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Reply #90 posted 08/29/16 2:40pm

Krystalkisses

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GhostChick said:

I'm not trying to be funny but how are people drawing the conclusion that Prince and Apples had a relationship or sexual relationship from her post? Because she said they "kissed"?

I don't think she meant they kissed in the mouth, she probably just meant they kissed on the cheek.

That is what I was thinking too. I remember her saying he was never he boyfriend. I don't understand why he wouldn't want to be though. wink

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Reply #91 posted 08/29/16 2:51pm

Krystalkisses

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flyscdiva said:

Loved her posted and was delighted to know after all of these years they still were in touch. After 30+ years! Who knew! The more casual friendly relationships seemed to stand the test of time with him.Just my take....

I know that seems to be how it was. It seemed like Apollonia and Prince had a special friendship and that is really cool. It would have been cute if they became a couple in their older years they always looked like such a sexy couple (and she is his age)...lol..ok long time fan fantasy here lol but it would have been adorable..heart

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Reply #92 posted 08/29/16 2:55pm

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thedance said:

right, I always had a soft spot in my heart for Apollonia. love



[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/Prince/PrinceApollonia.jpg[/img:$uid]

More Prince and Apollonia pictures please!!! biggrin heart heart heart

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Reply #93 posted 08/29/16 3:03pm

jayseajay

GhostChick said:

laurarichardson said:

jayseajay said: --- You need to get out more. P was a pimp not in the respect that he was being abusive but in the way women swooned over him and all the swag. Sad that this had to be explained to you.

I think it's the usage of the word. Everybody doesn't speak the same slang.

I knew exactly what you meant by "pimp hand was strong".

Okay, so let's take another example. I don't know about in the states, but in the UK for a good long while it was usual for certain groups of people to describe stuff they think is shit as 'gay.' Now, weirdly, gay people don't like this, because the word gay also means, y'know gay people, and using gay as a synonym for shit is obviously pretty upsetting to them. When ppl mention this might be offensive, others might go, 'no no no, that's not what we meant, we just meant shit' but the fact is you're still using a word for shit that means something else as well. It's not that I don't understand what is meant, it's that you're using a word that means 'man who violent and exploitative' or 'man who is good at controlling his hos' as a synonym for 'man who is sexy as shit/extremely seductive' and y'know, that pretty much entirely fails to capture what is so sexy and special about Prince. And in the context of Apple's lovely heartfelt post, it's also pretty disrespectful to immediately reach for a word which positions her as just another of Prince's hos. Some people objected to that, and there is a reason why we objected. It's not that we don't understand, it's that we understand and don't like it.

Not like I love my guitar....
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Reply #94 posted 08/29/16 3:05pm

endiadj

Krystalkisses said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

non sexually ROMANTIC

When the real Prince books start coming out I hope she is one who has words in it

Ok I found my new picture as the screensaver on my laptop... biggrin

Isn't it beautiful?! Should there be a shadow under him though? confused

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Reply #95 posted 08/29/16 3:10pm

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What does this bolded statement mean:

"The devil will walk into a room with tears and will try to make you feel sorry for him" You said these exact words to me in 2014. You warned me. "Jubilant Judas fakes tears."

A "happy" backstabber fakes tears and self-pity?

I don't get it. Like a lot of what Prince said, it seems like it was a contradiction.

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Reply #96 posted 08/29/16 3:23pm

Krystalkisses

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anangellooksdown said:

What does this bolded statement mean:

"The devil will walk into a room with tears and will try to make you feel sorry for him" You said these exact words to me in 2014. You warned me. "Jubilant Judas fakes tears."

A "happy" backstabber fakes tears and self-pity?

I don't get it. Like a lot of what Prince said, it seems like it was a contradiction.

perhaps it means the person's outside appearance does not match their authentic feelings? Like they are pretending to be vulnrable and emotional in order for you to "connect" emotionally with them, but they have ulterior motives.

Prince sounded like a very wise man and he for sure wasn't stupid. nod I can only imagine the fake people who entered his life....I think I remember Van Jones saying he knew who his fake friends were.

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Reply #97 posted 08/29/16 3:24pm

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endiadj said:

Krystalkisses said:

Ok I found my new picture as the screensaver on my laptop... biggrin

Isn't it beautiful?! Should there be a shadow under him though? confused

I want this drawing blown up and framed for my office. I love this on so many levels!!! heart

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Reply #98 posted 08/29/16 3:41pm

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Krystalkisses said:



anangellooksdown said:


What does this bolded statement mean:



"The devil will walk into a room with tears and will try to make you feel sorry for him" You said these exact words to me in 2014. You warned me. "Jubilant Judas fakes tears."



A "happy" backstabber fakes tears and self-pity?


I don't get it. Like a lot of what Prince said, it seems like it was a contradiction.





perhaps it means the person's outside appearance does not match their authentic feelings? Like they are pretending to be vulnrable and emotional in order for you to "connect" emotionally with them, but they have ulterior motives.





Prince sounded like a very wise man and he for sure wasn't stupid. nod I can only imagine the fake people who entered his life....I think I remember Van Jones saying he knew who his fake friends were.



Thanks KK
Yes, I get the manipulative part, but "jubilant judas"?
I was thinking more about it and it might mean that judas is happy when you buy his self-pity.
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Reply #99 posted 08/29/16 3:51pm

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anangellooksdown said:

Krystalkisses said:

perhaps it means the person's outside appearance does not match their authentic feelings? Like they are pretending to be vulnrable and emotional in order for you to "connect" emotionally with them, but they have ulterior motives.

Prince sounded like a very wise man and he for sure wasn't stupid. nod I can only imagine the fake people who entered his life....I think I remember Van Jones saying he knew who his fake friends were.

Thanks KK Yes, I get the manipulative part, but "jubilant judas"? I was thinking more about it and it might mean that judas is happy when you buy his self-pity.

Someone with no conscience, only too happy to betray him.

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Reply #100 posted 08/29/16 3:58pm

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jjam said:

I'm beginning to feel like I'm the only person who Prince didn't shag.


I'd always heard they didn't shag. She was married until 1985 to her first husband, so she'd have been a cheater if she did let him get his noodle warmed up. Their onscreen kiss was their first kiss (I'd heard). All that aside, I found it interesting that they stayed friends over the years, especially since Prince cut off other people that had a more profound role in his life & career.

Side note: She was married to her second husband when she was on MTV's Cribs, and lived next door to one Ms. Tara Leigh Patrick.

PS He never shagged me either. Then again, I found him handsome, but never sexually appealing. lol

I love her post, btw. One of the best ones yet.

[Edited 8/29/16 16:00pm]

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #101 posted 08/29/16 4:46pm

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touched by Apples words of love biggrin

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #102 posted 08/29/16 4:51pm

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zenarose said:



anangellooksdown said:


Krystalkisses said:



perhaps it means the person's outside appearance does not match their authentic feelings? Like they are pretending to be vulnrable and emotional in order for you to "connect" emotionally with them, but they have ulterior motives.





Prince sounded like a very wise man and he for sure wasn't stupid. nod I can only imagine the fake people who entered his life....I think I remember Van Jones saying he knew who his fake friends were.



Thanks KK Yes, I get the manipulative part, but "jubilant judas"? I was thinking more about it and it might mean that judas is happy when you buy his self-pity.

Someone with no conscience, only too happy to betray him.



Ah yes. As in, happily backstabbing.
Man, I'm glad I don't understand that.
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Reply #103 posted 08/29/16 4:57pm

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Krystalkisses said:

anangellooksdown said:

What does this bolded statement mean:

"The devil will walk into a room with tears and will try to make you feel sorry for him" You said these exact words to me in 2014. You warned me. "Jubilant Judas fakes tears."

A "happy" backstabber fakes tears and self-pity?

I don't get it. Like a lot of what Prince said, it seems like it was a contradiction.

perhaps it means the person's outside appearance does not match their authentic feelings? Like they are pretending to be vulnrable and emotional in order for you to "connect" emotionally with them, but they have ulterior motives.

Prince sounded like a very wise man and he for sure wasn't stupid. nod I can only imagine the fake people who entered his life....I think I remember Van Jones saying he knew who his fake friends were.

In the P&R forum, there was discussion of conspiracy / illuminati theory people and a few people said Van Jones was into conspiracy theories and such...

I think he is one that probably thinks Prince was murdered

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Reply #104 posted 08/29/16 5:07pm

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This was devastating, in a good way. Wonderful to see how much he was loved and appreciated by someone who knew him for so long. Such a positive post, which surely spoke to the spirit of how she felt about him. kotc heart
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Reply #105 posted 08/29/16 5:17pm

wavesofbliss

Lovely lovely lovely. Heartfelt and respectful. Im still weeping over " i know u wanted to live."
Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND
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Reply #106 posted 08/29/16 7:06pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

bondno9 said:

She said the art was by Stephen Goss

Thank U

Sure. She posted the pic on her pesonal page first. Still got me in my feelings cry

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Reply #107 posted 08/29/16 7:08pm

saviour7

Beautiful tragic and authentic.The most heartfelt words of love and loss from a beautiful soul to another beautiful soul. Broke my heart filled with love.God bless you💜🌻Your heart spoke to many. The best of all xx
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Reply #108 posted 08/29/16 7:19pm

GhostChick

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Loved her posted and was delighted to know after all of these years they still were in touch. After 30+ years! Who knew! lol I do find it puzzling that he was in contact with Apples,there are rumors of somewhat recent love letters from P found by Denise's(Vanity) family after she passed.He talked and had a great friendship with Tamron Hall yet seem to avoid Mayte and Manuela like the plague if those rumors are true. It's like if you married him and was closest to him he axed you.The more casual friendly relationships seemed to stand the test of time with him.Just my take....

I don't know if Prince was in contact with all these people over the years.

I think he started reconnecting with a lot of people around after 2012.

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Reply #109 posted 08/29/16 7:20pm

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funksterr said:

Apollonia immediately called that first Od for what it was in the classiest way possible ("Prince you need to take care of yourself") and immediately earned my respect. Even better now to hear how she was trying to get to him to make sure he was ok. It's disturbing though that he curved her... For the moment I put that in the 'no way in hell I'm actually going to rehab' box.

I think she got "curved" because he didn't want her to see him like that [in pain] PLUS he knew she didn't play and would have scooped his lil tail up and placed him into a car and driven to the nearest hospital. No sitting around waiting for some doctor to fly in. She posted a statement on her FB page (April 15th) about how she had talked to him and said she would hop on a plane and make sure he was resting and that [she] knew he did not want to see that side of her again. So yeah, he knew what would happen if she showed up!

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Reply #110 posted 08/29/16 7:23pm

GhostChick

jayseajay said:

GhostChick said:

I think it's the usage of the word. Everybody doesn't speak the same slang.

I knew exactly what you meant by "pimp hand was strong".

Okay, so let's take another example. I don't know about in the states, but in the UK for a good long while it was usual for certain groups of people to describe stuff they think is shit as 'gay.' Now, weirdly, gay people don't like this, because the word gay also means, y'know gay people, and using gay as a synonym for shit is obviously pretty upsetting to them. When ppl mention this might be offensive, others might go, 'no no no, that's not what we meant, we just meant shit' but the fact is you're still using a word for shit that means something else as well. It's not that I don't understand what is meant, it's that you're using a word that means 'man who violent and exploitative' or 'man who is good at controlling his hos' as a synonym for 'man who is sexy as shit/extremely seductive' and y'know, that pretty much entirely fails to capture what is so sexy and special about Prince. And in the context of Apple's lovely heartfelt post, it's also pretty disrespectful to immediately reach for a word which positions her as just another of Prince's hos. Some people objected to that, and there is a reason why we objected. It's not that we don't understand, it's that we understand and don't like it.



See this is why I don't like how these qoutes are set up, becauase I don't know I am really responding to.

Perhaps, I didn't quite know what "pimp hand was strong" means to either of you.

So I will say this, "where I'm", I know exactly what we mean by "pimp hand was strong". And I will just leave it at that.


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Reply #111 posted 08/29/16 7:28pm

GhostChick

To be honest, we all have "friend" like that in our lives. Haters, fakers, backstabbers. We all got these various names for them but they are right in our circles.

Way too many people put these celebs on some higher plane. Prince was just like us in the sense of he could spot fake people in his life. Some he probably let them do their thing and some he probably didn't mess with any more.

That wasn't no "special power". Most of us can do it IF we paid attention and really looked at who is our friends and who isn't. Most of us don't until we are betrayed by them.

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Reply #112 posted 08/29/16 9:39pm

RachB65

laurarichardson said:

jayseajay said:



laurarichardson said:


strawberrylova123 said:
CO.Sign..i was watching this documentary last night called the hookers and the pimps on that doc were demons to the core. Why would fans want to use that derogatory term regarding prince.

-- I explained why it has nothing to do with abuse. The pimp is now an adjective. Pimp my ride, Pimp hand strong, and Pimp stick. I could go on and on. We know P was not abusing these women. All were adults having fun. You guys are taking it somewhere else.

No, you're taking it somewhere else. Pimp has a meaning, and that meaning is exploiting and being abusive to women. The fact that we live in a fucked up culture that has taken that word and decided it's cool to wallpaper it everywhere isn't something we all think is trivial (there is a ton of harmful shit this culture had decided to wallpaper everywhere). What those of us objecting are saying is that we still hear the violence in the word, and so we don't like it being applied to Prince and his relationships to women, and I for one suspect Prince wouldn't much like it either.


-- No you are taking it somewhere else. You know Prince did not have women on the street so common sense should tell you the word "Pimp" is not being used in that manner. The word has taken on a different meaning over the years and because you do not like it really will not change anything.
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It just sounds ugly, ignorant and disrespectful because the word Pimp has longstanding connotations that even a new n hip entry into the urban dictionary cant erase for most of the population/generation of P fans..
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Reply #113 posted 08/29/16 9:40pm

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RachB65 said:

laurarichardson said:
-- No you are taking it somewhere else. You know Prince did not have women on the street so common sense should tell you the word "Pimp" is not being used in that manner. The word has taken on a different meaning over the years and because you do not like it really will not change anything. [Edited 8/29/16 13:23pm]
It just sounds ugly, ignorant and disrespectful because the word Pimp has longstanding connotations that even a new n hip entry into the urban dictionary cant erase for most of the population/generation of P fans..

Pimp has always been a man who expoited women sexually for profit.
If there is a Pimp there is a hooker

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Reply #114 posted 08/29/16 11:26pm

rogifan

I wonder what plans Prince shared with her that took her breath away? Possibly about turning PP into a museum and opening it up to the public.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #115 posted 08/29/16 11:50pm

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beautifulone7 said:

Beyond all my crazy fan girl fantasies, this really confirms how wonderful it would have been to call Prince a true friend.

I can totally relate to that comment. Prince was a cool assed dude. fro

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Reply #116 posted 08/30/16 12:20am

LuxLove

So much truth in Apples post but what we all must remember:

Your brother Omarr and sister Tyka and siblings are doing their best under the most difficult of circumstances.

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Reply #117 posted 08/30/16 12:27am

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Apollonia immediately called that first Od for what it was in the classiest way possible ("Prince you need to take care of yourself") and immediately earned my respect. Even better now to hear how she was trying to get to him to make sure he was ok. It's disturbing though that he curved her... For the moment I put that in the 'no way in hell I'm actually going to rehab' box.

I don't think he curved her, I think it was the people around him doing that.

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Reply #118 posted 08/30/16 12:33am

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zenarose said:

anangellooksdown said:

Krystalkisses said: Thanks KK Yes, I get the manipulative part, but "jubilant judas"? I was thinking more about it and it might mean that judas is happy when you buy his self-pity.

Someone with no conscience, only too happy to betray him.

Wow. Makes sense. nod

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Reply #119 posted 08/30/16 1:15am

jjam

rogifan said:

jjam said:

I'm beginning to feel like I'm the only person who Prince didn't shag.

lwr001 said:

I'll say again Prince's pimp hand was strooongggggg

Amazing this is all some got out of her beautiful post. Good lord.

Maybe acquire a sense of humour.

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