wrong with that, I don't think. As long as no one gets hurt.

It's not uncommon to come across someone that will not agree with your opinion or beliefs. I don't do that back and forward thing and I won't start now. It's not in my character. But I did, however, state that it was my opinion. I try to add that in my posts because I don't want to cause any problems between anyone nor with anyone.


My opinion does not make anything I've stated to be proven accurate and it does not define how Prince nor Vanity may/may not have lived their lives while still on this earth. It's not a complicated matter that some here may believe that a broken heart may have been a part of other things that could have contributed to his death--being sick, addiction, depressed, stressed, lack of nutrition, lack of sleep for 2 weeks, talking with or dreaming about dead people or whatever. If he was already sick, finding out someone you've loved deeply had passed would not help matters one bit. He even lost someone else just before Denise's death.


Aren't we all entitled to our own beliefs, though? No one should be constantly questioned about stating their opinion. I'm not saying this is what you do but I see this kind of stuff going on on forums a lot--especially all over this Prince forum. Going back and forward about this will not resolve to anything positive (imo). That sort of stuff, I believe, can be detrimental to one's soul. It's, without a doubt, depressing to me. So I try to avoid this back-and-forward thing--the reason I told someone it was my last time posting about my beliefs on LRC song.


In fact, this is my first time stating anything in regards to Prince and Denise (in regards to his and her death being close together and why I think he died). You will not find any other post here from me in that specific regard. I haven't asked anyone why they believe what they believe. If I have, I don't recall. I can't even keep up with stuff posted here. I don't even think I've ever spoken about "twin-flames" or them being soul mates. Though, yesterday (before the topic disappeared) I did read it in that info TOB shared of Denise's book or whatever it was where she said she didn't know if their relationship was demonically connected or angelically, and something about soul mates. But, I know nothing about Twin Flames or Soul mates. I've only heard of the term "soul mates" and only heard of "Twin Flames" after Prince's death from Prince's fans. I've never tried to understand it and I don't read astrology stuff--being I have no interest in obtaining knowledge about that.


Asked if we believe they were soul mates because they died close together... No, that is not why I believe that their death wasn't "just a coincidence". But I don't think my opinion matters much, anyway. It's no big deal. smile


About the chef... I did "hear" him say this in one of those interviews. I've got so much saved on both my laptops, on an external hard-drive, and on 2 of my cell phones (I really do) regarding Prince and Vanity. I'd be searching all day to check if I saved that interview. My words weren't verbatim but he said something of 1 1/2 to 2 months that P was on liquids only. He also said something about P not being able to keep food down and sore throat. I haven't read anything. We already know that not every article or interview has the exact same information. Even Prince's sister said some conflicting stuff in 2 different interviews.


This forum is more complicated to me than learning anything about Prince's life. That's sad.

FlyOnTheWall said:

tigerlilyluv said:

I'm afraid to ask what you mean when you say that "They likely didn't know the reason for his overdose." Also, here's what the chef actually said:

"The last few months he had the flu or a cold, always. There was always something going on. He was off his game and needed to rest. I had to be careful about what I was serving him." Prince was more frequently requesting foods that would help him to feel better, or something easy for his throat, or foods that made him feel like he was being nourished. Read more...

[Edited 1/25/17 12:08pm]

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Reply #58 posted 01/25/17 12:05pm

tigerlilyluv

She looked just as sexy in this mask as P did with his PRain mask during Computer Blue performance.

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This dog even cute, too!

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Reply #59 posted 01/25/17 12:07pm

tigerlilyluv

Strawberrylova123 said:

Come on guys lets not argue please its not a big deal, i believe prince was broken hearted over Denise and why shouldn't he...he had a heart, he was human.

yeahthat

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