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Reply #630 posted 01/28/19 3:28pm

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Reply #631 posted 01/28/19 4:51pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:



RodeoSchro said:


According to the CBO, the Trump Shutdown cost $11,000,000,000, and $3,000,000,000 is not recoverable.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/54937



CBO has estimated the effects of the five-week partial shutdown of the government that started on December 22, 2018, and ended on January 25, 2019. This report presents CBO’s findings, which include the following:


  • CBO estimates that the five-week shutdown delayed approximately $18 billion in federal discretionary spending for compensation and purchases of goods and services and suspended some federal services.

  • As a result of reduced economic activity, CBO estimates, real (that is, inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product (GDP) in the fourth quarter of 2018 was reduced by $3 billion (in 2019 dollars) in relation to what it would have been otherwise. (Such references are in calendar years or quarters unless this report specifies otherwise.) In the first quarter of 2019, the level of real GDP is estimated to be $8 billion lower than it would have been—an effect reflecting both the five-week partial shutdown and the resumption in economic activity once funding resumed.

  • As a share of quarterly real GDP, the level of real GDP in the fourth quarter of 2018 was reduced by 0.1 percent, CBO estimates. And the level of real GDP in the first quarter of 2019 is expected to be reduced by 0.2 percent. (The effect on the annualized quarterly growth rate in those quarters will be larger.)

  • In subsequent quarters, GDP will be temporarily higher than it would have been in the absence of a shutdown. Although most of the real GDP lost during the fourth quarter of 2018 and the first quarter of 2019 will eventually be recovered, CBO estimates that about $3 billion will not be. That amount equals 0.02 percent of projected annual GDP in 2019. In other words, the level of GDP for the full calendar year is expected to be 0.02 percent smaller than it would have been otherwise.

  • Underlying those effects on the overall economy are much more significant effects on individual businesses and workers. Among those who experienced the largest and most direct negative effects are federal workers who faced delayed compensation and private-sector entities that lost business. Some of those private-sector entities will never recoup that lost income.

  • All of the estimated effects and their timing are subject to considerable uncertainty. In particular, CBO is uncertain about how much discretionary spending was affected by the partial shutdown, how affected federal employees and contractors adjusted their spending in response to delayed compensation, and how agencies will adjust their spending on goods and services now that funding has resumed.






Yep! $11 Billion that shutdown bled us for.



$11 billion.

TRUMP IS AN IDIOT!



If we have another one, it may cost 3x as much. Now if he bypasses Congress and calls an Emergency for the wall money, and gets it, then there would be no need for him to shutdown the government again, right? Am I making any sense here? lol.
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Reply #632 posted 01/28/19 5:01pm

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Yep! $11 Billion that shutdown bled us for.

$11 billion.

TRUMP IS AN IDIOT!

If we have another one, it may cost 3x as much. Now if he bypasses Congress and calls an Emergency for the wall money, and gets it, then there would be no need for him to shutdown the government again, right? Am I making any sense here? lol. [Edited 1/28/19 16:56pm]


It'll get tied up in court if he pulls a stunt like that.

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Reply #633 posted 01/28/19 5:39pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:



2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:


Yep! $11 Billion that shutdown bled us for.



$11 billion.

TRUMP IS AN IDIOT!



If we have another one, it may cost 3x as much. Now if he bypasses Congress and calls an Emergency for the wall money, and gets it, then there would be no need for him to shutdown the government again, right? Am I making any sense here? lol. [Edited 1/28/19 16:56pm]


It'll get tied up in court if he pulls a stunt like that.


Ok, somehow I feel this next shutdown will be much longer, because he’s not going to accept less than what he asks, for the wall. He seems to be more concerned about what those asswipes, Coulter and Limbaugh will say about him.
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Reply #634 posted 01/28/19 7:00pm

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


It'll get tied up in court if he pulls a stunt like that.

Ok, somehow I feel this next shutdown will be much longer, because he’s not going to accept less than what he asks, for the wall. He seems to be more concerned about what those asswipes, Coulter and Limbaugh will say about him.

Caring more about what those two a-holes think than the welfare of the American public is just one reason why he is a shit president.

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Reply #635 posted 01/29/19 6:04am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

RodeoSchro said:

According to the CBO, the Trump Shutdown cost $11,000,000,000, and $3,000,000,000 is not recoverable.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/54937


CBO has estimated the effects of the five-week partial shutdown of the government that started on December 22, 2018, and ended on January 25, 2019. This report presents CBO’s findings, which include the following:

  • CBO estimates that the five-week shutdown delayed approximately $18 billion in federal discretionary spending for compensation and purchases of goods and services and suspended some federal services.
  • As a result of reduced economic activity, CBO estimates, real (that is, inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product (GDP) in the fourth quarter of 2018 was reduced by $3 billion (in 2019 dollars) in relation to what it would have been otherwise. (Such references are in calendar years or quarters unless this report specifies otherwise.) In the first quarter of 2019, the level of real GDP is estimated to be $8 billion lower than it would have been—an effect reflecting both the five-week partial shutdown and the resumption in economic activity once funding resumed.
  • As a share of quarterly real GDP, the level of real GDP in the fourth quarter of 2018 was reduced by 0.1 percent, CBO estimates. And the level of real GDP in the first quarter of 2019 is expected to be reduced by 0.2 percent. (The effect on the annualized quarterly growth rate in those quarters will be larger.)
  • In subsequent quarters, GDP will be temporarily higher than it would have been in the absence of a shutdown. Although most of the real GDP lost during the fourth quarter of 2018 and the first quarter of 2019 will eventually be recovered, CBO estimates that about $3 billion will not be. That amount equals 0.02 percent of projected annual GDP in 2019. In other words, the level of GDP for the full calendar year is expected to be 0.02 percent smaller than it would have been otherwise.
  • Underlying those effects on the overall economy are much more significant effects on individual businesses and workers. Among those who experienced the largest and most direct negative effects are federal workers who faced delayed compensation and private-sector entities that lost business. Some of those private-sector entities will never recoup that lost income.
  • All of the estimated effects and their timing are subject to considerable uncertainty. In particular, CBO is uncertain about how much discretionary spending was affected by the partial shutdown, how affected federal employees and contractors adjusted their spending in response to delayed compensation, and how agencies will adjust their spending on goods and services now that funding has resumed.




Yep! $11 Billion that shutdown bled us for.

$11 billion.

TRUMP IS AN IDIOT!



Keep in mind that's only the effects the CBO has quantified from the government side. There's a lot more money that was lost in the private sector.

Contractors couldn't work and didn't get paid (and won't get any back pay either). Restaurants in areas with lots of federal workers lost a month's worth of business. Movie theaters were mostly empty. Dry cleaners weren't needed. Etc. Etc. Etc.

It's kind of ironic. When taxes are cut on the rich, there is absolutely no "trickle down" at all.

But when income is taken away from the middle class, the negative effects don't just trickle down - it's an immediate gusher.

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[Edited 1/29/19 6:04am]

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Reply #636 posted 01/29/19 6:04am

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DiminutiveRocker said:



2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:



It'll get tied up in court if he pulls a stunt like that.



Ok, somehow I feel this next shutdown will be much longer, because he’s not going to accept less than what he asks, for the wall. He seems to be more concerned about what those asswipes, Coulter and Limbaugh will say about him.



Caring more about what those two a-holes think than the welfare of the American public is just one reason why he is a shit president.


Exactly!
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Reply #637 posted 01/29/19 7:22am

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No Republican senators have signed on to a bill to give federal contractors back pay after the shutdown



https://www.vox.com/polic...s-back-pay


A growing number of Republican Senators have slammed the negative effects of the government shutdown, yet none have signed on to a bill guaranteeing back pay for contractors, a group of federal workers that’s been hit especially hard by the stalemate.

While Sen. Tina Smith (MN), one of the legislation’s chief sponsors, has now racked up support for the bill from more than 20 Democrats, not a single Republican has officially backed it so far, according to a spokesperson for Smith. Lawmakers are hopeful this could change, however.

<snip> Many federal contractors, unlike other government employees, are not expected to get back pay for the paychecks they missed during the 35-day shutdown. Because they work for a third-party company that the government pays for its services, contractors don’t get paid when these services aren’t used. During past shutdowns, contractors have been forced to simply chalk up this gap in pay as a loss.

For those who did see breaks in their wages, it’s a gaping hole they’re being asked to recover from with little recourse. “Thirty-five days is a historically long shutdown,” says Van Hollen. “The economic pain and damage was more severe [than past ones.] There are lot of people who were left out in the cold for no fault of their own.”

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Sarah Silbiger/The New York Times

Top leaders of intelligence agencies made their annual appearance before the Senate to discuss the biggest threats to national security. Cyberthreats from China and Russia were high on the agenda. Among other observations: North Korea is “unlikely to give up” all of its nuclear stockpiles and Iran is not actively trying to make a nuclear bomb — both direct contradictions of President Trump’s foreign policy tenets. Above from left, the F.B.I. director, Christopher Wray; the C.I.A. director, Gina Haspel; and the director of national intelligence, Dan Coats. Also notable was the absence of any rationale for building a wall along the southwestern border, which Mr. Trump has characterized as the country’s most critical security threat.








[Edited 1/29/19 16:10pm]

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Reply #639 posted 01/29/19 3:58pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

RodeoSchro said:

According to the CBO, the Trump Shutdown cost $11,000,000,000, and $3,000,000,000 is not recoverable.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/54937


CBO has estimated the effects of the five-week partial shutdown of the government that started on December 22, 2018, and ended on January 25, 2019. This report presents CBO’s findings, which include the following:

  • CBO estimates that the five-week shutdown delayed approximately $18 billion in federal discretionary spending for compensation and purchases of goods and services and suspended some federal services.
  • As a result of reduced economic activity, CBO estimates, real (that is, inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product (GDP) in the fourth quarter of 2018 was reduced by $3 billion (in 2019 dollars) in relation to what it would have been otherwise. (Such references are in calendar years or quarters unless this report specifies otherwise.) In the first quarter of 2019, the level of real GDP is estimated to be $8 billion lower than it would have been—an effect reflecting both the five-week partial shutdown and the resumption in economic activity once funding resumed.
  • As a share of quarterly real GDP, the level of real GDP in the fourth quarter of 2018 was reduced by 0.1 percent, CBO estimates. And the level of real GDP in the first quarter of 2019 is expected to be reduced by 0.2 percent. (The effect on the annualized quarterly growth rate in those quarters will be larger.)
  • In subsequent quarters, GDP will be temporarily higher than it would have been in the absence of a shutdown. Although most of the real GDP lost during the fourth quarter of 2018 and the first quarter of 2019 will eventually be recovered, CBO estimates that about $3 billion will not be. That amount equals 0.02 percent of projected annual GDP in 2019. In other words, the level of GDP for the full calendar year is expected to be 0.02 percent smaller than it would have been otherwise.
  • Underlying those effects on the overall economy are much more significant effects on individual businesses and workers. Among those who experienced the largest and most direct negative effects are federal workers who faced delayed compensation and private-sector entities that lost business. Some of those private-sector entities will never recoup that lost income.
  • All of the estimated effects and their timing are subject to considerable uncertainty. In particular, CBO is uncertain about how much discretionary spending was affected by the partial shutdown, how affected federal employees and contractors adjusted their spending in response to delayed compensation, and how agencies will adjust their spending on goods and services now that funding has resumed.




Yep! $11 Billion that shutdown bled us for.

$11 billion.

TRUMP IS AN IDIOT!

well the idiot dems should have just funded the wall...fence.... whatever...

What if half the things ever said
Turned out 2 be a lie
How will U know the Truth?
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Reply #640 posted 01/29/19 4:10pm

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RodeoSchro said:

No Republican senators have signed on to a bill to give federal contractors back pay after the shutdown



https://www.vox.com/polic...s-back-pay


A growing number of Republican Senators have slammed the negative effects of the government shutdown, yet none have signed on to a bill guaranteeing back pay for contractors, a group of federal workers that’s been hit especially hard by the stalemate.

While Sen. Tina Smith (MN), one of the legislation’s chief sponsors, has now racked up support for the bill from more than 20 Democrats, not a single Republican has officially backed it so far, according to a spokesperson for Smith. Lawmakers are hopeful this could change, however.

<snip> Many federal contractors, unlike other government employees, are not expected to get back pay for the paychecks they missed during the 35-day shutdown. Because they work for a third-party company that the government pays for its services, contractors don’t get paid when these services aren’t used. During past shutdowns, contractors have been forced to simply chalk up this gap in pay as a loss.

For those who did see breaks in their wages, it’s a gaping hole they’re being asked to recover from with little recourse. “Thirty-five days is a historically long shutdown,” says Van Hollen. “The economic pain and damage was more severe [than past ones.] There are lot of people who were left out in the cold for no fault of their own.”

No surprise there.

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Reply #641 posted 01/29/19 5:27pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Yep! $11 Billion that shutdown bled us for.

$11 billion.

TRUMP IS AN IDIOT!

well the idiot dems should have just funded the wall...fence.... whatever...

.

Do you understand how your democracy works or that your president publicly stated he was proud to create this idiocy?

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The checks and balances on the president's powers are there for a reason - your temporary monarchial system recognised the need to limit the temp-king's power and time in office. He knew he could not get this funding through his own party, so this funding round was passed by both houses without the wall funding ready fot him to approve. Instead he added the funding after this because the lower house changed. He made it a demand by holding his employees, people and economy for ransom to try to force this through. Beyond the particular issue, this is about the power of parliament vs the electoral college's selected king for a term. That he is beholden to others and out-numbered on one floor puts him in an difficult position of his own making. That he is prepared to sacrifice the people, the economy, whatever to get out of this self-created idiocy is not the fault of those standing against this idiocy. The requirement for the king to work with the parliament where the parliament has at least one house that is from the other side of politics is nothing unusual - all it takes is someone who knows how to make good deals to avoid this type of idiocy. Instread, he is just seeking to rely on others caring more about people and the economy than he does.

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IanRG said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

well the idiot dems should have just funded the wall...fence.... whatever...

.

Do you understand how your democracy works or that your president publicly stated he was proud to create this idiocy?

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The checks and balances on the president's powers are there for a reason - your temporary monarchial system recognised the need to limit the temp-king's power and time in office. He knew he could not get this funding through his own party, so this funding round was passed by both houses without the wall funding ready fot him to approve. Instead he added the funding after this because the lower house changed. He made it a demand by holding his employees, people and economy for ransom to try to force this through. Beyond the particular issue, this is about the power of parliament vs the electoral college's selected king for a term. That he is beholden to others and out-numbered on one floor puts him in an difficult position of his own making. That he is prepared to sacrifice the people, the economy, whatever to get out of this self-created idiocy is not the fault of those standing against this idiocy. The requirement for the king to work with the parliament where the parliament has at least one house that is from the other side of politics is nothing unusual - all it takes is someone who knows how to make good deals to avoid this type of idiocy. Instread, he is just seeking to rely on others caring more about people and the economy than he does.

we do not have a democracy... and to the rest... it has zero to do with what I said. I know how it works and I know that Nancy could have gotten a bill passed with funding... she CHOOSE not to. The fact that it should have been done in November is not the issue.

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Reply #643 posted 01/29/19 6:08pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

IanRG said:

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Do you understand how your democracy works or that your president publicly stated he was proud to create this idiocy?

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The checks and balances on the president's powers are there for a reason - your temporary monarchial system recognised the need to limit the temp-king's power and time in office. He knew he could not get this funding through his own party, so this funding round was passed by both houses without the wall funding ready fot him to approve. Instead he added the funding after this because the lower house changed. He made it a demand by holding his employees, people and economy for ransom to try to force this through. Beyond the particular issue, this is about the power of parliament vs the electoral college's selected king for a term. That he is beholden to others and out-numbered on one floor puts him in an difficult position of his own making. That he is prepared to sacrifice the people, the economy, whatever to get out of this self-created idiocy is not the fault of those standing against this idiocy. The requirement for the king to work with the parliament where the parliament has at least one house that is from the other side of politics is nothing unusual - all it takes is someone who knows how to make good deals to avoid this type of idiocy. Instread, he is just seeking to rely on others caring more about people and the economy than he does.

we do not have a democracy... and to the rest... it has zero to do with what I said. I know how it works and I know that Nancy could have gotten a bill passed with funding... she CHOOSE not to. The fact that it should have been done in November is not the issue.

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All you are doing is demonstrating that you don't know how your political system actually works. You are trying to make this someone else's fault that your king for a term cannot negotiate his way out of this self-created idiocy. To do this, you expect that someone else will not use their deliberately given constitutional powers and rights as necessary checks and balances against idiocy by your king. That your king lacked the strength and will to get this done in November when it should have been much easier is very much the issue. That he delayed asking for this until he was forced by some of his several puppet masters and he is using a childishly blatant tactic to seek to compromise his opponents so they will not make future stands against his idiocy does not make this his opponent's fault - He openly stated publicly that he is proud to own this idiocy. He is using your loyalty for him against you and against your country.

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11 BILLION SHIT FIT OVER A 5 BILLION WALL. VOTE OUT THE DEMS. ALL OF THEM!

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #645 posted 01/29/19 6:23pm

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The Repubs don't want to be responsible for Trumpty Dumpty's Wall any more than the Dems do. That's why they didn't do jack shit for 2 years. They were reminded by Chuck Todd on Meet the Press last Sunday that they said they were gonna do it at the beginning of 2017, so what happened? They had NO answer, just shrugged.

Just like they said they had a replacement for Obamacare for 6 years - and feckin nothing.

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Reply #646 posted 01/29/19 6:26pm

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11 BILLION SHIT FIT OVER A 5 BILLION WALL. VOTE OUT THE DEMS. ALL OF THEM!

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Who proudly owned the "shit fit" and had power all the time to step back from their demands? Stay on target.

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Reply #647 posted 01/29/19 7:26pm

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poppys said:

The Repubs don't want to be responsible for Trumpty Dumpty's Wall any more than the Dems do. That's why they didn't do jack shit for 2 years. They were reminded by Chuck Todd on Meet the Press last Sunday that they said they were gonna do it at the beginning of 2017, so what happened? They had NO answer, just shrugged.

Just like they said they had a replacement for Obamacare for 6 years - and feckin nothing.


I hear some repubs don’t want trump to be the only Repub on the ticket for 2020. They are looking for other Repub candidates to challenge him. Those fools are getting tired of trump’s bs as well. He’s a real sicko, and has failed as president.

He was so proud to brag about shutting down the Government, and owning that he can shut it down, while not giving a damn about federal workers who suffered through that shutdown.
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Reply #648 posted 01/29/19 11:56pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Yep! $11 Billion that shutdown bled us for.

$11 billion.

TRUMP IS AN IDIOT!

well the idiot dems should have just funded the wall...fence.... whatever...

so you oppose elections and the democratic process
you rather prefer a facist dictator, congress and senate are redundant, one fat orange fuck should decide everything

ok

well, at least you made clear where you stand



Trump turns from 'whining' grief to pathetic midterm sissy moaning and squealing.
weakest pussy crybaby ever to hold office LMFAO
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It bears repeating...


Top leaders of intelligence agencies made their annual appearance before the Senate to discuss the biggest threats to national security. Cyberthreats from China and Russia were high on the agenda. Among other observations: North Korea is “unlikely to give up” all of its nuclear stockpiles and Iran is not actively trying to make a nuclear bomb — both direct contradictions of President Trump’s foreign policy tenets.


Also notable was the absence of any rationale for building a wall along the southwestern border, which Mr. Trump has characterized as the country’s most critical security threat.

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Reply #650 posted 01/30/19 8:19am

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https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-border-wall-would-be-symbolic-waste-money-former-homeland-security-1311085

Trump's Border Wall Would Be a Symbolic Waste of Money, Former Homeland Security Chief Says

As lawmakers race against the clock to avoid another government shutdown over border security, former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff has offered a word of advice: Don't put taxpayers' money behind President Donald Trump's border wall.

In an interview with Newsweek on Tuesday, Chertoff, who was the second chief to lead the DHS under the George W. Bush administration after the department was formed in response to the September 11 attacks, expressed hope that lawmakers would be able to strike a deal on border security before February 15, when a funding measure to keep the government open runs out.

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Reply #651 posted 01/30/19 8:33am

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11 BILLION SHIT FIT OVER A 5 BILLION WALL. VOTE OUT THE DEMS. ALL OF THEM!

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poppys said:

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-border-wall-would-be-symbolic-waste-money-former-homeland-security-1311085

Trump's Border Wall Would Be a Symbolic Waste of Money, Former Homeland Security Chief Says

As lawmakers race against the clock to avoid another government shutdown over border security, former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff has offered a word of advice: Don't put taxpayers' money behind President Donald Trump's border wall.

In an interview with Newsweek on Tuesday, Chertoff, who was the second chief to lead the DHS under the George W. Bush administration after the department was formed in response to the September 11 attacks, expressed hope that lawmakers would be able to strike a deal on border security before February 15, when a funding measure to keep the government open runs out.


Of course, this "border threat" was created so he could get that campaign prop for his racist constituents. It will be fun to see him declare an emergency that all national security experts have said a NON-EMERGENCY.


I cannot say it enough, and he gives me daily reason to say it.

What an asshole disbelief

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Reply #653 posted 01/30/19 11:34am

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poppys said:

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-border-wall-would-be-symbolic-waste-money-former-homeland-security-1311085

Trump's Border Wall Would Be a Symbolic Waste of Money, Former Homeland Security Chief Says

As lawmakers race against the clock to avoid another government shutdown over border security, former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff has offered a word of advice: Don't put taxpayers' money behind President Donald Trump's border wall.

In an interview with Newsweek on Tuesday, Chertoff, who was the second chief to lead the DHS under the George W. Bush administration after the department was formed in response to the September 11 attacks, expressed hope that lawmakers would be able to strike a deal on border security before February 15, when a funding measure to keep the government open runs out.


Of course, this "border threat" was created so he could get that campaign prop for his racist constituents. It will be fun to see him declare an emergency that all national security experts have said a NON-EMERGENCY.


I cannot say it enough, and he gives me daily reason to say it.

What an asshole disbelief

Such a dire emergency that we can wait weeks for this asshole to declare a "national emergency". What a fucking tool.

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13cjk13 said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Of course, this "border threat" was created so he could get that campaign prop for his racist constituents. It will be fun to see him declare an emergency that all national security experts have said a NON-EMERGENCY.


I cannot say it enough, and he gives me daily reason to say it.

What an asshole disbelief

Such a dire emergency that we can wait weeks for this asshole to declare a "national emergency". What a fucking tool.


He had a Republican House and Senate for 2 years to pass this legislation... but they kept putting it off becasue they knew it was ridiculous.

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Reply #655 posted 01/30/19 3:03pm

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In the mail today.

“Walled In,” by John Cuneo.

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Reply #656 posted 01/30/19 3:04pm

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poppys said:

In the mail today.

“Walled In,” by John Cuneo.


Spot on. clapping

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #657 posted 01/30/19 11:21pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

11 BILLION SHIT FIT OVER A 5 BILLION WALL. VOTE OUT THE DEMS. ALL OF THEM!


11 BILLION SHIT INSTEAD OF ZERO BILLIONS FOR NO WALL. DUH! VOTE OUT THAT WORTHLESS ORANGE PIECE OF RAPIST SHIT!

Trump turns from 'whining' grief to pathetic midterm sissy moaning and squealing.
weakest pussy crybaby ever to hold office LMFAO
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Reply #658 posted 01/31/19 5:15am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

11 BILLION SHIT FIT OVER A 5 BILLION WALL. VOTE OUT THE DEMS. ALL OF THEM!


11 BILLION SHIT INSTEAD OF ZERO BILLIONS FOR NO WALL. DUH! VOTE OUT THAT WORTHLESS ORANGE PIECE OF RAPIST SHIT!

Yes, please.

"Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost".
-Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #659 posted 01/31/19 8:55am

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well, at least that fat worthless orange POS knows how to handle the freezing temperatures

Trump turns from 'whining' grief to pathetic midterm sissy moaning and squealing.
weakest pussy crybaby ever to hold office LMFAO
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