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Reply #120 posted 09/07/16 10:55am

PliablyPurple

Thanks for the reports smile. Was on the fence about even paying attention to this, but the few clips I have seen have been really moving. Would I rather listen to Prince sing Sometimes It Snows in April? Of course, but here we are and I can't believe how much watching Wendy and Lisa do that song moved me. Sounds like a special three nights.

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Reply #121 posted 09/07/16 12:29pm

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

Thought I would post this here, too, though I'd love to talk about these outtakes on the Prince Music and More forum, as this one tends to be forgotten.

Here's the preshow set list from the Sept 3 show (order isn't exact):

The Bird Rehearsal (Prince) - Not sure if we have this. Prince trying out The Bird at rehearsal. Seemed to be making up words on the spot.
High Fashion (Prince) - Prince's version KILLS. Please Lord let a Prince version of The Family record come out!!!
Feel U Up (Prince) - Early version but different than the early version we already have. Funky as hell.
Irresistable Bitch (Prince) - Early version we have.
I Don't Wanna Leave You (The Time) - Album version.
I Would Die 4 U (Prince) - Extra long extended version.
Instrumental (Prince) - Uptempo, sounded very 1987, with Eric Leeds and Atlanta Bliss, slightly like It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night.

Miss Understood (The Family Outtake) - Lost classic if you ask me.
Lady Cab Driver (Prince) - Live version.
If I Could Get Your Attention (Jill Jones version)

The Time Outtake - Didn't recognize this at all, from any of the albums, including Corporate World. Sounded like it could have been Ice Cream Castles era or later.

The Bird (The Time) - Either a demo, or studio version with Morris on vocals.
Love 89 (Patti Labelle version)

Jealous Girl (Not Prince's version) - A female lead but I can't remember who. Maybe Vanity?
Unidentified Female Protege Song - Maybe another Vanity 6 outtake? Possibly Jill Jones? Never heard it before.
My Man (Jill Jones)

The Flesh Song - Not familiar enough with all of The Flesh songs to remember which one. Not Junk Music though, which I listen to regularly.
I Would Die 4 U (Prince) - Fantastic early version that has rock guitar pulses instead of the synth pulses. Completely changes the feel of the song. Amazing!
Around The World In A Day (Prince) - This might be the early version we have with the funkier bass line. Havent listened to it in awhile.
Irresistable Bitch (Prince) - Studio version.

Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden (Jill Jones/Prince) - This was peculiar. Our Destiny was almost exactly like the demo with Lisa, including The Ladder strings at the beginning, and also more strings throughout the song, but it was Jill on vocals. The "Rita Hayworth never treat you like this," line was changed to a different name, but I couldn't make it out. Then, it segued right into Roadhouse Garden with Prince on vocals. LOVED the studio version of Roadhouse. This MUST be released. Incredible.

Love And Sex (Prince) - 1984 version. That classic '84 Revolution groove you could listen to all day. Think America with a funky synth line, and an even more urgent vocal. Like "Now Jimmy lives on a mushroom cloud," kind of urgent. HOT!
Kiss Me Quick (Prince) - The version we have.

Make Yo Mama Happy (Prince) - Crystal Ball version we have.

Strange Way (Prince) - I had never heard the entire version of this until now. Absolutely fantastic song.
Purple Music (Prince) - Hearing a pristine version of this over the First Ave sound system completely gave it new life for me. Undeniable classic.
Happy Birthday Mr. Christian (Apollonia 6) - Album version.

Splash (Prince) - The NPGMC version we have.
Another Flesh Song - Didn't know which one this was.

Revolution Rehearsal - Couldn't remember the song. He called out for the band to hit him 25 times, two separate times, and then again 63 times! Awesome.

Modernaire (The Modernaires) - Purple Rain version. Kind of cool to hear this at First Ave. Looking around at the club while it was playing kind of felt like being in the movie.

Possessed (Prince) - Studio version in pristine quality. My God, we need a "new" Revolution album. So much gold from that era.

Reunited (Prince) - Hot uptempo track from 88-89. Eric and Atlanta horn stabs, spare drum machine beat, funky bass slapping. It kind of reminded me of Your Love Is So Hard, but it sounded like it was recorded before that one. The verses were sung in his lower register, in sort of the same style as High Fashion. Good God, if the estate gets it together, we're going to have classic Prince material for the rest of our time on this planet. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND!

Rock This Mutha (Prince) - Definitely '88 era, mostly instrumental, with Eric and Atlanta. There was a phrase that popped up throughout that included the words "Rock this mutha," and "Ain't no otha." Couldn't make out the whole phrase though. The tempo kind of reminded me of The Future, but way more funky. Possibly the funkiest thing I've heard from the Lovesexy band.

Sister (Prince) - Acoustic demo! Absolutely loved it. Just Prince and an acoustic guitar.

Starfish And Coffee (Prince) - 1996 Muppets version but longer than what we have. There were parts that I had never heard before, including a longer outro that got the crowd singing along.

Girls And Boys (Not Prince) - This was a slower kind of calypso version, that sounded like it was performed by the 93-95 era NPG. Think Ripopgodazippa, with the B3 organ and such, but sung as a duet between an male and female voice. I have no idea who was singing. Interesting. Maybe it was Sonny and Nona? Who knows?

Train (Prince) - The Dream Factory version. Oddly, the quality was a little muddy which made me think Quest doesn't have FULL access to the Vault just yet. biggrin

I Wonder (Prince) - The version we have already.


I thought "Love Sign" by Morris Day was played early on--like soon after "I Don't Wanna Leave You". But it would have been the only non-Prince song in the entire set so maybe I'm wrong.

[Edited 9/7/16 12:32pm]

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Reply #122 posted 09/07/16 2:59pm

OldFriends4Sal
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Bobby Z Karen Krattinger & Brown Mark
Tony Christian(Mazarati) was there too
David Z
Hucky Austin
Susan Rogers
Maybe we should list everyone from the camp that was there...

[Edited 9/7/16 15:03pm]

[Edited 9/7/16 15:04pm]

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Reply #123 posted 09/07/16 3:02pm

OldFriends4Sal
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Reply #124 posted 09/09/16 9:48am

GhostChick

jdcxc said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

If it is true Andre didn't listen 2 a lot of Prince albums after he left, that may be one reason why Andre couldn't lead. A short time to learn lead for all those songs

Who believes this? Of course he listened to P's albums.

No he probably listened to Prince's hits off those albums but never listened to the actual albums.

For example, growing up, I had always heard Soft and Wet, Feel for You and Controversy. It wasn't till I was around maybe 10 or 12 years old when I heard Controversy in full. It happens.

Same with

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Reply #125 posted 09/09/16 11:03am

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sexton said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Thought I would post this here, too, though I'd love to talk about these outtakes on the Prince Music and More forum, as this one tends to be forgotten.

Here's the preshow set list from the Sept 3 show (order isn't exact):

The Bird Rehearsal (Prince) - Not sure if we have this. Prince trying out The Bird at rehearsal. Seemed to be making up words on the spot.
High Fashion (Prince) - Prince's version KILLS. Please Lord let a Prince version of The Family record come out!!!
Feel U Up (Prince) - Early version but different than the early version we already have. Funky as hell.
Irresistable Bitch (Prince) - Early version we have.
I Don't Wanna Leave You (The Time) - Album version.
I Would Die 4 U (Prince) - Extra long extended version.
Instrumental (Prince) - Uptempo, sounded very 1987, with Eric Leeds and Atlanta Bliss, slightly like It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night.

Miss Understood (The Family Outtake) - Lost classic if you ask me.
Lady Cab Driver (Prince) - Live version.
If I Could Get Your Attention (Jill Jones version)

The Time Outtake - Didn't recognize this at all, from any of the albums, including Corporate World. Sounded like it could have been Ice Cream Castles era or later.

The Bird (The Time) - Either a demo, or studio version with Morris on vocals.
Love 89 (Patti Labelle version)

Jealous Girl (Not Prince's version) - A female lead but I can't remember who. Maybe Vanity?
Unidentified Female Protege Song - Maybe another Vanity 6 outtake? Possibly Jill Jones? Never heard it before.
My Man (Jill Jones)

The Flesh Song - Not familiar enough with all of The Flesh songs to remember which one. Not Junk Music though, which I listen to regularly.
I Would Die 4 U (Prince) - Fantastic early version that has rock guitar pulses instead of the synth pulses. Completely changes the feel of the song. Amazing!
Around The World In A Day (Prince) - This might be the early version we have with the funkier bass line. Havent listened to it in awhile.
Irresistable Bitch (Prince) - Studio version.

Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden (Jill Jones/Prince) - This was peculiar. Our Destiny was almost exactly like the demo with Lisa, including The Ladder strings at the beginning, and also more strings throughout the song, but it was Jill on vocals. The "Rita Hayworth never treat you like this," line was changed to a different name, but I couldn't make it out. Then, it segued right into Roadhouse Garden with Prince on vocals. LOVED the studio version of Roadhouse. This MUST be released. Incredible.

Love And Sex (Prince) - 1984 version. That classic '84 Revolution groove you could listen to all day. Think America with a funky synth line, and an even more urgent vocal. Like "Now Jimmy lives on a mushroom cloud," kind of urgent. HOT!
Kiss Me Quick (Prince) - The version we have.

Make Yo Mama Happy (Prince) - Crystal Ball version we have.

Strange Way (Prince) - I had never heard the entire version of this until now. Absolutely fantastic song.
Purple Music (Prince) - Hearing a pristine version of this over the First Ave sound system completely gave it new life for me. Undeniable classic.
Happy Birthday Mr. Christian (Apollonia 6) - Album version.

Splash (Prince) - The NPGMC version we have.
Another Flesh Song - Didn't know which one this was.

Revolution Rehearsal - Couldn't remember the song. He called out for the band to hit him 25 times, two separate times, and then again 63 times! Awesome.

Modernaire (The Modernaires) - Purple Rain version. Kind of cool to hear this at First Ave. Looking around at the club while it was playing kind of felt like being in the movie.

Possessed (Prince) - Studio version in pristine quality. My God, we need a "new" Revolution album. So much gold from that era.

Reunited (Prince) - Hot uptempo track from 88-89. Eric and Atlanta horn stabs, spare drum machine beat, funky bass slapping. It kind of reminded me of Your Love Is So Hard, but it sounded like it was recorded before that one. The verses were sung in his lower register, in sort of the same style as High Fashion. Good God, if the estate gets it together, we're going to have classic Prince material for the rest of our time on this planet. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND!

Rock This Mutha (Prince) - Definitely '88 era, mostly instrumental, with Eric and Atlanta. There was a phrase that popped up throughout that included the words "Rock this mutha," and "Ain't no otha." Couldn't make out the whole phrase though. The tempo kind of reminded me of The Future, but way more funky. Possibly the funkiest thing I've heard from the Lovesexy band.

Sister (Prince) - Acoustic demo! Absolutely loved it. Just Prince and an acoustic guitar.

Starfish And Coffee (Prince) - 1996 Muppets version but longer than what we have. There were parts that I had never heard before, including a longer outro that got the crowd singing along.

Girls And Boys (Not Prince) - This was a slower kind of calypso version, that sounded like it was performed by the 93-95 era NPG. Think Ripopgodazippa, with the B3 organ and such, but sung as a duet between an male and female voice. I have no idea who was singing. Interesting. Maybe it was Sonny and Nona? Who knows?

Train (Prince) - The Dream Factory version. Oddly, the quality was a little muddy which made me think Quest doesn't have FULL access to the Vault just yet. biggrin

I Wonder (Prince) - The version we have already.


I thought "Love Sign" by Morris Day was played early on--like soon after "I Don't Wanna Leave You". But it would have been the only non-Prince song in the entire set so maybe I'm wrong.

[Edited 9/7/16 12:32pm]


I think so...

Also, wasn't this the night of the acoustic version of Sister? That was crazy!

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Reply #126 posted 09/09/16 12:48pm

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CarrieMpls said:

sexton said:


I thought "Love Sign" by Morris Day was played early on--like soon after "I Don't Wanna Leave You". But it would have been the only non-Prince song in the entire set so maybe I'm wrong.

[Edited 9/7/16 12:32pm]


I think so...

Also, wasn't this the night of the acoustic version of Sister? That was crazy!


Acoustic "Sister" was great! And it's on the list, just not bolded. I missed it the first time.

Questlove's DJ sets got its own thread so all the question marks are being worked out there: http://prince.org/msg/12/431839

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Reply #127 posted 09/11/16 8:11am

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Some corrections...

The Time Outtake Love Sign (Morris Day) - I don't know his solo material. Thought it was a Time outtake originally.

Reunited Feline (Prince) - After hearing better quality audio than what I recorded, and also checking out a studio rehearsal of this, I'm 99% positive that it's Prince's studio version of Feline written for The Family. The drum beat threw me off as far as the timeline, because it's not the Linn sound at all. Maybe this was recorded later? Hot uptempo track from 88-89. Eric and Atlanta horn stabs, spare drum machine beat, funky bass slapping. It kind of reminded me of Your Love Is So Hard, but it sounded like it was recorded before that one. The verses were sung in his lower register, in sort of the same style as High Fashion. Good God, if the estate gets it together, we're going to have classic Prince material for the rest of our time on this planet. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND!

Rock This Mutha 13 (Paisley Park Mix)(Madhouse) - I can't believe this has been in my collection all this time and I'd never heard it before! Definitely '88 era, mostly instrumental, with Eric and Atlanta. There was a phrase that popped up throughout that included the words "Rock this mutha," and "Ain't no otha." Couldn't make out the whole phrase though. The tempo kind of reminded me of The Future, but way more funky. Possibly the funkiest thing I've heard from the Lovesexy band.

Sister (Prince) - Acoustic demo! Absolutely loved it. Just Prince and an acoustic guitar.

Girls And Boys (The Dynamics) - Definitely The Dynamics version as pointed out above.

[Edited 9/11/16 8:14am]

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #128 posted 09/15/16 10:40am

justAmeda

purplethunder3121 said:

laurarichardson said:

machinegun Don't bring a brick to a gun fight. Sweet cakes.

Image result for morris day such nastiness

lol falloff that Morris reaction pic just totally cracks me up!I can hear his way of saying it too! biggrin

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Reply #129 posted 09/17/16 10:30am

E319

My apologies if this has already been posted but can someone please tell me who is the guitarist that appeared with The Revolution? You can see him in the clip below around the 6:20 mark...

https://youtu.be/-7biVmKewSA

I've seen several video clips from The Revolution concerts that weekend and that does not appear to be Dez Dickerson as far as I can tell... Maybe I'm wrong. Can anyone identify who that guitarist is please? Thanks.

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Reply #130 posted 09/18/16 9:22am

justAmeda

E319 said:

My apologies if this has already been posted but can someone please tell me who is the guitarist that appeared with The Revolution? You can see him in the clip below around the 6:20 mark...

https://youtu.be/-7biVmKewSA

I've seen several video clips from The Revolution concerts that weekend and that does not appear to be Dez Dickerson as far as I can tell... Maybe I'm wrong. Can anyone identify who that guitarist is please? Thanks.

[Edited 9/17/16 10:35am]

eek I slowed it down in slow motion and I'm not even sure who that is. It's not Dez because the facial features are not like is. I see BrownMark off to the side holding down the base but I don't know what Andre looks like without sunglasses if it's aint Andre then I'm not sure he is becasue he comes out just for that kneeling scene and then goes back behind the amplifier and off stage.

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Reply #131 posted 09/18/16 11:01am

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justAmeda said:

E319 said:

My apologies if this has already been posted but can someone please tell me who is the guitarist that appeared with The Revolution? You can see him in the clip below around the 6:20 mark...

https://youtu.be/-7biVmKewSA

I've seen several video clips from The Revolution concerts that weekend and that does not appear to be Dez Dickerson as far as I can tell... Maybe I'm wrong. Can anyone identify who that guitarist is please? Thanks.

[Edited 9/17/16 10:35am]

eek I slowed it down in slow motion and I'm not even sure who that is. It's not Dez because the facial features are not like is. I see BrownMark off to the side holding down the base but I don't know what Andre looks like without sunglasses if it's aint Andre then I'm not sure he is becasue he comes out just for that kneeling scene and then goes back behind the amplifier and off stage.

Wendy said his name but I forgot it. She also thanked him for, "Saving my ass."

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #132 posted 09/19/16 12:56pm

E319

I asked the question in the "Associated Artists" section and they answered it for me.

His name is John Wesley Payne. A quick google search pulls up lots of youtube videos. Very talented guy. Apparently they brought him in to help out The Revolution I guess. But yeah, it's definitely not Dez.

You can see John Wesley Payne more clearly in this video, standing next to Dez at the 1:20 mark: https://youtu.be/UNqUMiABvjE

Thanks to everyone who replied!

[Edited 9/19/16 12:56pm]

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