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IanRG

Vale Bob Hawke

Bob Hawke, Prime Minister of Australia from March 1983 to December 1991 died today. He was the third longest serving PM and the longest from his side of politics.

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He will be missed by many from all sides of politics because, unlike so many politicians today, he spoke and served for all, not just for his side.

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Reply #1 posted 05/18/19 9:28am

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I read this about him. Don't know if you consider it a good source or not. Says he ensured a universal healthcare system, among other protections. That he loved ordinary citizens and they loved him back.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/05/17/bob-hawke-obituary/

Vale Bob, co-founder of 21st-century Australia

You can divide Australian life into before Bob and after Bob. He was a unique politician who, with Paul Keating, created modern Australia.


Wondering what you think about newly elected Prime Minister Morrison? As I said, I know nothing about your politics but I read this short piece.

Australian Prime Minister Morrison's coalition surprisingly wins

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2019/05/18/Australian-Prime-Minister-Morrisons-coalition-surprisingly-wins/4161558188726/

[Edited 5/18/19 9:31am]

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Reply #2 posted 05/18/19 5:22pm

IanRG

poppys said:

rose

I read this about him. Don't know if you consider it a good source or not. Says he ensured a universal healthcare system, among other protections. That he loved ordinary citizens and they loved him back.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/05/17/bob-hawke-obituary/

Vale Bob, co-founder of 21st-century Australia

You can divide Australian life into before Bob and after Bob. He was a unique politician who, with Paul Keating, created modern Australia.


Wondering what you think about newly elected Prime Minister Morrison? As I said, I know nothing about your politics but I read this short piece.

Australian Prime Minister Morrison's coalition surprisingly wins

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2019/05/18/Australian-Prime-Minister-Morrisons-coalition-surprisingly-wins/4161558188726/

[Edited 5/18/19 9:31am]

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Crikey is one of my clients. As a source it is left leaning and popularist. It is one of our first and most successful online media outlets.

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In regards to ScoMo's (Scott Morrison's) victory: It is a shock and another failure of polling akin to Brexit and Trump - all the polls said ScoMo was going to lose and the question was only by how much. Since 2007 we have had 7 Prime Ministers with both major parties deliberately undermining leaders from their own party. This election was between the key "faceless" man (Shorten) from the ALP who undermined the ALP Prime Ministers and the "soft" Right Prime Minister (ScoMo) selected in the last leadership spill in LNP when the Conservatives and Moderates could not stop undermining each other's faction. Had Hawke' ALP had a different leader, I think they would have won.

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Reply #3 posted 05/18/19 5:57pm

poppys

IanRG said:

poppys said:

rose

I read this about him. Don't know if you consider it a good source or not. Says he ensured a universal healthcare system, among other protections. That he loved ordinary citizens and they loved him back.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/05/17/bob-hawke-obituary/

Vale Bob, co-founder of 21st-century Australia

You can divide Australian life into before Bob and after Bob. He was a unique politician who, with Paul Keating, created modern Australia.


Wondering what you think about newly elected Prime Minister Morrison? As I said, I know nothing about your politics but I read this short piece.

Australian Prime Minister Morrison's coalition surprisingly wins

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2019/05/18/Australian-Prime-Minister-Morrisons-coalition-surprisingly-wins/4161558188726/

.

Crikey is one of my clients. As a source it is left leaning and popularist. It is one of our first and most successful online media outlets.

.

In regards to ScoMo's (Scott Morrison's) victory: It is a shock and another failure of polling akin to Brexit and Trump - all the polls said ScoMo was going to lose and the question was only by how much. Since 2007 we have had 7 Prime Ministers with both major parties deliberately undermining leaders from their own party. This election was between the key "faceless" man (Shorten) from the ALP who undermined the ALP Prime Ministers and the "soft" Right Prime Minister (ScoMo) selected in the last leadership spill in LNP when the Conservatives and Moderates could not stop undermining each other's faction. Had Hawke' ALP had a different leader, I think they would have won.


Seven PM's in 12 years seems like a lot. All that undermining can't be good for the electorate. Interesting that accurate polling appears to be a thing of the past worldwide these days.

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