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Thread started 07/05/07 11:09am

Riverpoet31

The time are overrated: anyone agrees?

Bringing a 'sore object' into here, knowing how much The Time is praised by devotees of the Minneapolis sound and people who are sentimental about the Purple Rain years.

But, to be clear, IMO The Time are the most overrated band to come out of the Prince camp. Why?

At first, especially on their first two albums allmost all the music was composed, written, arranged and played by Prince, with Morris on vocals. So why praise "The Time" for those albums?

The ballads released by The Time were toe-curlingy bad. Morris Day can spice up a catchy, cocky funk-riff, but when it comes to ballads he just sounds like a parody of a soul-singer.

The production on some of their songs sounds really cheesy. When you look at some of the older video's of the Time on Youtube, its almost painfull to see how dated they often sound.

Jam and Lewis might have been succesfull with their commercial branche of the Minneapolis sound but they sure didnt ad something substantial or classic to popular music is. Its probably their fault that they influenced some swedish producers, terrorising our charts with the likes of Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys.

No single member of The Time has outgrown himself. Morris day did get into coke and played roles in irritating B-movies, Nobody outside Minneapolis knows who Jesse Johnson is (and it better stays that way), Paul Petersons idea of a comeback is the reunion of The Family, a band that has no interest at all, apart from some die-hard Prince fans, Jerome is someone who can hold up a mirror and act goofy, so?

To put it in short: The Time is the most overrated band ever to come out of the Minneapolis / Prince camp, and to be honest, without Prince they were and are nothing.
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Reply #1 posted 07/05/07 11:14am

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Reply #2 posted 07/05/07 11:25am

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jay and silient bob



Jay:

Don't you never say an unkind word about the Time. Me and Silent Bob modeled our whole fucking lives around Morris Day and Jerome. I'm a smooth pimp who loves the pussy. And Tubby here is my black man servant.
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Reply #3 posted 07/05/07 11:30am

sexxydancer

Agreed.They r nothing without Prince,but I love the original group anywayz. lol
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Reply #4 posted 07/05/07 11:31am

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they rock headbang

they were the saving grace of the Rave dvd nod
cream.
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Reply #5 posted 07/05/07 11:34am

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Check the 1983 triple threat tour performance on DVD , they rocked !!!!!
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Reply #6 posted 07/05/07 11:38am

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Riverpoet31 said:

Bringing a 'sore object' into here, knowing how much The Time is praised by devotees of the Minneapolis sound and people who are sentimental about the Purple Rain years.

But, to be clear, IMO The Time are the most overrated band to come out of the Prince camp. Why?

At first, especially on their first two albums allmost all the music was composed, written, arranged and played by Prince, with Morris on vocals. So why praise "The Time" for those albums?

The ballads released by The Time were toe-curlingy bad. Morris Day can spice up a catchy, cocky funk-riff, but when it comes to ballads he just sounds like a parody of a soul-singer.

The production on some of their songs sounds really cheesy. When you look at some of the older video's of the Time on Youtube, its almost painfull to see how dated they often sound.

Jam and Lewis might have been succesfull with their commercial branche of the Minneapolis sound but they sure didnt ad something substantial or classic to popular music is. Its probably their fault that they influenced some swedish producers, terrorising our charts with the likes of Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys.

No single member of The Time has outgrown himself. Morris day did get into coke and played roles in irritating B-movies, Nobody outside Minneapolis knows who Jesse Johnson is (and it better stays that way), Paul Petersons idea of a comeback is the reunion of The Family, a band that has no interest at all, apart from some die-hard Prince fans, Jerome is someone who can hold up a mirror and act goofy, so?

To put it in short: The Time is the most overrated band ever to come out of the Minneapolis / Prince camp, and to be honest, without Prince they were and are nothing.


u must have never seen them live
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Reply #7 posted 07/05/07 11:39am

JEDINATION

Prine and Mojo (1985)


MOJO: Do you think that there is a possibility that after this movie has been released, that...I've just heard rumors through the grapevine that there's a possibility that The Time is gonna record again...?

PRINCE: Well, Mojo. anything's possible. God willing and hopefully everybody's head will be in the right place. I'd like to see all that happen. They were, to be perfectly honest, the only band that I was afraid of. And, they were turning into like...Godzilla, and certain things happened and different waves flowed, different winds blew and everybody fell apart. But, I still love all those guys... and I hope they get back together 'cuz I want some competition, ya know? (both laugh)
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Reply #8 posted 07/05/07 11:39am

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mirrorbestfriend said:

Riverpoet31 said:

Bringing a 'sore object' into here, knowing how much The Time is praised by devotees of the Minneapolis sound and people who are sentimental about the Purple Rain years.

But, to be clear, IMO The Time are the most overrated band to come out of the Prince camp. Why?

At first, especially on their first two albums allmost all the music was composed, written, arranged and played by Prince, with Morris on vocals. So why praise "The Time" for those albums?

The ballads released by The Time were toe-curlingy bad. Morris Day can spice up a catchy, cocky funk-riff, but when it comes to ballads he just sounds like a parody of a soul-singer.

The production on some of their songs sounds really cheesy. When you look at some of the older video's of the Time on Youtube, its almost painfull to see how dated they often sound.

Jam and Lewis might have been succesfull with their commercial branche of the Minneapolis sound but they sure didnt ad something substantial or classic to popular music is. Its probably their fault that they influenced some swedish producers, terrorising our charts with the likes of Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys.

No single member of The Time has outgrown himself. Morris day did get into coke and played roles in irritating B-movies, Nobody outside Minneapolis knows who Jesse Johnson is (and it better stays that way), Paul Petersons idea of a comeback is the reunion of The Family, a band that has no interest at all, apart from some die-hard Prince fans, Jerome is someone who can hold up a mirror and act goofy, so?

To put it in short: The Time is the most overrated band ever to come out of the Minneapolis / Prince camp, and to be honest, without Prince they were and are nothing.


u must have nevcer seen them live


EXACTLY !!!
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Reply #9 posted 07/05/07 11:40am

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Yes , rumour was that he wanted them off the tour in 1983 because of their succes
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Reply #10 posted 07/05/07 11:55am

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You must be high: anyone agrees?
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Reply #11 posted 07/05/07 12:11pm

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Posts like this one and the myriad questioning Wendy and Lisa's impact on Prince's music ring to me as though we've got some fans onboard the .Org who have trouble dealing with the fact that Prince may not be completely autonomous.

To those people let me say: I once had the same thought process, the "NO! It's all Prince! Nobody else had anything to do with it!" theory. But I was twelve at the time. Grow up. Its OK to admit that other people in Prince's orbit are talented too. It doesn't detract from Prince's genius at all.
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Reply #12 posted 07/05/07 12:33pm

Sdldawn

Horrid whacked out joke..


thats just one way to describe the time
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Reply #13 posted 07/05/07 12:39pm

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I think most here know exactly what kind and how much talent the Time really have. I think they get props because they are still around and their shows are fun. Morris is still kicking it!

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Reply #14 posted 07/05/07 12:40pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

Bringing a 'sore object' into here, knowing how much The Time is praised by devotees of the Minneapolis sound and people who are sentimental about the Purple Rain years.

But, to be clear, IMO The Time are the most overrated band to come out of the Prince camp. Why?

At first, especially on their first two albums allmost all the music was composed, written, arranged and played by Prince, with Morris on vocals. So why praise "The Time" for those albums?

The ballads released by The Time were toe-curlingy bad. Morris Day can spice up a catchy, cocky funk-riff, but when it comes to ballads he just sounds like a parody of a soul-singer.

The production on some of their songs sounds really cheesy. When you look at some of the older video's of the Time on Youtube, its almost painfull to see how dated they often sound.

Jam and Lewis might have been succesfull with their commercial branche of the Minneapolis sound but they sure didnt ad something substantial or classic to popular music is. Its probably their fault that they influenced some swedish producers, terrorising our charts with the likes of Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys.

No single member of The Time has outgrown himself. Morris day did get into coke and played roles in irritating B-movies, Nobody outside Minneapolis knows who Jesse Johnson is (and it better stays that way), Paul Petersons idea of a comeback is the reunion of The Family, a band that has no interest at all, apart from some die-hard Prince fans, Jerome is someone who can hold up a mirror and act goofy, so?

To put it in short: The Time is the most overrated band ever to come out of the Minneapolis / Prince camp, and to be honest, without Prince they were and are nothing.



I respect your opinion. However, you come off as some sort of troll in the belittling tone of your post. Are you deliberately trying to get folks riled up as a thread troll often does? If the Time doesn't do it for you cool. Going so far as attempting to diminish some of the members accomplishments outside of the group is tacky at best.

Have a swell day.

-K-
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Reply #15 posted 07/05/07 12:43pm

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Genesia said:

You must be high: anyone agrees?


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Reply #16 posted 07/05/07 12:48pm

Riverpoet31

The albums by the Family and Jill Jone are so much greater then anything The Time ever released.

Acting cool, when you dont play any music on your own album, its a simple trick Morris day built a career on.

Of course, the family album was a Prince project....but Prince (om the beats), Eric Leeds (on horns) and Clare Fisher (on orchestra) created moments of brilliance that no cocky, but superficial funk band could ever reach.

And when it comes to the Jill Jones album, it pisses all over the so-called humoristic Time-sound. I mean, acting like a pimp is as a shallow as it is. Like life is about acting toecurlingy 'cool'. Not.....go for dignity, stay yourselve, like Jill does at this record.
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Reply #17 posted 07/05/07 12:52pm

Riverpoet31

I might come over as a 'troll', because The Time seem to have some godlike-status that doesnt do justice what they realy are...

Almost all Time-songs are tracks composed, written, produced, arranged and Performed by Prince.

The Time is a non-entity, The Time = Prince
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Reply #18 posted 07/05/07 12:53pm

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Like i said you should see some DVD's of their performances in the early eighties
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Reply #19 posted 07/05/07 1:01pm

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good God!, they didn't act cool thet were C.O.O.L.!. The original version of the Time were incredible and I am sure with the talent in that band could easily have done great things without P. BUT make no mistake P + the Time really were GODZILLA.
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Reply #20 posted 07/05/07 1:01pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

At first, especially on their first two albums allmost all the music was composed, written, arranged and played by Prince, with Morris on vocals.

Which is precisely why I like them.

Riverpoet31 said:

The ballads released by The Time were toe-curlingy bad.... When it comes to ballads he just sounds like a parody of a soul-singer.

Which is precisely why I like them.

Riverpoet31 said:

The production on some of their songs sounds really cheesy....its almost painfull to see how dated they often sound.

Which is precisely why I like them.
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Reply #21 posted 07/05/07 1:06pm

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hmmm
Overrated? Perhaps.
A crappy band? Hell no.
It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.

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Reply #22 posted 07/05/07 1:10pm

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The Time are excellent performers and live musicians. Yes, in the studio, they benefited from a lot of help, so they are not as good in that respect, i.e.,writing and producing music.

Janet Jackson and Whitney Houston are examples of terrific performers who generally don't write for themselves, and if they do, they don't write by themselves. A huge percentage of the hits from Motown artists were not written by those artists. It's not a new thing for the performers to not be the writers.

If the Time sucked live, maybe I'd agree with overrated. But, until then, I just can't.
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Reply #23 posted 07/05/07 1:14pm

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I would personally like to know just what everyone is talking about when they mention "The Original The Time". Who would you guys be referring to. Are you talking about "Alexander O'Neal" minus "Morris Day"? smile
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Reply #24 posted 07/05/07 1:27pm

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FarrahMoan said:

I would personally like to know just what everyone is talking about when they mention "The Original The Time". Who would you guys be referring to. Are you talking about "Alexander O'Neal" minus "Morris Day"? smile


The Time before Jimmy and Terry left.
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Reply #25 posted 07/05/07 1:30pm

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Genesia said:

FarrahMoan said:

I would personally like to know just what everyone is talking about when they mention "The Original The Time". Who would you guys be referring to. Are you talking about "Alexander O'Neal" minus "Morris Day"? smile


The Time before Jimmy and Terry left.

hrmph Funny, I was also suggesting and entertaining that guess. Thanks for the answer! wink
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Reply #26 posted 07/05/07 1:36pm

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Posting in the right forum is underrated. Anyone agree? biggrin

Seriously, come on over to Associated Artists. The water's fine.
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Reply #27 posted 07/05/07 1:54pm

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RIVERPOET 31:

You never replied this statement:

"u must have never seen them live"

Which leads me to believe that you have not...

yes?

no?
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Reply #28 posted 07/05/07 2:09pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

I might come over as a 'troll', because The Time seem to have some godlike-status that doesnt do justice what they realy are...

Almost all Time-songs are tracks composed, written, produced, arranged and Performed by Prince.

The Time is a non-entity, The Time = Prince

No. You come over as a troll because you sound like you are overreaching to make your case.

Very few people attribute them with god-like status.

Everyone knows that most of their work was Prince.

And people outside of Minneapolis have heard of Jesse Johnson.

But, accepting their shortcomings and recognising that it was Prince who was the original driving force behind their work, people don't overrate them - they simply like what they did.

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Reply #29 posted 07/05/07 2:27pm

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They are alright. I think Prince praises them just a little to much, but I like em.
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