independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Fri 22nd Mar 2019 3:46pm
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Politics & Religion > UPDATE: Police say 4 in custody after deadly attacks on New Zealand mosques
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 3 of 6 <123456>
Reply   New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #60 posted 03/15/19 4:12pm

SuperFurryAnim
al

avatar

JoeyC said:

2elijah said:

JoeyC said: Just horrible. I agree I don’t think trump, many of his supporters who cheer his racist and divisive rhetoric, give a damn about the Muslims who were murdered. He constantly spews hatred and lies about them being the ones causing attacks here, yet the truth is, it’s American-born citizens responsible for America’s crimes, and domestic attacks. He’s using immigrants and Muslims as scapegoats to push his political agenda, and using the immigration issue and lies sbout Muslims, to hide his fear of the browning of America. That’s the real reason he’s pushing the immigration issue. He’s really becoming a threat to America and sending themessage of hate around the globe.


Yes. And it's insane to think that he's only been in office for less than 3 years. God forbid that he serves 8....Damn. disbelief

JoeyC we will remind people that Baltimore, St Louis almost burned to the ground like LA did and we will showcase who was in office (in each case) and will expose extremist groups trying to tear America apart when the time is right. This attack had nothing to do with Trump. You people trying to state Trump is connected to the attack are sick individuals. ISIS/Bin Laden was funded by our own Gov't and remember that and that is the reason why many people see Muslims as extremists.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #61 posted 03/15/19 4:20pm

SuperFurryAnim
al

avatar

It is that simple. If some extremists see all Muslims as ISIS/extremists the idiot leaders that funded ISIS/islamic terror groups and staged 9-11 are to blame if you believe in cause and effect. Trump is dealing with the aftermath.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #62 posted 03/15/19 4:37pm

PennyPurple

avatar

SuperFurryAnimal said:

It is that simple. If some extremists see all Muslims as ISIS/extremists the idiot leaders that funded ISIS/islamic terror groups and staged 9-11 are to blame if you believe in cause and effect. Trump is dealing with the aftermath.

Furry, STOP.

Extremists see everyone that doesn't look like them or think like them as the enemy. Trump is NOT dealing with the aftermath, Trump is helping to cause it.


Trump is so damned worried about our Southern Border, he doesn't give a shit that shootings are happening every.single.day here in the US. If Trump wants to do something for the American people, then let's start addressing the gun control issue. Trump hasn't done anything but sit on his ass and nothing has changed in this country since the Parkland shootings. And that's a damn shame.

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #63 posted 03/15/19 4:57pm

luv4u

Moderator

avatar

moderator

lurking

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #64 posted 03/15/19 5:02pm

SuperFurryAnim
al

avatar

PennyPurple said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

It is that simple. If some extremists see all Muslims as ISIS/extremists the idiot leaders that funded ISIS/islamic terror groups and staged 9-11 are to blame if you believe in cause and effect. Trump is dealing with the aftermath.

Furry, STOP.

Extremists see everyone that doesn't look like them or think like them as the enemy. Trump is NOT dealing with the aftermath, Trump is helping to cause it.


Trump is so damned worried about our Southern Border, he doesn't give a shit that shootings are happening every.single.day here in the US. If Trump wants to do something for the American people, then let's start addressing the gun control issue. Trump hasn't done anything but sit on his ass and nothing has changed in this country since the Parkland shootings. And that's a damn shame.

It is the Truth, the US Gov't funded the Islamic extremists and the media pushed the agenda after 9-11 and every attack that followed. That is not Trump's work. When they allowed ISIS to operated on Facebook and Twitter during the Obama Administration it was clear they wanted to keep ISIS around for a reason.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #65 posted 03/15/19 5:07pm

2elijah

avatar

Can we keep this thread on topic and stop derailing it? It’s always the same orger doing that. Mods please help keep it on track.

49 people are dead because some racist, insecure idiot, followed the false ideology of white supremacy and murdered them. Let’s think about the families who lost their loved ones. He was so hateful, he killed a 3 year old in that massacre.
[Edited 3/15/19 17:13pm]
FEARLESS
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #66 posted 03/15/19 5:26pm

luv4u

Moderator

avatar

moderator

SuperFurryAnimal said:

PennyPurple said:

Furry, STOP.

Extremists see everyone that doesn't look like them or think like them as the enemy. Trump is NOT dealing with the aftermath, Trump is helping to cause it.


Trump is so damned worried about our Southern Border, he doesn't give a shit that shootings are happening every.single.day here in the US. If Trump wants to do something for the American people, then let's start addressing the gun control issue. Trump hasn't done anything but sit on his ass and nothing has changed in this country since the Parkland shootings. And that's a damn shame.

It is the Truth, the US Gov't funded the Islamic extremists and the media pushed the agenda after 9-11 and every attack that followed. That is not Trump's work. When they allowed ISIS to operated on Facebook and Twitter during the Obama Administration it was clear they wanted to keep ISIS around for a reason.


Super, You want to discuss 9-11 or ISIS....... go and start a new thread.


KEEP THIS THREAD ON TOPIC, please. biggrin

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #67 posted 03/15/19 5:30pm

SuperFurryAnim
al

avatar

2elijah said:

Can we keep this thread on topic and stop derailing it? It’s always the same orger doing that. Mods please help keep it on track. 49 people are dead because some racist, insecure idiot, followed the false ideology of white supremacy and murdered them. Let’s think about the families who lost their loved ones. He was so hateful, he killed a 3 year old in that massacre. [Edited 3/15/19 17:13pm]

I have a point 2E, like it or not they really pushed the fear of ISIS/Islamic extremists for a good 15+ years, much of the media coverage didn't help Muslims a damn bit it helped to create more racism simply they have an agenda. Blame?? the politicians that funded ISIS and propped up that monster. You need to sit down at look at the evidence surrounding 9-11 and realize the gov't lied to us.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #68 posted 03/15/19 5:32pm

SuperFurryAnim
al

avatar

luv4u said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

It is the Truth, the US Gov't funded the Islamic extremists and the media pushed the agenda after 9-11 and every attack that followed. That is not Trump's work. When they allowed ISIS to operated on Facebook and Twitter during the Obama Administration it was clear they wanted to keep ISIS around for a reason.


Super, You want to discuss 9-11 or ISIS....... go and start a new thread.


KEEP THIS THREAD ON TOPIC, please. biggrin

Ok, but you do realize this has to do with anger towards Muslims and that has little to do with the border policy or Trump The previous Presidents pushed the ISIS fear on us for 15+ years. That is the reality and the US Gov funded and allowed extremists to operate. All fact.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #69 posted 03/15/19 5:36pm

2elijah

avatar

Definitely needed.



https://www-m.cnn.com/201...cnn.com%2F

New Zealand Prime Minister says, 'Our gun laws will change'

By Lianne Kolirin, CNN

Updated at 7:42 PM ET, Fri March 15, 2019



CNN) — “New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said Saturday morning that "our gun laws will change" following the mass shooting at two Christchurch mosques that left 49 people dead.
"There were five guns used by the primary perpetrator," she said at a news conference in Wellington. "There were two semi-automatic weapons and two shotguns. The offender was in possession of a gun license. I'm advised this was acquired in November of 2017. A lever-action firearm was also found."
She said the suspect, identified as Brenton Tarrant, obtained a gun license in November 2017 and began purchasing guns legally in December 2017.
"While work is being done as to the chain of events that lead to both the holding of this gun license and the possession of these weapons, I can tell you one thing right now. Our gun laws will change." Ardern said.”

(Click on link to continue reading)
FEARLESS
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #70 posted 03/15/19 5:41pm

luv4u

Moderator

avatar

moderator

SuperFurryAnimal said:

2elijah said:

Can we keep this thread on topic and stop derailing it? It’s always the same orger doing that. Mods please help keep it on track. 49 people are dead because some racist, insecure idiot, followed the false ideology of white supremacy and murdered them. Let’s think about the families who lost their loved ones. He was so hateful, he killed a 3 year old in that massacre. [Edited 3/15/19 17:13pm]

I have a point 2E, like it or not they really pushed the fear of ISIS/Islamic extremists for a good 15+ years, much of the media coverage didn't help Muslims a damn bit it helped to create more racism simply they have an agenda. Blame?? the politicians that funded ISIS and propped up that monster. You need to sit down at look at the evidence surrounding 9-11 and realize the gov't lied to us.


If that is what you claim by all means feel free to discuss 9-11 then create a new thread cool

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #71 posted 03/15/19 5:43pm

2elijah

avatar

https://www-m.cnn.com/201...cnn.com%2F

FBI saw uptick in domestic terror arrests

By Josh Campbell, CNN Law Enforcement Analyst

Updated at 7:32 PM ET, Fri March 15, 2019


The last few months of 2018 saw an uptick in domestic terror arrests compared to some other quarters in recent years, a senior FBI official told CNN.

Nearly 25 were arrested over the last three months of 2018, said the official, citing the most recent data available.
However, when looking at yearly numbers, the FBI noted that in fiscal year 2018 -- from October 2017 to October 2018 -- it arrested 120 domestic terror suspects, and 150 the year before.

The domestic terror arrests include but are not limited to far right/white nationalists. The official did not provide an explanation for the increase in that quarter.


The FBI says it has approximately 900 open domestic terror investigations.
These are separate from international terrorism investigations, which, for example, involve plots related to ISIS and al Qaeda, including so-called "lone wolf attacks." Overall the FBI says it has some 5,000 open terrorism investigations around the world, including those domestic terrorism investigations, with the rest related to international terrorism.


Notably, there are not domestic terror statutes in the US that allow for specific domestic terror charges. Prosecutors use other violations -- such as of weapons possession laws -- to charge people accused of plotting domestic terror attacks. Recently, a Coast Guard officer accused of seeking to kill politicians and journalists was charged with firearms and drug violations. And last year, a man espousing anti-Semitic views opened fire on a synagogue in Pittsburgh.

(Click on link to continue reading)
FEARLESS
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #72 posted 03/15/19 5:49pm

2elijah

avatar

JoeyC said:



2elijah said:


JoeyC said:



Without a doubt. And prayers and positive thoughts for the victims and their families.



Just horrible. I agree I don’t think trump, many of his supporters who cheer his racist and divisive rhetoric, give a damn about the Muslims who were murdered. He constantly spews hatred and lies about them being the ones causing attacks here, yet the truth is, it’s American-born citizens responsible for America’s crimes, and domestic attacks. He’s using immigrants and Muslims as scapegoats to push his political agenda, and using the immigration issue and lies sbout Muslims, to hide his fear of the browning of America. That’s the real reason he’s pushing the immigration issue. He’s really becoming a threat to America and sending themessage of hate around the globe.


Yes. And it's insane to think that he's only been in office for less than 3 years. God forbid that he serves 8....Damn. disbelief


Yes, his racist and divisive rhetoric and lies about many immigrants, is definitely helping to radicalize extreme right-wingers.
FEARLESS
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #73 posted 03/15/19 5:50pm

nd33

2elijah said:

EmmaMcG said:



If a dog attacked and killed 49 people, it would be put down. I don't see why humans are treated any differently.

For mass murderers, I would support the death penalty, and I am not even a supporter of it, but stealing so many innocent lives on tha basis of a false ideology, then I’m for the death penalty in these type of tragedies. Why should tax payers pay to feed and house those type of sick animals, after they steal so many lives? Just sickening.


The death penalty has been debated many times and the facts are that:
* It is not cheaper than housing a prisoner for life (partly to do with the legal system)
* It is not a deterrent

We can argue philosophically about it, but those two points are covered.
Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #74 posted 03/15/19 5:56pm

2elijah

avatar

nd33 said:

2elijah said:


For mass murderers, I would support the death penalty, and I am not even a supporter of it, but stealing so many innocent lives on tha basis of a false ideology, then I’m for the death penalty in these type of tragedies. Why should tax payers pay to feed and house those type of sick animals, after they steal so many lives? Just sickening.


The death penalty has been debated many times and the facts are that:
* It is not cheaper than housing a prisoner for life (partly to do with the legal system)
* It is not a deterrent

We can argue philosophically about it, but those two points are covered.

Who questioned the cost? I’m saying tax payers shouldn’t have to pay to put these f*****s away for life, and give them a chance to live out their lives, when they stole so many lives. They just don’t deserve to have their lives spared is more of what I’m saying. That’s it.
[Edited 3/15/19 18:02pm]
FEARLESS
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #75 posted 03/15/19 6:10pm

2elijah

avatar

The only way to get rid of generational, white supremacy ideology, is that it has to be eradicated within the racial community it was born out of. The truth has to be taught that it’s a false ideology.
FEARLESS
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #76 posted 03/15/19 6:31pm

hausofmoi7

avatar

Politics and Foreign Policy

https://haasinstitute.ber...ign-policy


There is a growing body of literature that draws our attention to how Islamophobia is both shaping and being shaped by US domestic and foreign policy. With a particular focus on US politics following the September 11 attacks, a wide range of scholars have interrogated the politics of fear around Islam that has occupied the nation. These works focus on connecting anti-Muslim rhetoric in politics within a broader history of colonialism and anti-Muslim foreign policy decisions. A majority of the readings listed draw on the War on Terror and violent interventions in Muslim-majority countries, as well as support for regimes hostile towards Muslims such as the militarist Israeli government, as an extension of Islamophobic policies. In the context of the War on Terror, many scholars highlight how Islamophobic politics have been implemented in efforts to counter radicalization via “Countering Violent Extremism” (CVE) programs, which further discriminate against Muslims. Finally, key works trace the impact of anti-Muslim politics on general anti-immigrant, anti-refugee, and anti-Muslim attitudes around the US.
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #77 posted 03/15/19 6:35pm

hausofmoi7

avatar

THE CONNECTION BETWEEN WHITE MEN, AGGRIEVEMENT, AND MASS SHOOTINGS


Downward social mobility and scapegoating are inspiring white men to commit atrocities.


https://www.google.com.au...-shootings


Last month, two seemingly unrelated bits of news came to light. The first was that Nikolas Cruz had etched Nazi swastikas into the ammunition magazines he used in the school shooting that claimed 17 lives in Parkland, Florida. The second was that the United States' white jail population doubled from 1990 to 2013, according to analysis conducted by the Vera Institute of Justice, a research non-profit that studies the criminal justice system.
The thread that connects these two stories is aggrievement, and it offers a unique insight into the cause of mass shootings—at least 57 percent of which are committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. The perpetuation of these crimes is deeply entangled with both the actual and perceived downward mobility of white men, as well as their mistaken attribution of that decline to African Americans, feminists, immigrants, and other "boogeymen" of social justice movements.
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #78 posted 03/15/19 6:48pm

13cjk13

SuperFurryAnimal said:

13cjk13 said:

It's trump's fault. Pay attention.

Nonsense. America has zero to do with the attack. It shows how desperate the left is politically if they pin this onto Trump.

Newsflash .... TRUMP IS NOT AMERICA.

"Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost".
-Thomas Jefferson
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #79 posted 03/15/19 8:16pm

nd33

2elijah said:

nd33 said:



The death penalty has been debated many times and the facts are that:
* It is not cheaper than housing a prisoner for life (partly to do with the legal system)
* It is not a deterrent

We can argue philosophically about it, but those two points are covered.

Who questioned the cost? I’m saying tax payers shouldn’t have to pay to put these f*****s away for life, and give them a chance to live out their lives, when they stole so many lives. They just don’t deserve to have their lives spared is more of what I’m saying. That’s it.
[Edited 3/15/19 18:02pm]


But taxpayers would pay MORE for a death penalty system, than life imprisonment. So it is cost we’re talking about.

It sounds like you’re more interested in the concept of revenge?
Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #80 posted 03/15/19 9:06pm

2elijah

avatar

nd33 said:

2elijah said:


Who questioned the cost? I’m saying tax payers shouldn’t have to pay to put these f*****s away for life, and give them a chance to live out their lives, when they stole so many lives. They just don’t deserve to have their lives spared is more of what I’m saying. That’s it.
[Edited 3/15/19 18:02pm]


But taxpayers would pay MORE for a death penalty system, than life imprisonment. So it is cost we’re talking about.

It sounds like you’re more interested in the concept of revenge?

Once again, for taxpayers to have to pay period is what I’m talking about. I’d like to move on from this now. Thanks.
FEARLESS
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #81 posted 03/15/19 10:50pm

benni

avatar

SuperFurryAnimal said:

13cjk13 said:

It's trump's fault. Pay attention.

Nonsense. America has zero to do with the attack. It shows how desperate the left is politically if they pin this onto Trump.


The fact that Trump has not come out and explicitly condemned white supremacy, that he uses the rhetoric that white supremacits use, emboldens these individuals to believe that they have a powerful man (the president of the United States) supporting their ideology. It doesn't matter whether Trump believes in white supremacy or not, THEY believe he does. Trump has to come out with an extremely strong statement condemning white supremacy, that leaves no doubt in his statement, otherwise others will act believing that Trump is in their corner and that it is acceptable to act out on their hate.

Trump did not help matters today when within 20 minutes of sending out his sympathy to New Zealand, he signs the veto and starts talking about an "invasion", which are the SAME WORDS the murderer used in describing immigration. THAT is why these white supremacists believe they have a friend in Donald Trump, that he supports their cause. Words have consequences, and never has that been more evident than since Trump became president.

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #82 posted 03/15/19 10:53pm

DiminutiveRock
er

avatar

benni said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

13cjk13 said: Nonsense. America has zero to do with the attack. It shows how desperate the left is politically if they pin this onto Trump.


The fact that Trump has not come out and explicitly condemned white supremacy, that he uses the rhetoric that white supremacits use, emboldens these individuals to believe that they have a powerful man (the president of the United States) supporting their ideology. It doesn't matter whether Trump believes in white supremacy or not, THEY believe he does. Trump has to come out with an extremely strong statement condemning white supremacy, that leaves no doubt in his statement, otherwise others will act believing that Trump is in their corner and that it is acceptable to act out on their hate.

Trump did not help matters today when within 20 minutes of sending out his sympathy to New Zealand, he signs the veto and starts talking about an "invasion", which are the SAME WORDS the murderer used in describing immigration. THAT is why these white supremacists believe they have a friend in Donald Trump, that he supports their cause. Words have consequences, and never has that been more evident than since Trump became president.


yeahthat Bingo

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #83 posted 03/15/19 11:10pm

nd33

United States President Donald Trump offered New Zealand support this morning in a phone conversation he had with Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.

He very much wished for his condolences to be passed on to New Zealand, she said at a press briefing.

She said he had also asked what offer of support the United States could provide.

"My message was: sympathy and love for all Muslim communities."

Asked what Trump's response had been she said: "He acknowledged that and agreed."
"He asked what he could do and I simply conveyed I think the sentiment that exists here in New Zealand.”
Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #84 posted 03/16/19 12:40am

maplenpg

avatar

2elijah said:

Definitely needed. https://www-m.cnn.com/201...cnn.com%2F New Zealand Prime Minister says, 'Our gun laws will change' By Lianne Kolirin, CNN Updated at 7:42 PM ET, Fri March 15, 2019 CNN) — “New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said Saturday morning that "our gun laws will change" following the mass shooting at two Christchurch mosques that left 49 people dead. "There were five guns used by the primary perpetrator," she said at a news conference in Wellington. "There were two semi-automatic weapons and two shotguns. The offender was in possession of a gun license. I'm advised this was acquired in November of 2017. A lever-action firearm was also found." She said the suspect, identified as Brenton Tarrant, obtained a gun license in November 2017 and began purchasing guns legally in December 2017. "While work is being done as to the chain of events that lead to both the holding of this gun license and the possession of these weapons, I can tell you one thing right now. Our gun laws will change." Ardern said.” (Click on link to continue reading)

From what I've seen, I think Jacinda Ardern has handled the whole thing brilliantly, I really do.

If love is the answer, what was the question? - Carter USM.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #85 posted 03/16/19 1:00am

maplenpg

avatar

2elijah said:

nd33 said:
The death penalty has been debated many times and the facts are that: * It is not cheaper than housing a prisoner for life (partly to do with the legal system) * It is not a deterrent We can argue philosophically about it, but those two points are covered.
Who questioned the cost? I’m saying tax payers shouldn’t have to pay to put these f*****s away for life, and give them a chance to live out their lives, when they stole so many lives. They just don’t deserve to have their lives spared is more of what I’m saying. That’s it. [Edited 3/15/19 18:02pm]

He'll never set foot on free soil again. Please don't underestimate that he'll now have probably 50+ years ahead of him, following the same daily regime, without ever being able to do what he wants when he wants (unless his life is shortened by another prisoner, these people are less likely to commit suicide). And it is unlikely he'll ever be given some prisoner privileges such as the right to work etc... He will also almost certainly be segregated for some years, possibly decades. He will be unlikely to ever get any social time with the other lads meaning he won't be able to access the gym, or the canteen etc... Trust me, his years ahead will not be easy for him. Look at Breivik, who went to court claiming 'inhuman and degrading' treatment after 5 years solitary confinement, and who hasn't had a visit from anyone apart from his mother before she died. The big hero this guy thought he'd be will be replaced by a realisation that he is mostly alone, with officers who don't give a shit about him, and just a telly for company. I'm against the death penalty, but please don't assume these people 'live out their lives' in jail, because it is a miserable existance, as it should be.

If love is the answer, what was the question? - Carter USM.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #86 posted 03/16/19 2:42am

hausofmoi7

avatar

As a society we have normalised killing muslims.
Since 2001 1 million muslims have been killed in the name of nationalism and in the name of preserving our nations economic dominance and hegemony.
1.5 million muslims if you include the deaths from sanctions which pre date 2001.
Now people think killing muslims is “worth the price” to maintain thier hegemony in society, and to claim the privilege that they are told is theirs.
In Australia if we are not killing muslims in war we hold Muslim refugees fleeing the wars we started in detention centres on manus island in some of the worst conditions imaginable.
This is all normalised behaviour towards muslims in our society.
Completely and utterly dehumanised.

These alt-right terrorists did what thier political leaders are doing on a daily basis to muslims.

Our governments kill muslims on a daily basis and we cheer it on or make justifications for it.
Our governments killed 1.5 million and justified it by claiming its fine because we are an exceptional people and that it was necessary to maintain our nations economic hegemony in the world.
You killed all these people like it was nothing and now you wonder why your followers are doing the exact same thing as you and for the exact same reasons.

Now everyone is wondering how this happened or claiming that alt-right beliefs and behaviour is some kind of aberration.





.
[Edited 3/16/19 3:37am]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #87 posted 03/16/19 3:48am

TweetyV6

avatar

Waiting for the post that says he got a phone call fro Trump to do what he has done. rolleyes


.

[Edited 3/16/19 3:57am]

___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #88 posted 03/16/19 4:00am

KoolEaze

avatar

hausofmoi7 said:

As a society we have normalised killing muslims. Since 2001 1 million muslims have been killed in the name of nationalism and in the name of preserving our nations economic dominance and hegemony. 1.5 million muslims if you include the deaths from sanctions which pre date 2001. Now people think killing muslims is “worth the price” to maintain thier hegemony in society, and to claim the privilege that they are told is theirs. In Australia if we are not killing muslims in war we hold Muslim refugees fleeing the wars we started in detention centres on manus island in some of the worst conditions imaginable. This is all normalised behaviour towards muslims in our society. Completely and utterly dehumanised. These alt-right terrorists did what thier political leaders are doing on a daily basis to muslims. Our governments kill muslims on a daily basis and we cheer it on or make justifications for it. Our governments killed 1.5 million and justified it by claiming its fine because we are an exceptional people and that it was necessary to maintain our nations economic hegemony in the world. You killed all these people like it was nothing and now you wonder why your followers are doing the exact same thing as you and for the exact same reasons. Now everyone is wondering how this happened or claiming that alt-right beliefs and behaviour is some kind of aberration. . [Edited 3/16/19 3:37am]

...

[Edited 3/16/19 4:07am]

[Edited 3/16/19 4:14am]

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"




http://kooleasehvac.com/
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #89 posted 03/16/19 5:33am

hausofmoi7

avatar

TweetyV6 said:

Waiting for the post that says he got a phone call fro Trump to do what he has done. rolleyes


.

[Edited 3/16/19 3:57am]


I’ll give you this.
The terrorist was an Australian.
Australia needs to not only look at its foreign policy which inspired this attack but itself also.
Trump is perhaps an inspiration to this white nationalist terrorist but anti-immigration hatred and resentment is very much part of Australias discourse.
Australia was racist before Trump.
Trying to claim that this act is an aberration or that it is tied exclusively to Trump or American influence is a total cop out and will not solve the issue of white supremacy.
Some Australians may try and say it is all somehow Americas fault, or that the alt-right is some fringe section of society, but Australia can be just as racist as the best of them.





Australia’s current undemocratically elected prime minister




.
[Edited 3/16/19 6:16am]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 3 of 6 <123456>
Reply   New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Politics & Religion > UPDATE: Police say 4 in custody after deadly attacks on New Zealand mosques