KingSausage said:

honer said:

Kendrick Fukin Lamar! What a bag of shite he is!

Yeah, what a bag of shite. Hmm. A 95% Metacritic score for his new album. When was the last time Prince had such critical consensus behind him? He's already been smoked by D'Angelo. Now Kendrick smoked him too.

The problem with Prince and metacritic is that it calculates albums like AOA reviewed by rock critics in magazines that don't do R&B, and PLEC reviewed by urban magazines that don't do rock all that well. Magazines don't send critics that are only into rock music to review someone like Kendrik Lamar, they send someone who knows his genre, same with D'Angelo and anyone else you'd want to compare metacritic scores to. But what is Prince's genre? He doesn't really have one. Even Prince's own fanbase, as diverse as their tastes are, don't go everywhere he does musically (hence this thread that pops up every other week despite 3EG's talent)

lezama said:

KingSausage said:

honer said: Yeah, what a bag of shite. Hmm. A 95% Metacritic score for his new album. When was the last time Prince had such critical consensus behind him? He's already been smoked by D'Angelo. Now Kendrick smoked him too.

The problem with Prince and metacritic is that it calculates albums like AOA reviewed by rock critics in magazines that don't do R&B, and PLEC reviewed by urban magazines that don't do rock all that well. Magazines don't send critics that are only into rock music to review someone like Kendrik Lamar, they send someone who knows his genre, same with D'Angelo and anyone else you'd want to compare metacritic scores to. But what is Prince's genre? He doesn't really have one. Even Prince's own fanbase, as diverse as their tastes are, don't go everywhere he does musically (hence this thread that pops up every other week despite 3EG's talent)

The problem with Prince and metacritic is that he hasn't put out an album that deserves a high score since the 90s. Make up all of the excuses you like. The latest release by D'Angelo blows away anything that Prince has done in many, many years.

SoulAlive said:

3rdEyeGirl is a very weak band.Their performances put me to sleep.We all know that Prince has had much better bands in the past.

I think they can play and they're great live with Prince, but I think they've come to the end of their usefulness. They are great for backing him up, but as a 'band' for more projects and albums...well no they dont have their own personality as a band...you're right....they're weak in that way. They have nothing interesting to say as a group.


PE was lacking not for music or musicianship but for cohesive, joint shared passion, message and purpose that leads itself to making a staement as an album.



Lets hope 3EG starts to wind down.

hw3004 said:

JoshuaWho said:

I hope they disappear after this Hit n Run tour (one of my least favorite Prince concert techniques - makes me reminisce about the good ol NPGMC when real fans got the best shots at the best seats well in advance). Sure he has had weaker drummers (the much maligned Kirk Johnson and Bobby Z come to mind) than Hannah but her vocals are the worst he has ever had the audacity to present to us - and that includes Vanity! Her limitations are immediately apparent and Prince simply has her trying to do too much. And I am convinced that her husband is damn near worthless as far as I am concerned (I know there is all that speculation on his input or influence or some bullshit that was suppose to be "updating" Prince for the trendy teeny bopper, social media crowd but I am not buying any of it). All 3 of the chicks can play - especially that guitarist. But is still more flash and novelty than substance - and this is woefully obvious about 20 minutes into PlectrumElectrum. Especially when you look at the last 20 years of lineups that Prince has employed.

You've alluded to it yourself but the late 90s line up with Kirky J on drums is, in my opinion the weakest band Prince ever fronted.

Sure Hannah's not the greatest singer in the world but so what? I think 3EG come in for an unfair amount of criticism on here. When you look to reviews out there in "the real world" then acclaim for the current shows and line up is fairly unanimous.

All of the other players in the Kirk band were solid and none were doing something that they should be doing - so that is "so what" with Hannah horrible singing and lack of stage presence or creativity.

BobGeorge909 said:

Champaign and grand central.

Thats about right - but I am not all that sure about Grand Central - they did have Morris Day on drums

SignOthetimes1987 said:

3rdeyegirl is the new absolute nadir in Prince'career.

Josh Welton is a nobody,brings only more Christian fantacism

and dull sounds into the picture.

Hanna can obviously not sing at all and she's lead vocal

on too many tracks like whitecaps.

they can play,but Prince is in a self imposed prison.

he puts unneccasry limits on his art for crying out loud.

everybody who's a real fan of the real Prince we all knew suffer for it.

I wish he would jujst wake the f up.

for real and bring something to the table with help from D'Angelo,The Roots

and Kendrick Lamar.not Joshua Welton.

You had me until you did what every Prince.org fan seems to do: name of people who are not worthy to "help" Prince. Kendrick Lamar hasnt even been alive long enough to carry Prince's jock - are you kidding me? DAngelo and The Roots are still ripping off what Prince did 20 years ago.

JoshuaWho said:

No sense in comparing P to D'Angelo. His new album was really boring, I don't know what all the fuss is about. It sounds like he's drunk and/or high.

I agree this band gets more criticism being women. I've seen them live and each time it was great.

ea1313 said:

No sense in comparing P to D'Angelo. His new album was really boring, I don't know what all the fuss is about. It sounds like he's drunk and/or high.

I agree this band gets more criticism being women. I've seen them live and each time it was great.

I am glad to hear someone else say that about DAngelo. I downloaded it and regret wasting an CD-R on it.

The woman cop out is just that. Some female bands memgers over the years have been cited for being heavily overrated - ie. Wendy and Lisa, Jill Jones - and others have always been highly respected, and rightfully so, for their musicianship - ie. Shiela E., Rosie Gaines, Rhonda Smith

jjazznola said:

lezama said:

The problem with Prince and metacritic is that it calculates albums like AOA reviewed by rock critics in magazines that don't do R&B, and PLEC reviewed by urban magazines that don't do rock all that well. Magazines don't send critics that are only into rock music to review someone like Kendrik Lamar, they send someone who knows his genre, same with D'Angelo and anyone else you'd want to compare metacritic scores to. But what is Prince's genre? He doesn't really have one. Even Prince's own fanbase, as diverse as their tastes are, don't go everywhere he does musically (hence this thread that pops up every other week despite 3EG's talent)

The problem with Prince and metacritic is that he hasn't put out an album that deserves a high score since the 90s. Make up all of the excuses you like. The latest release by D'Angelo blows away anything that Prince has done in many, many years.

I wasnt analyzing anyone opinions of those albums. Just making an observation about which magazines rated what Prince album how in Prince's metacritic reviews for AOA & PLEC. I dont care what you thought about anything. I would rather fuck a razor blade than listen to Black Messiah. That mumbling shit puts me to sleep. Different strokes for different folks.

I have no problem with 3rd Eye Girl as his band. However, the problem I have with them is I don't want to hear Hanna sing the lead. I want to hear Prince and I like the music with this band just not her singing. The song with Prince on vocals on PE are GREAT!! They are AWESOME live BUT I get frustrated with them live because Prince makes them play all 80s stuff and very little of their own material. I would much rather hear their stuff and if they have to play some old stuff then change it up like they did on Lets Go Crazy and Shes always in my hair to make to their style. The sampler set is a big show killer also. Thats really about it. If they went out there and rocked their stuff with a few(literally just a few) oldies in their style it would knock people out. Instead we are forced by PRINCE to play the same dozen tired songs from the 80s. When they did the new stuff overseas they tore it up!! The studio stuff with Prince singing with them backing is very good too in my opinion. A few minor changes and they are great!! I think its more of Prince's fault holding them down than it is that they suck. Prince makes her sing. He chooses the songs to release. And he chooses the old songs to play instead of the material that they made together.

luvsexy4all said:

why come here to prove u r not interested in what he's doing?

this^. i'm hoping prince and third eye girl give us another album before they break up. PE rocks

KingSausage said:

honer said:

Kendrick Fukin Lamar! What a bag of shite he is!

Yeah, what a bag of shite. Hmm. A 95% Metacritic score for his new album. When was the last time Prince had such critical consensus behind him? He's already been smoked by D'Angelo. Now Kendrick smoked him too.

Course it has a score of 95%, the world is full of fukin idiots!

honer said:

KingSausage said:

honer said: Yeah, what a bag of shite. Hmm. A 95% Metacritic score for his new album. When was the last time Prince had such critical consensus behind him? He's already been smoked by D'Angelo. Now Kendrick smoked him too.

Course it has a score of 95%, the world is full of fukin idiots!

to say only idiots love Kendricks new album is to say you dont understand music

in any way shape o fucking form.lol.KL's album is over a lot of peoples heads.

compare AOA to some real forward leaning music.

some innovative shit.

AOA and plectrum feel so emabarrasing compared to Kendrick

(and D'Angelo too.)

SignOthetimes1987 said:

honer said:

Course it has a score of 95%, the world is full of fukin idiots!

to say only idiots love Kendricks new album is to say you dont understand music

in any way shape o fucking form.lol.KL's album is over a lot of peoples heads.

compare AOA to some real forward leaning music.

some innovative shit.

AOA and plectrum feel so emabarrasing compared to Kendrick

(and D'Angelo too.)

Frankly I found D'Angelos record boring as hell the third time I listeened, and weirldy am still digging Kendrick Lamar. Which I woul dhave bet woukd not have been the case
I do agree that Prince cant seem to get out of retread mode. Just becasue someone is young doent mean they can't shake some crapp loose that needs to be shook. There are surely young producers who could rattle Prince into a better direction of given a chance but Pricnes ego wouldn't have it (hi perogative of course) . Just becasue you are massively talented doesnt mean you can't learn from others less so.

Zannaloaf said:

SignOthetimes1987 said:

to say only idiots love Kendricks new album is to say you dont understand music

in any way shape o fucking form.lol.KL's album is over a lot of peoples heads.

compare AOA to some real forward leaning music.

some innovative shit.

AOA and plectrum feel so emabarrasing compared to Kendrick

(and D'Angelo too.)

Frankly I found D'Angelos record boring as hell the third time I listeened, and weirldy am still digging Kendrick Lamar. Which I woul dhave bet woukd not have been the case
I do agree that Prince cant seem to get out of retread mode. Just becasue someone is young doent mean they can't shake some crapp loose that needs to be shook. There are surely young producers who could rattle Prince into a better direction of given a chance but Pricnes ego wouldn't have it (hi perogative of course) . Just becasue you are massively talented doesnt mean you can't learn from others less so.

If you think of the Musicology days, everyone was way talented. And the new band is too but they are younger and just sort of getting started. So he can teach them stuff and teach them how to be creative instead of being creative. It must be a trip for them and for now that seems to make him happy so who are we to say what he should or shouldn't be doing? At the end of the day he is just a musician.

SignOthetimes1987 said:

honer said:

Course it has a score of 95%, the world is full of fukin idiots!

to say only idiots love Kendricks new album is to say you dont understand music

in any way shape o fucking form.lol.KL's album is over a lot of peoples heads.

compare AOA to some real forward leaning music.

some innovative shit.

AOA and plectrum feel so emabarrasing compared to Kendrick

(and D'Angelo too.)

Its shit and yes only idiots like Kendrick, only an idiot would think its music, its proper proper hardcore dogshit!

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KingSausage said:

why do things HAVE to be "better" ..cant they just be different

luvsexy4all said:

why do things HAVE to be "better" ..cant they just be different

Right,

such a fanbase.....lol

SoulAlive said: