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What is true worship This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
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GRR said: This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
Treating your neighbour as yourself. We are worshipping the Father when we read what is written properly and when we listen to the prophets, rather than trying to kill them.So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is? --------
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"true worship": translated from greek, "ortho" + doxa", also meaning "right glory" or "right belief". u see there is no distinction between belief and worship. what we believe is expressed in worship and you cannot separate the two.
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yes indeed. i believe jesus himself banished and shunned a number of those he considered to be sinners, who had fallen from the path. right?  | |
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GRR said: This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is? Let me guess. Only the JWs know what true worship is? Thus only JWs truly worship God for they are the only ones doing the will of God? Am I right? [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 8:02:55 PST 2004 by 333] "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." | |
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In my humble opinion this it try to walk like you’re in Jesus shoes something that’s so difficult to do, we are not all perfect we just got to try harder. | |
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333 said: GRR said: This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is? Let me guess. Only the JWs know what true worship is? Thus only JWs truly worship God for they are the only ones doing the will of God? Am I right? [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 8:02:55 PST 2004 by 333] GRR has emphasized the topic is 'So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is?' I'll be particularly interested to read what you have to say on this matter considering I've only seen you knock down and never build up. Maybe knocking down is all you’re good for, prove me wrong 333. [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 10:48:21 PST 2004 by ScottNPG] | |
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ScottNPG said: 333 said: GRR said: This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is? Let me guess. Only the JWs know what true worship is? Thus only JWs truly worship God for they are the only ones doing the will of God? Am I right? [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 8:02:55 PST 2004 by 333] GRR has emphasized the topic is 'So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is?' I'll be particularly interested to read what you have to say on this matter considering I've only seen you knock down and never build up. Maybe knocking down is all you’re good for, prove me wrong 333. [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 10:48:21 PST 2004 by ScottNPG] okay. fair point. imo opinion, OPINION mind you, true worship is studying the wise teaching of the ages (be they buddhist, taosit, muslim, hindu, christian) and being open minded enough to embrace different concepts found there. then, applying the knowledge you have gained in treating each moment in time as the potential turning point for good vs. evil and acting compassionately toward those around you. in other words learning to listen with your heart and mind to the cosmic 'vibe' that is in every atom of the universe. i believe jesus himself taught that religion is to be found in each person's own heart, rather than in the words of men. here's something from a website that gives some interesting perspective on the vast differences between jesus' teachings and the teachings of men who, as false prophets, would wield power over other people for their own profit: from: http://www.jesusreligion.com/ Welcome! The purpose of this site is to help those who are bound under fear, produced from traditional christian religion teachings, find freedom and peace through learning to develop a relationship with God by his spirit. It is our desire to assist all in some way, on their spiritual journey of coming to know God and themselves - the truth. For all of us, it is a journey that may take different paths, but ultimately will lead to only one destination - the truth within you. So, how can we help those who are searching, find answers to life's greatest questions? Only by providing a unique resource of writings which attempt to offer a different view, can we hope to help break down the walls of those trapped within bad religion. Religion is traditional, man-made concepts of who God is, and not the truth. Fear, guilt and condemnation form the walls of the religious prison created by men. While often disguised as the truth and freeing, it is in fact a heavy burden carried upon the shoulders of many who are heavily involved in religious organizations and denominations, today. While recognizing there are some good christian groups in the world, there are many more religious leaders and organizations looking for converts to unknowingly mislead with their own brand of "Jesus Religion." Jesus never spoke against anyone except the religious leaders of that day (and their religion) who were misleading the people! This site carries on that same tradition, as we believe a religion was formed by men in Jesus' name, while ignoring the deeper truths Jesus lived and preached. Therefore, the various writings you find on this site have been written by authors who in the past have been imprisoned and shackled by false religious doctrines in the name of Jesus Christ. This gives each writer a unique perspective from which to write. They know the concepts and ideas of traditional christian church teachings (having been religious teachers themselves), and the freeing wisdom of the spirit of Christ, which now teaches them. The church is not baptist, catholic, christian, presbyterian, wesleyan, methodist or any other denominations or world religion. The church is not a church building. The church is people. So, how does one become bound to religious falsehoods? The major mistake most make while "searching for God," is to run into a religious organization such as a local church, and begin learning their beliefs, immediately upholding them as "true." Jesus once stated, "If the blind lead the blind, they both will fall into a ditch." The problem comes in allowing another person to lead you, rather than God's spirit. Yes, God will speak to you! "A knowing within yourself," is the spirit of God who will lead you unto all truth. Our goal is for you to learn to look within yourself for the answers you seek; for God will speak to your heart. Paul in Romans said, "...those who are led by the spirit of God are the sons of God." Surely, you dwell in God and God dwells in you. The Kingdom of God is within you. Peace be with you... . . . | |
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GRR said: This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is? true worship is whatever floats your boat... Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
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ScottNPG said: 333 said: GRR said: This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is? Let me guess. Only the JWs know what true worship is? Thus only JWs truly worship God for they are the only ones doing the will of God? Am I right? [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 8:02:55 PST 2004 by 333] GRR has emphasized the topic is 'So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is?' I'll be particularly interested to read what you have to say on this matter considering I've only seen you knock down and never build up. Maybe knocking down is all you’re good for, prove me wrong 333. [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 10:48:21 PST 2004 by ScottNPG] Oh Scott, why do you make it so easy? Don't you know that knocking down that which is false is a good thing. But to answer the question, true worship is defined in John 4:23 and 24. [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 22:52:39 PST 2004 by 333] "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." | |
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GRR said: This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is? I hope I am worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be worshipped. I try to follow the Bible...since that is the book that outlines worship to Jehovah.  MelodySo...how's everybody doing?  | |
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True worship is a paradox--it is both Humility and Pride. Humility in that you subjugate yourself to the object of your worship, and Pride in that it is a response to your highest values. Fear is the mind-killer. | |
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GRR said: This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is? Hi GRR, 
As many of us know: Jesus Christ said: “God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.” And: Worshiping God with spirit pertains to far more than the mental disposition with which I serve Jehovah. Jesus also said that God is a spirit (John 4:24) The true God is not material and he cannot be seen or felt. His worship does not revolve around say, a physical temple or a mountain. Jesus referred to an aspect of worship that goes beyond the things seen. True worship must be rendered ‘with truth’ in that it must conform to what God has revealed in the Bible about himself and his purposes. Our service to God must also be spirited, or zealous, motivated by a heart full of love and faith. (Titus 2:14) Personally I feel that I am involved in True Worship as do persons of other faiths. I Love the feeling of knowing that I am serving my God Jehovah in the best way that I can. I know can do more of course, but maintaining a strong relationship with my creator has been the biggest blessing in my life. Many people who do not worship/believe in God may not understand or comprehend what it means to ALL believers in him. Many will judge or criticize what we do and how we feel, but they have NO choice but to remember that this is something we choose to do for ourselves, as well as for our creator. | |
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fms said: "true worship": translated from greek, "ortho" + doxa", also meaning "right glory" or "right belief". u see there is no distinction between belief and worship. what we believe is expressed in worship and you cannot separate the two.
if u want to know how u worship god, look at what your beliefs are and how they are manifested in what u do. lex credendi lex orandi est = the law of belief is the law of worship. I'd co-sign this. The question posed is a very difficult one to answer, a question which I submit we haven't gotten completely right yet. Anyone who professes to know the true nature of how God wants to be worshipped wrongly arrogates a lot of knowledge unto himself. The matter of worship is a matter of how God touches your conscience to honor him and his law as you see fit.  [This message was edited Sun Jan 4 8:53:41 PST 2004 by namepeace] Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder | |
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XxAxX said: yes indeed. i believe jesus himself banished and shunned a number of those he considered to be sinners, who had fallen from the path. right?
XxAxX, I don't think Jesus ever did that. Not even did He condemn those who crucified Him. He did, however, condemn those who took it upon themselves to make judgments of other's obedience to God. And, as I read the Scriptures, he embraced "sinners," outcasts, pariahs. But that's just one man's opinion. Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder | |
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teller said: True worship is a paradox--it is both Humility and Pride. Humility in that you subjugate yourself to the object of your worship, and Pride in that it is a response to your highest values.
Ohhh, so good to see U teller!!! MelodySo...how's everybody doing? | |
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namepeace said: XxAxX said: yes indeed. i believe jesus himself banished and shunned a number of those he considered to be sinners, who had fallen from the path. right?
XxAxX, I don't think Jesus ever did that. Not even did He condemn those who crucified Him. He did, however, condemn those who took it upon themselves to make judgments of other's obedience to God. And, as I read the Scriptures, he embraced "sinners," outcasts, pariahs. But that's just one man's opinion. yes i know. i apologize for being sarcastic. to my knowledge jesus embraced sinners in their times of need | |
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XxAxX said: namepeace said: XxAxX said: yes indeed. i believe jesus himself banished and shunned a number of those he considered to be sinners, who had fallen from the path. right?
XxAxX, I don't think Jesus ever did that. Not even did He condemn those who crucified Him. He did, however, condemn those who took it upon themselves to make judgments of other's obedience to God. And, as I read the Scriptures, he embraced "sinners," outcasts, pariahs. But that's just one man's opinion. yes i know. i apologize for being sarcastic. to my knowledge jesus embraced sinners in their times of need I seem to have a knack for misunderstanding recently. mea culpa! Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder | |
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OdysseyMiles said: Hey guys
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To me, true worship is doing my best to follow the perfect example of Christ Jesus. good answer!!! MelodySo...how's everybody doing? | |
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SensualMelody said: OdysseyMiles said: Hey guys
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To me, true worship is doing my best to follow the perfect example of Christ Jesus. good answer!!! MelodyHey sis 
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OdysseyMiles said: Hey guys
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To me, true worship is doing my best to follow the perfect example of Christ Jesus. nice, terse response and excellent avatar. Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder | |
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namepeace said: OdysseyMiles said: Hey guys
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To me, true worship is doing my best to follow the perfect example of Christ Jesus. nice, terse response and excellent avatar. Why, thank you good sir! I gotta give 2the 9s props for hooking me up with the avatar (Miles is the man, but a picture of him AND Coltrane during the 'Kind Of Blue' sessions?? C'mon). You're avatar's not too shabby either. Can't wait for Episode III!!!  | |
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OdysseyMiles said: namepeace said: OdysseyMiles said: Hey guys
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To me, true worship is doing my best to follow the perfect example of Christ Jesus. nice, terse response and excellent avatar. Why, thank you good sir! I gotta give 2the 9s props for hooking me up with the avatar (Miles is the man, but a picture of him AND Coltrane during the 'Kind Of Blue' sessions?? C'mon). You're avatar's not too shabby either. Can't wait for Episode III!!! Thanks back at'cha. For the lineup alone "KOB" is one of the greatest LPs of all time. On another unrelated jazz note, I am actually starting to believe that the John Coltrane Quartet, aside from being an immortal jazz unit, was the greatest rock band ever. Yup. I said it. And as for Ep III, I am optimistic about it. It is just 16 months away! Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder | |
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namepeace said: The matter of worship is a matter of how God touches your conscience to honor him and his law as you see fit.
This sums up my belief here perfectly. ________________
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GRR said: This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
Having fun.So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is? --------
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333 said: ScottNPG said: 333 said: GRR said: This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is? Let me guess. Only the JWs know what true worship is? Thus only JWs truly worship God for they are the only ones doing the will of God? Am I right? [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 8:02:55 PST 2004 by 333] GRR has emphasized the topic is 'So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is?' I'll be particularly interested to read what you have to say on this matter considering I've only seen you knock down and never build up. Maybe knocking down is all you’re good for, prove me wrong 333. [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 10:48:21 PST 2004 by ScottNPG] Oh Scott, why do you make it so easy? Don't you know that knocking down that which is false is a good thing. But to answer the question, true worship is defined in John 4:23 and 24. [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 22:52:39 PST 2004 by 333] OK… worship in truth. And? I’m intrigued, tell me more. | |
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ScottNPG said: 333 said: ScottNPG said: 333 said: GRR said: This post is to point out what is true worship and who is livig by it. Ask a question, am I worshiping Jehovah the way he wants to be or do I worship him the way I want to worship him.
So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is? Let me guess. Only the JWs know what true worship is? Thus only JWs truly worship God for they are the only ones doing the will of God? Am I right? [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 8:02:55 PST 2004 by 333] GRR has emphasized the topic is 'So, the topic is, what is true worship. What do you think it is?' I'll be particularly interested to read what you have to say on this matter considering I've only seen you knock down and never build up. Maybe knocking down is all you’re good for, prove me wrong 333. [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 10:48:21 PST 2004 by ScottNPG] Oh Scott, why do you make it so easy? Don't you know that knocking down that which is false is a good thing. But to answer the question, true worship is defined in John 4:23 and 24. [This message was edited Sat Jan 3 22:52:39 PST 2004 by 333] OK… worship in truth. And? I’m intrigued, tell me more. Oh Scott do I have to do all the work for you? How will you ever learn? I told you where true worship is defined at, and now you want me to explain it to you also? Don't you think that you ought to do a little studying for yourself? "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." | |
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You have just confirmed what I already know; you only knock down never build up. You’ve got plenty to say when it comes to discrediting, twisting, and misrepresenting the Witnesses, but when it comes to stating your own believes you have very little to say. Pathetic… | |
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ScottNPG said: You have just confirmed what I already know; you only knock down never build up. You’ve got plenty to say when it comes to discrediting, twisting, and misrepresenting the Witnesses, but when it comes to stating your own believes you have very little to say. Pathetic… 
bigot /bi-guht/ noun a prejudiced and intolerant person - bigoted adjective – bigotry noun [This message was edited Sun Jan 11 12:02:45 PST 2004 by 333] "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." | |
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