soulpower said:

soulpower said:

chemmie said:

and in actuallity there isnt much of a difference between what i would like to see happen here and what you have going on in Germany.

Quite amazing to read that from you. What happened?

Besides the fact that your government takes the money to pay for health insurance where i would rather pay for my choice of health insurance myself.

I think you misunderstood me. In Germany you DO have the choice of health insurance.

i know our system is fucked up here both health, social security, schools and everything else the government is involved with. and as you said, this isnt the fault of either political party. but i believe one political party can easilly make it worse by forcing government plans on the people.

In a true democracy, the governments plans are the people`s plans. Unfortunately, America is far from a true democracy. Although Germany is currently going through severe difficulties, people feel like they have much more control over what their government does than in your country. And you know what? They do...

"Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany"

soulpower said:

chemmie said:

and in actuallity there isnt much of a difference between what i would like to see happen here and what you have going on in Germany.

Quite amazing to read that from you. What happened?

Besides the fact that your government takes the money to pay for health insurance where i would rather pay for my choice of health insurance myself.

I think you misunderstood me. In Germany you DO have the choice of health insurance.

i know our system is fucked up here both health, social security, schools and everything else the government is involved with. and as you said, this isnt the fault of either political party. but i believe one political party can easilly make it worse by forcing government plans on the people.

In a true democracy, the governments plans are the people`s plans. Unfortunately, America is far from a true democracy. Although Germany is currently going through severe difficulties, people feel like they have much more control over what their government does than in your country. And you know what? They do...

"patriotism for most professional patriots seems to be inseparably connected with military violence and war." - Mulford Sibley

sosgemini said:

chemmie said:

chemmie said:[quote]Would it be safe to call America the most advanced and innovative country in the world in terms of technical, medical and all around innovation?[quote]Not sure if 'safe' is the right word. Look at it this way:

Technical advances--if the world was so advanced technically, how come there are still technical problems such as bridges falling down, lack of irrigation systems, cars having only a few decades shelf-life, lack of real ability to control bush fires? I can guess how come, all right!

Medical advances--do you know what the supposed great 'medical model' has done to the ideas of the mind, and to the people with supposed mental health problems? Watch 'One flew over the cuckoo's nest' and don't let anyone tell you it is not really like that. And remember Kurt Cobain's wail: "Frances Farmer will have her revenge on Seattle." The lady was lobotomized, brother. In the name of the medical model. Sometimes I think it would be better if we had no medical advances at all. The doctors took the power away from the priests centuries ago over who could decide what a psychological problem was.

There are a few open-minded pioneers about, however. RD Laing was one, but he was villified, natch. He was treated as a betrayer, because he started off medically trained. But stuff all that medical training if what he saw was the suffering of mostly innocent people. And that suffering was under the guise of 'medical care'.

Read Dorothy Rowe. They did not publish 'Beyond Fear' in the States originally. Do you know why? Because she was brave enough to say that there was no solution to fear, that by understanding and accepting it, we may be able to transcend. But it cannot be cast out. Oh Sons and Daughters. Do not be afraid of fear. Accept it into your lives. It is there to protect you, not to destroy you!


All round innovation--blacks are still suffering in the ghettos. Brother is killing brother, still. They are being blamed themselves for this problem, when what they are doing is the symptom to the real problem--no real fair wealth distribution. And wealth is not just money--it is food, clothes, understanding and love. Yes, love. Or at least it should be!

The British Commonwealth, for example. Do you know that wealth was created by the poor? The poor blacks picking cotton, the poor Brits down the coal-mine, the poor asians with the tea-leaves. Them amongst many other poor. And who has that wealth now? The rich, brother. And when the direct descendents of those poor (the poor now), try to reclaim some of it back, they come across bureaucracy, accusations and mocking. So the poor understandably react with anger, or try to reclaim the wealth on their own account. Then what happens? They end up in prison. The cycle then continues. Nation of Islam are right in at least one respect--try to break this cycle. I think more freedom should be given by them to those in bondage, but at least they are right in that respect.

The gap between bondage and freedom can be a very hard bridge to take. I know this at the moment. But it does not have to be. There are some so-called 'innovative' programs in the UK that try to get people back to work. The government pays a private company over £1000 if it finds work for someone on a type of welfare. Why oh why doesn't the government just give the individual this money straight off as soon as he finds work? It would save the government money, it would ease the initial financial burden that the new worker often faces, and it would put more faith in the populace.


Something like that, anyway!

andy