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Reply #180 posted 03/14/19 12:16pm

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He will obviously veto it: https://www-m.cnn.com/201...cnn.com%2F White House bracing for embarrassing rebuke of Trump's national emergency By Kaitlan Collins and Kevin Liptak, CNN Posted at 10:24 AM ET, Thu March 14, 2019 “The White House is bracing for an embarrassing rebuke when the Senate votes on a resolution Thursday to overturn President Donald Trump's national emergency declaration to build a wall along the US border with Mexico. Despite the pressure campaign they waged for the last week, Trump's top aides now say as many as 14 Republican senators are poised to break with the President. Trump has told his staff he's resigned to issuing his first veto after it became clear over the past day that enough Republicans will support the measure. Now, his focus is stemming the margin by which the bill will pass. Trump hopes the number of "yes" votes will stay below 60, a symbolic margin that he believes would save some embarrassment, though still require him to use his veto pen.” (Click on link to continue reading)


I wish we could veto him wink

Wonder if his idle threats will change the votes of any republicans who have promised a YES vote.



I was reading an article that said those tweets to repubs came late. Lol.

You know if he doesn’t get impeached and serves his term or loses the next election, he still has to answer to SDNY after he leaves the White House.
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Reply #181 posted 03/14/19 12:22pm

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


I wish we could veto him wink

Wonder if his idle threats will change the votes of any republicans who have promised a YES vote.

I was reading an article that said those tweets to repubs came late. Lol. You know if he doesn’t get impeached and serves his term or loses the next election, he still has to answer to SDNY after he leaves the White House. [Edited 3/14/19 12:17pm]


SDNY is a powerhouse - slamming Manafort minutes after he got his second fo two light sentences. They are not fooling around clapping

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #182 posted 03/14/19 12:51pm

free2bFreeda2

seems humpty trumpty's wall may well be his undoing.
stay clear folks an orange splattering due to a great fall or an trumpity implosion is about to happen.


Senate votes to block Trump's 'emergency' at border; veto looms
14 March 2019

: https://www.yahoo.com/new...05180.html


The Senate voted Thursday to block President Trump’s declaration of a national emergency intended to allow funding of a border wall, with a dozen GOP senators going against the White House. Trump said he would veto the measure, which passed the House by a large margin last month.

The final margin was 59-41. Republican senators voting for the resolution and against Trump were Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Roy Blunt of Missouri, Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Rob Portman of Ohio, Marco Rubio of Florida, Jerry Moran of Kansas, Roger Wicker of Mississippi, and Mitt Romney and Mike Lee of Utah.


Shortly after the vote went final, Trump tweeted a single world: “VETO!” He had spent Thursday morning on Twitter attempting to pressure Republicans to back him on the issue.

“A big National Emergency vote today by The United States Senate on Border Security & the Wall (which is already under major construction),” said Trump. “I am prepared to veto, if necessary. The Southern Border is a National Security and Humanitarian Nightmare, but it can be easily fixed!”

“The Democrats are ‘Border Deniers.’ They refuse to see or acknowledge the Death, Crime, Drugs and Human Trafficking at our Southern Border!” he wrote later, adding, “A vote for today’s resolution by Republican Senators is a vote for Nancy Pelosi, Crime, and the Open Border Democrats!”

The Senate vote was outside of Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s control as it was triggered by the passage of the resolution in the House, where 13 Republicans joined Democrats in a 245 to 182 tally. Neither margin would be large enough to override a presidential veto, but both chambers voting to defy Trump for the first time in his presidency is a major setback at a time when numerous House committees are launching investigations of his campaign, administration and personal business.

The wall was a signature campaign issue for Trump, but he was never able to deliver on his promise to make Mexico pay for it, and the issue languished during his first two years in office. The emergency declaration came after Trump failed to win an appropriation for a border wall in a continuing resolution to fund the government last fall. The resulting deadlock shut the government for five weeks, during which time workers were furloughed or forced to work without pay.

In declaring an emergency on Feb. 15, Trump cited drug smuggling across the border from Mexico (misleading), the drop in crime in El Paso, Texas, after a partial border barricade was built there (not true) and reports of women kidnapped, bound with tape and trafficked into the United States across unguarded sections of the border (no evidence exists of this). Hours later he flew to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida for a weekend of golf.

The wall is also facing legal challenges that could be aided by Trump’s own admission that “I could do the wall over a longer period of time. I didn’t need to do this.”

Legislation proposed by Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, would have restricted future emergency declarations from presidents while allowing Trump's, but he couldn’t reach a compromise agreement with the White House, and the plan fizzled.

“We tried to cut a deal," Lee said. “The president didn’t appear interested."
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Reply #183 posted 03/14/19 2:34pm

poppys

12 Republicans upheld the power of the Senate, big whup. Now he will veto it and the House will uphold the veto. WHHHYYYYYYYY???

AP - In a measure of how remarkable the confrontation was, Thursday was the first time Congress has voted to block a presidential emergency since the National Emergency Act became law in 1976.

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Reply #184 posted 03/14/19 9:12pm

2elijah

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2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:



I wish we could veto him wink

Wonder if his idle threats will change the votes of any republicans who have promised a YES vote.



I was reading an article that said those tweets to repubs came late. Lol. You know if he doesn’t get impeached and serves his term or loses the next election, he still has to answer to SDNY after he leaves the White House. [Edited 3/14/19 12:17pm]


SDNY is a powerhouse - slamming Manafort minutes after he got his second fo two light sentences. They are not fooling around clapping


Well in other news, a judge ruled that trump is not exempt from a civil suit. One of the women who accused him of sexual advances us able to sue him.
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Reply #185 posted 03/14/19 9:58pm

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:



2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:



I wish we could veto him wink

Wonder if his idle threats will change the votes of any republicans who have promised a YES vote.



I was reading an article that said those tweets to repubs came late. Lol. You know if he doesn’t get impeached and serves his term or loses the next election, he still has to answer to SDNY after he leaves the White House. [Edited 3/14/19 12:17pm]


SDNY is a powerhouse - slamming Manafort minutes after he got his second fo two light sentences. They are not fooling around clapping


Well in other news, a judge ruled that trump is not exempt from a civil suit. One of the women who accused him of sexual advances us able to sue him.

yup!
looks like lying don-nocchio's chickens are coming home to roost.

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New York appellate court allows Summer Zervos’s defamation suit against president to proceed
: https://www.google.com/am...story.html

March 14, 2019 at 4:14 PM

A New York appellate court ruled Thursday that President Trump must face a defamation lawsuit filed by former “Apprentice” contestant Summer Zervos, one of about a dozen women who accused Trump of sexual misconduct shortly before the 2016 election.

The ruling, which Trump’s lawyers plan to appeal, means that attorneys for Zervos may have the opportunity to question Trump under oath in the
under oath in the coming months.
The current schedule sets a deadline of June 28 for depositions, with document and electronic discovery expected to be concluded by the end of July.
read complete article at above link provided:

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chickens; they always come home to roost, meaning that one's offensive words or actions are likely at some point to rebound

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Reply #186 posted 03/15/19 6:51pm

2elijah

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free2bFreeda2 said:[quote]

2elijah said:


yup!
looks like lying don-nocchio's chickens are coming home to roost.

🔜👌↔👀

New York appellate court allows Summer Zervos’s defamation suit against president to proceed
: https://www.google.com/am...story.html

March 14, 2019 at 4:14 PM

A New York appellate court ruled Thursday that President Trump must face a defamation lawsuit filed by former “Apprentice” contestant Summer Zervos, one of about a dozen women who accused Trump of sexual misconduct shortly before the 2016 election.

The ruling, which Trump’s lawyers plan to appeal, means that attorneys for Zervos may have the opportunity to question Trump under oath in the
under oath in the coming months.
The current schedule sets a deadline of June 28 for depositions, with document and electronic discovery expected to be concluded by the end of July.
read complete article at above link provided:

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chickens; they always come home to roost, meaning that one's offensive words or actions are likely at some point to rebound

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Hopefully this will give many of his accusers hope, to file a suit against him. He portrays himself as untouchable.
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Reply #187 posted 03/16/19 9:33am

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He wants to keep his white nationalists safe.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #188 posted 03/17/19 8:00am

poppys

cnbc.com

In his first veto, Trump rejects bill that would block his border emergency

  • President Donald Trump vetoes legislation that would end the national emergency he declared at the southern U.S. border.

  • The veto is the first of Trump's presidency.

  • Congress will try to override it but appears not to have enough votes as of now.

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Reply #189 posted 03/18/19 3:17am

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poppys said:

cnbc.com

In his first veto, Trump rejects bill that would block his border emergency

  • President Donald Trump vetoes legislation that would end the national emergency he declared at the southern U.S. border.

  • The veto is the first of Trump's presidency.

  • Congress will try to override it but appears not to have enough votes as of now.


So ths means it'll likely go to the courts.

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #190 posted 03/18/19 6:25am

poppys

DiminutiveRocker said:

poppys said:

cnbc.com

In his first veto, Trump rejects bill that would block his border emergency

  • President Donald Trump vetoes legislation that would end the national emergency he declared at the southern U.S. border.

  • The veto is the first of Trump's presidency.

  • Congress will try to override it but appears not to have enough votes as of now.


So ths means it'll likely go to the courts.


Do you think the Supremes would override a Presidential veto? Doubtful.

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Reply #191 posted 03/18/19 8:52am

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Here's an interesting article on a law website. The Supreme Court ended a legislative override, it wasn't there originally.

https://abovethelaw.com/2...-vetos-it/


...As a philosophical matter, I’m sick to death of people who think that voting to follow LAWS doesn’t matter unless Republicans in Congress agree. It’s the intellectual equivalent of saying that we shouldn’t have laws because criminals won’t follow them. At some point, the Republican unwillingness to defend Constitutional government is not a reason others shouldn’t try to defend it.

...The original NEA was written with this “take backsies” save in mind. In the original law, Congress could vote to terminate a declared national emergency, and that vote was NOT subject to presidential veto.

But then, Chadha v. INS happened. The Supreme Court ended the concept of a “legislative veto” of executive action. In response, the NEA was amended to require a joint resolution to terminate a national emergency, and joint resolutions must be signed by the president.

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Reply #192 posted 03/18/19 10:05am

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poppys said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


So ths means it'll likely go to the courts.


Do you think the Supremes would override a Presidential veto? Doubtful.


Do you think it will get that far? I feel like proving this border "crisis" is NOT an emergency will not be difficult. And what can the WH come up with to appeal the decision? Also - let's it does go to the SCOTUS it will be obvious that appropriating funds not approved by Congress for a ficticious emergency is not constitutional nor is it the correct use of said act. All they need is John Roberts to tip the scale. I am not a huge fan of the dude, but he seems adamant that the SCOTUS not be used as a vehicle for political nonsense.

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #193 posted 03/18/19 11:15am

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poppys said:


Do you think the Supremes would override a Presidential veto? Doubtful.


Do you think it will get that far? I feel like proving this border "crisis" is NOT an emergency will not be difficult. And what can the WH come up with to appeal the decision? Also - let's it does go to the SCOTUS it will be obvious that appropriating funds not approved by Congress for a ficticious emergency is not constitutional nor is it the correct use of said act. All they need is John Roberts to tip the scale. I am not a huge fan of the dude, but he seems adamant that the SCOTUS not be used as a vehicle for political nonsense.


Well, when people don't get the outcome they want it goes up the chain. Can't imagine Trump accepting the decision of a lower court. USSC did allow most of his travel ban, which seemed obviously illegal.

The Supremes took the teeth out of letting the legislative body prevail in the first place, which is the way the NEA was originally written. (article above) The Supreme Court ended the concept of a “legislative veto” of executive action.

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Reply #194 posted 03/18/19 5:10pm

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Are the gigantic caravans here yet?

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Reply #195 posted 03/21/19 5:55am

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hahaha this is too funny, Mexicans are stealing dumbfucks wall LOL
he has to build a second wall to protect the first one

https://twitter.com/i/status/1108526385314914304


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Trump turns from 'whining' grief to pathetic midterm sissy moaning and squealing.
weakest pussy crybaby ever to hold office LMFAO
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Reply #196 posted 03/21/19 6:06am

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hahaha this is too funny, Mexicans are stealing dumbfucks wall LOL
he has to build a second wall to protect the first one

https://twitter.com/i/status/1108526385314914304


: evillol the lord works in mysterious ways

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