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Thread started 12/15/03 7:19am

Therapy

Why don't you eat human flesh?

I'm interested to hear from vegetarians and meat eaters. Obviously, vegetarians in the true sense of the word, do not eat any flesh. I am therefore interested in thoughts about this subject from vegetarians. I am interested to know from meat eaters from experience, your thoughts about this topic.

Thank you.

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Reply #1 posted 12/15/03 9:34am

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How many cannibals do you know?

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Reply #2 posted 12/15/03 9:53am

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Now I know why your name is Therapy!

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Reply #3 posted 12/15/03 9:57am

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GermanHottie1981 said:

Now I know why your name is Therapy!



Good one! falloff

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Reply #4 posted 12/15/03 9:59am

TheGillman

Well, I do eat human flesh, but only if she cleans it first!

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Reply #5 posted 12/15/03 12:03pm

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I would if I was on my own on a desert island.

Did you spill my prescription?
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Reply #6 posted 12/15/03 12:25pm

teller

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I don't have a good answer... just that I find the idea repugnant. I refuse to eat dogs and cats, too.

Cows and chickens, no problem.

Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #7 posted 12/15/03 12:33pm

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Reply #8 posted 12/15/03 1:38pm

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hmmm I could mention that here in the U.S. human flesh is illegal to buy, sell and consume, but even before that I just think the idea of eating a person is..well... yucky.

I also think I've heard that human flesh is tough, bitter and very stinky as it cooks.

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Reply #9 posted 12/15/03 2:02pm

MD7

One argument would be the reasons given for humans being above animals and hence having the right to enslave, own, murder and eat them that they are less developed. This would fall apart however when you raise the issue of the seriously disabled humans etc who are unable to think on a level deeper than a smart pig etc.

Ultimately it's human vanity, not wanting to eat anything in their own direct image.

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Reply #10 posted 12/15/03 4:31pm

Therapy

MD7, it is that very argument about humans being above animals which I was thinking about.

I believe people that eat animals believe that they are superior to them, that they are there for their consumption and to do with how they please.

Ironically, people with an intelligence of a pig, would probably be the ones who chose not to eat an animal, over those with a supposedly higher degree of intelligence.

But eating animals isn't an issue of intelligence, it is an issue of not contributing to the rapidly degrading environment in a myriad of different ways, which threatens our survival and that of other species sharing the planet with us. Our alienation from the natural world damages not only those other beings we feel entitled to exploit and destroy, but also ourselves. The false belief is that nature is a resource and humans cannot in reality disconnect from nature. To me, there seems to be too much of a hedonistic gratification or for a narrow sense of individual salvation in this life or the next, rather than caring for animals and nature as a whole, caring for nature and animals because this is actually me (Buddhist, Taoist thinking).
[This message was edited Mon Dec 15 16:31:38 PST 2003 by Therapy]

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Reply #11 posted 12/15/03 4:56pm

Lleena

Most species don't eat in their own kind. I'm not sure if there are any animals that indulge in cannibalism, maybe somebody knows?

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Reply #12 posted 12/15/03 5:43pm

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Why would you want to eat a human. Have you seen what those things eat???

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Reply #13 posted 12/15/03 5:47pm

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Tom said:

Why would you want to eat a human. Have you seen what those things eat???


falloff that's funny!

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Reply #14 posted 12/15/03 5:49pm

Lleena

Are you asking this from a scientific or philosphical standpoint?

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Reply #15 posted 12/15/03 6:15pm

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Lleena said:

Most species don't eat in their own kind. I'm not sure if there are any animals that indulge in cannibalism, maybe somebody knows?

I know fish are not animals, but they do eat each other.

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Reply #16 posted 12/15/03 6:37pm

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Therapy said:

MD7, it is that very argument about humans being above animals which I was thinking about.

I believe people that eat animals believe that they are superior to them, that they are there for their consumption and to do with how they please.

Ironically, people with an intelligence of a pig, would probably be the ones who chose not to eat an animal, over those with a supposedly higher degree of intelligence.

But eating animals isn't an issue of intelligence, it is an issue of not contributing to the rapidly degrading environment in a myriad of different ways, which threatens our survival and that of other species sharing the planet with us. Our alienation from the natural world damages not only those other beings we feel entitled to exploit and destroy, but also ourselves. The false belief is that nature is a resource and humans cannot in reality disconnect from nature. To me, there seems to be too much of a hedonistic gratification or for a narrow sense of individual salvation in this life or the next, rather than caring for animals and nature as a whole, caring for nature and animals because this is actually me (Buddhist, Taoist thinking).
[This message was edited Mon Dec 15 16:31:38 PST 2003 by Therapy]


What about carnivorous animals like lions etc they dont eat each other but they eat animals, so do they do that coz they feel superior to oxen but dont eat cousin simba because of the vanity issue, i think its more due to the tastiness, thats why i eat lamb and beef and chicken , it tastes good not because it makes me feel superior to the afforementioned chicken.

You also say that eating animals is has nothing to do with inteligence, however popular evolutionary theory follows the line that our ancestors decision to eat meat provided the protien that enlarged our brains and therfore our intelligence.

Also your comment about someone with the intelligence of a pig would be less likely to eat an animal than someone of higher intelligence needs ellaboration. Why do you believe this ito be the case?
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Reply #17 posted 12/15/03 7:12pm

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the concept of animals as property, or as legal "things" plays heavily in this discussion. In his book "Rattling the Cage", Steven Wise writes at length about the history of animals as human property, and constructs a vision of the future that is truly groundbreaking. if you haven't read it yet, please do... it is very well researched and makes the point of compassion for all sentient beings in a very convincing way.

i remember distinctly the moment when i became a vegetarian: i was driving home from work, and was listening to a heart-wrenching report on NPR about cannibalism in a nazi concentration camp. i looked down at my arm and realized that the flesh on my arm is no different from the flesh of an animal. that moment, that decision to never eat meat again, was a catalyst for a number of changes in my life. i've never looked back.

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Reply #18 posted 12/16/03 5:17pm

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IAmTheTouch said:

the concept of animals as property, or as legal "things" plays heavily in this discussion. In his book "Rattling the Cage", Steven Wise writes at length about the history of animals as human property, and constructs a vision of the future that is truly groundbreaking. if you haven't read it yet, please do... it is very well researched and makes the point of compassion for all sentient beings in a very convincing way.

i remember distinctly the moment when i became a vegetarian: i was driving home from work, and was listening to a heart-wrenching report on NPR about cannibalism in a nazi concentration camp. i looked down at my arm and realized that the flesh on my arm is no different from the flesh of an animal. that moment, that decision to never eat meat again, was a catalyst for a number of changes in my life. i've never looked back.



Would u not class cultivating plants soley for the purpose of human consumption as being the property of humans too? what's the difference?

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Reply #19 posted 12/16/03 5:33pm

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cannibalism results in spreading prions diseases, so most species tend to avoid their own, although there are exceptions.

carnivores and cannibals r totally different.

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Reply #20 posted 12/16/03 6:19pm

Anxiety

Go rent a movie called "Keep the River on Your Right".

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Reply #21 posted 12/17/03 5:32am

IAmTheTouch

butter said:

IAmTheTouch said:

the concept of animals as property, or as legal "things" plays heavily in this discussion. In his book "Rattling the Cage", Steven Wise writes at length about the history of animals as human property, and constructs a vision of the future that is truly groundbreaking. if you haven't read it yet, please do... it is very well researched and makes the point of compassion for all sentient beings in a very convincing way.

i remember distinctly the moment when i became a vegetarian: i was driving home from work, and was listening to a heart-wrenching report on NPR about cannibalism in a nazi concentration camp. i looked down at my arm and realized that the flesh on my arm is no different from the flesh of an animal. that moment, that decision to never eat meat again, was a catalyst for a number of changes in my life. i've never looked back.



Would u not class cultivating plants soley for the purpose of human consumption as being the property of humans too? what's the difference?


the difference lies in their ability to experience pain and suffering. pretty basic, really.

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Reply #22 posted 12/17/03 6:00am

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Therapy said:

I believe people that eat animals believe that they are superior to them, that they are there for their consumption and to do with how they please.

That's me, yes.

Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #23 posted 12/17/03 7:08am

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Does eating pussy count?

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Reply #24 posted 12/17/03 7:27am

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Does eating pussy count?
lol Why did I expect a comment like that from you, Evil?

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Reply #25 posted 12/17/03 7:50am

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talmuzic said:

Lleena said:

Most species don't eat in their own kind. I'm not sure if there are any animals that indulge in cannibalism, maybe somebody knows?

I know fish are not animals, but they do eat each other.


Scientifically, fish are animals.

Also most spiders eat each other, even within their own species. Praying mantisis do as well. Again, these are all classified as animals by scientific definittion.

Still, it is rare for animals to eat their own kind.

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Reply #26 posted 12/17/03 11:09am

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stymie said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

Does eating pussy count?
lol Why did I expect a comment like that from you, Evil?



Cuz you know what I like. oral

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Reply #27 posted 12/17/03 11:10am

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mostly cause i have not figured out which wine goes with it

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Reply #28 posted 12/17/03 12:13pm

TheGillman

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mostly cause i have not figured out which wine goes with it


A nice Chianti. Fava beans also match quite nicely for a side dish.

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Reply #29 posted 12/17/03 4:45pm

IAmTheTouch

TheGillman said:

cborgman said:

mostly cause i have not figured out which wine goes with it


A nice Chianti. Fava beans also match quite nicely for a side dish.


falloff good one!

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