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Reply #180 posted 02/16/14 10:25am

DaveT

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tembatom said:

purplewisdom said:

hi, the security guy mentioned it, maybe i was to quick with that info, could be bull.

my bad if its false.

Is there confirmationn from the queue that it's 70 knicker?

Knowing Prince, it'll actually be 70 knickers! biggrin

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Reply #181 posted 02/16/14 10:41am

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Its 70.
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Reply #182 posted 02/16/14 10:57am

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The only thing is, hes made a rod for his back with the 10 pound tickets thing in the beginning now. I hope he puts in a solid show for all three tonight otherwise there could be a backlase.

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Reply #183 posted 02/16/14 11:03am

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Yeah, but he didn't say how many shows would only be £10.00 and I think he has given us a good run at that price point. He has a huge entourage (prob. 30 to 40 people excluding local technical staff), who have daily hotel and expenses costs whether he plays a gig or not and whilst the guy is rich, I think it is reasonable he at least covers the tour overheads with the ticket price.

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Reply #184 posted 02/16/14 11:13am

indigomoonbeam

Is the queue for the 2nd show thinning out now ppl know it is £70?

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Reply #185 posted 02/16/14 11:13am

antonb

I think that 70 quid is not a bad price for seeing Prince in a small renue. When they said he was going to do some shows in the uk i thought is was going to be more than that!But the new so called princearmy of fans he has amassed threw social media are treating him as some kind of hero for keeping it cheap. So i just saying it might go abit flat if he suddenly starts charging 70 quid a show for three shows a night. Hoping he doesnt do three a night in mancherster cus thats when i will be going! biggrin biggrin

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Reply #186 posted 02/16/14 11:13am

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indigomoonbeam said:

Is the queue for the 2nd show thinning out now ppl know it is £70?

and how many people are in it?

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Reply #187 posted 02/16/14 11:14am

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antonb said:

The only thing is, hes made a rod for his back with the 10 pound tickets thing in the beginning now. I hope he puts in a solid show for all three tonight otherwise there could be a backlase.

And to be fair they did ask on Twitter last week who would be happy paying £70 for a show, and they were hammered with replies saying hell yeah, we'd pay that, just give us more gigs.

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Reply #188 posted 02/16/14 11:20am

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DaveT said:



antonb said:


The only thing is, hes made a rod for his back with the 10 pound tickets thing in the beginning now. I hope he puts in a solid show for all three tonight otherwise there could be a backlase.




And to be fair they did ask on Twitter last week who would be happy paying £70 for a show, and they were hammered with replies saying hell yeah, we'd pay that, just give us more gigs.


Bingo. Although I was fully prepared to pay £70 at Shepherds Bush I do get exasperated when Prince fans say they'd happily pay more exorbitant amounts (this isn't the first time prince's camp has asked these speculative questions over the years). It does kind of legitimise their pricing. I'd rather see a gig at SBE OR Koko at the normal average going rate for a small club like that.

I'm guessing that's around the £30 mark? Or am I out of touch? Big arenas are getting more like the silly £70 upwards but then Prince did the whole £31.21 thing in 2007 which was an awesome price for the O2.

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Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #189 posted 02/16/14 11:26am

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KeithyT said:

DaveT said:



antonb said:


The only thing is, hes made a rod for his back with the 10 pound tickets thing in the beginning now. I hope he puts in a solid show for all three tonight otherwise there could be a backlase.




And to be fair they did ask on Twitter last week who would be happy paying £70 for a show, and they were hammered with replies saying hell yeah, we'd pay that, just give us more gigs.


Bingo. Although I was fully prepared to pay £70 at Shepherds Bush I do get exasperated when Prince fans say they'd happily pay more exorbitant amounts (this isn't the first time prince's camp has asked these speculative questions over the years). It does kind of legitimise their pricing. I'd rather see a gig at SBE OR Koko at the normal average going rate for a small club like that.

I'm guessing that's around the £30 mark? Or am I out of touch? Big arenas are getting more like the silly £70 upwards but then Prince did the whole £31.21 thing in 2007 which was an awesome price for the O2.

He messes with your mind lol



I saw a show there on Tuesday it was £20 with £2.50 drinks between 7-8. £70 is too much for a short-ish show.. Think I'm gonna have to miss this one sad
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Reply #190 posted 02/16/14 11:34am

indigomoonbeam

According to @PrinceMuseum the queue is still at 800 to 1,200 so is heading rapidly towards capacity for 2nd show.......

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Reply #191 posted 02/16/14 11:35am

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TheEnglishGent said:



indigomoonbeam said:


Is the queue for the 2nd show thinning out now ppl know it is £70?



and how many people are in it?



I got there around 18:20. Queue was huge! Word on the street was yes, three shows, each 2hrs with an hour in between - so 19:00-21:00; 22:00-00:00; 01:00-03:00! When I joined the queue I reckon I would have been pushing it to get into the second show. So turned on my heel and have set off home. Completely at loss about the no advance ticket approach. Moaned about it before and now kicking myself for wasting hours of my life. But there was a great buzz so reckon it'll be a great night for those who get in.
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Reply #192 posted 02/16/14 11:36am

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KeithyT said:

DaveT said:

And to be fair they did ask on Twitter last week who would be happy paying £70 for a show, and they were hammered with replies saying hell yeah, we'd pay that, just give us more gigs.

Bingo. Although I was fully prepared to pay £70 at Shepherds Bush I do get exasperated when Prince fans say they'd happily pay more exorbitant amounts (this isn't the first time prince's camp has asked these speculative questions over the years). It does kind of legitimise their pricing. I'd rather see a gig at SBE OR Koko at the normal average going rate for a small club like that. I'm guessing that's around the £30 mark? Or am I out of touch? Big arenas are getting more like the silly £70 upwards but then Prince did the whole £31.21 thing in 2007 which was an awesome price for the O2. He messes with your mind lol

I think the £31.21 was due to the O2 massively subsidising the gigs/paying Prince lots to launch the O2, as artists are not selling the volume of CD's anymore, they are making the money on tours, I took my wife to see Madonna about 10 years ago at Earls Court and it was about £180 each face value for the front block, we were still about 60 rows back on the side of the stage.

At a small venus like Koko/SBE where you are guaranteed a decent view and sound (not a dot in the distance like at stadiums/arenas), I think its reasonable for a big artist to charge £70, but you should not have to queue up all day and take your chances, that price should include proper ticketing you buy in advance and turn up at the venue when the doors open, so you can plan for it at least a few days in advance (normnally weeks).

If it furst come/first served after waiting in line all day like it is now, he should charge the £10 as that's fair, as some people have given up allot and may not even get in after the expense of travel etc.

Saying that, having waited all day in line at SBE last Sunday, I was so happy to get in, I would have paid whatever they asked on the door, I was shocked it was £10 as I'm sure most fans would have been happy paying allot more, maybe they should charge on the way out, so you pay what you think it was worth, SBE was well worth the £70, Madonna owes me £175 !

[Edited 2/16/14 11:40am]

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Reply #193 posted 02/16/14 11:41am

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DaveT said:



antonb said:


The only thing is, hes made a rod for his back with the 10 pound tickets thing in the beginning now. I hope he puts in a solid show for all three tonight otherwise there could be a backlase.




And to be fair they did ask on Twitter last week who would be happy paying £70 for a show, and they were hammered with replies saying hell yeah, we'd pay that, just give us more gigs.


Yeah, but that's because they deleted all the negative responses.
The answers were mixed to negative, generally saying no problem with the price if the gigs were ticketed and standing all day wasn't required.
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Reply #194 posted 02/16/14 11:43am

egansmind

Prince is making huge losses on these gigs in London. You do not need to be a mathematican to work that out.

His hotel costs for all the band and his personal entourage would be huge alone plus venue hire and security for the gigs.

Once these announced gigs are done I reckon you will not see anymore

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Reply #195 posted 02/16/14 11:44am

indigomoonbeam

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DaveT said:

And to be fair they did ask on Twitter last week who would be happy paying £70 for a show, and they were hammered with replies saying hell yeah, we'd pay that, just give us more gigs.

Yeah, but that's because they deleted all the negative responses. The answers were mixed to negative, generally saying no problem with the price if the gigs were ticketed and standing all day wasn't required.

How do you know what the answers were, or is that opinion based on general banter in fan circles?

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Reply #196 posted 02/16/14 11:44am

egansmind

. . . and I would have been happy paying £70 to see him if I could get tickets in advance and a 2 hour show.

The key to it is tickets online but nobody seems to get this

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Reply #197 posted 02/16/14 11:52am

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DaveT said:

antonb said:

The only thing is, hes made a rod for his back with the 10 pound tickets thing in the beginning now. I hope he puts in a solid show for all three tonight otherwise there could be a backlase.

And to be fair they did ask on Twitter last week who would be happy paying £70 for a show, and they were hammered with replies saying hell yeah, we'd pay that, just give us more gigs.

Maybe they should have asked the question 'Would you pay £70 to buy a guaranteed ticket for a 2+ hour show a few days in advance and turn up at the gig 1 hour before the start like any normal gig?'

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Reply #198 posted 02/16/14 11:58am

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the tour was called hit and run so actually we all could know what that meant. But i agree that a proper ticketsale would have been the best because people buying a ticket in advance know they are in...Now it all is a bit risky although i never would have thought that no more than 1500 people were gathered for the first show. For me living in Holland that is impossible to believe as in Holland in notime 2000 people were standing in front of the melkweg in 2011. Impossible to get in..

But i think they dont realize that there are people r standing outside for the whole day to get in so only for that reason they should organize an online ticketsale. I personally think it is a bit unrespectful to the diehards standing in the cold the whole day..

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Reply #199 posted 02/16/14 11:58am

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I think that's more than 140 characters ecnirp98 lol
[Edited 2/16/14 11:59am]
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #200 posted 02/16/14 11:59am

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Are people in yet?
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Reply #201 posted 02/16/14 12:00pm

egansmind

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the tour was called hit and run so actually we all could know what that meant. But i agree that a proper ticketsale would have been the best because people buying a ticket in advance know they are in...Now it all is a bit risky although i never would have thought that no more than 1500 people were gathered for the first show. For me living in Holland that is impossible to believe as in Holland in notime 2000 people were standing in front of the melkweg in 2011. Impossible to get in..

But i think they dont realize that there are people r standing outside for the whole day to get in so only for that reason they should organize an online ticketsale. I personally think it is a bit unrespectful to the diehards standing in the cold the whole day..

If there had been a 48 hour tickets in advance I am sure all this nonsense could be avoided

Its simple eventing organisation

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Reply #202 posted 02/16/14 12:06pm

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egansmind said:

rafael said:

the tour was called hit and run so actually we all could know what that meant. But i agree that a proper ticketsale would have been the best because people buying a ticket in advance know they are in...Now it all is a bit risky although i never would have thought that no more than 1500 people were gathered for the first show. For me living in Holland that is impossible to believe as in Holland in notime 2000 people were standing in front of the melkweg in 2011. Impossible to get in..

But i think they dont realize that there are people r standing outside for the whole day to get in so only for that reason they should organize an online ticketsale. I personally think it is a bit unrespectful to the diehards standing in the cold the whole day..

If there had been a 48 hour tickets in advance I am sure all this nonsense could be avoided

Its simple eventing organisation

Yeah, but then would ya be happy to see touts ramping up the ticket prices outside by £100+ and depriving genuine fans entry at a fair price?

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Reply #203 posted 02/16/14 12:07pm

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I think that's more than 140 characters ecnirp98 lol [Edited 2/16/14 11:59am]

haha u get my point, I don't tw*t allot smile

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Reply #204 posted 02/16/14 12:19pm

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o.k......where is the setlist till now....

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Reply #205 posted 02/16/14 12:21pm

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indigomoonbeam said:

egansmind said:

If there had been a 48 hour tickets in advance I am sure all this nonsense could be avoided

Its simple eventing organisation

Yeah, but then would ya be happy to see touts ramping up the ticket prices outside by £100+ and depriving genuine fans entry at a fair price?

yes you r right about that but that can be avoided to show your identity card....I know that s a hassle but it can be done...

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Reply #206 posted 02/16/14 12:28pm

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Whilst I agree with the whole 'advanced ticketing' idea I think it's now too late for that. Advanced ticketing for a tour would be great but the way things are panning out you'll be trying to get advanced tickets for a 1 off show at a venue holding 1000 people. Trying to get through would be a nightmare. At least this way you make a choice to head to the city and wit to get in line. I would be taking a massive risk going to London but have now set my heart on going to Manchester on Friday in the hop I can get to the venue as soon as it's announced. If Friday night suddenly becomes advance tickets on sale on Wednesday for example then I have to hope I can get through to a phone line, if I'm free to spend some time trying, and hope I get a ticket. That would be my worst case scenario now.

So yes in theory the advanced sales are best but only if it's advanced for a whole set of tour dates and venues, at this late stage it could work against a lot of true fans, especially those up north who have seen Friday and Saturday as their only chance.
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Reply #207 posted 02/16/14 12:30pm

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Whilst I agree with the whole 'advanced ticketing' idea I think it's now too late for that. Advanced ticketing for a tour would be great but the way things are panning out you'll be trying to get advanced tickets for a 1 off show at a venue holding 1000 people. Trying to get through would be a nightmare. At least this way you make a choice to head to the city and wit to get in line. I would be taking a massive risk going to London but have now set my heart on going to Manchester on Friday in the hop I can get to the venue as soon as it's announced. If Friday night suddenly becomes advance tickets on sale on Wednesday for example then I have to hope I can get through to a phone line, if I'm free to spend some time trying, and hope I get a ticket. That would be my worst case scenario now. So yes in theory the advanced sales are best but only if it's advanced for a whole set of tour dates and venues, at this late stage it could work against a lot of true fans, especially those up north who have seen Friday and Saturday as their only chance. [Edited 2/16/14 12:29pm]

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Reply #208 posted 02/16/14 12:32pm

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indigomoonbeam said:

egansmind said:

If there had been a 48 hour tickets in advance I am sure all this nonsense could be avoided

Its simple eventing organisation

Yeah, but then would ya be happy to see touts ramping up the ticket prices outside by £100+ and depriving genuine fans entry at a fair price?

But a panicking tout still with tickets at showtime is your best friend.

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #209 posted 02/16/14 12:35pm

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Marrk said:

indigomoonbeam said:

Yeah, but then would ya be happy to see touts ramping up the ticket prices outside by £100+ and depriving genuine fans entry at a fair price?

But a panicking tout still with tickets at showtime is your best friend.

I've bought plenty tickets for gigs from touts in the past and wouldn't have seen such great shows otherwise, including Led Zeppelin at the O2, but a small club show by someone like P with high demand for tickets is a seriously bad combination.

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