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Printable version (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)jujubeans said: Something tells me, if Larry Graham was a Kabbalist, Prince would have been a Kabbalist just because he puts him on a very high pedestal. Prince said in an interview that he never really studied the Bible til him and Larry Graham's group started their studies together. And that's where the problem lies. Jehovah Witnesses love people who don't already know what the Bible says because its easy for them to jump in and say "this is what it says" and put their spins on it without being refuted or challenged. I had an open mind to the Jehovah Witnesses when I didn't know what they believed. I read their literature and books but I also read those who disagreed with their teachings and why. I came to realize that though many things they teach are true the foundation is wrong. I know in my heart that Jesus, The Father, and The Spirit are One,and I see how they cut up the bible and twist it to their liking.
Ultimately Prince can make his own decisions, I just see his involvement with them as something that will isolate him and cause him to see himself as enlightened and others who are non-Jehovah witnesses as ignorant. I hope he doesnt build walls up to those who are not members of the kingdom hall and show special treatment to those who are. Everytime he talks about "the Truth" I know he really is meaning the Jehovah Witnesses teachings not God, and its sad when anyone makes an idol of their doctrines instead of God Himself. That's a very good point. I have felt that to be case when I started to research the JWs. Anyone who already knows the Bible, even a little, will be able see the error of their teachings. | |
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fantasyislander said: emmanuel said:
Although we may cleave to any one faith, or combinations of them, at the seat of the soul is yourself deciding when and how to believe. Ultimately, one can only strive to interpret religious or spiritual arcs which resonate with you. Oftentimes, we are assisted in life to make these decisions, but we must eventually come to terms with our own belief systems. Regardless of the quality of individuals in your group we cannot have perfectly congruent beliefs: once we realize we are made equally, but not identically, we begin to understand there cannot be "a single way" to live or love god - life is about finding YOUR way. Always has been, always will be. interesting idea, but i would have to say the bible says otherwise. God has one way He wants to be worshipped, and it's up to each one of us to make sure we are doing things His way, not our way. it is ultimately up to each one of us to decide how and when to believe, it's just that not all decide to worship God.
Good thread! What the bible says, or any other holy book, is subject to interpretation and opinion: I respectfully value yours. Evidence that god is male has not been adequately provided. All of created life points to at least two genders. Evidence that god is gendered has not been adequately provided. It is not possible to know exactly what god wants, or how god wants to be worshipped. It is my belief that god wants respect, just like anybody. Since there is no part of us that is not in god, regardless of what we would like to think, therefore, we are always serving god's will. Even, remarkably enough, if your name is George W. Bush. (Although I admit to having extreme difficulty with that one.) Your second last statement I 100% agree with. (Oh no, we have something in common!) As for your final comment please see the above "there is no part of us that is not in god" comment. The Only One with the Power to Save Us is Ourselves | |
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emmanuel said:
Good thread! What the bible says, or any other holy book, is subject to interpretation and opinion: I respectfully value yours. thank you! such respect for others beliefs is not always shown in this forum, and i thankyou for that. Evidence that god is male has not been adequately provided. All of created life points to at least two genders. Evidence that god is gendered has not been adequately provided.
actually, i believe that God is neither male nor female. in the spirit realm their is no gender. however, most people refer to God as He, i'm just using the common term for God, no offense intended. It is not possible to know exactly what god wants, or how god wants to be worshipped. It is my belief that god wants respect, just like anybody.
i believe God wants respect too, but i also believe that He has told us exactly what He wants from each one of us in His holy word the bible. Since there is no part of us that is not in god, regardless of what we would like to think, therefore, we are always serving god's will. Even, remarkably enough, if your name is George W. Bush. (Although I admit to having extreme difficulty with that one.) i respect your opinion, however i am inclined to believe what the bible says on this, that god isn't in each of us, but is a distinct person who resides in heaven. (Heb 9:24- "Christ entered . . . . into heaven itself, now to appear before the person of God for us.") by using his holy spirit, or active force, he can see and symbolically be anywhere at any time. Your second last statement I 100% agree with. (Oh no, we have something in common!)
As for your final comment please see the above "there is no part of us that is not in god" comment. thanks for reading and have a nice day! ![]() | |
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rainbowchild said: How long has he been a witness anyway??
I dont think that he will ever leave as he has been in the world most of his life and has seen that man can not bring about changes no matter how hard they try and promise. Only Jehovah God has the power to bring these needed changes and Prince now knows this. I dont think this is just a phase he is going through, most winesses of Jehovah have a burning desire to know the truth about life, death, etc. and when they do learn the truth nothing seems more important then to keep learning. I believe Prince has been a witness for almost 4 years . The death of his son really got him thinking. I was a huge Prince fan back in the 80's and was just as crazy as he was then. I just went to his musicoligy concert at the staple center and he was awesome , even without his old dirty songs. Listen to his song dear mr man. That song is how most people yearning for the truth feel about the world conditions. | |
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zkp2003 said: rainbowchild said: How long has he been a witness anyway??
I dont think that he will ever leave as he has been in the world most of his life and has seen that man can not bring about changes no matter how hard they try and promise. Only Jehovah God has the power to bring these needed changes and Prince now knows this. I dont think this is just a phase he is going through, most winesses of Jehovah have a burning desire to know the truth about life, death, etc. and when they do learn the truth nothing seems more important then to keep learning. I believe Prince has been a witness for almost 4 years . The death of his son really got him thinking. I was a huge Prince fan back in the 80's and was just as crazy as he was then. I just went to his musicoligy concert at the staple center and he was awesome , even without his old dirty songs. Listen to his song dear mr man. That song is how most people yearning for the truth feel about the world conditions. I think you're right. The Truth is by no means an experimental thing. It's about life! And hope! You don't wanna throw that away. Just wondering. Wouldn't it be nice to attend one of Prince's afterparties during the new system, with special guest: W.A. Mozart (on keyboards of course)? Hebrews 4:12 "For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints and [their] marrow, and [is] able to discern thoughts and intentions of [the] heart." | |
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LarrytheGOD said: SensualMelody said: It is amazing how people can look in the face of facts and refuse to see it. There is a witness baptized on the average ...one every 2 minutes...but so what? And Prince is busier than he has ever been. What are U talking about? [snip-sos...easy people...] Whoaaaaa I missed that. hahaha. Larry musta got ugly with me. So...how's everybody doing? | |
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jujubeans said: Something tells me, if Larry Graham was a Kabbalist, Prince would have been a Kabbalist just because he puts him on a very high pedestal. Prince said in an interview that he never really studied the Bible til him and Larry Graham's group started their studies together. And that's where the problem lies. Jehovah Witnesses love people who don't already know what the Bible says because its easy for them to jump in and say "this is what it says" and put their spins on it without being refuted or challenged.
I had an open mind to the Jehovah Witnesses when I didn't know what they believed. I read their literature and books but I also read those who disagreed with their teachings and why. I came to realize that though many things they teach are true the foundation is wrong. I know in my heart that Jesus, The Father, and The Spirit are One,and I see how they cut up the bible and twist it to their liking. Ultimately Prince can make his own decisions, I just see his involvement with them as something that will isolate him and cause him to see himself as enlightened and others who are non-Jehovah witnesses as ignorant. I hope he doesnt build walls up to those who are not members of the kingdom hall and show special treatment to those who are. Everytime he talks about "the Truth" I know he really is meaning the Jehovah Witnesses teachings not God, and its sad when anyone makes an idol of their doctrines instead of God Himself. YES I AGREE IT IS SAD . ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR NOT A JEHOVAHS WITNESS AND YOU GET YOUR INFO. ABOUT OUR BELIEFS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WITNESSES OF JEHOVAH. AS FAR AS TWISTING THE SCRIPTURES GO, THE CLERGY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB AT THAT .THE FACT THAT MOST ALL CHURCHES ARE FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD OPEN SOME PEOPLES EYES. KINGDOM HALLS ARE BUILT AND FUNDED BY JEHOVAHS WITNESSES NOT THE GOVERNMENT. WE DO OUR WORK FOR FREE NOT FOR A PRICE LIKE CHRISTENDOM. ALSO YOU WILL NEVER SEE AN OFFERING PLATE PASSED AROUND AT OUR MEETINGS TO PRESSURE PEOPLE INTO GIVING, FRANKLY THATS ALL I SAW IN SEVERAL CHURCHES BEFORE I LEARNED THE TRUTH. TO KNOW THIS TRUTH ABOUT THE FATHER , SON , AND HOLY SPIRIT IS EVEN MORE COMFORTING. THE BELIEF THAT THEY ARE ALL ONE IS OF PAGAN ORIGIN. IN THE BIBLE WHEN IT SAYS THE THREE ARE ONE IT MEANS THEY ARE ONE IN PURPOSE AND THOUGHT, NOT THREE HEADS IN ONE DO YOUR RESEARCH AND SEE FOR YOUR SELF THE ORIGIN OF WORSHIPING TRIAD GODS IS PAGAN. THE WORD TRINITY NOR ITS TEACHINGS ARE FOUND ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE. LOOK UP TRINITY IN THE ENCYCLOPEDIA. GO TO GREATER LENGHTHS THAN JUST BELIEVING WHAT SOME IMPERFECT HUMAN HAS TOLD YOU. INVESTIGATE IT . IT IS SOMETHING THAT TAKES TIME ...BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS TRUE THEN YOU WILL MAKE TIME TO SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES AS IF YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A TREASURE AS THE BIBLE SAYS. | |
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yaroon said: zkp2003 said: I dont think that he will ever leave as he has been in the world most of his life and has seen that man can not bring about changes no matter how hard they try and promise. Only Jehovah God has the power to bring these needed changes and Prince now knows this. I dont think this is just a phase he is going through, most winesses of Jehovah have a burning desire to know the truth about life, death, etc. and when they do learn the truth nothing seems more important then to keep learning. I believe Prince has been a witness for almost 4 years . The death of his son really got him thinking. I was a huge Prince fan back in the 80's and was just as crazy as he was then. I just went to his musicoligy concert at the staple center and he was awesome , even without his old dirty songs. Listen to his song dear mr man. That song is how most people yearning for the truth feel about the world conditions. I think you're right. The Truth is by no means an experimental thing. It's about life! And hope! You don't wanna throw that away. Just wondering. Wouldn't it be nice to attend one of Prince's afterparties during the new system, with special guest: W.A. Mozart (on keyboards of course)? YES THAT WOULD BE SOME PARTY IN THE NEW SYSTEM | |
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THE FACT THAT MOST ALL CHURCHES ARE FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD OPEN SOME PEOPLES EYES.
I'd be interested to know where you're getting these facts from. The JW society is granted the same tax breaks as other religions. Open up a regular transfer from your bankaccount to theirs, fill out a covenent form and the government donates 20% (i think) ontop of your donation. ALSO YOU WILL NEVER SEE AN OFFERING PLATE PASSED AROUND AT OUR MEETINGS TO PRESSURE PEOPLE INTO GIVING
True, but you're constantly reminded where the contribution boxes are placed. You're reminded that covenents are a more tax efficient way to donate. Also other religions dont make money selling millions of books/magazines. They dont need to pass a plate around the kingdon hall when they are already generating almost $1billion dollors per year. Also remember the fact that many churches are involved in either local or international humanitarian acts. (Red Cross etc) According to the WT website,(I think thats where I read it) JW's have contributed only twice to humanitarian acts since 1998. Do I think Prince will ever leave the Jehovah's Witnesses?
I dont care. As long as his creativity isnt stunted as a result of his new religion, then I couldnt care less what, who or how he worshipped. Its none of my business. | |
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yxl1 said: you're constantly reminded where the contribution boxes are placed.
This does not change the fact that donations are voluntarty. Of course, we're encouraged to give what we can, but there's no pressure if that's what you're insinuating. You're reminded that covenents are a more tax efficient way to donate.
That's an individual's choice. Still no pressure, if that's what you're insinuating. Why not petition the government regarding that one? Also other religions dont make money selling millions of books/magazines. They dont need to pass a plate around the kingdon hall when they are already generating almost $1billion dollors per year.
Boy, you've been out awhile haven't you? Tons of religions make money selling people crap. JWs don't sell anything. We offer our literature to people and let them know that we accept donations to contribute to the worldwide work. I've given away tons of magazines to people with the assurance that they'll read them. That's what matters. No one is pocketing this money, dude (and I think you know that). It doesn't matter how much the WTBTS brings in either, because it all goes to support the preaching work. What you failed to mention about many churches is the fact that too many of them do pass the plate only to support a greedy preacher who has a taste for the finer things. *reading comprehension/caffeinated chai tea edit* [This message was edited Fri Jun 11 6:30:09 2004 by OdysseyMiles] | |
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Boy, you've been out awhile haven't you? Tons of religions make money selling people crap. JWs don't sell anything. We offer our literature to people and let them know that we accept donations to contribute to the worldwide work.
This does not change the fact that donations are voluntarty.
Prior to 1990(ish) you paid for the magazines and then sold them (for no profit) to householders. The new policy announced in 1990 detailed a complete donation basis for literature and was now being supplied to Halls without charge ,but contribution boxes are placed by the counter where you pick up your order. Out in the field, donations are asked for, but not nessesary when placing magazines. All donations obtained are bought back to the KH and sent to the society. The society claimed that the motivation behind this change was to reduce paperwork: "By adopting a method of literature distribution based completely on donation, Jehovah's people are able to greatly simplify our Bible education work and separate ourselves from those who commercialize religion." (Letter from the Watch Tower Society to all U.S. congregations dated February 21, 1990.) Now, just one month before the new policy was announced, the society watched the progess of the Supreme Courts ruling on California Board of Equalization Vs. Jimmy Swaggart Ministries. California wanted to access sales taxes on the sales of books and tapes etc by Swaggart's ministry. The Watchtower Socity filed amicus curiae (friend of the court legal brief) in suport of Swaggarts postition that a religious org should be exempt from taxation. On july 17th 1990 (just a little over a month before the society changed its policy), the Supreme court ruled AGAINST Swaggart and permitted taxation. The Societies new policy avoided any liability for taxation by tak8ing the finanical transaction out of the picture as donations cannot be taxed. Normally I'd have no problem with this, but the fact that they keep on pulling the wool over the eyes of their own followers is disgraceful. Also, I just cant be bothered to quote the many references where the society asks for money. nothing wrong with that, but I get bored of the average JW saying it aint so. (Probably as much as you're bored reading them) yxl1 | |
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zkp2003 said: KINGDOM HALLS ARE BUILT AND FUNDED BY JEHOVAHS WITNESSES NOT THE GOVERNMENT. WE DO OUR WORK FOR FREE NOT FOR A PRICE LIKE CHRISTENDOM. ALSO YOU WILL NEVER SEE AN OFFERING PLATE PASSED AROUND AT OUR MEETINGS TO PRESSURE PEOPLE INTO GIVING, FRANKLY THATS ALL I SAW IN SEVERAL CHURCHES BEFORE I LEARNED THE TRUTH.
"..the God I believe in isnt short on cash, mister!" - Bono of U2 Many Christmas' ago, I went to buy a doll for my son. I reached for the last one they had, but so did another man. As I rained blows upon him, I realized there had to be another way. | |
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yxl1 said: I just cant be bothered to quote the many references where the society asks for money. nothing wrong with that, but I get bored of the average JW saying it aint so. (Probably as much as you're bored reading them)
yxl1 Bored is right. In the end, Jah's organization works for me. If it's not you're cup of tea, cool. | |
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yxl1 said: . . . Now, just one month before the new policy was announced . . .
yeah, because it takes no time at all to change policies, and they decided overnight to do this. and it happened that fast. sure. ok. | |
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namepeace said: I don't feel right about speculating whether an artist would abandon the faith of his choosing for the benefit of his fans. I hope he remains true to his faith.
Nice, terse response. Very insightful and sensible. Good 'ol Namepeace. | |
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HiinEnkelte said: Mr7 said: It doesn't matter how many of these critical threads are created.
The fact is, the over 6 and a half million baptised Jehovah's Witnesses all around the world will continue with their door-to-door ministry and continue to praise Jehovah. Jehovah's Witnesses are experiencing increased growth year on year. On average, 5,000 new one's are baptised worldwide each week. The persecution and the criticism fail. Some of the posters who are commenting on this thread have been on this site for years. However, Jehovah's Witnesses remain. Undaunted and unfaded. Peace Mr7 what is this supposed to mean?? is the truth a numbers game? will it be decided by numbers? according to these numbers, current, and all those of history, the JWs will always be outnumbered by the non JWs, so i could simply say with equal merit that, from what you said, the JWs should just stop propagating their version of reality. if the mormons start baptising more than the JWs, (remember they can baptise for the dead!) is that any reason to switch, or think they have the truth, or that their version of the truth should go unchallenged? if some people feel it their obligation to speak the truth as they understand it, then the value of their doing so should not be measured by whether or not others listen, ignore, or disbelieve. that is their choice. i don't understand how the logic you are using helps your case. . [This message was edited Sun May 23 16:50:31 2004 by HiinEnkelte] It is not measured by whether or not people listen...we know most people wont listen. We still go door to door with our fellow believers knowing we are doing what Jesus told his believers to do. Its not about who has more believers in ones religion I am sure the numbers are posted for people to see how we are growing not to say we have more. The Bible says at Matthew 7:13&14 " Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into distruction, and many are the ones going through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off to life, and few are the ones finding it. The Bible says FEW are the ones finding the road to life, so its no wonder we are out numbered. I am not here to argue but I can tell you when I first started studying. I tried to prove the teachings wrong but it was impossible my own Bible not the witnesses opened up my eyes and Jehovah opened my heart. We have a blast out in the ministry and are truly blessed for continuing to preach this good news of the kingdom for a witness to all the nations and then the end will come (matt.24:14) hence we will do this till the end of this system of things knowing we tried to warn people just like Noah did, however we know alot more than 8 people will survive this coming distruction. The Bible says that no man can number the ones that will survive this time. Jehovah' judgements are fare and rightious and he can read your heart we can not. | |
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jujubeans said: Something tells me, if Larry Graham was a Kabbalist, Prince would have been a Kabbalist just because he puts him on a very high pedestal. Prince said in an interview that he never really studied the Bible til him and Larry Graham's group started their studies together. And that's where the problem lies. Jehovah Witnesses love people who don't already know what the Bible says because its easy for them to jump in and say "this is what it says" and put their spins on it without being refuted or challenged.
I had an open mind to the Jehovah Witnesses when I didn't know what they believed. I read their literature and books but I also read those who disagreed with their teachings and why. I came to realize that though many things they teach are true the foundation is wrong. I know in my heart that Jesus, The Father, and The Spirit are One,and I see how they cut up the bible and twist it to their liking. Ultimately Prince can make his own decisions, I just see his involvement with them as something that will isolate him and cause him to see himself as enlightened and others who are non-Jehovah witnesses as ignorant. I hope he doesnt build walls up to those who are not members of the kingdom hall and show special treatment to those who are. Everytime he talks about "the Truth" I know he really is meaning the Jehovah Witnesses teachings not God, and its sad when anyone makes an idol of their doctrines instead of God Himself. I highlghted the things in your post that are true. The rest of it is ....well, let's just say...your inaccurate ramblings. The part in blue is true if you mean they are in total agreement...just as when a man and a woman marry, the Bible says they should become ONE...and as Jesus prayed that all his followers would become ONE. But if you mean they are one and the same individual.... So...how's everybody doing? | |
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neronava said: EvilWhiteMale said: I can tell you now that if Prince found Satanism, his music would improve dramatically.
Ah man, we're gonna catch hell.... BUT I TOTALLY AGREE! nero Of course, that's not taking into account that people have different tastes. So...how's everybody doing? | |
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SensualMelody said: Of course, that's not taking into account that people have different tastes. people tell me i got no taste. | |
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namepeace said: I don't feel right about speculating whether an artist would abandon the faith of his choosing for the benefit of his fans. I hope he remains true to his faith.
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Anxiety said: Who cares? Dylan became a born-again Christian for a while and his fans still followed him. Beck joined the Scientologists, yet Sea Change is a freakin' monumentally beautiful album. Laurie Anderson and David Bowie are two of my favorite artists - both Buddhists - big deal. So Prince is sneaking in religious references these days? I got a newsflash for ya - he's been doing that since DAY ONE. I've never heard anyone grousing about his recital of The Lord's Prayer in the song "Controversy" - Western religion has always been a motif in his music, even when he was deep down 'n' dirty. I don't give a crap what religion he is now, or what direction it takes him...unless he decides to go Amish, because that means he could no longer play an electric guitar and I couldn't get with that at all. But he'd look cute with the beard and the suspenders, I suspect.
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OdysseyMiles said: namepeace said: I don't feel right about speculating whether an artist would abandon the faith of his choosing for the benefit of his fans. I hope he remains true to his faith.
Nice, terse response. Very insightful and sensible. Good 'ol Namepeace. Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder | |
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meow85 said: I have no idea why Prince decided to become a JW, but if he thinks he's happy with it, that's all that matters I guess. But because he *is* so fickle, I think he'll probably get bored of it and wander off in another spiritual path eventually. I agree with what others have said though, it really does seem like he's limiting himself in terms of both his behaviour and his art because of it. Censorship is never a good thing.
I also kinda miss the uber-girlyness. And I don't appreciate how he's become so dogmatic these days... "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
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SensualMelody said: jujubeans said: Something tells me, if Larry Graham was a Kabbalist, Prince would have been a Kabbalist just because he puts him on a very high pedestal. Prince said in an interview that he never really studied the Bible til him and Larry Graham's group started their studies together. And that's where the problem lies. Jehovah Witnesses love people who don't already know what the Bible says because its easy for them to jump in and say "this is what it says" and put their spins on it without being refuted or challenged.
I had an open mind to the Jehovah Witnesses when I didn't know what they believed. I read their literature and books but I also read those who disagreed with their teachings and why. I came to realize that though many things they teach are true the foundation is wrong. [color=blue:923660c528]I know in my heart that Jesus, The Father, and The Spirit are One,[/color]and I see how they cut up the bible and twist it to their liking. Ultimately Prince can make his own decisions, I just see his involvement with them as something that will isolate him and cause him to see himself as enlightened and others who are non-Jehovah witnesses as ignorant. I hope he doesnt build walls up to those who are not members of the kingdom hall and show special treatment to those who are. Everytime he talks about "the Truth" I know he really is meaning the Jehovah Witnesses teachings not God, and its sad when anyone makes an idol of their doctrines instead of God Himself. I highlghted the things in your post that are true. The rest of it is ....well, let's just say...your inaccurate ramblings. The part in blue is true if you mean they are in total agreement...just as when a man and a woman marry, the Bible says they should become ONE...and as Jesus prayed that all his followers would become ONE. But if you mean they are one and the same individual.... Sensaul Melody it seems you only know God in your head and not your heart. God is Truth,not the Jehovah Witness teachings,Baptist teachings,Catholic teachings,etc. Youre going to find that heaven is full of people that were not Jehovah Witnesses. I know youre mentality because I was there. I went to several groups and churches that thought they were special because of their "insight" into scriptures. It's only when you leave these groups that you see how much you've allowed them to program you instead of God. Youre not at a place of humbleness where you can admit that youre group is not as great as you think they are. Where there are humans there are errors. I know (even though you might not admit it) that you hate people like me but I can't keep quiet anymore than you can. You think I'm inaccurate,and I think youre inaccurate but we're both loved by God equally regardless. | |
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jujubeans said: SensualMelody said: I highlghted the things in your post that are true. The rest of it is ....well, let's just say...your inaccurate ramblings. The part in blue is true if you mean they are in total agreement...just as when a man and a woman marry, the Bible says they should become ONE...and as Jesus prayed that all his followers would become ONE. But if you mean they are one and the same individual.... Sensaul Melody it seems you only know God in your head and not your heart. God is Truth,not the Jehovah Witness teachings,Baptist teachings,Catholic teachings,etc. Youre going to find that heaven is full of people that were not Jehovah Witnesses. I know youre mentality because I was there. I went to several groups and churches that thought they were special because of their "insight" into scriptures. It's only when you leave these groups that you see how much you've allowed them to program you instead of God. Youre not at a place of humbleness where you can admit that youre group is not as great as you think they are. Where there are humans there are errors. I know (even though you might not admit it) that you hate people like me but I can't keep quiet anymore than you can. You think I'm inaccurate,and I think youre inaccurate but we're both loved by God equally regardless. ![]() | |
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jujubeans said: Sensaul Melody it seems you only know God in your head and not your heart. God is Truth,not the Jehovah Witness teachings,Baptist teachings,Catholic teachings,etc. Youre going to find that heaven is full of people that were not Jehovah Witnesses.
I know youre mentality because I was there. I went to several groups and churches that thought they were special because of their "insight" into scriptures. It's only when you leave these groups that you see how much you've allowed them to program you instead of God. Youre not at a place of humbleness where you can admit that youre group is not as great as you think they are. Where there are humans there are errors. I know (even though you might not admit it) that you hate people like me but I can't keep quiet anymore than you can. You think I'm inaccurate,and I think youre inaccurate but we're both loved by God equally regardless. the thought is nice, but i think you are projecting. one person's experience is not necessarily that of the other, although externally it seems the case. | |
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