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2 the believers & unbelievers, let's dig deep 4 one sec I don't have a problem with folks who choose not believe, because you have a right to choose to believe in whatever you want. It's all on you, but what I do have a problem with those who choose not to believe and they feel as if they have a right to disrespect & ridicule those who choose to believe. I've seen it many done many times on this site. I think some people believe they have a right to do this, because of their lack of respect for religion, but my question is, if you are a atheist who ridicules Christians (or any other religion) for believing then , what makes you so different from the religious leaders who ridicules others 4 living a alternative lifestyle? See What I’m saying ?
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DigitalLisa said: I don't have a problem with folks who choose not believe, because you have a right to choose to believe in whatever you want. It's all on you, but what I do have a problem with those who choose not to believe and they feel as if they have a right to disrespect & ridicule those who choose to believe. I've seen it many done many times on this site. I think some people believe they have a right to do this, because of their lack of respect for religion, but my question is, if you are a atheist who ridicules Christians (or any other religion) for believing then , what makes you so different from the religious leaders who ridicules others 4 living a alternative lifestyle? See What I’m saying ?
Conclusion, respect comes from both end, rather you choose to believe or not and just because you don’t believe, there still is a such thing of knowing the difference between wrong & right. deep edit [This message was edited Mon Nov 17 8:11:58 PST 2003 by DigitalLisa] Some of u Atheist seems just as self righteous as some preahcers I know, so is there really a difference ? | |
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Because athiests don't go around starting wars in the name of imaginary characters.
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SquirrelMeat said: Because athiests don't go around starting wars in the name of imaginary characters.
Religions do. Thats the difference. No they have proper reasons like money or oil | |
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mdiver said: SquirrelMeat said: Because athiests don't go around starting wars in the name of imaginary characters.
Religions do. Thats the difference. No they have proper reasons like money or oil Actually, athiest couldn't claim exclusivity on that one. Religions want a piece of that too. Reverend George Bush is a good expample. . [This message was edited Mon Nov 17 9:13:00 PST 2003 by SquirrelMeat] . | |
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DigitalLisa said: I think some people believe they have a right to do this, because of their lack of respect for religion, but my question is, if you are a atheist who ridicules Christians (or any other religion) for believing then , what makes you so different from the religious leaders who ridicules others 4 living a alternative lifestyle?
I get your point, and I agree, every faith should be respected. But atheism should be respected by the believers as well. But it isnt. Some non-believers laugh at believers. But some believers are openly declaring the non-believers as devils and wish them torture and eternity in hell. I wonder whats worth... There is always two sides to it, ya know.. "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" ![]() | |
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soulpower said: DigitalLisa said: I think some people believe they have a right to do this, because of their lack of respect for religion, but my question is, if you are a atheist who ridicules Christians (or any other religion) for believing then , what makes you so different from the religious leaders who ridicules others 4 living a alternative lifestyle?
I get your point, and I agree, every faith should be respected. But atheism should be respected by the believers as well. But it isnt. Some non-believers laugh at believers. But some believers are openly declaring the non-believers as devils and wish them torture and eternity in hell. I wonder whats worth... There is always two sides to it, ya know.. yeah I know ... which is the point I'm trying to make. | |
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SquirrelMeat said: Because athiests don't go around starting wars in the name of imaginary characters.
Religions do. Thats the difference. correction... it's the republicans but democrates aren't really that different either [This message was edited Mon Nov 17 9:25:30 PST 2003 by DigitalLisa] | |
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SquirrelMeat said: mdiver said: SquirrelMeat said: Because athiests don't go around starting wars in the name of imaginary characters.
Religions do. Thats the difference. No they have proper reasons like money or oil Actually, athiest couldn't claim exclusivity on that one. Religions want a piece of that too. Reverend George Bush is a good expample. . [This message was edited Mon Nov 17 9:13:00 PST 2003 by SquirrelMeat] Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path and leave a trail
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You're being fooled if you think republicans and the religious-right are the only ones involved in this globalist agenda.
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Jasziah said: You're being fooled if you think republicans and the religious-right are the only ones involved in this globalist agenda.
Also, be careful not to stereotype all people who follow a religion. It's really a shame what people have done in the name of religion, but if we look at the life of Jesus, he done none of those things. That's who I follow. Peace. true | |
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DigitalLisa said: Jasziah said: You're being fooled if you think republicans and the religious-right are the only ones involved in this globalist agenda.
Also, be careful not to stereotype all people who follow a religion. It's really a shame what people have done in the name of religion, but if we look at the life of Jesus, he done none of those things. That's who I follow. Peace. true can I ask a question...whats a republican? And isnt what u just said the same as what squirrel meat said, just in different words.? Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path and leave a trail
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butter said: DigitalLisa said: Jasziah said: You're being fooled if you think republicans and the religious-right are the only ones involved in this globalist agenda.
Also, be careful not to stereotype all people who follow a religion. It's really a shame what people have done in the name of religion, but if we look at the life of Jesus, he done none of those things. That's who I follow. Peace. true can I ask a question...whats a republican? And isnt what u just said the same as what squirrel meat said, just in different words.? How can I explain this ? A republican is just a bunch of conservatives who likes 2 rule over the less unfornate... in other words democrats or liberals as some people like 2 call them political edit [This message was edited Mon Nov 17 11:01:23 PST 2003 by DigitalLisa] | |
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DigitalLisa said: butter said: DigitalLisa said: Jasziah said: You're being fooled if you think republicans and the religious-right are the only ones involved in this globalist agenda.
Also, be careful not to stereotype all people who follow a religion. It's really a shame what people have done in the name of religion, but if we look at the life of Jesus, he done none of those things. That's who I follow. Peace. true can I ask a question...whats a republican? And isnt what u just said the same as what squirrel meat said, just in different words.? How can I explain this ? A republican is just a bunch of conservatives who likes 2 rule over the less unfornate... in other words democrats or liberals as some people like 2 call them political edit [This message was edited Mon Nov 17 11:01:23 PST 2003 by DigitalLisa] Just another greedy politician then?? Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path and leave a trail
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Actually, I believe atheism is a belief unto itself. Just like Neo said, "the problem is choice." We can choose to believe in God, or not to believe in him. Some on this board have advocated their non-beliefs with near-evangelical fervor. I think that, like evangelicals, atheists believe that they have found the "truth" and will shout it out so that others can know.
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namepeace said: Actually, I believe atheism is a belief unto itself. Just like Neo said, "the problem is choice." We can choose to believe in God, or not to believe in him. Some on this board have advocated their non-beliefs with near-evangelical fervor. I think that, like evangelicals, atheists believe that they have found the "truth" and will shout it out so that others can know.
Atheists on this board are, indeed, quite religious. agree'd | |
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DigitalLisa said: I don't have a problem with folks who choose not believe, because you have a right to choose to believe in whatever you want. It's all on you, but what I do have a problem with those who choose not to believe and they feel as if they have a right to disrespect & ridicule those who choose to believe. I've seen it many done many times on this site. I think some people believe they have a right to do this, because of their lack of respect for religion, but my question is, if you are a atheist who ridicules Christians (or any other religion) for believing then , what makes you so different from the religious leaders who ridicules others 4 living a alternative lifestyle? See What I’m saying ?
Conclusion, respect comes from both end, rather you choose to believe or not and just because you don’t believe, there still is a such thing of knowing the difference between wrong & right. deep edit [This message was edited Mon Nov 17 8:11:58 PST 2003 by DigitalLisa] Very good point, DigitalLisa. ________________
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talmuzic said: sometimes words can be cast to the swine
and the swine would be...? What happened to treat thy neighbour... turning the other cheek or How about practicing what you preach? Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path and leave a trail
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Butter,only a hit dog will holler... | |
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talmuzic said: Butter,only a hit dog will holler...
If a dog can holler then it must be pretty talented. Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path and leave a trail
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I have no problem with believers who respect non-believers. I can't stand those who say what they believe is FACT, cuz they're too afraid they won't sound confident about their faith if they say they BELIEVE. They're all in fear of pissing off their God. When people follow religions, they're just following ancient ideas and stories. Why accept that as fact? I guess that'll continue until the real truth is revealed. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: I have no problem with believers who respect non-believers. I can't stand those who say what they believe is FACT, cuz they're too afraid they won't sound confident about their faith if they say they BELIEVE. They're all in fear of pissing off their God. When people follow religions, they're just following ancient ideas and stories. Why accept that as fact? I guess that'll continue until the real truth is revealed.
EWM, I respect your choice tho I have made a different one. I firmly believe that none of us have it 100% right. And the last 6 words of your post constitute the biggest mystery of all. Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder | |
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Tal, I've posted elsewhere that I neither believe nor disbelieve as I have not seen any proof, so I am pretty open to debate when it comes to discussing it. I've also said that I respect believers and that religion intrigues me...learning about other peoples beliefs and cultures rids society of ignorance from which things like bullying, racism etc stem from...education is the key.
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namepeace said: Actually, I believe atheism is a belief unto itself. Just like Neo said, "the problem is choice." We can choose to believe in God, or not to believe in him. Some on this board have advocated their non-beliefs with near-evangelical fervor. I think that, like evangelicals, atheists believe that they have found the "truth" and will shout it out so that others can know.
Atheists on this board are, indeed, quite religious. Boy do I agree with this!!! The body of beliefs a person adheres to IS his religion. So atheist have their beliefs and do expound them to others... One thing we all hold in common is the NEED TO FIND ANSWERS. Different people look to different sources. No one is BORN with his body of beliefs in tact. So no matter whether one is an athiest or a theist, he has built his faith on what SOMEBODY told him or SOMETHING he read. So there is no room for boasting on either side. Again it comes down to what one chooses to believe. I have noticed that many choose as if he were at a "buffet of life". Whatever suits his personal lifestyle. Whatever pleases himself. I personally search for something that makes me a better person. I find the teachings of Jesus Christ make me a better person, more in touch with the feelings of others, more concerned about others. When I say "better person", I don't mean better than other people... but better than I, myself, would be without those teachings. I also find the ring of truth to what Jesus says. MelodySo...how's everybody doing? | |
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butter said: Tal, I've posted elsewhere that I neither believe nor disbelieve as I have not seen any proof, so I am pretty open to debate when it comes to discussing it. I've also said that I respect believers and that religion intrigues me...learning about other peoples beliefs and cultures rids society of ignorance from which things like bullying, racism etc stem from...education is the key.
If you regard your self as a child of god...then damn you had a shitty upbringing and I don't wanna be a part of your family if being part of it is gonna make me show animosity towards others with differing beliefs...which to me is no different to racism, homophobia etc I like the poem u posted. I will save it...very nice message... MelodySo...how's everybody doing? | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: I have no problem with believers who respect non-believers. I can't stand those who say what they believe is FACT, cuz they're too afraid they won't sound confident about their faith if they say they BELIEVE. They're all in fear of pissing off their God. When people follow religions, they're just following ancient ideas and stories. Why accept that as fact? I guess that'll continue until the real truth is revealed.
U R right, in my opinion...lol Even the Bible leaves room for further enlightenment... It itself says that some things are left unknown ...until the appointed time for understanding... so no one has room to boast that he is all-knowing. At least no human. I agree that we should all keep learning...until our last breath... which is really why people have so many questions...because we are mortal, and the wisest and richest among us die just as the simplest and poorest. The mortality thing is just so hard to figure...why must we die? Hence the search for satisfying answers. MelodySo...how's everybody doing? | |
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