Dez posted this yesterday. Not sure if it's directed at anyone in "particular" but found the bolded statement very interesting ... Tommy B posted a comment to it

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The willingness and ability to separate people from their opinions while valuing and respecting them intrinsically is one of the chief indicators of personal wholeness. Conversely, thin-skinned reactivity and a pervasive pattern of hearing things people aren't saying is a major indicator of dysfunction. Presumption is the lowest and least reliable form of information-those who traffic heavily in it will also have difficulty in developing an adult relationship with reality. When a person cannot distinguish between one's disagreement with their opinion and rejection, that person is showing you who they are-when they feel the need to broadcast their 'case', they advertise their condition...

bondno9 said:

Dez posted this yesterday. Not sure if it's directed at anyone in "particular" but found the bolded statement very interesting ... Tommy B posted a comment to it

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The willingness and ability to separate people from their opinions while valuing and respecting them intrinsically is one of the chief indicators of personal wholeness. Conversely, thin-skinned reactivity and a pervasive pattern of hearing things people aren't saying is a major indicator of dysfunction. Presumption is the lowest and least reliable form of information-those who traffic heavily in it will also have difficulty in developing an adult relationship with reality. When a person cannot distinguish between one's disagreement with their opinion and rejection, that person is showing you who they are-when they feel the need to broadcast their 'case', they advertise their condition...

I saw that when he posted it! It was great to see him speak up!

bondno9 said:

Wise man.

justAmeda said:

strawberrylova123 said:

justAmeda said:

I saw that when he posted it! It was great to see him speak up!

Speak up about what exactly?

IMO I believe he was addressing some of the negativity that certain people have spewed recently

NinaB said:

bondno9 said:

Dez posted this yesterday. Not sure if it's directed at anyone in "particular" but found the bolded statement very interesting ... Tommy B posted a comment to it

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The willingness and ability to separate people from their opinions while valuing and respecting them intrinsically is one of the chief indicators of personal wholeness. Conversely, thin-skinned reactivity and a pervasive pattern of hearing things people aren't saying is a major indicator of dysfunction. Presumption is the lowest and least reliable form of information-those who traffic heavily in it will also have difficulty in developing an adult relationship with reality. When a person cannot distinguish between one's disagreement with their opinion and rejection, that person is showing you who they are-when they feel the need to broadcast their 'case', they advertise their condition...

What was Tommy's comment?

Tommy's comment was "haha! love this. dez, you're awesome"

Whoever and whatever this is directed at it is TRUTH,

They the RevolutionoituloveR are going to have to be sharp and solid together because people have their claws and poison out and ready

All I read is gobbity-gook. It's sad that there is so much drama with the protoges.

funksterr said:

All I read is gobbity-gook. It's sad that there is so much drama with the protoges.

I really don't think there is. I don't know who that is directed at. For all we know it is a Prince fan that attacked Dez. I did read something from someone on a FB Prince group that recently sent a message to Dez and she didn't like his response. So for all I know it could be about that.

Drama is a part of life. And I don't think there is so much drama with the proteges, 1 or 2 people posting negative stuff doesn't mean there is drama with the proteges. After the past weekend with so many of them @ First Avenue and over the years from Sheila E the Family the Time the Revolution supporting each other. I don't think it is

rogifan said:

Man I prefer the people Prince worked with later in his career. Next to no drama with those folks, just really good friends.

So Pretty!

rogifan said:

Man I prefer the people Prince worked with later in his career. Next to no drama with those folks, just really good friends.

we don't know everything, even friendships

funksterr said:

All I read is gobbity-gook. It's sad that there is so much drama with the protoges.

LOL Dez is no protege. He was a musician and in a band before he joined Prince - just to be clear. (Not that you necessarily meant that.)

However, past all that, I think he could be talked about the negativity of one Ms. Jill Jones, and her double-flipped-bird FB post that she cowardly deleted after the fact, calling The Revolution "milli vanilli band". The thread addressing it on the Org has been deleted or hidden, and probably rightly so. Needless to say, it wasn't favorable overall.

OldFriends4Sale said:

rogifan said:

Man I prefer the people Prince worked with later in his career. Next to no drama with those folks, just really good friends.

I love the picture and I love these ladies. Elisa Florillo sings beautifully.

rogifan said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

we don't know everything, even friendships

Sure. But I do think the people he worked with later are good friends. I think it's a beautiful thing.

yes, especially the ladies.
But like someone else said, "Prince wasn't having sex with them" lol which is kinda true.
I would though like to know(not fully) what they felt when Andy Allo came along. How he put her up, even having them back her and she could barely play the guitar live. I love Andy and I think they were pretty professional about it, but to hear some thoughts about this.

Or even Bria Valente

malbena said:

rogifan said:

Man I prefer the people Prince worked with later in his career. Next to no drama with those folks, just really good friends.

I love the picture and I love these ladies. Elisa Florillo sings beautifully.

Beautiful, talented and professional.

OldFriends4Sale said:

malbena said:

rogifan said:

malbena said:

I love the picture and I love these ladies. Elisa Florillo sings beautifully.

Nice memory from Elisa here: http://www.reviewjournal....ger-prince

“I explained it to him when I first joined the band,” she remembers. “I said, you know, before when I was doing this when I was 21, there was no kids involved. Now that I have a 3-year-old, I really don’t know that I can tolerate being away very long.’ He said, ‘Don’t worry. We’re going to do residencies, and you can bring your family. This is a family-oriented thing, and we want to make her feel included. So he actually let me bring my daughter to rehearsals a couple of times. He played ‘Twinkle Twinkle’ on the guitar, and she sang. There’s memories I can’t even … there’s so much, I can’t even … it’s a lot.” Eventually, the demands of the road meant Fiorillo was gone for a month and a half at a time, which started to take a toll on the singer. “That was so tough to Skype my daughter, and I know that he could feel that sadness that I was feeling,” Fiorillo says, explaining how sensitive the superstar could be. “One summer, I remember him calling me on the phone, saying, ‘Elisa, I don’t want you to go this summer, and it’s not because I don’t want you there. I just think you need to be with your daughter. So I stayed home, and I was like, ‘Damn, I need the work.’ He really did care about that, and he didn’t want me to lose that.” But then, in true Prince fashion, when times started getting lean, Fiorillo says, she’d get another call from him to return to the road, almost like he knew, instinctively. “It was almost like as soon as our money … the band was starting to lose a little money because we weren’t working, all of a sudden, Prince calls,” she says. “We got a gig, and we had plane tickets the next day.”

[Edited 9/9/16 1:30am]

Prince was an angel the last years-he evolved in ways that are heartwarming

rogifan said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

yes, especially the ladies.
But like someone else said, "Prince wasn't having sex with them" lol which is kinda true.
I would though like to know(not fully) what they felt when Andy Allo came along. How he put her up, even having them back her and she could barely play the guitar live. I love Andy and I think they were pretty professional about it, but to hear some thoughts about this.

Or even Bria Valente

Good question. My guess is we'll never know because these women are too professional for that.

I hope it stays that way.
We never heard any issues with any previous proteges until Jill Jones recent FB rant

I suspect that had more to do with unresolved issues with Prince that actually band members

I don't even count Anna Fantastic

Vashtix said:

I love the picture though.

rogifan said:

Man I prefer the people Prince worked with later in his career. Next to no drama with those folks, just really good friends.

justAmeda said:

strawberrylova123 said:

justAmeda said: Speak up about what exactly?

IMO I believe he was addressing some of the negativity that certain people have spewed recently

But what and who was that statement to?

We don't know what that was really about.

OldFriends4Sale said:

rogifan said:

Man I prefer the people Prince worked with later in his career. Next to no drama with those folks, just really good friends.

we don't know everything, even friendships

Exactly! These were professionals that came in a did their job. Seem like he had a nice mentor relationship with Shelby but even with that, we don't know everything.

GhostChick said:

justAmeda said:

IMO I believe he was addressing some of the negativity that certain people have spewed recently

But what and who was that statement to?

We don't know what that was really about.

Right

It could just be a thought, which is on point, about life.
There doesn't need to actually be drama for him to post that...

reading it again it sound like what we have in rule #1 Discuss Ideals Not Persons

GhostChick said: