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Thread started 07/23/06 1:40am

Dan

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NPGMC tracks on an IPOD?

Can u play NPGMC tracks on an ipod?
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Reply #1 posted 07/23/06 8:15am

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No . They are protected.
You have to burn a CD first using Windows Media Player and then extract the CD tracks into iTunes
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Reply #2 posted 07/25/06 7:28pm

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Pandurito is right -- burn your tracks to a CD first using WMP, then re-import the tracks using iTunes as mp3s or aac files to transfer them to your iPod.
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Reply #3 posted 07/27/06 4:10am

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Just remember that you are advising people to break a Federal Copyright law when you do perform that action.

Disabling any technical device or circumvention of copy prevention systems (ie the WMA DRM) to copy a protected work for any reason is against the law in the USA.

And before some one comes to say that the NPGMC gave you the right to in some cryptic post by the PPs - sorry, that won't fly. Not only did they pull all those posts down once they realized their error, but stripping the DRM from a WMA file also abrogates the EULA from microsoft and infringes their rights.

I don't care what anyone does cuz the whole DRM thing is BS anyway, but I thought you and the Mods on this site ought to know. wink


NB: There is hope that this will be changed or an interpretation of Sec 17:1 §117 allowing for back-ups in case of repair or maintenance will be expanded to cover backed up audio/video files but RIGHT NOW - it's still illegal.
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Reply #4 posted 07/27/06 9:42am

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rhomea said:

Just remember that you are advising people to break a Federal Copyright law when you do perform that action.

Disabling any technical device or circumvention of copy prevention systems (ie the WMA DRM) to copy a protected work for any reason is against the law in the USA.

And before some one comes to say that the NPGMC gave you the right to in some cryptic post by the PPs - sorry, that won't fly. Not only did they pull all those posts down once they realized their error, but stripping the DRM from a WMA file also abrogates the EULA from microsoft and infringes their rights.

I don't care what anyone does cuz the whole DRM thing is BS anyway, but I thought you and the Mods on this site ought to know. wink


NB: There is hope that this will be changed or an interpretation of Sec 17:1 §117 allowing for back-ups in case of repair or maintenance will be expanded to cover backed up audio/video files but RIGHT NOW - it's still illegal.




All true. But, for the love of all that's good and holy, if you bought a song legally and want to listen to it for private use only on your iPod and aren't sharing copyrighted material on file sharing networks, I wouldn't give it a second thought. No more so than duping a CD so you can listen to a CD-R in your car and keep the original at home, out of the heat and away from prying hands.

But I know what you're saying, rhomea.
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Reply #5 posted 07/27/06 10:05am

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rhomea said:

Just remember that you are advising people to break a Federal Copyright law when you do perform that action.

Disabling any technical device or circumvention of copy prevention systems (ie the WMA DRM) to copy a protected work for any reason is against the law in the USA.

And before some one comes to say that the NPGMC gave you the right to in some cryptic post by the PPs - sorry, that won't fly. Not only did they pull all those posts down once they realized their error, but stripping the DRM from a WMA file also abrogates the EULA from microsoft and infringes their rights.

I don't care what anyone does cuz the whole DRM thing is BS anyway, but I thought you and the Mods on this site ought to know. wink


NB: There is hope that this will be changed or an interpretation of Sec 17:1 §117 allowing for back-ups in case of repair or maintenance will be expanded to cover backed up audio/video files but RIGHT NOW - it's still illegal.


they pulled those threads? They were up all the time and I don't remember them all getting deleted. I am pretty sure that the PP's had said you could "burn them to disc"...while they may not have specifically said that you are burning them to rip the license out, most people know effectively that is what it does. So, does this mean someone doesn't have the right to backup their purchased material onto a CD? Seroiusly....I would think you have that legal right, and if the software happens to "strip the license", that isn't your fault, that is the fault of the maker of the software and the maker of the DRM license, right?
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Reply #6 posted 07/29/06 7:06am

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Can u play NPGMC tracks on an ipod?


yes u can, albiet it's a tedious process. PM me for details
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Reply #7 posted 08/08/06 3:48am

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txladykat said:

rhomea said:

Just remember that you are advising people to break a Federal Copyright law when you do perform that action.

Disabling any technical device or circumvention of copy prevention systems (ie the WMA DRM) to copy a protected work for any reason is against the law in the USA.

And before some one comes to say that the NPGMC gave you the right to in some cryptic post by the PPs - sorry, that won't fly. Not only did they pull all those posts down once they realized their error, but stripping the DRM from a WMA file also abrogates the EULA from microsoft and infringes their rights.

I don't care what anyone does cuz the whole DRM thing is BS anyway, but I thought you and the Mods on this site ought to know. wink


NB: There is hope that this will be changed or an interpretation of Sec 17:1 §117 allowing for back-ups in case of repair or maintenance will be expanded to cover backed up audio/video files but RIGHT NOW - it's still illegal.


they pulled those threads? They were up all the time and I don't remember them all getting deleted. I am pretty sure that the PP's had said you could "burn them to disc"...while they may not have specifically said that you are burning them to rip the license out, most people know effectively that is what it does. So, does this mean someone doesn't have the right to backup their purchased material onto a CD? Seroiusly....I would think you have that legal right, and if the software happens to "strip the license", that isn't your fault, that is the fault of the maker of the software and the maker of the DRM license, right?

yes they did darlin... specific posts were deleted and snipped.
as you know, it was an issue for me and others personally and professionally so we monitored all of them. Some people even have copies wink

you may be operating under a misconception. Copying a DRM protected file does not necessarily strip the DRM. It can be burned along with the content on the CD in some formats.

Legally speaking, stripping the DRM occurs when - in what ever way you do it (NPGMC recommended "HiJack", Hymn, etc etc) - you convert the WMA file to an MP3 file with out the original copy protection so it can play on iTunes ("ripping" very appropriate). that's the no no no!

So yes, everyone has the legal right to back it up to a CD or a DVD. It is when you strip the copy protection on copyrighted material that you have broken the DMCA (and most likely the EULA you agreed to when you installed the s/w wink )

lastly, even tho the s/w makers are liable as well
(ref: the recent Kazaa settlement and Limewire lawsuit from the RIAA):
the "software made me do it" defense has generally been shown to be unsuccessful in courts to date - lawsuits and convictions have been made based on use of Napster, Kazaa, etc even when the user claimed to not know what it did or about the illegality of the result wink

p.s.

THE EFF has a great primer on this complete absurdity known laughingly as DRM "protection" rolleyes

www.eff.org/IP/DRM/
(and tracks all sorts of other intrusions on your rights to do whatever the fuck you want to do with digital things you have paid for as long as you aren't hurting anyone else
or the right to not be probed, tracked or investigated by the government without cause, warrant or notification)
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Reply #8 posted 08/09/06 8:23am

txladykat

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COOL. learn something new every day wink
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Reply #9 posted 08/18/06 5:15pm

rhomea

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txladykat said:

COOL. learn something new every day wink

I was thinkin of you when we watched a DVD the other nite...

Read the FBI warning about infringement by making ANY copy - up to 5 years/$250K "whether for financial gain or personal use" or something to that effect... eek

welcome to the Fourth Reich.
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Reply #10 posted 08/18/06 7:25pm

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aint that special....see, i have a way of sticking in people's minds..and it aint cause i am republican either lol wink
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