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Thread started 04/02/14 7:32am

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Jesse Johnson and Eric Leeds on the new MJ album

Michael Jackson & D'Angelo+ Mary J Blige
"H** ** *** *********e"

Produced by D'ANGELO

Michael+D'Angelo+Mary-VOCALS

D'Angelo-All keys+Sitar
Jesse Johnson-All guitars (Taylor T5z & T5 Acoustics)
Ahmir "Questlove" Thompson-Drums (aka: "Afican Telephone")
Pino Palladino-Basssss
Eric "Ric" Leeds-all Horns

Engineers:
Russ Elevado
Ben Kane
Executive Producer:
John McClain

I was very honored to have been chosen to a part of this event. I hope it brings the same kind of pleasure to your earholes as it did to ours making it.

LovePeace,
Jesse J

holy shit!!!!

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Reply #1 posted 04/02/14 9:18am

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Militant said:

Michael Jackson & D'Angelo+ Mary J Blige
"H** ** *** *********e"

Produced by D'ANGELO

Michael+D'Angelo+Mary-VOCALS

D'Angelo-All keys+Sitar
Jesse Johnson-All guitars (Taylor T5z & T5 Acoustics)
Ahmir "Questlove" Thompson-Drums (aka: "Afican Telephone")
Pino Palladino-Basssss
Eric "Ric" Leeds-all Horns

Engineers:
Russ Elevado
Ben Kane
Executive Producer:
John McClain

I was very honored to have been chosen to a part of this event. I hope it brings the same kind of pleasure to your earholes as it did to ours making it.

LovePeace,
Jesse J

holy shit!!!!

Good for them but I still find it weird to have poeple tempering with demos after the artist's death. Even if they're too unfinished to be released as such I wish said demos were at least released as they were on a bonus CD. I had real mixed feelings about Michael. Now here at least the people involved really rock so it may rock! And I'm glad Eric and Jesse get that much visibility! But still...

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Reply #2 posted 04/02/14 12:08pm

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One big reason this song sucks ass michael jackson would of never worked with them b/c of the prince connection he distanced hisself from prince sound and working with all those prince wanna bee is not something michael would do and Mary j and michael doesn't sound promising this record should of happened minus michael
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Reply #3 posted 04/02/14 1:26pm

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databank said:

Militant said:

holy shit!!!!

Good for them but I still find it weird to have poeple tempering with demos after the artist's death. Even if they're too unfinished to be released as such I wish said demos were at least released as they were on a bonus CD. I had real mixed feelings about Michael. Now here at least the people involved really rock so it may rock! And I'm glad Eric and Jesse get that much visibility! But still...

The deluxe edition has the original demo's on the second disc, which I'm very pleased and excited about.

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Reply #4 posted 04/02/14 8:03pm

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Militant said:

Michael Jackson & D'Angelo+ Mary J Blige
"H** ** *** *********e"

Produced by D'ANGELO

Michael+D'Angelo+Mary-VOCALS

D'Angelo-All keys+Sitar
Jesse Johnson-All guitars (Taylor T5z & T5 Acoustics)
Ahmir "Questlove" Thompson-Drums (aka: "Afican Telephone")
Pino Palladino-Basssss
Eric "Ric" Leeds-all Horns

Engineers:
Russ Elevado
Ben Kane
Executive Producer:
John McClain

I was very honored to have been chosen to a part of this event. I hope it brings the same kind of pleasure to your earholes as it did to ours making it.

LovePeace,
Jesse J

holy shit!!!!

"Hot Fun In The Summertime"...

this should be amazing.

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Reply #5 posted 04/02/14 9:48pm

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databank said:

Good for them but I still find it weird to have poeple tempering with demos after the artist's death. Even if they're too unfinished to be released as such I wish said demos were at least released as they were on a bonus CD. I had real mixed feelings about Michael. Now here at least the people involved really rock so it may rock! And I'm glad Eric and Jesse get that much visibility! But still...

The deluxe edition has the original demo's on the second disc, which I'm very pleased and excited about.

Awesome! biggrin

Is there also such a deluxe version of Michael?? I'd so love to hear Behind The Mask as Michael had recorded it!!!

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Reply #6 posted 04/03/14 5:07am

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^^^unfortunatly not, I do like the 6 of the 7 MJ songs on it. Not fussed on Hold My Hand smile
[Edited 4/3/14 5:08am]
She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo

If I Said You Had A Beautiful Body Would You Hold It Against Me?
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Reply #7 posted 04/03/14 8:49am

thedoorkeeper

cbarnes3121 said:

One big reason this song sucks ass michael jackson would of never worked with them b/c of the prince connection...

MJ worked with Jam and Lewis

so it looks like MJ has already

been tainted with Prince stink. lol

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Reply #8 posted 04/03/14 8:56am

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databank said:

Militant said:

The deluxe edition has the original demo's on the second disc, which I'm very pleased and excited about.

Awesome! biggrin

Is there also such a deluxe version of Michael?? I'd so love to hear Behind The Mask as Michael had recorded it!!!

Sadly not. However, there's some fan made blends of "Behind The Mask" that come pretty close, mixing the 2010 album vocals with the "Behind The Mask" instrumental by Greg Phillinganes, which is the same music as MJ's original version. One of these versions was made by me, but I never finished it. Somebody else took the baton and completed it with the same methodology.

Here's one that's been done with that method.

https://soundcloud.com/ge...re-behind

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Reply #9 posted 04/03/14 11:19am

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databank said:

Awesome! biggrin

Is there also such a deluxe version of Michael?? I'd so love to hear Behind The Mask as Michael had recorded it!!!

Sadly not. However, there's some fan made blends of "Behind The Mask" that come pretty close, mixing the 2010 album vocals with the "Behind The Mask" instrumental by Greg Phillinganes, which is the same music as MJ's original version. One of these versions was made by me, but I never finished it. Somebody else took the baton and completed it with the same methodology.

Here's one that's been done with that method.

https://soundcloud.com/ge...re-behind

Awesome, thx so much! Being a huge YMO fan I wonder why these IDIOTS at Sony ever tempered with the original demo in the first place when I listen 2 that! The original sounds as it ruled! Dated yeah, but messing with historical documents in order to try and sell them to 2010 teenagers for the sake of easy money over a dead man's corpse... FUCK THE FUCKERS! sad

BTW was that "one nation under a groove" sax riff part of the original G.P. instrumental or was it added in 2010?

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databank said:

Militant said:

Sadly not. However, there's some fan made blends of "Behind The Mask" that come pretty close, mixing the 2010 album vocals with the "Behind The Mask" instrumental by Greg Phillinganes, which is the same music as MJ's original version. One of these versions was made by me, but I never finished it. Somebody else took the baton and completed it with the same methodology.

Here's one that's been done with that method.

https://soundcloud.com/ge...re-behind

Awesome, thx so much! Being a huge YMO fan I wonder why these IDIOTS at Sony ever tempered with the original demo in the first place when I listen 2 that! The original sounds as it ruled! Dated yeah, but messing with historical documents in order to try and sell them to 2010 teenagers for the sake of easy money over a dead man's corpse... FUCK THE FUCKERS! sad

BTW was that "one nation under a groove" sax riff part of the original G.P. instrumental or was it added in 2010?

This is the Greg Phillinganes version, which is said to be the same music as the original MJ version.

Also, the Eric Clapton version is based on the Greg and MJ version, and so they both have writers credits on it, along with Sakamoto-san.




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The horns on the 2010 MJ version were done by none other than Mike Phillips of the NPG.

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databank said:

Awesome, thx so much! Being a huge YMO fan I wonder why these IDIOTS at Sony ever tempered with the original demo in the first place when I listen 2 that! The original sounds as it ruled! Dated yeah, but messing with historical documents in order to try and sell them to 2010 teenagers for the sake of easy money over a dead man's corpse... FUCK THE FUCKERS! sad

BTW was that "one nation under a groove" sax riff part of the original G.P. instrumental or was it added in 2010?

This is the Greg Phillinganes version, which is said to be the same music as the original MJ version.

Also, the Eric Clapton version is based on the Greg and MJ version, and so they both have writers credits on it, along with Sakamoto-san.




This version is BRILLIANT!!! Thx!

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The horns on the 2010 MJ version were done by none other than Mike Phillips of the NPG.

Why all of a sudden such a Prince/MJ connection (Mike, Eric, Jesse) when these worlds were totally apart for 3 decades when it came to session musicians (that and the fact that basically, despite their talent, Prince ex bandmembers r usually totally IGNORED by the music industry while they'd be awesome session musicians)??? eek eek eek eek eek

And BTW did u ever try 2 push any past Prince bandmember into playing on a Swami record?

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databank said:

Militant said:

The horns on the 2010 MJ version were done by none other than Mike Phillips of the NPG.

Why all of a sudden such a Prince/MJ connection (Mike, Eric, Jesse) when these worlds were totally apart for 3 decades when it came to session musicians (that and the fact that basically, despite their talent, Prince ex bandmembers r usually totally IGNORED by the music industry while they'd be awesome session musicians)??? eek eek eek eek eek

And BTW did u ever try 2 push any past Prince bandmember into playing on a Swami record?

It's all down to John McClain, the co-executor of MJ's Estate. In the 80's, he was one of the heads of A&M Records, which Jesse was signed to, Janet Jackson was signed to (so Jam/Lewis connection there too). He's the one who reworked the 2010 version of "Behind The Mask" for the Michael album as well as this new MJ/D'Angelo/Mary/Jesse/Eric track.

I haven't as yet, but I'm friends with Matt Fink and we've talked about it, so maybe we can make something happen!

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Reply #15 posted 04/03/14 4:57pm

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There are no word for how much I despise the MJ Estate. I believe there is a special spot in hell waiting for those guys. Massive money mismanagement, preying on MJ's kids and family, terrible creative decisions.... I can't figure out why they are putting an album out at all other than as a quick grab for cash to cover their enormous tax bills. My guess is the public will see it for what it is and ignore this project. I can tell this track is shit from here and I haven't even heard it yet. How do I know already? Michael Jackson didn't use these type of musicians... EVER! So whatever they "produced" around some random half finished MJ demo, which clearly had incomplete stand in vocals never meant for final production, is more than likely a steaming pile of not right. MJ was a perfectioinst, especially about his vocals and we can reasonably assume if the vocals were right we wouldn't need additional lead singers. This should not be happening.

Remember "My Last Chance" the hit song produced around a Marvin Gaye demo, released 5 years after his death, but produced to MG's standards. You could never really tell, if no one told you that massive creative decisions were made to reach a style reminicent of something Gaye himself might have done to complete the track. Natalie Cole's duet with Nat King Cole brought Nat back for a new generation but sacrificed nothing in terms of the artistic integrety of Nat's original tracks. There is lots of demo level material out there by deceased artists, that have not been released because, you know, they are DEMOS. Does Michael get that type of respect.... NOPE.... His jackass lawyers license anything they think glorifies their own egos. Crony system. Well I for one am already snickering at these "artists" for trying to attach themselves to MJ's legacy, post-mortem without his permission. Prince should take note. When he passes I hope he leaves brhind a mandate to burn the vault, so that we won't be treated to some crackhead wannabes "production" of his unfinshed master tapes.

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databank said:

Why all of a sudden such a Prince/MJ connection (Mike, Eric, Jesse) when these worlds were totally apart for 3 decades when it came to session musicians (that and the fact that basically, despite their talent, Prince ex bandmembers r usually totally IGNORED by the music industry while they'd be awesome session musicians)??? eek eek eek eek eek

And BTW did u ever try 2 push any past Prince bandmember into playing on a Swami record?

It's all down to John McClain, the co-executor of MJ's Estate. In the 80's, he was one of the heads of A&M Records, which Jesse was signed to, Janet Jackson was signed to (so Jam/Lewis connection there too). He's the one who reworked the 2010 version of "Behind The Mask" for the Michael album as well as this new MJ/D'Angelo/Mary/Jesse/Eric track.

I haven't as yet, but I'm friends with Matt Fink and we've talked about it, so maybe we can make something happen!

Thx for the info and let us know if something ever happens with Matt biggrin

Oh, on a sidenotre I wanted 2 ask u regarding the other convo we had about Vevo: what I don't get is... Kobalt is not (AFAIK) a subsidiary of Universal nor Sony, so how come THEY have access to Vevo (FixUrLifeUp and Breakfast Can Wait) and NPG Records doesn't? After all NPG Records is technically a label even if it's mostly centered around a single artist, so if indie labels such as Kobalt can access Vevo, why couldn't Prince thru NPG???

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Reply #17 posted 04/04/14 5:40am

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databank said:

Militant said:

The horns on the 2010 MJ version were done by none other than Mike Phillips of the NPG.

Why all of a sudden such a Prince/MJ connection (Mike, Eric, Jesse) when these worlds were totally apart for 3 decades when it came to session musicians (that and the fact that basically, despite their talent, Prince ex bandmembers r usually totally IGNORED by the music industry while they'd be awesome session musicians)??? eek eek eek eek eek

And BTW did u ever try 2 push any past Prince bandmember into playing on a Swami record?

I think they are ignored for a reason. They might work fine in an enviroment created by Prince (where Prince plays most instruments anyway). That doesn't mean they would do a great job as session musicians playing all kinds of music. Eric is perhaps the best musician of the bunch, but even he is completely ignored in the jazz world.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #18 posted 04/04/14 6:27am

thedoorkeeper

Can't wait for this music - this will be MJ's greatest cd yet.

These are the kind of musicians MJ should have worked with

when he was alive instead of the plastic bubble gum flavor

of the month producers he favored.

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Reply #19 posted 04/04/14 6:40am

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databank said:

Militant said:

It's all down to John McClain, the co-executor of MJ's Estate. In the 80's, he was one of the heads of A&M Records, which Jesse was signed to, Janet Jackson was signed to (so Jam/Lewis connection there too). He's the one who reworked the 2010 version of "Behind The Mask" for the Michael album as well as this new MJ/D'Angelo/Mary/Jesse/Eric track.

I haven't as yet, but I'm friends with Matt Fink and we've talked about it, so maybe we can make something happen!

Thx for the info and let us know if something ever happens with Matt biggrin

Oh, on a sidenotre I wanted 2 ask u regarding the other convo we had about Vevo: what I don't get is... Kobalt is not (AFAIK) a subsidiary of Universal nor Sony, so how come THEY have access to Vevo (FixUrLifeUp and Breakfast Can Wait) and NPG Records doesn't? After all NPG Records is technically a label even if it's mostly centered around a single artist, so if indie labels such as Kobalt can access Vevo, why couldn't Prince thru NPG???

Will do! With regards to VEVO, I don't know the ins and outs of it, but I should think it's as simple as Kobalt having done a licensing deal to provide their video content to VEVO, and NPG haven't done so - and probably shouldn't, IMO, it doesn't make sense for a small label with a small stable of artists.

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