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Reply #30 posted 01/01/04 4:21am

GRR

I am a JW and have been for sometime. If it wasn't for JW I would be lost. Maybe a drug addict. Most of my memories were filled with pain. When I was born, I was a three pound baby due to the fact that my father kicked my mom at six months. Guess where?

Growing up, I felt out of place & my mom beat me. At times she would place my hand on a hot stove. Instead of giving me spankings, I got hit right in my face with the belt. Growing up I was wishing my mother would die. In fact, when I prayed I asked GOD to kill her. She didn't die and thus I turned my focus and worship to Satan.

I prayed to him for money, love, and for mom to die. Crazy so far huh. I was about 10 or maybe even 12. I'm 30 now so forgive me if I don't remember the age. As I got older, my father still beat my mom. I didn't care how much my mom beat me. I needed to defend her.

My mother got away from him even though I was very close to my father. When my mother kicked him out he was homeless and he stayed homeless till he died. He was a heavy drug user. As a matter of fact. The drug that killed him was the very last drug I seen him take. I wasn't there when he took the fatal drug but days before I seen him shooting up in the bathroom while my mom was gone.

That picture stays in my head till this day. I joined a gang and they were my family. I got into drugs. I was about 14 or 15. I met the women who would become my wife. She was about 12. Again I was 15. In our relationship I messed up. I hit her NO I beat her and even almost killed her twice. I was a time bomb waiting to explode.

One day my wife answered the door after we got into again. It was a JW. She allowed her to come in. She took a bible study. I came around and I felt like I was so closed off and distant from Jehovah God for all the years growing up. I don't have to share this much of my personal life with those who read this forum but I feel like I must.

I have had a trust in God since I was young and as a matter of fact, I was raised a Catholic. As I type this I can with all my heart say that being a JW has changed my life for the better. My girlfried at 12 more than ten years ago became my wife and we have two children getting raised as a JW.

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Reply #31 posted 01/01/04 6:40am

SisterGirl

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GRR said:

I am a JW and have been for sometime. If it wasn't for JW I would be lost. Maybe a drug addict. Most of my memories were filled with pain. When I was born, I was a three pound baby due to the fact that my father kicked my mom at six months. Guess where?

Growing up, I felt out of place & my mom beat me. At times she would place my hand on a hot stove. Instead of giving me spankings, I got hit right in my face with the belt. Growing up I was wishing my mother would die. In fact, when I prayed I asked GOD to kill her. She didn't die and thus I turned my focus and worship to Satan.

I prayed to him for money, love, and for mom to die. Crazy so far huh. I was about 10 or maybe even 12. I'm 30 now so forgive me if I don't remember the age. As I got older, my father still beat my mom. I didn't care how much my mom beat me. I needed to defend her.

My mother got away from him even though I was very close to my father. When my mother kicked him out he was homeless and he stayed homeless till he died. He was a heavy drug user. As a matter of fact. The drug that killed him was the very last drug I seen him take. I wasn't there when he took the fatal drug but days before I seen him shooting up in the bathroom while my mom was gone.

That picture stays in my head till this day. I joined a gang and they were my family. I got into drugs. I was about 14 or 15. I met the women who would become my wife. She was about 12. Again I was 15. In our relationship I messed up. I hit her NO I beat her and even almost killed her twice. I was a time bomb waiting to explode.

One day my wife answered the door after we got into again. It was a JW. She allowed her to come in. She took a bible study. I came around and I felt like I was so closed off and distant from Jehovah God for all the years growing up. I don't have to share this much of my personal life with those who read this forum but I feel like I must.

I have had a trust in God since I was young and as a matter of fact, I was raised a Catholic. As I type this I can with all my heart say that being a JW has changed my life for the better. My girlfried at 12 more than ten years ago became my wife and we have two children getting raised as a JW.



Hi GRR!

You are very brave to share your story with us here. Tears came to my eyes when I read it and I think it is a beautiful thing that you found Jehovah and appreciate him and his love, isn't he a wonderful God to worship? I am so glad that your outcome was a good one. I know friends who have gone through similar experiences such as yourself and by relying on Jehovah they have been able to cope with their past and maintain in their present. I applaud you and send love and hugs to you and your family. hug

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Reply #32 posted 01/02/04 11:16am

FreeChild

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stymie said:

Abrazo said:

People have been quoting revelations over and over when they did not know how to view this world's disasters. Wars and earthquakes have been here since mankind can remember.
Darn it, A. You stole my answer.



I didn't quote Revelation at all...
[This message was edited Fri Jan 2 11:18:44 PST 2004 by FreeChild]

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Reply #33 posted 01/02/04 11:19am

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By the way, there were two more earthquakes this week.

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Reply #34 posted 01/02/04 12:18pm

SpcMs

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SensualMelody said:

Also interesting is at this same prophetic time, the scriptures say
that the "wild beast" (believed to be the UN) will turn on the "harlot"
and devastate her.
This "harlot" is believed to be the collective world religious empire.

In other words, The UN and its members will destroy organized religion as we know it.

I used to find that so hard to believe, but in my lifetime,
I have witnessed this "religious" empire fall from grace.

Now the governments are collectively poised to wipe her out.
Just look at recent events...especially in Paris.
Well, look here in the US...prayer outlawed in schools, churches lost tax exempt status
...ten commandment scandal...the uncovering of rampant child abuse
by the ones once considered most holy...
It goes on and on.

Watch and see...BABYLON THE GREAT continues to fall!!!
Revelation chapter 17: 15,16.

And this makes me believe we are in the time period that the
prophets refer to as the "time of the end".
This is not a frightening thing in itself.
Better times are prophecied as a result of these developments.
(Luke 21:28).

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Melody

U always play nice and and i like u and stuff, but between u and me, u really r a wacky, rn't u? Seriously.

"It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."

My IQ is 139, what's yours?
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Reply #35 posted 01/02/04 1:11pm

Number23

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SpcMs said:

SensualMelody said:

Also interesting is at this same prophetic time, the scriptures say
that the "wild beast" (believed to be the UN) will turn on the "harlot"
and devastate her.
This "harlot" is believed to be the collective world religious empire.

In other words, The UN and its members will destroy organized religion as we know it.

I used to find that so hard to believe, but in my lifetime,
I have witnessed this "religious" empire fall from grace.

Now the governments are collectively poised to wipe her out.
Just look at recent events...especially in Paris.
Well, look here in the US...prayer outlawed in schools, churches lost tax exempt status
...ten commandment scandal...the uncovering of rampant child abuse
by the ones once considered most holy...
It goes on and on.

Watch and see...BABYLON THE GREAT continues to fall!!!
Revelation chapter 17: 15,16.

And this makes me believe we are in the time period that the
prophets refer to as the "time of the end".
This is not a frightening thing in itself.
Better times are prophecied as a result of these developments.
(Luke 21:28).

heart
Melody

U always play nice and and i like u and stuff, but between u and me, u really r a wacky, rn't u? Seriously.


You're a Michael Jackson fan, motherfucker.
smile

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I hate goodness
I dont want virtue to exist anywhere
I want everyone corrupt
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Reply #36 posted 01/02/04 1:17pm

SpcMs

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Number23 said:

SpcMs said:

SensualMelody said:

Also interesting is at this same prophetic time, the scriptures say
that the "wild beast" (believed to be the UN) will turn on the "harlot"
and devastate her.
This "harlot" is believed to be the collective world religious empire.

In other words, The UN and its members will destroy organized religion as we know it.

I used to find that so hard to believe, but in my lifetime,
I have witnessed this "religious" empire fall from grace.

Now the governments are collectively poised to wipe her out.
Just look at recent events...especially in Paris.
Well, look here in the US...prayer outlawed in schools, churches lost tax exempt status
...ten commandment scandal...the uncovering of rampant child abuse
by the ones once considered most holy...
It goes on and on.

Watch and see...BABYLON THE GREAT continues to fall!!!
Revelation chapter 17: 15,16.

And this makes me believe we are in the time period that the
prophets refer to as the "time of the end".
This is not a frightening thing in itself.
Better times are prophecied as a result of these developments.
(Luke 21:28).

heart
Melody

U always play nice and and i like u and stuff, but between u and me, u really r a wacky, rn't u? Seriously.


You're a Michael Jackson fan, motherfucker.
smile

Yeah, but that's a strategic move. When people start using that against me, i know i've won the argument
suckaaa
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"It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."

My IQ is 139, what's yours?
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Reply #37 posted 01/03/04 4:07am

andyf

FreeChild said:

Anybody else getting the feeling that this show's almost over?
Not 'til the fat lady sings, brother. Don't you know that the show must go on? Life is an opera, in a way. Freddie knew this. And in the opera, the woman sings at the end.

Who is this?


andy

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Reply #38 posted 01/03/04 4:10am

andyf

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i sure hope the UN do wipe out religion, it's been nothing but trouble since some brightspark invented god and religion rolleyes

the French are on the right track wink
I like this! Both humourous and it has truth in it!

When Nietsche said that god is dead, he probably meant that man's idea of god is dead. Not the Father himself. Man has and keeps inventing god. But in his own image. Topsy-turvy worldy worldy. Have fun though. It is a chuffing pantomime as well as a jungle. And pantomimes are there for entertainment.

Oh yes they are!!!

andy

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Reply #39 posted 01/03/04 6:38pm

SensualMelody

SpcMs said:

SensualMelody said:

Also interesting is at this same prophetic time, the scriptures say
that the "wild beast" (believed to be the UN) will turn on the "harlot"
and devastate her.
This "harlot" is believed to be the collective world religious empire.

In other words, The UN and its members will destroy organized religion as we know it.

I used to find that so hard to believe, but in my lifetime,
I have witnessed this "religious" empire fall from grace.

Now the governments are collectively poised to wipe her out.
Just look at recent events...especially in Paris.
Well, look here in the US...prayer outlawed in schools, churches lost tax exempt status
...ten commandment scandal...the uncovering of rampant child abuse
by the ones once considered most holy...
It goes on and on.

Watch and see...BABYLON THE GREAT continues to fall!!!
Revelation chapter 17: 15,16.

And this makes me believe we are in the time period that the
prophets refer to as the "time of the end".
This is not a frightening thing in itself.
Better times are prophecied as a result of these developments.
(Luke 21:28).

heart
Melody

U always play nice and and i like u and stuff, but between u and me, u really r a wacky, rn't u? Seriously.


Seriously...No.
Let's talk..for real...I am me...what U read is who I am. U may not know many like me...not that I am so much one way or another,
but it seems U feel I come across as hypocritical.
I guess U cannot perceive that I may really be sincere.But that's ok...boo.
heart Melody

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #40 posted 01/06/04 8:36am

Abrazo

SensualMelody said:

Hello Abrazo...Thank U for these wonderful questions! smile

Here we go...

(1)How does this you wrote about "wipe out" religion?

What I wrote were observations on the change in attitudes of authorities toward religion.
Once held as sacred, they are no longer held in such high regard as evidenced by the things I mentioned.

I see. It's correct to assert that there have been important changes in attitude. Still, I can't see how that is, will be, leads, or is leading, to "wiping out religion".

The church used to run the state. Therefore "in God we trust" on money
..."on nation under God" in pledge...not to mention references in most proclamations
...Declaration of Independence, Gettysburg address...etc.
The changes are well documented in the developments over the past few years.

That's not entirely correct. The phrases "in God we trust" on money and "one nation under God" in the pledge of allegiance did not exist before the fifties, when they were inserted in the Mc Carthy era by conservatives (an era much like the current). Note too that "God" is not mentioned in the Constitution, the most important document of them all, despite the fact that its authors were religious men

In the US, prayer is not even allowed at football games. (public schools), nor are relogious celebrations.

Why should it be allowed? What is the value in praying at a football game? Wouldn't it just bring up tensions with people who don't want to pray or be confronted with prayer at a football game?

So I am saying, the stance that is being taken by authorities make it much more believable
what the Bible says about the governments turning on religion to devastate her...

Much more "believable" eh? wink
Sorry..., but I'm not convinced! smile

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Reply #41 posted 01/06/04 8:42am

Abrazo

SensualMelody said:

(2) If churches really "lost" tax exempt status you gonna have to back that up with some information, because I can't believe that would truly and fully be the case in the US. Perhabs you mean that churches have less benefits now than before. In any case, I feel that when churches make money they should pay taxes like every other citizen, company and institution that makes money does.

no disagreement here.

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Reply #42 posted 01/06/04 8:44am

Abrazo

SensualMelody said:

Christian with no tolerance of other religions or convictions, which makes him IMO a danger to society when he is a judge. Because he, of all people, should know how important it is that government institutions try to stay neutral in religious affairs ...

Total agreement here too.
Jesus was neutral to "state" affairs.
Christianity as instututed by Christ was neutral to political/state affairs.
Scripturally, Christians are told to be "no part of the world"
...meaning its political affairs. There was to be no mixing of church and state...
a stand still held to by at least one religion.

And yes...a judge should know...

heart Melody

Interesting that a Christian judge doesn't hold the same view, isn't it?

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Reply #43 posted 01/06/04 8:49am

Abrazo

SensualMelody said:

Now, after the churches have lost much of their moral superiority status and thanks to the separation of church and state these awfull cases can be brought into daylight where the so-called "holy men" who abuse children can be seen as what they are.

Precisely!
This is what I am saying...there has been a definite change in attitude...
To quote U..."the churches have lost much of their moral superiority status..."

The churches are also losing their credibility among people all over the world
and they have failed miserably in carrying out the function they claim they have...
that is to help people.

So to restate...the position of states in reference to the religious harlot
is "Get off my back! I'm tired of your prostitional acts."

Revelation 18:9,10 show the ones who used to profit from her...mourning her demise.

heart Melody

Ok, here I can go a long way with you I think... The Church (the Roman Catholic Church that is) is rapidly losing more and more of its moral superioriy, but also of its power and influence... However, the same does not really seem to hold true for many other Christian denominations ( see e.g. the growth in power of protestant christians in the US since the 70's), or for Islam or other major religions. Also, I still don't see how this will lead to "wiping out religion". Not just one religion, but religion in general. And not just losing power and moral superiority, but being "wiped out"...
Care to explain a bit further?

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Abrazo


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Reply #44 posted 01/06/04 8:52am

Abrazo

FreeChild said:

stymie said:

Abrazo said:

People have been quoting revelations over and over when they did not know how to view this world's disasters. Wars and earthquakes have been here since mankind can remember.
Darn it, A. You stole my answer.



I didn't quote Revelation at all...
[This message was edited Fri Jan 2 11:18:44 PST 2004 by FreeChild]

True! My bad... smile

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