Adoption, religion, and race.

Should race matter when it comes to adoption?
Does it strip a child of his/her identity if they are adopted by parents of another race or even religious background? Not just black to white and vice versa..for example Angelina Jolie ( ) adopted a Cambodian child, and I believe Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman adopted a black child. Celebrites usually have money and the clout to do this. That is not to say they are any less compassionate about parenting or that they are just using it to boost a career or reach a larger fan base. Anyway, I was curious to know what every here thought. I would someday love to adopt children of all races. Josephine Baker is a perfect example. Would you adopt a child out of your race, or yourself adopted by parents of a different race? Thanks!

not sure if this topic has been previously posted

i would have no problem adopting a child of another race. the idea of racial differences is one that was created by man, so i don't see any difference at all. i do not believe that your identity is in your race but rather in who you become and what your experiences have been.

The ability to offer a child

Stability and Love is all that should count

I would one day love to adopt a child

Race wouldnt be an issue for me

And of course whatever race the child is

I would teach him or her about their heritage and history

But until the law changes I will keep on wishing

Much love Pochacco

Very well put Pochacco and imnotsayingthis.

This is already too PC, so let me un-PC it for you. I feel a black person can adopt any race they want and I feel white people should only adopt white children. I think parents of any other race should only adopt outside of theire race if they are married to or are in a relationship with a person of that particular race they are adopting. It unnerves me when I see back children with white parents. I wonder how a white man is going to teach his black son how to be and what it is to be a black man in America?

...I can feel the flames comin'! lol...

Janfriend said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Janfriend said:

Janfriend said
minorities are exposed to white culture on a daily basis. A white child raised by a minority parent won't have any problems knowing his/her culture or what it is to be white.

what IS white culture?

There are tons white people who live in all white neighborhoods with no exposure to other cultures and races, so I have no problem having as many white children as possible being raised by minorities.

there are tons of black people who live in all black neighborhoods (and go to all black schools) with no exposure to other cutlures and races. and don't say t.v. and music because i have black friends who've never heard of a lot of the people i listen to and have no idea about most of the tv shows i watch.

On the other hand, I have seen the outcome of a few black people raised by white parents and it was really sad. They have no clue what they are. Culture and race is important.

i didn't realize that race determined what you are. i think that is a far more dangerous idea than white people raising black kids.

We can all love one another and appreciate our differences. If you really don't see a difference between the races, if you don't see the difference between black and white history and culture then you bought into that "One love" bullshit a little too much.

i see differences that MAN has made, not race. and the majority of those differences are here, in america. maybe because i was raised in an interracial environment i can see things differently

Did you see "Losing Isaiah"

no, it must be a "black" movie, huh?

therefore the little boy has no one in his life to look at that looks like him, to tell him "In this country, this is what you go through just because of your color and I've gone through it."

only because people hold on to the anger and the past. there could also be huge amounts of anger in Africa due to slavery but people have embraced the future and, while not forgetting the past, they have LEARNED from the past and benefitted from it.

Who is he gonna to run to when someone calls him a nigger or a coon?

his parents, who love him

Sure, the parents will be outraged, but they'll never fully know what he's going through

but they will understand what they are going through because racism hurts parents too. they will comfort the child and teach him that some people are ignorant and never learn.
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MaryD said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Janfriend said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Janfriend said
minorities are exposed to white culture on a daily basis. A white child raised by a minority parent won't have any problems knowing his/her culture or what it is to be white.

what IS white culture?

Standard American Culture. You know what I'm talking about, don't be stupid

There are tons white people who live in all white neighborhoods with no exposure to other cultures and races, so I have no problem having as many white children as possible being raised by minorities.

there are tons of black people who live in all black neighborhoods (and go to all black schools) with no exposure to other cutlures and races. and don't say t.v. and music because i have black friends who've never heard of a lot of the people i listen to and have no idea about most of the tv shows i watch.

What history do you think they're learning in their all black school? It's not black history. They're exposed to white people everyday. There are only a handful of black shows on t.v. and they know who and what you're talking about they just choose not to listen or watch what you're talking about because it is important to not assimilate and hold on to your identity as much as possible. I know about "Friends" and "Seinfeld" but I choose not to watch because I refuse to watch something where they don't inlude my people whereas black shows are required to include at least 1 white person in their show

On the other hand, I have seen the outcome of a few black people raised by white parents and it was really sad. They have no clue what they are. Culture and race is important.

i didn't realize that race determined what you are. i think that is a far more dangerous idea than white people raising black kids.

Are you white? Only a white person would say that when they want assimilation. You can be whatever you want to be, but you have a heritage and culture that has to do with your race

We can all love one another and appreciate our differences. If you really don't see a difference between the races, if you don't see the difference between black and white history and culture then you bought into that "One love" bullshit a little too much.

i see differences that MAN has made, not race. and the majority of those differences are here, in america. maybe because i was raised in an interracial environment i can see things differently

OMG, I'm sure my hair, lips, and nose are extremely different from yours and that has nothing to do with what MAN has made. I was raised in an interracial enviroment too. Actually I was raised in a neighborhood that was all white except for us and another family on the block. My best friends and the kids I went to school with were white, but I came home to a black family that helped me form my identity as a black woman, filled me with the rich history of my people, and helped me understand what it meant to be an American of African descent in a white-runned country. Good parents are good parents no matter what race they are, but I do not think a white family would have raised me with the same dynamic as my black family did

Did you see "Losing Isaiah"

no, it must be a "black" movie, huh?

I don't get the purpose of this comment. I was simply asking if you saw the movie

therefore the little boy has no one in his life to look at that looks like him, to tell him "In this country, this is what you go through just because of your color and I've gone through it."

only because people hold on to the anger and the past. there could also be huge amounts of anger in Africa due to slavery but people have embraced the future and, while not forgetting the past, they have LEARNED from the past and benefitted from it.

Who's angry? I still experience racism from white people. Africans (in general) are stupid. They were stupid enough to let their people be captured and taken away and they're stupid enough to not take their land back and to keep killing each other like they do

Who is he gonna to run to when someone calls him a nigger or a coon?

his parents, who love him

If he's at an age where he realizes his parents are white and it's a white person calling him that, he may just choose to not tell them

Sure, the parents will be outraged, but they'll never fully know what he's going through

but they will understand what they are going through because racism hurts parents too. they will comfort the child and teach him that some people are ignorant and never learn.

Well my mom taught me to be careful what I say to white people because I might end up lynched. It was just a COUPLE OF YEARS AGO that black man (can't remember his name) was dragged on the back of a pick-up truck, by white men, until he was dismembered. What are white parents going to tell their black child about that? Are they going to tell him about the history of hatred and their own personal experiences of racism against them? No, they'll probably try to keep it from him or just say "people are stupid." That won't help him deal with racism when he experiences it for himself

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Janfriend said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Janfriend said
minorities are exposed to white culture on a daily basis. A white child raised by a minority parent won't have any problems knowing his/her culture or what it is to be white.

what IS white culture?

Standard American Culture. You know what I'm talking about, don't be stupid

There are tons white people who live in all white neighborhoods with no exposure to other cultures and races, so I have no problem having as many white children as possible being raised by minorities.

there are tons of black people who live in all black neighborhoods (and go to all black schools) with no exposure to other cutlures and races. and don't say t.v. and music because i have black friends who've never heard of a lot of the people i listen to and have no idea about most of the tv shows i watch.

What history do you think they're learning in their all black school? It's not black history. They're exposed to white people everyday. There are only a handful of black shows on t.v. and they know who and what you're talking about they just choose not to listen or watch what you're talking about because it is important to not assimilate and hold on to your identity as much as possible. I know about "Friends" and "Seinfeld" but I choose not to watch because I refuse to watch something where they don't inlude my people whereas black shows are required to include at least 1 white person in their show

On the other hand, I have seen the outcome of a few black people raised by white parents and it was really sad. They have no clue what they are. Culture and race is important.

i didn't realize that race determined what you are. i think that is a far more dangerous idea than white people raising black kids.

Are you white? Only a white person would say that when they want assimilation. You can be whatever you want to be, but you have a heritage and culture that has to do with your race

We can all love one another and appreciate our differences. If you really don't see a difference between the races, if you don't see the difference between black and white history and culture then you bought into that "One love" bullshit a little too much.

i see differences that MAN has made, not race. and the majority of those differences are here, in america. maybe because i was raised in an interracial environment i can see things differently

OMG, I'm sure my hair, lips, and nose are extremely different from yours and that has nothing to do with what MAN has made. I was raised in an interracial enviroment too. Actually I was raised in a neighborhood that was all white except for us and another family on the block. My best friends and the kids I went to school with were white, but I came home to a black family that helped me form my identity as a black woman, filled me with the rich history of my people, and helped me understand what it meant to be an American of African descent in a white-runned country. Good parents are good parents no matter what race they are, but I do not think a white family would have raised me with the same dynamic as my black family did

Did you see "Losing Isaiah"

no, it must be a "black" movie, huh?

I don't get the purpose of this comment. I was simply asking if you saw the movie

therefore the little boy has no one in his life to look at that looks like him, to tell him "In this country, this is what you go through just because of your color and I've gone through it."

only because people hold on to the anger and the past. there could also be huge amounts of anger in Africa due to slavery but people have embraced the future and, while not forgetting the past, they have LEARNED from the past and benefitted from it.

Who's angry? I still experience racism from white people. Africans (in general) are stupid. They were stupid enough to let their people be captured and taken away and they're stupid enough to not take their land back and to keep killing each other like they do

Who is he gonna to run to when someone calls him a nigger or a coon?

his parents, who love him

If he's at an age where he realizes his parents are white and it's a white person calling him that, he may just choose to not tell them

Sure, the parents will be outraged, but they'll never fully know what he's going through

but they will understand what they are going through because racism hurts parents too. they will comfort the child and teach him that some people are ignorant and never learn.

Well my mom taught me to be careful what I say to white people because I might end up lynched. It was just a COUPLE OF YEARS AGO that black man (can't remember his name) was dragged on the back of a pick-up truck, by white men, until he was dismembered. What are white parents going to tell their black child about that? Are they going to tell him about the history of hatred and their own personal experiences of racism against them? No, they'll probably try to keep it from him or just say "people are stupid." That won't help him deal with racism when he experiences it for himself

i started out replying to this but then i thought why are you trying to change someone else's mind? this person already has this opinion and you're not prepared to change her mind. i'm truly sorry that you feel this way. i personally think it is a racist stance. if i were to say black people should stick with black people and whites with whites, i would be labeled a racist for sure. i don't see the difference here. i can usually say i respect someone else's opinion but i just can't even say that here. i am of mixed ethnicity and have experienced prejudicial situations. no, not white on black prejudice, but prejudice just the same. it is unavoidable, regardless of race, ethnicity or sex. there will always be rude people who do not know anything better. the solution is NOT further segregation and seperation. my mother taught me to respect all individuals. she didn't just teach me with words, she showed me with her actions. she wasn't a black woman but she still taught me to respect ALL races. i just don't see the problem with whites raising black kids. chances are, if you are a white person adopting black children, you have some kind of connection to the black community. whether it be your neighborhood, your family, your friends, or whatever. in other words, the Wallingfords in Iowa are not going to adopt a black child. i could not imagine someone with no black friends adopting a black child. but you go on with your opinions, i'm a nobody in the big scheme of things. i just hope the majority of people out there don't share your feelings. because, if they do, race will continue to be a problem in america.

The problem with all these child related issues (relegion, adoption, madical operations etc) is that it should be the baby's choice, unfortunatly a baby can't choose for itself.

It's therefore up to the adults involved to make the right choice for the infent.

If I had to adopt I would have no problem adopting any child regardless of its race or sex (although I would be like it to be a healthy baby, I personally don't think I could cope with the responciblilty of caring for a child that needs constant medical attention), and like me I'd raise them to be catholic but if they wanted to change their religous belifes when they are old enough to make up there own minds I would respect their wishes.

If I had to adopt a child of mine I would not care about the race of the familly as long as I know they would give my child a lot of love. If they feel loved they would never feel out of place!

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Janfriend said:

I agree with Janfriend . . . to a point.


From a cultural, social standpoint, black children require a nurturing environment that prepares them to be "racially aware," because unfortunately, people still view other people through the prism of race. A child that lacks the coping skills to deal with these racial issues will suffer to some extent, and black parents are better equipped to provide those skills, if for no other reason than personal experience.

That being said, from a pragmatic standpoint, I would rather see black children be adopted into a loving, stable family regardless of race than remain a ward of the state. A child should never languish as a state ward to prevent them from growing up "white." That's inane logic and stupid policy. There are ways for white parents to ameliorate the cultural differences, but lose a child in the state system and it's possible they're lost forever. I can deal with a "whitened" black child so long as they're healthy, wealthy and enabled to succeed in society.

And, let's be real here, based on some of my contemporaries, some black parents have failed to raise racially aware children. But I digress.

namepeace said:

I agree with Janfriend . . . to a point.


From a cultural, social standpoint, black children require a nurturing environment that prepares them to be "racially aware," because unfortunately, people still view other people through the prism of race. A child that lacks the coping skills to deal with these racial issues will suffer to some extent, and black parents are better equipped to provide those skills, if for no other reason than personal experience.

That being said, from a pragmatic standpoint, I would rather see black children be adopted into a loving, stable family regardless of race than remain a ward of the state. A child should never languish as a state ward to prevent them from growing up "white." That's inane logic and stupid policy. There are ways for white parents to ameliorate the cultural differences, but lose a child in the state system and it's possible they're lost forever. I can deal with a "whitened" black child so long as they're healthy, wealthy and enabled to succeed in society.

And, let's be real here, based on some of my contemporaries, some black parents have failed to raise racially aware children. But I digress.

namepeace said:

I agree with Janfriend . . . to a point.


From a cultural, social standpoint, black children require a nurturing environment that prepares them to be "racially aware," because unfortunately, people still view other people through the prism of race. A child that lacks the coping skills to deal with these racial issues will suffer to some extent, and black parents are better equipped to provide those skills, if for no other reason than personal experience.

That being said, from a pragmatic standpoint, I would rather see black children be adopted into a loving, stable family regardless of race than remain a ward of the state. A child should never languish as a state ward to prevent them from growing up "white." That's inane logic and stupid policy. There are ways for white parents to ameliorate the cultural differences, but lose a child in the state system and it's possible they're lost forever. I can deal with a "whitened" black child so long as they're healthy, wealthy and enabled to succeed in society.

And, let's be real here, based on some of my contemporaries, some black parents have failed to raise racially aware children. But I digress.