I gather that Jill Jones made her opinion clear about Prince on Facebook recently. But what did she actually say. Anyone knows?

I'd like to know. I hope one of the org members in the minority will come and tell us.

i wish i screenshot it. i read it and scrolled the 150+ comments. she's a looney toon and the people commenting are just as crazy. She's still bitter over something from 20 years ago. i would really love to know what exactly went on. She was talking about how he isn't responsible for her career but is for the lack thereof. she came at his makeup and said if it wasn't for wendy and lisa or her he wouldn't be who he is. complete bullshit.

tab32792 said:

i wish i screenshot it. i read it and scrolled the 150+ comments. she's a looney toon and the people commenting are just as crazy. She's still bitter over something from 20 years ago. i would really love to know what exactly went on. She was talking about how he isn't responsible for her career but is for the lack thereof. she came at his makeup and said if it wasn't for wendy and lisa or her he wouldn't be who he is. complete bullshit.

When is the last time Prince mentioned Jill Jones?

Nuff said.

Why is that people who don't know Prince can attack him on a daily basis on here but someone who actually knows him(except Wendy & Lisa) can't say a negative word about him on their own FB page without getting jumped on? Jill is cool in my book. Considering her page is friended by obvious Prince fans who tag her on ridiculous photos and other crap I think she keeps the Prince references to a minimum.

toots said:

I used to have her on my fb but had enough of her after one of her tirades ...shed type 10 plus one sentence tirade in a row and preach her political views endlessly...I had to remove her...nothing personal...I can only take so much personal opinion being shoved down my throat on a fb page....if u wanna rant fine but do it in one paragraph...there is a edit button along with a delete button instead of taking eternity to scroll to want u want to see n read....end of rant or pov

i thought i was the only one who realized how she does that i approached her on something she said and she quickly tried 2 change her words after our conversation.when people throw shots at prince they try 2 throw wendy and lisa in 2 say what he wouldnt be without them yet if u look at the songs prince had that went 2 number one they had nothing 2 do with em cuz prince wrote produced and performed alone.anywho back 2 jill she is a great singer but i think the chic wanna go in2 politics cuz she babbles daily on the world news

tab32792 said:

She's still bitter over something from 20 years ago.

What is she bitter about? I know that Prince wouldn't release her from her recording contract,so for seven years she couldn't make a new recording elsewhere.

It must be the season...

http://prince.org/msg/5/359129?&pg=1

I don't know if it has happened in other occasions, but I stepped on this thred, very similar situation as the current one right?

I agree she sounds bitter, she may have her reasons. I never think about my exes/old "flames", but that's only because I usually was the one acting bad so I can't really understand how it feels...

Prince after all these years still has female proteges from thirty years back still on his dick

I doubt they are still "on his dick". It's more likely they think of him as "a little dick" and they can talk about him on their facebook or twitter pages if they so choose to.

Sassey said:

I doubt they are still "on his dick". It's more likely they think of him as "a little dick" and they can talk about him on their facebook or twitter pages if they so choose to.

^ This.

Maybe if the majority of people who added women like Jill weren't constantly doing shit like tagging her in pics of Prince, or constantly bringing up Prince when they talk to her, or otherwise making it obvious that the only reason they friended her was because of Prince, maybe she would not mention him quite as much. Just a thought.

It was a childish, bitter rant, full of lame insults and said more about her than it did Prince. I felt it was totally uncalled for.

I also question the whole "locked in a contract for seven years" thing. For one thing, it's a contract that she signed in the first place. Secondly, Paisley Park Records only existed for 8 years (from 1985 to 1993), and in that time frame, she recorded and released an album in 1987 which was promoted with a music video, and recorded a subsequent album in 1989, for which another music video was filmed (Boom Boom). Sure, that second album didn't come out but it's not like he signed her and left her to fend for herself.

If you read any biography of any record label - be it Motown, be it Def Jam, be it Death Row - you'll read stories of artists whose careers didn't pan out the way they wanted, and some of them got treated a whole lot worse than Jill. Many never got to release a single, let alone an album.

Yes, it sucks that Jill's album perhaps didn't get the attention it deserved, but that is life, and that is business, and it certainly got a lot more than many other artists on Paisley Park. Mazarati's album is pure genius from start to finish and barely got any promotion either. Tony LeMans album was phenomenal and most people aren't aware it exists.

And the claim about Prince not being able to do anything without Wendy and Lisa is laughable. I guess she forgot that For You, Prince, Dirty Mind, Controversy, and 1999 were made by Prince alone with very little input by anyone else.

The problem with Jill is that her debut album was released too late.I've said repeatedly that her album should have been released in late 1984 or early 1985,so that she could have taken advantage of the Purple Rain hype.She had a small role in that movie.People knew who she was.Imagine if she had released a kickass song like "Sugar Walls" as her debut single in late '84.Her career would have really taken off.Instead,her album was released in 1987 and featured a handful of Purple Rain-era outtakes,which didn't stand a chance on pop radio in '87.A huge missed opportunity.

Jill was never a priority to Prince. From what I read she acted a bit thirsty and even intitate the call to Prince so he can give her a job and that was singing on 1999. And guys can spot and take advantage of thirsty chicks in a second. I wished she picked up the signs when he really didn't focus on her album right away yet focus on his side acts which some came to the picture after Jill, etc. Jill seemed like a smart woman and maybe she knew the signs that Prince didn't give a damn about her nor her career but she ignore them perhaps being too starstruck or hope he would change and give her album a more of a priority. I stated on here before it would have been nice if she would use some of her Motown connections due to sang back up for Teena Marie, Rick James, and her mother's marriage to Berry Gordy's bro instead of "waiting around for Prince". Like someone said on here to Prince in the past, she was just a thirsty jumpoff and Prince indeed took advantage of it. I am sad that she continues to rant about Prince on Facebook. I like Jill and she is talent but girl should consider to seek therapy or find ways to heal because she seem like a damaged soul as I read some of her posts. I sincerely hope her reality show get pick up and use this opportunity to revamp her career and move on!

toots said:

dafuzz said:

toots said:

I used to have her on my fb but had enough of her after one of her tirades ...shed type 10 plus one sentence tirade in a row and preach her political views endlessly...I had to remove her...nothing personal...I can only take so much personal opinion being shoved down my throat on a fb page....if u wanna rant fine but do it in one paragraph...there is a edit button along with a delete button instead of taking eternity to scroll to want u want to see n read....end of rant or pov

If you're a hardcore prince fan and not a friend or acquaintance of hers why would you want to be on her facebook?

That's the question nobody here will answer. Jill Jones didn't track any of them down and send them friend requests.

dafuzz said:

toots said:

I used to have her on my fb but had enough of her after one of her tirades ...shed type 10 plus one sentence tirade in a row and preach her political views endlessly...I had to remove her...nothing personal...I can only take so much personal opinion being shoved down my throat on a fb page....if u wanna rant fine but do it in one paragraph...there is a edit button along with a delete button instead of taking eternity to scroll to want u want to see n read....end of rant or pov

If you're a hardcore prince fan and not a friend or acquaintance of hers why would you want to be on her facebook?

I think they 'Friend' and 'Follow' these people because they're hardcore, obsessed Prince fanatics and as soon as the former Prince associates, who have worked with Prince and know him far better than any of his fans ever will, say anything about Prince, they come post on this site to tell how tired they are of the former associates talking about Prince but they're the ones who requested to be their friend and follow these people.

[Edited 6/17/13 7:39am]

SoulAlive said:

The problem with Jill is that her debut album was released too late.I've said repeatedly that her album should have been released in late 1984 or early 1985,so that she could have taken advantage of the Purple Rain hype.She had a small role in that movie.People knew who she was.Imagine if she had released a kickass song like "Sugar Walls" as her debut single in late '84.Her career would have really taken off.Instead,her album was released in 1987 and featured a handful of Purple Rain-era outtakes,which didn't stand a chance on pop radio in '87.A huge missed opportunity.

It's unfortunate what happened to her and she has every right to be vocal about it, especially on her own page. I do however wonder what she's been doing since that incident and why her career has not gone anywhere after that. I tried to listen to her new music and its god awful..sorry. She does seem happy, so i wish her well but its something that she continues to be angry about decade after decade. I hope she finds peace with it one day.

[Edited 6/17/13 8:29am]

dafuzz said:

toots said:

I used to have her on my fb but had enough of her after one of her tirades ...shed type 10 plus one sentence tirade in a row and preach her political views endlessly...I had to remove her...nothing personal...I can only take so much personal opinion being shoved down my throat on a fb page....if u wanna rant fine but do it in one paragraph...there is a edit button along with a delete button instead of taking eternity to scroll to want u want to see n read....end of rant or pov

If you're a hardcore prince fan and not a friend or acquaintance of hers why would you want to be on her facebook?

You friend them and follow them so when they say something about Prince that you don't agree with, you can bitch about it, duh!

That said, I DO have some as FB friends, and I follow a couple on twitter. And when they do mention something Prince-realated, I see it as what it is: A peek into the life of someone who's worked with him and knows him waaaaaaaaaaaay better than any of us ever will. Some things they say will corroborate what I've seen or heard elsewhere, other things will contradict. Some things they say will sound like they're a bitter ex (either romatically or professionally), other things will sound like they are talking about an old friend.

Nikademus said:

wonder505 said:

SoulAlive said:

The problem with Jill is that her debut album was released too late.I've said repeatedly that her album should have been released in late 1984 or early 1985,so that she could have taken advantage of the Purple Rain hype.She had a small role in that movie.People knew who she was.Imagine if she had released a kickass song like "Sugar Walls" as her debut single in late '84.Her career would have really taken off.Instead,her album was released in 1987 and featured a handful of Purple Rain-era outtakes,which didn't stand a chance on pop radio in '87.A huge missed opportunity.

It's unfortunate what happened to her and she has every right to be vocal about it, especially on her own page. I do however wonder what she's been doing since that incident and why her career has not gone anywhere after that. I tried to listen to her new music and its god awful..sorry. She does seem happy, so i wish her well but its something that she continues to be angry about decade after decade. I hope she finds peace with it one day.

I think she probably feels like...she contributed so much to Prince and his other proteges (singing backup on their records,singing backup behind a curtain for Vanity 6 on the '1999' tour,etc) but didn't get the chance to really have a great career of her own.When her solo debut album was finally released in 1987,it was dead on arrival (commercially speaking).That's got to be very frustrating,especially the years when she sat on the sidelines and watched Prince make stars out of Sheila E.,Apollonia and the others.I just don't think that Jill was ever a priority for Prince.He always seemed more interested in the others,even though some of them weren't as talented as Jill.

Bottom line is people are still envious of her history with Prince.

Nikademus said:

dafuzz said:

toots said: If you're a hardcore prince fan and not a friend or acquaintance of hers why would you want to be on her facebook?

You friend them and follow them so when they say something about Prince that you don't agree with, you can bitch about it, duh!

That said, I DO have some as FB friends, and I follow a couple on twitter. And when they do mention something Prince-realated, I see it as what it is: A peek into the life of someone who's worked with him and knows him waaaaaaaaaaaay better than any of us ever will. Some things they say will corroborate what I've seen or heard elsewhere, other things will contradict. Some things they say will sound like they're a bitter ex (either romatically or professionally), other things will sound like they are talking about an old friend.

The thing is tho, most of these former Prince associates have not had jack shit to do with Prince in over 20 years. So, they KNEW Prince. They don't know him now.

I have had former Prince associates try to friend me by the way. I have no freakin' idea why.

Stymie said:

I have had former Prince associates try to friend me by the way. I have no freakin' idea why.

because... you're you

Cinny said:

Stymie said:

I have had former Prince associates try to friend me by the way. I have no freakin' idea why.

because... you're you

Awwww

Stymie said:

Nikademus said:

You friend them and follow them so when they say something about Prince that you don't agree with, you can bitch about it, duh!

That said, I DO have some as FB friends, and I follow a couple on twitter. And when they do mention something Prince-realated, I see it as what it is: A peek into the life of someone who's worked with him and knows him waaaaaaaaaaaay better than any of us ever will. Some things they say will corroborate what I've seen or heard elsewhere, other things will contradict. Some things they say will sound like they're a bitter ex (either romatically or professionally), other things will sound like they are talking about an old friend.

The thing is tho, most of these former Prince associates have not had jack shit to do with Prince in over 20 years. So, they KNEW Prince. They don't know him now.

I have had former Prince associates try to friend me by the way. I have no freakin' idea why.

But still, even tho they knew him back then, they still know him more than most people on here. Sure, people can change parts of themselves over time, but still...

toots said:

Nikademus said:

You friend them and follow them so when they say something about Prince that you don't agree with, you can bitch about it, duh!

That said, I DO have some as FB friends, and I follow a couple on twitter. And when they do mention something Prince-realated, I see it as what it is: A peek into the life of someone who's worked with him and knows him waaaaaaaaaaaay better than any of us ever will. Some things they say will corroborate what I've seen or heard elsewhere, other things will contradict. Some things they say will sound like they're a bitter ex (either romatically or professionally), other things will sound like they are talking about an old friend.

I didn't only follow her cuase of prince ty....for those who think I did need to get that out of our feaking head and I'm not a hard core Prince fan as one put it u have the option to friend them on us fb no one forces u...another she talked about her family as well n other things it wasn't mainly about Prince... as I stated in my original post she went on a rampage/tirade about her POLITICAL view not prince...this was at the time of the election people reread my post before u start saying this and that about what I didnt post..and I have a few of his former band members on my fb as well they post things as well but they don't shove crap down my throat like Jill did her political views. [Edited 6/17/13 19:36pm]

I was refering to what dafuzz said ty...didn't realize you got quoted too

cbarnes3121 said:

toots said:

I used to have her on my fb but had enough of her after one of her tirades ...shed type 10 plus one sentence tirade in a row and preach her political views endlessly...I had to remove her...nothing personal...I can only take so much personal opinion being shoved down my throat on a fb page....if u wanna rant fine but do it in one paragraph...there is a edit button along with a delete button instead of taking eternity to scroll to want u want to see n read....end of rant or pov

i thought i was the only one who realized how she does that i approached her on something she said and she quickly tried 2 change her words after our conversation.when people throw shots at prince they try 2 throw wendy and lisa in 2 say what he wouldnt be without them yet if u look at the songs prince had that went 2 number one they had nothing 2 do with em cuz prince wrote produced and performed alone.anywho back 2 jill she is a great singer but i think the chic wanna go in2 politics cuz she babbles daily on the world news

except: Purple Rain, Let's Go Crazy, Take Me With U, Manic Monday and some others

Kiss = BrownMark, David Z and Mazarati + Prince