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Thread started 05/04/09 1:22pm

ernestsewell

Sheila E.'s Love

Is Sheila E. with a guy? I never hear about her dating anyone, or having a significant other. Like EVER. I can't imagine her not having a loving man in her life that she can love and love her.
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Reply #1 posted 05/04/09 1:49pm

squirrelgrease

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Man - no. Girl - yes.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #2 posted 05/04/09 3:11pm

ernestsewell

squirrelgrease said:

Man - no. Girl - yes.


She's not a lez!
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Reply #3 posted 05/04/09 3:20pm

BriaVelveeta

ernestsewell said:

squirrelgrease said:

Man - no. Girl - yes.


She's not a lez!

Even if she has had any involvement with women in her past, her current religious beliefs wouldn't permit it.

Wasn't she either married or at least engaged to some basketball player or something?
[Edited 5/4/09 15:21pm]
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Reply #4 posted 05/04/09 3:25pm

squirrelgrease

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ernestsewell said:

squirrelgrease said:

Man - no. Girl - yes.


She's not a lez!


It's not on her resume.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #5 posted 05/05/09 5:41am

SoulAlive

I heard that she was engaged to Prince (!) in 1988.
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Reply #6 posted 05/05/09 5:42am

SoulAlive

ernestsewell said:

squirrelgrease said:

Man - no. Girl - yes.


She's not a lez!


I wonder where/how the lesbian rumors got started? hmmm
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Reply #7 posted 05/05/09 9:32am

Efan

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SoulAlive said:

ernestsewell said:



She's not a lez!


I wonder where/how the lesbian rumors got started? hmmm


She kinda has herself to blame for that, doesn't she?
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Reply #8 posted 05/05/09 9:35am

ernestsewell

Efan said:

She kinda has herself to blame for that, doesn't she?


Why should she be blamed for something like that? Did she make out with chicks or something in public? No. Why does the subject of a rumor get blamed for it, rather than the tabloids, or fools, who start the rumor? Why not blame the ignorant instead of the victim?

It's like saying a woman deserves to be raped because she wore a short skirt to a bar. "She was asking for it." Bullshit.

Is it because she's near 50, and single? When did that become a crime and instant "lesbian" status for a woman? It's degrading to a woman to be dismissed as a lesbian (not that BEING a lesbian is degrading, mind you) simply because she's chosen not to marry by the 2nd act of her life.
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Reply #9 posted 05/05/09 10:04am

Efan

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ernestsewell said:

Efan said:

She kinda has herself to blame for that, doesn't she?


Why should she be blamed for something like that? Did she make out with chicks or something in public? No. Why does the subject of a rumor get blamed for it, rather than the tabloids, or fools, who start the rumor? Why not blame the ignorant instead of the victim?

It's like saying a woman deserves to be raped because she wore a short skirt to a bar. "She was asking for it." Bullshit.

Is it because she's near 50, and single? When did that become a crime and instant "lesbian" status for a woman? It's degrading to a woman to be dismissed as a lesbian (not that BEING a lesbian is degrading, mind you) simply because she's chosen not to marry by the 2nd act of her life.


Uh, calm down. Rape? Really? You couldn't find a way to work Hitler in there too?

Sheila's '80s work was similar to Prince's, obviously--sexually suggestive and often having same-sex overtones or double entendres. Examples:

1) The Belle of St. Mark--"belle" being a feminine term. The lyrics refer to a male, but the title suggests a female.

2) Sister Fate--"If they knew the real truth/they'd probably die/I could never do nothin'/To live up to those lies"--that was when people really started wondering.

3) Dear Michaelangelo--"I'll make love to no one/unless he's of your persuasion"--Michaelangelo was gay.

4) Hollyrock--"I'll pet your kitten/your little dog too"--come on, by this point, Prince was writing incredibly blatant lyrics for her. She was being provocative, and it is NOT wrong for listeners to pick up on it and question what Sheila was trying to tell us.

5) Sex Cymbal--"Come, make me happy/I don't mean just the boys"

If there had never been any reports of Sheila being with women, just these lyrics alone would be enough for people to wonder if she was a lesbian (or a "lez," as you so classily put it). She started it. That's all there is to it.
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Reply #10 posted 05/05/09 10:12am

ernestsewell

Efan said:

Uh, calm down. Rape? Really? You couldn't find a way to work Hitler in there too?

Sheila's '80s work was similar to Prince's, obviously--sexually suggestive and often having same-sex overtones or double entendres. Examples:


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Utter rubbish.

And I had a phone call, so I had to nix the Hitler references I had typed out.

And I'm quite calm. Thanks, muffin.
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Reply #11 posted 05/05/09 10:25am

Efan

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ernestsewell said:

Efan said:

Uh, calm down. Rape? Really? You couldn't find a way to work Hitler in there too?

Sheila's '80s work was similar to Prince's, obviously--sexually suggestive and often having same-sex overtones or double entendres. Examples:


snip

Utter rubbish.

And I had a phone call, so I had to nix the Hitler references I had typed out.

And I'm quite calm. Thanks, muffin.


Are you one of those people who missed Prince's androgyny and gay references too? If you refuse to see any nuance in the lyrics and image she was crafting at the time, whatever. But it was definitely there.
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Reply #12 posted 05/05/09 10:41am

ernestsewell

Efan said:

ernestsewell said:



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Utter rubbish.

And I had a phone call, so I had to nix the Hitler references I had typed out.

And I'm quite calm. Thanks, muffin.


Are you one of those people who missed Prince's androgyny and gay references too? If you refuse to see any nuance in the lyrics and image she was crafting at the time, whatever. But it was definitely there.


Yeah, that's it. It was totally lost on me. You nailed it. rolleyes
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Reply #13 posted 05/05/09 10:52am

Efan

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ernestsewell said:

Efan said:



Are you one of those people who missed Prince's androgyny and gay references too? If you refuse to see any nuance in the lyrics and image she was crafting at the time, whatever. But it was definitely there.


Yeah, that's it. It was totally lost on me. You nailed it. rolleyes


Good. I'm glad I could clear that up for you! thumbs up!
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Reply #14 posted 05/07/09 3:27am

SoulAlive

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Wasn't she either married or at least engaged to some basketball player or something?


In the mid-80s,I remember hearing this rumor....that she was engaged to some professional football or basketball player.I also remember a rumor that she was romantically involved with actor Stoney Jackson but I think that was just wishful thinking on his part,lol.
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Reply #15 posted 05/07/09 2:33pm

utopia7

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maybe someone should ask Wendy and Lisa confused
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Reply #16 posted 05/15/09 11:47am

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Back in the day around 1985-86 my sister was living in minniapolis working for honeywell. Her apartment was in the same building as Jerome (of the time/family). Jerome and my sister's husband became good friends. When I went to visit them a few years later they told me about the friendship they also told me some gossip. I for sure remember them telling me that Sheila was a lesbian and I'm pretty sure that they said Cat was as well. They had zero reason to make that up. There's a reason that Sheila has never been really linked with a man. Its pretty obvious.
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Reply #17 posted 05/15/09 3:04pm

SCNDLS

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Most people around here KNOW wassup. It don't matter. Shit I ain't no lesbian but I'd do Sheila or at least let her do me. . . wait . . . nevermind. boxed

lol
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Reply #18 posted 05/15/09 4:06pm

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tricky99 said:

Back in the day around 1985-86 my sister was living in minniapolis working for honeywell. Her apartment was in the same building as Jerome (of the time/family). Jerome and my sister's husband became good friends. When I went to visit them a few years later they told me about the friendship they also told me some gossip. I for sure remember them telling me that Sheila was a lesbian and I'm pretty sure that they said Cat was as well. They had zero reason to make that up. There's a reason that Sheila has never been really linked with a man. Its pretty obvious.

The truth doesn't really matter to me either way, but I always heard Sheila and Cat had something going on and Prince got off on that shit too...2 women going at it. I'm sorry but a somewhat famous celebrity that has NEVER been linked to a man..I'm pretty sure you all can figure it out for yourselves.
TRUE BLUE
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Reply #19 posted 05/15/09 4:21pm

SoulAlive

Wow,now we know what Sheila meant when she sang "If they knew the REAL TRUTH,they'd probably die" lol
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Reply #20 posted 05/15/09 8:23pm

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BriaVelveeta said:

ernestsewell said:



She's not a lez!

Even if she has had any involvement with women in her past, her current religious beliefs wouldn't permit it.

Wasn't she either married or at least engaged to some basketball player or something?
[Edited 5/4/09 15:21pm]


It would depend, alot of people don't realize it but there are a number of Christian denominations that except gay men & women.

A lot of times for the sakes of those members they try not to draw much attention to their congregations.

I even know of a bishop of a c.o.g.i.c. congregation in Michigan who came out to his congregation (and had a male partner) and only a few people left
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Reply #21 posted 05/15/09 8:28pm

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tricky99 said:

Back in the day around 1985-86 my sister was living in minniapolis working for honeywell. Her apartment was in the same building as Jerome (of the time/family). Jerome and my sister's husband became good friends. When I went to visit them a few years later they told me about the friendship they also told me some gossip. I for sure remember them telling me that Sheila was a lesbian and I'm pretty sure that they said Cat was as well. They had zero reason to make that up. There's a reason that Sheila has never been really linked with a man. Its pretty obvious.


Cat: if she is into women she must be bisexual, she is in her 40's and has 2(?) kids and has been in relationships with men.
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Reply #22 posted 05/15/09 8:31pm

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Efan said:

SoulAlive said:



I wonder where/how the lesbian rumors got started? hmmm


She kinda has herself to blame for that, doesn't she?


I don't think blame has anything to do with it.
Women take sexual abuse differently than men, and she was sexually abuse for a long time in her youth.

They say women tend to either become frigid or really loose. Maybe Sheila is the former. That can be something hard to deal with, according to interviews it was not long ago that she started talking about it or healing from it.

I strongly believe she was in love with Prince in the earlier years though.

But if she is attracted to women, I wouldn't think of her any different.
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Reply #23 posted 05/16/09 4:51pm

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tricky99 said:

Back in the day around 1985-86 my sister was living in minniapolis working for honeywell. Her apartment was in the same building as Jerome (of the time/family). Jerome and my sister's husband became good friends. When I went to visit them a few years later they told me about the friendship they also told me some gossip. I for sure remember them telling me that Sheila was a lesbian and I'm pretty sure that they said Cat was as well. They had zero reason to make that up. There's a reason that Sheila has never been really linked with a man. Its pretty obvious.

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This all my be true but Sheile has talked about her romatic involvement with Prince a lot over the last few years.
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Reply #24 posted 05/17/09 11:06am

SCNDLS

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OldFriends4Sale said:

tricky99 said:

Back in the day around 1985-86 my sister was living in minniapolis working for honeywell. Her apartment was in the same building as Jerome (of the time/family). Jerome and my sister's husband became good friends. When I went to visit them a few years later they told me about the friendship they also told me some gossip. I for sure remember them telling me that Sheila was a lesbian and I'm pretty sure that they said Cat was as well. They had zero reason to make that up. There's a reason that Sheila has never been really linked with a man. Its pretty obvious.


Cat: if she is into women she must be bisexual, she is in her 40's and has 2(?) kids and has been in relationships with men.

rolleyes What that mean? I KNOW lots of women with kids that consider themselves lesbian. For some people sexuality is an evolution.
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Reply #25 posted 05/17/09 11:09am

SCNDLS

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laurarichardson said:

tricky99 said:

Back in the day around 1985-86 my sister was living in minniapolis working for honeywell. Her apartment was in the same building as Jerome (of the time/family). Jerome and my sister's husband became good friends. When I went to visit them a few years later they told me about the friendship they also told me some gossip. I for sure remember them telling me that Sheila was a lesbian and I'm pretty sure that they said Cat was as well. They had zero reason to make that up. There's a reason that Sheila has never been really linked with a man. Its pretty obvious.

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This all my be true but Sheile has talked about her romatic involvement with Prince a lot over the last few years.

Again, what that mean? Just cuz she was into a dude 20 years ago doesn't mean things couldn't have changed. Besides, many gay folks know from early on that they're gay but try to be hetero due to pressures/guilt from their family/society. And finally come out in later years. I have many gay friends that have kids and were married for 20 years but knew all along they were really gay. It happens every day. shrug
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Reply #26 posted 05/17/09 11:29am

BriaVelveeta

SCNDLS said:

laurarichardson said:


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This all my be true but Sheile has talked about her romatic involvement with Prince a lot over the last few years.

Again, what that mean? Just cuz she was into a dude 20 years ago doesn't mean things couldn't have changed. Besides, many gay folks know from early on that they're gay but try to be hetero due to pressures/guilt from their family/society. And finally come out in later years. I have many gay friends that have kids and were married for 20 years but knew all along they were really gay. It happens every day. shrug

AND if we're talking about Prince, it's not that great a leap to be with a female anyway.
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Reply #27 posted 05/17/09 11:37am

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BriaVelveeta said:

SCNDLS said:


Again, what that mean? Just cuz she was into a dude 20 years ago doesn't mean things couldn't have changed. Besides, many gay folks know from early on that they're gay but try to be hetero due to pressures/guilt from their family/society. And finally come out in later years. I have many gay friends that have kids and were married for 20 years but knew all along they were really gay. It happens every day. shrug

AND if we're talking about Prince, it's not that great a leap to be with a female anyway.

faint I'm DONE! He IS a fancy lesbian, after all. lol
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Reply #28 posted 05/17/09 12:06pm

SoulAlive

BriaVelveeta said:

SCNDLS said:


Again, what that mean? Just cuz she was into a dude 20 years ago doesn't mean things couldn't have changed. Besides, many gay folks know from early on that they're gay but try to be hetero due to pressures/guilt from their family/society. And finally come out in later years. I have many gay friends that have kids and were married for 20 years but knew all along they were really gay. It happens every day. shrug

AND if we're talking about Prince, it's not that great a leap to be with a female anyway.



lol This reminds me of something that Robin Power said on this site.She said that being with Prince (sexually) was like "being with a woman,but that's okay because I'm into women too".
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Reply #29 posted 05/18/09 7:08am

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SCNDLS said:

laurarichardson said:


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This all my be true but Sheile has talked about her romatic involvement with Prince a lot over the last few years.

Again, what that mean? Just cuz she was into a dude 20 years ago doesn't mean things couldn't have changed. Besides, many gay folks know from early on that they're gay but try to be hetero due to pressures/guilt from their family/society. And finally come out in later years. I have many gay friends that have kids and were married for 20 years but knew all along they were really gay. It happens every day. shrug

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I think it means she might have been going both ways. She wanted to marry P.
Keep in mind she was also sexually abused so she may not know what she is.
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