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Thread started 04/09/15 4:05pm

JoshuaWho

Mazarati vs DaKrash

Lets say you could go back in time to the primes of these two bands but could only see one play. Which one would you take?

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Reply #1 posted 04/10/15 7:35am

BlackSweat86

Mazarati. Never got much into DaKrash. Didn't they do some work with Jesse Johnson, tho?

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Reply #2 posted 04/10/15 2:02pm

sexton

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I have both their debut albums and daKrash is nice hard funk for sure, but the rock element that Mazarati had on their first album is missing from daKrash so for that reason I choose Mazarati.

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Reply #3 posted 04/10/15 5:10pm

JoshuaWho

BlackSweat86 said:

Mazarati. Never got much into DaKrash. Didn't they do some work with Jesse Johnson, tho?

They were a Jesse Johnson production - sort of his Mazarati. Like most of his 80s prductions, they sounded way too much like him. He even played on some of their songs.

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Reply #4 posted 04/11/15 1:17am

December1984

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I actually saw DaKrash play live in 1988. They opened for Jesse on his "Every Shade of Love" tour. They were a lot more "rock" in concert than they were on the album.

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Reply #5 posted 04/11/15 3:54pm

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December1984 said:

I actually saw DaKrash play live in 1988. They opened for Jesse on his "Every Shade of Love" tour. They were a lot more "rock" in concert than they were on the album.

That is what I would have expected. Black rock/funk groups like that always rock more live because they make the records accessible to urban (back in those days the term was "blakc") radio. Dez Dickerson didnt do this and subsequently was ignored. If he has more Modernaire sounding material, he would have easily been picked up by a major label and gotten off at least one album - hell, during the purple heydey, I bet Big Chick could have gotten a 1 record deal. Everyone wanted a real piece of the purple pie so Jesse , Morris, Vanity, Andre, and even Apollonia were all able to strike while the iron was hot.

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Reply #6 posted 04/13/15 8:42pm

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sexton said:

I have both their debut albums and daKrash is nice hard funk for sure, but the rock element that Mazarati had on their first album is missing from daKrash so for that reason I choose Mazarati.

Damn the OP must have been in my head while I was taking a walk in the park last week

thinking starting this thread while listening to music by both bands on my MP3 player.

I share the same sentiment with you. I think DaKrash had the rock element too but Mazarati

just bought it a little harder and better. I would take Mazarati too. I just dig the whole

Mazarati debut album. I would say DaKrash Uptown is just as tight as the 2 Mazarati ballads

on the album. Uptown is actually my favorite song on DaKrash album.

Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #7 posted 04/15/15 6:45am

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JoshuaWho said:

Lets say you could go back in time to the primes of these two bands but could only see one play. Which one would you take?

I like Maz better in the studio but as I have no idea how either bands sounded live, I wouldn't know.

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Reply #8 posted 04/15/15 9:23am

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databank said:

JoshuaWho said:

Lets say you could go back in time to the primes of these two bands but could only see one play. Which one would you take?

I like Maz better in the studio but as I have no idea how either bands sounded live, I wouldn't know.

Mazarat was really hot live

U never saw the youtube 1986 aftershow piece of Sheila E/Eddie M with Mazarati?

they did Head, America in that clip
I saw them on the MTV Under the Cherry Moon premiere party, they are pretty good live

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I Guess It's All Over & Champagne Saturdays are cool Bsides
Suzy, She's Just That Kind of Lady are my favs from the album

[Edited 4/15/15 9:28am]

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Reply #9 posted 04/16/15 2:45pm

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I love the daKRASH record, and the Kool Skool record (essentially the second daKRASH album except with a new singer and a more new jack swing sound).

But the Mazarati album smokes them both. So definitely Maz.

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Reply #10 posted 04/18/15 11:05am

leonche64

Mazarati had the better songs, but Da Krash had the better show. If you can find their appearance on Soul Train, it iw worth a look.

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Reply #11 posted 04/19/15 11:01am

jungleluv

Did Mazarati have any hits off their album? Was the album released on CD? I would really like a copy

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jungleluv said:

Did Mazarati have any hits off their album? Was the album released on CD? I would really like a copy

Depends on how you define hit, "100MPH" was a minor hit I suppose. The album was released on CD but only on Japan, and generally sells for hundreds upon hundreds of dollars.

I tell you something, when Prince played various Paisley Park Records videos on the big video screens before his headline performance at Hop Farm Festival in 2011, and Mazarati came on, thousands of English people in a field in Kent didn't know what hit 'em! Their album still slams so hard smile

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OldFriends4Sale said:

databank said:

I like Maz better in the studio but as I have no idea how either bands sounded live, I wouldn't know.

U never saw the youtube 1986 aftershow piece of Sheila E/Eddie M with Mazarati?

Nope sad

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Reply #14 posted 04/22/15 1:09pm

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Militant said:

jungleluv said:

Did Mazarati have any hits off their album? Was the album released on CD? I would really like a copy

Depends on how you define hit, "100MPH" was a minor hit I suppose. The album was released on CD but only on Japan, and generally sells for hundreds upon hundreds of dollars.

I tell you something, when Prince played various Paisley Park Records videos on the big video screens before his headline performance at Hop Farm Festival in 2011, and Mazarati came on, thousands of English people in a field in Kent didn't know what hit 'em! Their album still slams so hard smile

It DOES biggrin

I was wondering why the second album hadn't been released by WB/PP, then it hit me: since it was Mark's pet project, could it be that Mark took 'em with him at Motown? This could explain the little interest Motown put in this album (released only in Kannada cool ), like Mark forced the band on the label and they just took it to get him? Pure speculation here, but it'd make sense. What do u think?

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databank said:

Militant said:

Depends on how you define hit, "100MPH" was a minor hit I suppose. The album was released on CD but only on Japan, and generally sells for hundreds upon hundreds of dollars.

I tell you something, when Prince played various Paisley Park Records videos on the big video screens before his headline performance at Hop Farm Festival in 2011, and Mazarati came on, thousands of English people in a field in Kent didn't know what hit 'em! Their album still slams so hard smile

It DOES biggrin

I was wondering why the second album hadn't been released by WB/PP, then it hit me: since it was Mark's pet project, could it be that Mark took 'em with him at Motown? This could explain the little interest Motown put in this album (released only in Kannada cool ), like Mark forced the band on the label and they just took it to get him? Pure speculation here, but it'd make sense. What do u think?

It's not speculation, in fact that's exactly what happened. When Mark left Paisley Park to go to Motown as a solo artist, he did indeed take Mazarati with him.

Interestingly, Prince did allow them to use "Don't Leave Me Baby", which was a Paisley Park recorded song, and originally appeared as the B-Side to "100MPH", on the second Mazarati album.

"Mazarati 2" is such a mess though. You've got the first half of the album produced by Michael Sembello and Bernadette Cooper of Klymaxx, the second half produced by Mark, and you've got some tracks with the original vocalist Casey Terry and then some other tracks sang by G-Sharp?

But I still love it.

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Militant said:

databank said:

It DOES biggrin

I was wondering why the second album hadn't been released by WB/PP, then it hit me: since it was Mark's pet project, could it be that Mark took 'em with him at Motown? This could explain the little interest Motown put in this album (released only in Kannada cool ), like Mark forced the band on the label and they just took it to get him? Pure speculation here, but it'd make sense. What do u think?

It's not speculation, in fact that's exactly what happened. When Mark left Paisley Park to go to Motown as a solo artist, he did indeed take Mazarati with him.

Interestingly, Prince did allow them to use "Don't Leave Me Baby", which was a Paisley Park recorded song, and originally appeared as the B-Side to "100MPH", on the second Mazarati album.

"Mazarati 2" is such a mess though. You've got the first half of the album produced by Michael Sembello and Bernadette Cooper of Klymaxx, the second half produced by Mark, and you've got some tracks with the original vocalist Casey Terry and then some other tracks sang by G-Sharp?

But I still love it.

Haaa very interesting, thx for the detailed info! I had never realized a PP b-side had ended on it, neither that there were 2 vocalists. Regarding the PP song, P's presence on Mark's second album seems to indicate they maintained a good relationship after his departure so that could explain it. M2 not as wow as the first album but I like it a lot, too.

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Reply #17 posted 04/24/15 3:49am

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databank said:

Militant said:

It's not speculation, in fact that's exactly what happened. When Mark left Paisley Park to go to Motown as a solo artist, he did indeed take Mazarati with him.

Interestingly, Prince did allow them to use "Don't Leave Me Baby", which was a Paisley Park recorded song, and originally appeared as the B-Side to "100MPH", on the second Mazarati album.

"Mazarati 2" is such a mess though. You've got the first half of the album produced by Michael Sembello and Bernadette Cooper of Klymaxx, the second half produced by Mark, and you've got some tracks with the original vocalist Casey Terry and then some other tracks sang by G-Sharp?

But I still love it.

Haaa very interesting, thx for the detailed info! I had never realized a PP b-side had ended on it, neither that there were 2 vocalists. Regarding the PP song, P's presence on Mark's second album seems to indicate they maintained a good relationship after his departure so that could explain it. M2 not as wow as the first album but I like it a lot, too.

I just realized it wasn't up to Prince but to WB, as Prince only got the PP masters back in 1994 when WB shut the label down.

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