LBrent said:

justAmeda said:

NOH said:

The vultures circling your still warm body. The greed. The lies. The false claims. Shame on them.

I am certain you are watching, having the last laugh because you predicted this. "The enemy sends people into our lives just as God does. Be wise enough to know who to let in and who to let go." "The devil will walk into a room with tears and will try to make you feel sorry for him." You said these exact words to me in 2014. "Jubilant Judas fakes tears."

Wish I knew what is meant by this! Even Andre Crutchfield referenced #ThievesInTheTemple! Why do us fans have to be left in the dark about this stuff? It's like ya know folks wouldn't have conspiracies and crap if someone/someones would just come forward and speak the truth!

^^ This. It's a beautiful post, albeit a few digs on others who have taken up the microphones and used his passing to their advantage (is she throwing digs at Sheila?). She's letting it be known she is working with the family on plans for PP and memorials. All these ex lovers coming into the fray will be interesting

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LBrent said:

You can be "seeing" someone without having sex with them if you are like-minded in that regard. Not everyone is having sex in every mixed gender relationship.

True True! Prince sang many a toon, and he made each feel special as if it was he and only them. You got one going for grief therapy, the other following his spirit around the country hanging with old friends and band members leaving behind her children and husband, you got another feeling like a "widow" another this another that, it's no wonder he never took up with one from his past. They probably bored him. Prince ego was as big as the sky. What man approaching 60 wouldn't want to have ALL the woman from his past stroking that ego? And they all STILL fell for it! [Edited 9/2/16 0:13am]

You know, I'm starting to feel sorry for his sister Tyka. Geez. I can barely deal with my brother's ex-wife at the occasional kid graduation party. I can't imagine every ex-wife and girlfriend coming out of the woodwork claiming the prime spot as The Woman In His Life if he passed. I can't imagine what it must be like for Tyka to deal not only with P's death, but also the vast estate, crazy faux relatives, and just about every woman who ever had a relationship with him. I'd want to crawl into a hole right about now...

And I'm sure I'd be getting snippy with them right about now.

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rogifan said:

lwr001 said:

laurarichardson said:

teach49 said:

LBrent said:

teach49 said:

You know, I'm starting to feel sorry for his sister Tyka. Geez. I can barely deal with my brother's ex-wife at the occasional kid graduation party. I can't imagine every ex-wife and girlfriend coming out of the woodwork claiming the prime spot as The Woman In His Life if he passed. I can't imagine what it must be like for Tyka to deal not only with P's death, but also the vast estate, crazy faux relatives, and just about every woman who ever had a relationship with him. I'd want to crawl into a hole right about now...

And I'm sure I'd be getting snippy with them right about now.

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I feelya, but all she has to do is be polite, yet assertive from moment 1 with all o'dem. "Everyone, I understand that we are all in varying degrees of grief, but this is how P wanted things done and this is the protocol we'll be following to accomplish his plan and bring his wishes to fruition." Translation: Shut up! Damn!

If I was Tyka I wouldn't want the responsibility of corralling all these various female personalities, Prince didn't so why should she, let them do as they wish and keep my mind on business, because truth be told and the end of the day who are the ones actually sitting on the throne.

morningsong said:

LBrent said:

teach49 said: I feelya, but all she has to do is be polite, yet assertive from moment 1 with all o'dem. "Everyone, I understand that we are all in varying degrees of grief, but this is how P wanted things done and this is the protocol we'll be following to accomplish his plan and bring his wishes to fruition." Translation: Shut up! Damn!

If I was Tyka I wouldn't want the responsibility of corralling all these various female personalities, Prince didn't so why should she, let them do as they wish and keep my mind on business, because truth be told and the end of the day who are the ones actually sitting on the throne.

Yeah, but they would still get on my nerves I think. I know they're grieving, but still.

I actually thought Apollonia's note was sweet, although the widow part of it was a bit much for me. That and it felt too personal for fans to see...

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Im going to give Apples a pass mainly being because PR is my fav movie of all time and I understand that she took a role that was meant for Vanity and she did well with the role. So Im gonna let her slide.

Did Prince actually sit on the beach under an umbrella watching Apples surf while getting sand in his hair? Or is that something she is imagining because I just don't see Prince as a beachy type. Just cannot picture him on the beach in heels.

nursev said:

Im going to give Apples a pass mainly being because PR is my fav movie of all time and I understand that she took a role that was meant for Vanity and she did well with the role. So Im gonna let her slide.

All this "meant for Vanity" stuff is silly, really. If Vanity wanted that part, she could have had it. even remember one report saying Vanity was "lazy", and didn't want to work as hard as everyone else did.
Ultimately, she chose not to inhabit the role, which means it was up for anyone at that point. Whether it was Susan Lucci or Patricia Kotero who got the role, it was her role, not Denise's. At leas Apple's had acting skills under her belt. Denise, as great of a person as she was, had a cocaine vile under hers.

Been checking updates of the REV concert and Apples looks like she's lost some weight

Apples 6 was on Countdown

TrivialPursuit said:

nursev said:

Im going to give Apples a pass mainly being because PR is my fav movie of all time and I understand that she took a role that was meant for Vanity and she did well with the role. So Im gonna let her slide.

All this "meant for Vanity" stuff is silly, really. If Vanity wanted that part, she could have had it. even remember one report saying Vanity was "lazy", and didn't want to work as hard as everyone else did.
Ultimately, she chose not to inhabit the role, which means it was up for anyone at that point. Whether it was Susan Lucci or Patricia Kotero who got the role, it was her role, not Denise's. At leas Apple's had acting skills under her belt. Denise, as great of a person as she was, had a cocaine vile under hers.

The role was slated for Denise. She helped write parts of the Purple Rain story that was based on her life. Also, Denise had an acting and modeling career prior to meeting Prince. She left PR role mainly because she received a more lucrative movie/recording deal. I am sure it was a very difficult decision for Denise to make. Apples was chosen to fill Denise's role and the rest is history. This is not to take anything away from Apples.

I think the "cocaine vial under hers" comment is a pretty insensitive and unnecessary comment to make particularily since Denise is no longer here to defend herself.

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love4real said:

The role was slated for Denise. She helped write parts of the Purple Rain story that was based on her life. Also, Denise did had a acting and modeling career prior to meeting Prince. She left PR role mainly because she received a more lucrative movie/recording deal. I am sure it was a very difficult decision for Denise to make. Apples was chosen to fill Denise's role and the rest is history. This is not to take anything away from Apples.

I think the "cocaine vile under hers" comment is a pretty insensitive and unnecssary comment to make particularily since Denise is no longer here to defend herself.

She doesn't need to defend it, nor is it insensitive. She's plainly stated how she was high AF back then, and was for a long, long time. It's unfortunate. She told her story plenty.

Drugs wreck a body and a soul. They also make you make bad decisions. Slated for her or not, she walked away from it. It wasn't hers anymore, is my point. Believe me, I'd certainly have liked to see her in the role! It probably would have been more natural and organic to the whole crew, story, filming, etc.

I love this photo

Goddess4Real said:

I love this photo

How adorable!!

Goddess4Real said:

TrivialPursuit said:

nursev said:

Im going to give Apples a pass mainly being because PR is my fav movie of all time and I understand that she took a role that was meant for Vanity and she did well with the role. So Im gonna let her slide.

All this "meant for Vanity" stuff is silly, really. If Vanity wanted that part, she could have had it. even remember one report saying Vanity was "lazy", and didn't want to work as hard as everyone else did.
Ultimately, she chose not to inhabit the role, which means it was up for anyone at that point. Whether it was Susan Lucci or Patricia Kotero who got the role, it was her role, not Denise's. At leas Apple's had acting skills under her belt. Denise, as great of a person as she was, had a cocaine vile under hers.

Stop with the Vanity bashing. If she had a cocaine vile under her, then so did Prince. His brother confirmed that Prince used cocaine back in the day. Do you honestly think she was using it without Prince knowing about it or just with Morris Day? They were living together and extremely close. Whatever Vanity was, Prince was also. If you want to call her a drug addict and reference it every time she is mentioned, then you need to do the same thing with Prince. Everybody makes mistakes and bad choices in life, the difference with her and Prince is that they were able to make tremendous changes and move past those bad choices. Vanity went public with her drug use in the hopes of helping someone else who was battling a similar problem. One of those people was Prince himself. So leave her alone because her public confessions helped a lot of people.

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30yearfan said:

Stop with the Vanity bashing.

I'm gonna stop you right there. No one is bashing Vanity. Far from it.

Christ, one little drug reference, and y'all lose your minds. If she admitted to using something, then why is it sudden taboo to mention it? She's talked about it endlessly on programs before her death. It was part of her testimony.

Let me take everyone back to my point. It was not about her drug use - it's that she walked away from the role, and that left it wide open for anyone else to take. That's the point. So to say "that was her role"...yeah well, not when she decided to do other things instead. Hey, it happens. A lot of people have walked away from roles that could have been good for them otherwise. Denise isn't the first or last, but it's who we're discussing here today.

It is interesting though how you threw Prince under the bus, just to make an argument for Vanity. "Well if she was doing it, so was Prince! So-in-so said so!" Pfft, come on. Let's be adults here, and have a healthy debate on things.

TrivialPursuit said:

30yearfan said:

Stop with the Vanity bashing.

I'm gonna stop you right there. No one is bashing Vanity. Far from it.

Christ, one little drug reference, and y'all lose your minds. If she admitted to using something, then why is it sudden taboo to mention it? She's talked about it endlessly on programs before her death. It was part of her testimony.

Let me take everyone back to my point. It was not about her drug use - it's that she walked away from the role, and that left it wide open for anyone else to take. That's the point. So to say "that was her role"...yeah well, not when she decided to do other things instead. Hey, it happens. A lot of people have walked away from roles that could have been good for them otherwise. Denise isn't the first or last, but it's who we're discussing here today.

It is interesting though how you threw Prince under the bus, just to make an argument for Vanity. "Well if she was doing it, so was Prince! So-in-so said so!" Pfft, come on. Let's be adults here, and have a healthy debate on things.

There are many, many movie roles written for one actor that ended up going to someone else for whatever reason. I think people have a hard time separating fact from fiction with PR, but it's really not that unusual. (And everyone thinks the chemistry would have been better with P and Vanity, too, but often real couples have the worst on-screen chemistry.) At the end of the day, it's Apples role.

teach49 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I'm gonna stop you right there. No one is bashing Vanity. Far from it.

Christ, one little drug reference, and y'all lose your minds. If she admitted to using something, then why is it sudden taboo to mention it? She's talked about it endlessly on programs before her death. It was part of her testimony.

Let me take everyone back to my point. It was not about her drug use - it's that she walked away from the role, and that left it wide open for anyone else to take. That's the point. So to say "that was her role"...yeah well, not when she decided to do other things instead. Hey, it happens. A lot of people have walked away from roles that could have been good for them otherwise. Denise isn't the first or last, but it's who we're discussing here today.

It is interesting though how you threw Prince under the bus, just to make an argument for Vanity. "Well if she was doing it, so was Prince! So-in-so said so!" Pfft, come on. Let's be adults here, and have a healthy debate on things.

There are many, many movie roles written for one actor that ended up going to someone else for whatever reason. I think people have a hard time separating fact from fiction with PR, but it's really not that unusual. (And everyone thinks the chemistry would have been better with P and Vanity, too, but often real couples have the worst on-screen chemistry.) At the end of the day, it's Apples role.

I don't suppose any still shots of Vanity in the movie role exist, much less any film footage...

purplethunder3121 said:

teach49 said:

There are many, many movie roles written for one actor that ended up going to someone else for whatever reason. I think people have a hard time separating fact from fiction with PR, but it's really not that unusual. (And everyone thinks the chemistry would have been better with P and Vanity, too, but often real couples have the worst on-screen chemistry.) At the end of the day, it's Apples role.

I don't suppose any still shots of Vanity in the movie role exist, much less any film footage...

Oh, I never thought of that! Did they actually start filming? At the recent Academy talk about PR with Albert Magnoli, Bob Cavallo, Apollonia, et al., Magnoli mentioned they were 4 weeks away from filming and had no female lead, and held auditions throughout the day, then he'd write and work on the script from 11pm-7am at night. So, I wonder if there's anything other than possible acting class or dance class footage, or something in that vein.

30yearfan said:

laurarichardson said:

CROWNS1 said:

Did Prince actually sit on the beach under an umbrella watching Apples surf while getting sand in his hair? Or is that something she is imagining because I just don't see Prince as a beachy type. Just cannot picture him on the beach in heels.

I've been wondering the same thing.