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Thread started 05/29/04 2:36pm

SensualMelody

Non-Biblical Answers, please!

WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN TO MANKIND...I.E. DO YOU THINK THE EARTH WILL ALWAYS BE HERE WITH HUMAN INHABITANTS?

I am just wondering what you think.... hmmm

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #1 posted 05/29/04 3:09pm

teller

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The earth will eventually be destroyed as the sun's energy is finite and must come to an end at some point.

Will we migrate to another planet before that happens? I sorta doubt it because...Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the street to the chemist, but that’s just peanuts to space.

Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #2 posted 05/29/04 4:37pm

SensualMelody

teller said:

The earth will eventually be destroyed as the sun's energy is finite and must come to an end at some point.

Will we migrate to another planet before that happens? I sorta doubt it because...Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the street to the chemist, but that’s just peanuts to space.

How much longer do you think it will be before this inevitablity?

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #3 posted 05/29/04 4:54pm

Luv4oneanotha

By the time that happens. We as a people will become so advance we'll bee bar hopping on other planets.
My opinion i go two ways.
A major step in quantum physics finds out the secret to time travel( yes it is possible)
and begin traveling through black holes etc...
Currently overpopulation is already exhausting much of the supplies animal life needs to survive
Scientist predict that Mars was actually a water flowing country that was transformed into an arrakis like desert straight out of frank herbert's books.
this most likey will happen to earth and we'll move on to another planet within another solar system
you think this is science fiction?
i'm not playing...

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Reply #4 posted 05/29/04 7:50pm

SensualMelody

I do think that whomever (or in your thinking perhaps whatever) caused this planet in this solar system to be inhabitable could also cause other habitats to be established.
The intellectual capacity of humans has barely been tapped (according to scientists)...They
say we are only using 1/10 of 1 % of the brain's capacity....and that's the smart people! lol

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #5 posted 05/29/04 9:39pm

ElectricPurple

without using the bible to answer this question.....


the only thing i can say is....

the world as we know it is slipping away faster than u can amagine.
rain forest are fading, the ocean and the air are becoming more and more polluted,
weather patterns are becoming more and more irratic.. There have been things done to this planet that can't be undone. natural resources are being depleted at a rate that nations are willing to kill and die to optain the "rights" to whats left.
humans as we know them to be now are fast becoming an IN DANGERED species.
we have cloning, genetic restructuring, viruses and other unnatural entites that are changing the structure of our existance.
and lets not forget about technology what that alone is doing is UNBELIEVable

if u look at the planet as if it were a human body you would see that Its in its final stages of "cancer"

and unless there is an "extratrestrial" injections this place is guarenteed to become a vast wasteland.

I HOPE 4 the best thought but I am PREPARED 4 the worst
how about U?

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Reply #6 posted 05/29/04 10:11pm

SensualMelody

You know, that's one of the nicest posts I have read of yours....very interesting.
Thanks.
I totally agree. biggrin

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #7 posted 05/30/04 1:57am

RomeoMustDie

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bored bored bored

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Reply #8 posted 05/30/04 2:51am

NewSystem

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Interesting thread. hmmm

Without the Bible there are really no answers, certainly no hope.

Where are you going with this SensualMelody? biggrin

Truth is incontrovertible,
Malice may distort it,
Ignorance may deride it,
But there it is.

Go to the source - www.watchtower.org

2 all the haterz on the internet somebody's lookin' at you. No more candy 4 you they got ur number now fool.
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Reply #9 posted 05/30/04 3:30am

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NewSystem said:

Interesting thread. hmmm

Without the Bible there are really no answers, certainly no hope.

Where are you going with this SensualMelody? biggrin


SMelody how many org accounts do you have 20? rolleyes give it up

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Reply #10 posted 05/30/04 3:44am

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I see the faaar faaar future the same way as Teller (hi again SensualMelody & Teller!), and I'd like to add that time as well is extreeeeemely big.

And I'm not a pessimist. Everything must pass and make space for something different, even if that 'different' is an immense void with one atom every billion kilometres.

Hope isn't really about the future. It's a spirit that you carry with you in the present. Feelings/ideas/drive/energy about working ideals that make you do good things. Or something like that.

The good spirit is always hard to distinguish from ego... sad

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Reply #11 posted 05/30/04 4:51am

NewSystem

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LillianLaughs said:

I see the faaar faaar future the same way as Teller (hi again SensualMelody & Teller!), and I'd like to add that time as well is extreeeeemely big.

And I'm not a pessimist. Everything must pass and make space for something different, even if that 'different' is an immense void with one atom every billion kilometres.

Hope isn't really about the future. It's a spirit that you carry with you in the present. Feelings/ideas/drive/energy about working ideals that make you do good things. Or something like that.

The good spirit is always hard to distinguish from ego... sad


Something like that? hmmm

To say that hope isn't about the future is a contradiction in terms.
[This message was edited Sun May 30 4:53:02 2004 by NewSystem]

Truth is incontrovertible,
Malice may distort it,
Ignorance may deride it,
But there it is.

Go to the source - www.watchtower.org

2 all the haterz on the internet somebody's lookin' at you. No more candy 4 you they got ur number now fool.
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Reply #12 posted 05/30/04 5:02am

NewSystem

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RomeoMustDie said:

NewSystem said:

Interesting thread. hmmm

Without the Bible there are really no answers, certainly no hope.

Where are you going with this SensualMelody? biggrin


SMelody how many org accounts do you have 20? rolleyes give it up


lol Looks like me and SensualMelody are going to have to come online simultaneously to dispell such myths. lol

Truth is incontrovertible,
Malice may distort it,
Ignorance may deride it,
But there it is.

Go to the source - www.watchtower.org

2 all the haterz on the internet somebody's lookin' at you. No more candy 4 you they got ur number now fool.
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Reply #13 posted 05/30/04 8:16am

teller

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SensualMelody said:

teller said:

The earth will eventually be destroyed as the sun's energy is finite and must come to an end at some point.

Will we migrate to another planet before that happens? I sorta doubt it because...Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the street to the chemist, but that’s just peanuts to space.

How much longer do you think it will be before this inevitablity?

It will be millions of years before the Sun burns out. So long it is, compared to human history, that I suspect if anything we'll be smashed by an asteriod or some or other natural disaster before the Sun gives out on us.

Shorter term than millions of years, we'll never use up the earth's natural resources--the earth is BIG. Really big...just like space is, and it's constantly fueled by the sun. There are no shortages of anything, just political barriers. So that's not the issue.

But sooner or later, yes, it all must end. And something new will come along somewhere else.

Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #14 posted 05/30/04 10:56am

SensualMelody

NewSystem said:

Interesting thread. hmmm

Without the Bible there are really no answers, certainly no hope.

Where are you going with this SensualMelody? biggrin


You know NewSystem, I really wanna know what's on the minds of those who are not bible-based in their conception of life.
After all, these are the people I often meet in the ministry.
Understanding their perspective can cut through a lot of unnecessary conversation.
It can help me know what interests them.


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[This message was edited Sun May 30 11:11:13 2004 by SensualMelody]

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #15 posted 05/30/04 10:56am

SensualMelody

RomeoMustDie said:

NewSystem said:

Interesting thread. hmmm

Without the Bible there are really no answers, certainly no hope.

Where are you going with this SensualMelody? biggrin


SMelody how many org accounts do you have 20? rolleyes give it up

RomeoMustDie.....what are you talking about?
I have 2 accounts on my computer, one for me and one for a friend.
Why would i need multiple accounts?
I am what you read. Anything I wanna say, I can say as SensualMelody.
No one intimidates me.
You ought to try the same thing yourself....and U don't have to tell me how many acoounts you have...
not my business, and I am not interested.
20 accounts? How absurd! lol

It's funny that people try to judge others by their own conduct.
I am for real...one if the most sincere people you have probably ever known
...probably why you can't fanthom.
Such an uninformed presumtuous post. shrug

Question for YOU...What am I supposed to give up?

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[This message was edited Sun May 30 11:07:23 2004 by SensualMelody]

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #16 posted 05/30/04 11:15am

SensualMelody

NewSystem said:

RomeoMustDie said:



SMelody how many org accounts do you have 20? rolleyes give it up


lol Looks like me and SensualMelody are going to have to come online simultaneously to dispell such myths. lol


Ohhhhh, That cat thought I was U???
What a compliment.
Romeo, NewSystem lives in Scotland....I am in the USA, but since we are both witnesses, we speak in agreement.
We believe the same things....we are brother and sister...united in worship of our Creator.
Moderators, you have permission to tell Dude he's wrong.


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[This message was edited Sun May 30 13:42:06 2004 by SensualMelody]

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Reply #17 posted 05/30/04 11:17am

SensualMelody

LillianLaughs said:

I see the faaar faaar future the same way as Teller (hi again SensualMelody & Teller!), and I'd like to add that time as well is extreeeeemely big.

And I'm not a pessimist. Everything must pass and make space for something different, even if that 'different' is an immense void with one atom every billion kilometres.

Hope isn't really about the future. It's a spirit that you carry with you in the present. Feelings/ideas/drive/energy about working ideals that make you do good things. Or something like that.

The good spirit is always hard to distinguish from ego... sad

Heyeeeee, it's been a long time. hug
So nice to see you. Thanks for your input. biggrin

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #18 posted 05/30/04 12:21pm

LillianLaughs

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NewSystem said:[quote]

LillianLaughs said:

To say that hope isn't about the future is a contradiction in terms.


What I'm trying to say is that the essence of hope lies in the present, in our minds and hearts.

The future is what we hope about, but it's not important what we hope. It's important how we hope and what it makes us do.

If you hope great things with fantastic intentions, you can still forget to take a good look at the actual situation and do terrible things.
At the same time, real cynical people may be saints to the world.

It's the latter that bring us closer to heaven (which shouldn't be called the The Hereafter, but The Otherhere, if anyone knows what I mean).

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Reply #19 posted 05/30/04 12:30pm

LillianLaughs

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SensualMelody said:

LillianLaughs said:

I see the faaar faaar future the same way as Teller (hi again SensualMelody & Teller!), and I'd like to add that time as well is extreeeeemely big.

And I'm not a pessimist. Everything must pass and make space for something different, even if that 'different' is an immense void with one atom every billion kilometres.

Hope isn't really about the future. It's a spirit that you carry with you in the present. Feelings/ideas/drive/energy about working ideals that make you do good things. Or something like that.

The good spirit is always hard to distinguish from ego... sad

Heyeeeee, it's been a long time. hug
So nice to see you. Thanks for your input. biggrin


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What ministry are you working for?

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Reply #20 posted 05/30/04 1:50pm

SensualMelody

LillianLaughs said:

SensualMelody said:


Heyeeeee, it's been a long time. hug
So nice to see you. Thanks for your input. biggrin


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What ministry are you working for?


Weekdays, I engage in the work of spreading the Bible's message in the community where I live. I meet people from all walks of life with many different backgrounds and philosophies.
Offering hope for the future is very much connected to how a person lives his life right now.
Many are despondent...looking forward only to life's end. I know this should not be the case but it is fact.
By sharing what the Bible says, many are given new hope, a smile, a reason to get busy enjoying what life has to offer AND helping others do the same.
It may not be everybody's solution, but it IS ONE SOLUTION. nod

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #21 posted 05/30/04 1:53pm

SensualMelody

Teller said

But sooner or later, yes, it all must end. And something new will come along somewhere else.

So you believe somewhere, somehow, human existence will continue? Round and round, one generation after the other?
Do you think the lifespan will lengthen? I mean in a meaningful way...not older and sicker.

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #22 posted 05/30/04 3:36pm

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SensualMelody said:

Teller said

But sooner or later, yes, it all must end. And something new will come along somewhere else.

So you believe somewhere, somehow, human existence will continue? Round and round, one generation after the other?
Do you think the lifespan will lengthen? I mean in a meaningful way...not older and sicker.

On earth, lifespans with lengthen as they always have. Science is wonderful that way.

On the cosmic scale, man will eventually vanish, but the universe is eternal so it will happen all over again, eventually, somewhere, in a different configuration. Perhaps not human as we know it, but still in "God's image" as you know it. The universe will never end, just as it never began--it is outside of time.

Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #23 posted 05/30/04 3:36pm

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Hi LillianLaughs! wave Good to see your two pennies in here again. smile

Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #24 posted 05/30/04 6:12pm

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Sure.

The sun will burn out in 6 billion years from now. So what. Earth will be long gone. We will have colonised Titan by then, and because if its distance from the new expanded sun, it will be nice for another billion years.

In the mean time, we'll invent solar system travel in minutes.

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Reply #25 posted 05/30/04 6:15pm

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NewSystem said:

Interesting thread. hmmm

Without the Bible there are really no answers, certainly no hope.

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Where does the bible give more option than science?

Surely there are as many answers, and questions, outside the bible as within? Unless you know otherwise.....do tell.

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Reply #26 posted 05/30/04 8:52pm

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A Jehovah's Witness recently gave me some official stuff to read...one thing I noticed that impressed me was that they aren't allergic to science. If anything, they attribute miracles to the same universal laws that science adheres to. This really did get my attention--if science and religion are ever to unite, they must warm up to each other.

hmmm

Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #27 posted 05/31/04 12:05am

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The bulk of civilization will destroy itself within the next 1000 years just because earth's resources will have been completely raped, but enough civilization will exist to survive and advance in science. The earth will one day come to an end by the sun, or a black hole, or any number of things, and human civilization will probably end at the same time. It's unlikely that we will ever travel throughout space to other inhabitable planets.

Case in point: We have yet to find one single hospitable planet in the universe, looking as far as scientists have been able to look. But, here is what scientists do know:

We cannot travel faster than the speed of light (debatable, but generally accepted)
The nearest star (the sun is not even considered a star) is light years upon light years away, and yet, it is estimated that there are more than 1X10^100 (that's a 1 with 100 zeroes behind it) stars in the universe. If you think of how long it would take to explore this area of space, never mind how long it would take to actual travel to any part of the universe, the odds are not good that it would turn out.

Maybe some crazy aliens will find us and take us somewhere safe, but I'd bet with the house on this one.

"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins
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Reply #28 posted 05/31/04 12:07am

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SquirrelMeat said:

Sure.

The sun will burn out in 6 billion years from now. So what. Earth will be long gone. We will have colonised Titan by then, and because if its distance from the new expanded sun, it will be nice for another billion years.

In the mean time, we'll invent solar system travel in minutes.


okay, wait, maybe I'm mistaken. All my scientific knowledge in this issue is second-hand. Is Titan an inhabitable planet?

"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins
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Reply #29 posted 05/31/04 1:56am

GRR

I would say before I became a Witness I figured man would destroy the planet but not in my lifetime. Man has damaged so much that it's hard to see them fixing what they have already done.

I don't think man has a fix. To many people do not care about the planet we live on. They spend so much money on space exploration but for some reason. Spending money on our planet doesn't seem to be on their priority list.

Maybe they know that there is no hope for earth and thus they spend this money for space so that those with money can find a place to survive since they figure that if it continues down the road it has been going, there will be no life on earth.

When I became a witness just like Melody. My views have changed but it's a very interesting to see what others have to say.

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