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Reply #120 posted 02/22/18 7:12am

violetcrush

Strawberrylova123 said:

Okay lets focus on susannah's interview and not bathing women wink wink

Good point!

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Reply #121 posted 02/22/18 7:18am

violetcrush

OldFriends4Sale said:

80tomato said:

I seem to remember an interview JJ did in 2016 where she implied P "had " to propose to Susannah ...The way JJ said it implied to me that he had told JJ before hand he was going to propose and had to do it because her Dad was important in the music biz or for some other business reason .But again , what he tokd JJ isn't necessarily the truth nor my interpretation

I looked at that 2 ways.

1. At that point, JJ saying anything about Susannah is corrupt. Intentions are clear. If Prince said that she made it fom her perspective.

2. Maybe if Prince said that to her, he was trying to hint to her, it is over or maybe over etc

By 1985 Prince was much bigger in the music industry than Susannah's Dad. He had an Oscar, and Grammys, and #1 album and movie. He would not have needed him for any type of help in the business. If JJ really did imply that, it is ridiculous. If anything, Susannah's Dad would probably have preferred she NOT marry him based on the "off/on" nature of their relationship, and his womanizing reputation.

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Reply #122 posted 02/22/18 7:21am

80tomato

yes ,it must have been crazy for him to keep what he said to whom and why straight in his mind eekI agree that he was bigger than her dad ...maybe the reason was Wendy and Lisa ...Anyway after lstening to a few JJ interviews I realise she is very emotional

[Edited 2/22/18 7:30am]

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Reply #123 posted 02/22/18 7:29am

violetcrush

80tomato said:

yes ,it must have been crazy for him to keep what he said to whom and why straight in his mind eek

True.....but, if he actually said something of that nature to JJ, and she believed it...well, I would say she was quite naive and gullible. But, they were all very young and inexperienced in relationships, so it is understandable.

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Reply #124 posted 02/22/18 7:36am

OldFriends4Sal
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violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I looked at that 2 ways.

1. At that point, JJ saying anything about Susannah is corrupt. Intentions are clear. If Prince said that she made it fom her perspective.

2. Maybe if Prince said that to her, he was trying to hint to her, it is over or maybe over etc

By 1985 Prince was much bigger in the music industry than Susannah's Dad. He had an Oscar, and Grammys, and #1 album and movie. He would not have needed him for any type of help in the business. If JJ really did imply that, it is ridiculous. If anything, Susannah's Dad would probably have preferred she NOT marry him based on the "off/on" nature of their relationship, and his womanizing reputation.

I wasn't commenting on the Mr Melvoin(RIP) connection.

I was talking about what I know went on behind the scenes with JJ/Anna towards Susannah and the resulting attack on the Revolution shows. Nothing JJ says about Susannah in my opinion is not twisted. I think she has left that all alone now. I still appreciate other parts of her stories/time with Prince especially the 1999 period and listening/reading about the evolution of her 1987 album.

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But Mr Melvoin was still very influential. Yes Prince was newley a superstar. But Mr Melvoin was in the business for a long time. Chair/President of the Recording Academy, worked with legends like Sinatra Lennon the Jackson 5 Natalie Cole Streisand. Headed the NARAS(very influential position with music catagory changes) The Clare Fischer connection came via the Melvoins. Not to mention was interconnected in the Prince camp too. He introduced Prince & the Revolution at the Grammy's IWD4U/Baby I'm A Star performance too.

[Edited 2/22/18 7:38am]

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Reply #125 posted 02/22/18 7:45am

violetcrush

OldFriends4Sale said:

violetcrush said:

By 1985 Prince was much bigger in the music industry than Susannah's Dad. He had an Oscar, and Grammys, and #1 album and movie. He would not have needed him for any type of help in the business. If JJ really did imply that, it is ridiculous. If anything, Susannah's Dad would probably have preferred she NOT marry him based on the "off/on" nature of their relationship, and his womanizing reputation.

I wasn't commenting on the Mr Melvoin(RIP) connection.

I was talking about what I know went on behind the scenes with JJ/Anna towards Susannah and the resulting attack on the Revolution shows. Nothing JJ says about Susannah in my opinion is not twisted. I think she has left that all alone now. I still appreciate other parts of her stories/time with Prince especially the 1999 period and listening/reading about the evolution of her 1987 album.

.

But Mr Melvoin was still very influential. Yes Prince was newley a superstar. But Mr Melvoin was in the business for a long time. Chair/President of the Recording Academy, worked with legends like Sinatra Lennon the Jackson 5 Natalie Cole Streisand. Headed the NARAS(very influential position with music catagory changes) The Clare Fischer connection came via the Melvoins. Not to mention was interconnected in the Prince camp too. He introduced Prince & the Revolution at the Grammy's IWD4U/Baby I'm A Star performance too.

[Edited 2/22/18 7:38am]

Yes, it did seem that some "attacking" was happening with JJ during her interviews.

I know of Mr. Melvoin's history, influence, and connections within the music industry, and that he was the President of NARAS during that time. I just don't think Prince needed any help in that regard. He had everything at his feet. He was saying "jump" and everyone was asking, "how high", so to speak.

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Reply #126 posted 02/22/18 7:54am

Strawberrylova
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JJ has animosity towards susannah because they were in a love triangle...or square πŸ˜‚
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Reply #127 posted 02/22/18 7:57am

OldFriends4Sal
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violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I wasn't commenting on the Mr Melvoin(RIP) connection.

I was talking about what I know went on behind the scenes with JJ/Anna towards Susannah and the resulting attack on the Revolution shows. Nothing JJ says about Susannah in my opinion is not twisted. I think she has left that all alone now. I still appreciate other parts of her stories/time with Prince especially the 1999 period and listening/reading about the evolution of her 1987 album.

.

But Mr Melvoin was still very influential. Yes Prince was newley a superstar. But Mr Melvoin was in the business for a long time. Chair/President of the Recording Academy, worked with legends like Sinatra Lennon the Jackson 5 Natalie Cole Streisand. Headed the NARAS(very influential position with music catagory changes) The Clare Fischer connection came via the Melvoins. Not to mention was interconnected in the Prince camp too. He introduced Prince & the Revolution at the Grammy's IWD4U/Baby I'm A Star performance too.

[Edited 2/22/18 7:38am]

Yes, it did seem that some "attacking" was happening with JJ during her interviews.

I know of Mr. Melvoin's history, influence, and connections within the music industry, and that he was the President of NARAS during that time. I just don't think Prince needed any help in that regard. He had everything at his feet. He was saying "jump" and everyone was asking, "how high", so to speak.

No I don't think Mike Melvoin(RIP) was about that. I don't think he influenced Prince's desire to marry Susannah. But that Clare Fischer hook up was magic.

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Reply #128 posted 02/22/18 8:02am

OldFriends4Sal
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Strawberrylova123 said:

JJ has animosity towards susannah because they were in a love triangle...or square πŸ˜‚

On 2 points I strongly believe I know why...(not mentioned below)

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But on the other hand, JJ has no animosity toward Vanity or Sheila E...or Devin. Or so it seems. That was over 30yrs ago. Come on... they all were married at least once since then.


.I know one thing, because of all Denise Matthews went through to attack her would be pathetic. Even though JJ did go low after Prince at times (like co-signing Sinead OConnor). And it would only be smart to 'speak up' Vanity post February 2016 to the fans.

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Reply #129 posted 02/22/18 8:16am

violetcrush

OldFriends4Sale said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

JJ has animosity towards susannah because they were in a love triangle...or square πŸ˜‚

On 2 points I strongly believe I know why...(not mentioned below)

.
But on the other hand, JJ has no animosity toward Vanity or Sheila E...or Devin. Or so it seems. That was over 30yrs ago. Come on... they all were married at least once since then.


.I know one thing, because of all Denise Matthews went through to attack her would be pathetic. Even though JJ did go low after Prince at times (like co-signing Sinead OConnor). And it would only be smart to 'speak up' Vanity post February 2016 to the fans.

In the JJ interview that I listened to (Prince Podcast, I believe) she stated that she, Vanity, and Susan had become pretty good friends. She said Vanity would help them with their makeup and was very supportive. The jist that I got from her remarks was that it was understood that Vanity was Prince's "main girl" or "girlfriend", but it seems his intimacy with her and others was accepted. Very strange arrangement, but that is what I took from her information. I read a quote from Vanity in which she stated, "I only needed one person to love, but Prince needed more than one". Jill mentioned during that interiew that she, Appollonia, and I think Brenda and Susan had been together at a function more recently (but still several years ago) and she told Prince that she was grateful to him for bringing them together, as they had remained friends through the years. He responded jokingly saying, "oh, so NOW you're okay with it!"

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Reply #130 posted 02/22/18 8:27am

OldFriends4Sal
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violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

On 2 points I strongly believe I know why...(not mentioned below)

.
But on the other hand, JJ has no animosity toward Vanity or Sheila E...or Devin. Or so it seems. That was over 30yrs ago. Come on... they all were married at least once since then.


.I know one thing, because of all Denise Matthews went through to attack her would be pathetic. Even though JJ did go low after Prince at times (like co-signing Sinead OConnor). And it would only be smart to 'speak up' Vanity post February 2016 to the fans.

In the JJ interview that I listened to (Prince Podcast, I believe) she stated that she, Vanity, and Susan had become pretty good friends. She said Vanity would help them with their makeup and was very supportive. The jist that I got from her remarks was that it was understood that Vanity was Prince's "main girl" or "girlfriend", but it seems his intimacy with her and others was accepted. Very strange arrangement, but that is what I took from her information. I read a quote from Vanity in which she stated, "I only needed one person to love, but Prince needed more than one". Jill mentioned during that interiew that she, Appollonia, and I think Brenda and Susan had been together at a function more recently (but still several years ago) and she told Prince that she was grateful to him for bringing them together, as they had remained friends through the years. He responded jokingly saying, "oh, so NOW you're okay with it!"

Yes, but Vanity clearly wasn't happy with it. She wanted Prince faithful to her.

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Yes that was the Denise Matthews memorial. I think that was the first time since 1990 that Prince talked to Jill. lol 'so NOW you're okay with it' so probably she wasn't as ok as she makes it out to be.

.

You really have to dismiss a part of yourself to be a part of a 'polyamorous' situation if it isn't what your really want. But settle for.

.

Vanity took a dig at Jill on her solo album on the song Samuel(I believe that is the correct one)

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I don't know how Sheila E interacted with Jill A6 or if she had any interaction with Vanity(she never talked about it). Sheila E was on stage with Apollonia 6 and Susannah during the Purple Rain and Parade tours. Sheila E and Susannah seemed to have gotten on well into current times. But not really with Cat.

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Reply #131 posted 02/22/18 8:42am

violetcrush

OldFriends4Sale said:

violetcrush said:

In the JJ interview that I listened to (Prince Podcast, I believe) she stated that she, Vanity, and Susan had become pretty good friends. She said Vanity would help them with their makeup and was very supportive. The jist that I got from her remarks was that it was understood that Vanity was Prince's "main girl" or "girlfriend", but it seems his intimacy with her and others was accepted. Very strange arrangement, but that is what I took from her information. I read a quote from Vanity in which she stated, "I only needed one person to love, but Prince needed more than one". Jill mentioned during that interiew that she, Appollonia, and I think Brenda and Susan had been together at a function more recently (but still several years ago) and she told Prince that she was grateful to him for bringing them together, as they had remained friends through the years. He responded jokingly saying, "oh, so NOW you're okay with it!"

Yes, but Vanity clearly wasn't happy with it. She wanted Prince faithful to her.

.

Yes that was the Denise Matthews memorial. I think that was the first time since 1990 that Prince talked to Jill. lol 'so NOW you're okay with it' so probably she wasn't as ok as she makes it out to be.

.

You really have to dismiss a part of yourself to be a part of a 'polyamorous' situation if it isn't what your really want. But settle for.

.

Vanity took a dig at Jill on her solo album on the song Samuel(I believe that is the correct one)

.

I don't know how Sheila E interacted with Jill A6 or if she had any interaction with Vanity(she never talked about it). Sheila E was on stage with Apollonia 6 and Susannah during the Purple Rain and Parade tours. Sheila E and Susannah seemed to have gotten on well into current times. But not really with Cat.

Yes, all of that makes sense. I'm sure Denise was not happy with him starting something with Jill. If Jill is the one who has anymosity toward Susannah regarding Prince, that is interesting, because it appears she came in and disrupted his relationship with Denise. So, isn't that a bit hypocritical on her part?

Yes, Susannah and The Family performed with Sheila at her charity function back in 2005, and they also performed with her at Howard University in 2010, or 2012?. It seems they are on good terms unless a recent conflict occured just prior to or after Prince's passing.

I had read also that Sheila and Cat are not close, and there was friction during their time in Prince's band....but who really knows? Could just be rumor

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Reply #132 posted 02/22/18 8:47am

CatB

violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes, but Vanity clearly wasn't happy with it. She wanted Prince faithful to her.

.

Yes that was the Denise Matthews memorial. I think that was the first time since 1990 that Prince talked to Jill. lol 'so NOW you're okay with it' so probably she wasn't as ok as she makes it out to be.

.

You really have to dismiss a part of yourself to be a part of a 'polyamorous' situation if it isn't what your really want. But settle for.

.

Vanity took a dig at Jill on her solo album on the song Samuel(I believe that is the correct one)

.

I don't know how Sheila E interacted with Jill A6 or if she had any interaction with Vanity(she never talked about it). Sheila E was on stage with Apollonia 6 and Susannah during the Purple Rain and Parade tours. Sheila E and Susannah seemed to have gotten on well into current times. But not really with Cat.

Yes, all of that makes sense. I'm sure Denise was not happy with him starting something with Jill. If Jill is the one who has anymosity toward Susannah regarding Prince, that is interesting, because it appears she came in and disrupted his relationship with Denise. So, isn't that a bit hypocritical on her part?



Feelings don't have to make sense, I guess.



"Time is space spent with U"
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Reply #133 posted 02/22/18 8:51am

CatB

OldFriends4Sale said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

JJ has animosity towards susannah because they were in a love triangle...or square πŸ˜‚

But on the other hand, JJ has no animosity toward Vanity or Sheila E...or Devin. Or so it seems. That was over 30yrs ago. Come on... they all were married at least once since then.





That seems so odd, doesn't it? And one thing I've never understood is why women are always mad at the other women and not the man in question.



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Reply #134 posted 02/22/18 9:01am

OldFriends4Sal
e

violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes, but Vanity clearly wasn't happy with it. She wanted Prince faithful to her.

.

Yes that was the Denise Matthews memorial. I think that was the first time since 1990 that Prince talked to Jill. lol 'so NOW you're okay with it' so probably she wasn't as ok as she makes it out to be.

.

You really have to dismiss a part of yourself to be a part of a 'polyamorous' situation if it isn't what your really want. But settle for.

.

Vanity took a dig at Jill on her solo album on the song Samuel(I believe that is the correct one)

.

I don't know how Sheila E interacted with Jill A6 or if she had any interaction with Vanity(she never talked about it). Sheila E was on stage with Apollonia 6 and Susannah during the Purple Rain and Parade tours. Sheila E and Susannah seemed to have gotten on well into current times. But not really with Cat.

Yes, all of that makes sense. I'm sure Denise was not happy with him starting something with Jill. If Jill is the one who has anymosity toward Susannah regarding Prince, that is interesting, because it appears she came in and disrupted his relationship with Denise. So, isn't that a bit hypocritical on her part?

Yes, Susannah and The Family performed with Sheila at her charity function back in 2005, and they also performed with her at Howard University in 2010, or 2012?. It seems they are on good terms unless a recent conflict occured just prior to or after Prince's passing.

I had read also that Sheila and Cat are not close, and there was friction during their time in Prince's band....but who really knows? Could just be rumor

That is true, Vanity disrupted Susan Moonsies relationship with Prince, Jill disrubpted Vanity's relationship with Prince etc etc lol...Jill told me it was cool with her, because she was like a hippie and the whole 'free love' thing.

.

Yeah St Paul said they all stayed in touch and frequented each others places.

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I believe Sheila was dealing with her insecurities about her relationship with Prince too.

She recognized the problem before and said she distanced herself from it/broke things off with Prince periodically. I think the 'community' was good for her during 1984-1986 but once a lotof people from the Revolution to her band were gone, it was technically just her and Prince. She said she still saw the problem, but being in his band was probably more of a problem for Prince (and her) because it was all right there in their face.

Cat said Sheila would be off and on with her, sometimes mean toward her.

[Edited 2/22/18 9:03am]

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Reply #135 posted 02/22/18 9:06am

violetcrush

CatB said:

violetcrush said:

Yes, all of that makes sense. I'm sure Denise was not happy with him starting something with Jill. If Jill is the one who has anymosity toward Susannah regarding Prince, that is interesting, because it appears she came in and disrupted his relationship with Denise. So, isn't that a bit hypocritical on her part?



Feelings don't have to make sense, I guess.



Maybe the difference was/is Prince's level of feelings for Susannah? Just a guess...who knows, but monogamy aside, he seems to have tried the hardest with Susannah. I don't think he ever stopped loving her -JUST my opinion, based on later songs that I think were about her, BUT I could be wrong. The genius of Prince - honesty with his lyrics, but never, or rarely, divulging the subject. So, we are left speculating. Brilliant.

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Reply #136 posted 02/22/18 9:07am

OldFriends4Sal
e

CatB said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

But on the other hand, JJ has no animosity toward Vanity or Sheila E...or Devin. Or so it seems. That was over 30yrs ago. Come on... they all were married at least once since then.





That seems so odd, doesn't it? And one thing I've never understood is why women are always mad at the other women and not the man in question.



I've seen that over and over and don't get it either.

pheremones are a bitch

I knew a guy that had multiple women, and kids by 4-5 of them.

They kinda came to an agreement for the sake of the kids to help each other.
I never knew of any of them to be nasty towards the others kids.
But I think it was his mother who pooled them together to support each other.

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Reply #137 posted 02/22/18 9:16am

CatB

violetcrush said:

CatB said:



Feelings don't have to make sense, I guess.



Maybe the difference was/is Prince's level of feelings for Susannah? Just a guess...who knows, but monogamy aside, he seems to have tried the hardest with Susannah. I don't think he ever stopped loving her -JUST my opinion, based on later songs that I think were about her, BUT I could be wrong. The genius of Prince - honesty with his lyrics, but never, or rarely, divulging the subject. So, we are left speculating. Brilliant.



Yeah. From what I can tell he was at his best in those times with her, musically. And I think unlike most of the others who were groomed and educated by him, Susannah broadened his horizon.


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Reply #138 posted 02/22/18 9:19am

violetcrush

OldFriends4Sale said:

violetcrush said:

Yes, all of that makes sense. I'm sure Denise was not happy with him starting something with Jill. If Jill is the one who has anymosity toward Susannah regarding Prince, that is interesting, because it appears she came in and disrupted his relationship with Denise. So, isn't that a bit hypocritical on her part?

Yes, Susannah and The Family performed with Sheila at her charity function back in 2005, and they also performed with her at Howard University in 2010, or 2012?. It seems they are on good terms unless a recent conflict occured just prior to or after Prince's passing.

I had read also that Sheila and Cat are not close, and there was friction during their time in Prince's band....but who really knows? Could just be rumor

That is true, Vanity disrupted Susan Moonsies relationship with Prince, Jill disrubpted Vanity's relationship with Prince etc etc lol...Jill told me it was cool with her, because she was like a hippie and the whole 'free love' thing.

.

Yeah St Paul said they all stayed in touch and frequented each others places.

maxresdefault.jpg

I believe Sheila was dealing with her insecurities about her relationship with Prince too.

She recognized the problem before and said she distanced herself from it/broke things off with Prince periodically. I think the 'community' was good for her during 1984-1986 but once a lotof people from the Revolution to her band were gone, it was technically just her and Prince. She said she still saw the problem, but being in his band was probably more of a problem for Prince (and her) because it was all right there in their face.

Cat said Sheila would be off and on with her, sometimes mean toward her.

[Edited 2/22/18 9:03am]

Amazing all of the juggling Prince did during those years. Especially, the logistics of (allegedly) starting something with Sheila at that time. Susannah joined the band as well in late '85-86. How does that work? How do you maneuver that situation? And if Prince and Sheila got together during the SOTT tour, she'd have to listen to Prince singing all of the songs he had just written for Susannah. Craziness.

Sheila stated in an interview that Prince was dating other women during Lovesexy - I believe Anna Garcia was in the mix. She said the best part of being on tour with a band is "the hang" - when everyone just chills out together after the show. She said the good hang out ended during the Lovesexy tour, so she left when that was done.

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Reply #139 posted 02/22/18 9:29am

violetcrush

CatB said:

violetcrush said:

Maybe the difference was/is Prince's level of feelings for Susannah? Just a guess...who knows, but monogamy aside, he seems to have tried the hardest with Susannah. I don't think he ever stopped loving her -JUST my opinion, based on later songs that I think were about her, BUT I could be wrong. The genius of Prince - honesty with his lyrics, but never, or rarely, divulging the subject. So, we are left speculating. Brilliant.



Yeah. From what I can tell he was at his best in those times with her, musically. And I think unlike most of the others who were groomed and educated by him, Susannah broadened his horizon.


Agreed! He respected her, and knew she was on a deeper intellectual level. She came from a different world. Same with Wendy and Lisa. And as Susannah mentioned, he could be himself with her - no facade or contrived behavior needed. And they are all witty and smart, which appealled to him as well.

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Reply #140 posted 02/22/18 10:25am

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Reply #141 posted 02/22/18 10:27am

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CatB said:



laurarichardson said:


violetcrush said:



Purplerabbithole - even though Prince wanted both physical and friendship with Susannah, I do think you are correct regarding the fact that many of his relationships with other women were not sexual. Per Toure's book, he also liked to bathe women, without sex involved. A fetish, I guess?



He liked looking at naked women since when is that a fetish for men. According to Devin he spent a lot of time having sex with her.




Because that's probably all she had to offer...

The bathing would also happen in the dark, so it was not a simple "He liked to look at naked women".





Interesting! Oh, that Prince. He really did love women. I think he was beyond curious. wink biggrin
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Reply #142 posted 02/22/18 3:35pm

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anangellooksdown said:

CatB said:




Because that's probably all she had to offer...

The bathing would also happen in the dark, so it was not a simple "He liked to look at naked women".



Interesting! Oh, that Prince. He really did love women. I think he was beyond curious. wink biggrin

cool down my friend lol

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Reply #143 posted 02/22/18 5:23pm

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Listened to it. She made a convincing case that P was on the autism spectrum. I am starting to think that his parents didn't know how to take care of an autistic kid so when he decided to move out, and they just let him do so. Remember when he stated in that old interview that his stepfather didn't know what Prince needed (presumably emotionally) and just threw money at him. I don't think there was trauma..I think there were parents who took a hardline approach against a kid who needed some accomodations. I would have made sure my kid (if he had such obsessive musical aspirations) was performing in my basement. If he felt abandoned (even though he was the one moving out), I think I understand why. Its funny ebcause she stated that P chose to leave but she also said he felt "safe" at Andre's. I suspect he felt alone at his home and adrift.

I thought the interview was moving and quite decent. I sometimes wish they would remind us what made P such a genius other than the long hours and output...specific musical terms and characteristics. Becuase it can feel like the vagueness and empty platitudes about his music imply that he was more of a hard working figurehead than a musician with his own unique skills.

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Reply #144 posted 02/22/18 5:39pm

violetcrush

purplerabbithole said:

Listened to it. She made a convincing case that P was on the autism spectrum. I am starting to think that his parents didn't know how to take care of an autistic kid so when he decided to move out, and they just let him do so. Remember when he stated in that old interview that his stepfather didn't know what Prince needed (presumably emotionally) and just threw money at him. I don't think there was trauma..I think there were parents who took a hardline approach against a kid who needed some accomodations. I would have made sure my kid (if he had such obsessive musical aspirations) was performing in my basement. If he felt abandoned (even though he was the one moving out), I think I understand why. Its funny ebcause she stated that P chose to leave but she also said he felt "safe" at Andre's. I suspect he felt alone at his home and adrift.

I thought the interview was moving and quite decent. I sometimes wish they would remind us what made P such a genius other than the long hours and output...specific musical terms and characteristics. Becuase it can feel like the vagueness and empty platitudes about his music imply that he was more of a hard working figurehead than a musician with his own unique skills.

I read that Prince once said that he felt he and his Sister were "mistakes". His parents were considerably older compared to most at that time. His Father had much older children from a previous marriage. Seems as though his Father did not have the patience for them, or interest in being an involved Father, and his Mother was working full time. Sounds like he may have been on the spectrum from a social perspective. He was extremely uncomfortable in social settings. In one of his first major interviews in '79 with Jon Bream - MN journalist, he talks about this quite a bit. He discusses being uncomfortable performing in front of others, and also getting used to working with a band, and not just by himself.

Have you listened to the extensive interview with Susan Rogers on Prince Podcast? Really great interview specifically about the music and his creative process. She is smart, articulate, and a great story teller as well.

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Reply #145 posted 02/22/18 5:44pm

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Jill jones told me that she thinks that prince was on the autistic spectrum also
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Reply #146 posted 02/22/18 6:53pm

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anangellooksdown said:


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Because that's probably all she had to offer...

The bathing would also happen in the dark, so it was not a simple "He liked to look at naked women".





Interesting! Oh, that Prince. He really did love women. I think he was beyond curious. wink biggrin


cool down my friend lol



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That’s about it!



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Reply #147 posted 02/22/18 7:01pm

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In the JJ interview that I listened to (Prince Podcast, I believe) she stated that she, Vanity, and Susan had become pretty good friends. She said Vanity would help them with their makeup and was very supportive. The jist that I got from her remarks was that it was understood that Vanity was Prince's "main girl" or "girlfriend", but it seems his intimacy with her and others was accepted. Very strange arrangement, but that is what I took from her information. I read a quote from Vanity in which she stated, "I only needed one person to love, but Prince needed more than one". Jill mentioned during that interiew that she, Appollonia, and I think Brenda and Susan had been together at a function more recently (but still several years ago) and she told Prince that she was grateful to him for bringing them together, as they had remained friends through the years. He responded jokingly saying, "oh, so NOW you're okay with it!"

I thought I read where that was at Vanity's funeral.

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Reply #148 posted 02/22/18 7:10pm

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JJ has animosity towards susannah because they were in a love triangle...or square πŸ˜‚

Sounds like you actually spoke to her, so you must know more than most, but I was thinking her ill will may also have been related to the fact that her album was put on the back burner. I read that recording started in '83, but it wasn't released until '87. Seems as though it was moved down the priority list once The Family and Sheila E projects were started. In an online interview in 2013 she stated she had not been aware that Sheila was recording for an album, and that Prince could have given her Glamorous Life and some of those songs for her record. I probably would have been a bit mad as well. She stated she wasted 10 years of her life. There was a comment from a user named "FIRE AND ICE" - almost seemed like a response from Prince - very intense response and cryptic. I'm sure it wasn't, but you never know....he was online all the time tracking everything smile

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Reply #149 posted 02/22/18 7:13pm

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Strawberrylova123 said:

JJ has animosity towards susannah because they were in a love triangle...or square πŸ˜‚

Sounds like you actually spoke to her, so you must know more than most, but I was thinking her ill will may also have been related to the fact that her album was put on the back burner. I read that recording started in '83, but it wasn't released until '87. Seems as though it was moved down the priority list once The Family and Sheila E projects were started. In an online interview in 2013 she stated she had not been aware that Sheila was recording for an album, and that Prince could have given her Glamorous Life and some of those songs for her record. I probably would have been a bit mad as well. She stated she wasted 10 years of her life. There was a comment from a user named "FIRE AND ICE" - almost seemed like a response from Prince - very intense response and cryptic. I'm sure it wasn't, but you never know....he was online all the time tracking everything smile

What did Fire & Ice say?

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