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Reply #60 posted 10/29/18 1:09pm

Camileyun

RodeoSchro said:



Camileyun said:


RodeoSchro said:




Nothing more than a feeble attempt to shield Trump, as always. I'm not sure who's a bigger troll - SuperFurryAnimal, who admits he's trolling all the time; or djThunderfunk, who only admits it some of the time.

No problem, all we have to is keep our eyes on the ball and not fall into either one of those guys' trolling strategies.

At any rate, Trump enabled the synagogue assassin. To paraphrase Andrew Gillum - I'm not saying Trump is a white nationalist, but the white nationalists think Trump is a white nationalist.

The synagogue assassin is a white nationalist. You can do the math from there.
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So, let me get the math straight. Trump(not a white nationalist) + white nationalists think he is a white nationalist = Trump, therefore, is a white nationalist. Do I have that right? Ha, Common core math.



President Trump has already proudly declared he is a nationalist.

Again - if white nationalists like former Ku Klx Klan Grand Dragon David Duke think he's the best thing since sliced bread, I don't think we really need President Trump declaring, "I'm a WHITE nationalist!"

Ask the very fine people that were in Charlottesville about that.


Convoluted logic, my friend. David Duke may think you are a walking dildo...doesn't make you one, necessarily.
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Reply #61 posted 10/29/18 1:31pm

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Camileyun said:

RodeoSchro said:



President Trump has already proudly declared he is a nationalist.

Again - if white nationalists like former Ku Klx Klan Grand Dragon David Duke think he's the best thing since sliced bread, I don't think we really need President Trump declaring, "I'm a WHITE nationalist!"

Ask the very fine people that were in Charlottesville about that.

Convoluted logic, my friend. David Duke may think you are a walking dildo...doesn't make you one, necessarily.



Now THAT is convoluted logic. If someone criticizes you - sure. But if someone praises you, then no. He's saying, "You're like me. You're one of us" for a reason.

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Reply #62 posted 10/29/18 1:42pm

Camileyun

RodeoSchro said:



Camileyun said:


RodeoSchro said:




President Trump has already proudly declared he is a nationalist.

Again - if white nationalists like former Ku Klx Klan Grand Dragon David Duke think he's the best thing since sliced bread, I don't think we really need President Trump declaring, "I'm a WHITE nationalist!"

Ask the very fine people that were in Charlottesville about that.



Convoluted logic, my friend. David Duke may think you are a walking dildo...doesn't make you one, necessarily.



Now THAT is convoluted logic. If someone criticizes you - sure. But if someone praises you, then no. He's saying, "You're like me. You're one of us" for a reason.


Ok, you're a fairy princess, just like me! Again, doesn't make you one ( just tells you I'm deluded).
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Reply #63 posted 10/29/18 1:52pm

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Like it or not, he's going.


CNN:

Sanders announced that President Trump will travel to Pennsylvania tomorrow to grieve with the community.

She also mentioned the President's own personal ties to the Jewish American community.

"He adores jewish Americans as part of his own family. The President is the grandfather of several Jewish grandchildren. His daughter is a Jewish American and his son-in-law is a descendant of Holocaust survivors," Sanders said.

As he should.

All but 1 have said that they don't want him there. Do you not understand that this President shows no empathy? That he can not put this Nation or these people at ease? The 1st words out of his mouth was, they should have had a security guard. eek Seriously? That's what he says??

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Reply #64 posted 10/29/18 1:57pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Camileyun said:

RodeoSchro said: Convoluted logic, my friend. David Duke may think you are a walking dildo...doesn't make you one, necessarily.



Now THAT is convoluted logic. If someone criticizes you - sure. But if someone praises you, then no. He's saying, "You're like me. You're one of us" for a reason.

Wrong. They are ultimately trying to promote own cause. I can see why the man was an AntiSemite and AntiTrump, just take a look at Trumps political moves, asking Palestinians to create peace agreement or cut out funding and the move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Not exactly full-blown white nationalist there! And though many moderate people don't come out and say it they say Trump will create WW3 with those moves. Some on the board even were critical of Jewish people in past over the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and I think some of the comments were borderline.

Trump turns from 'humbling' grief to midterm fire and furry
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Reply #65 posted 10/29/18 2:01pm

Camileyun

PennyPurple said:



Camileyun said:


PennyPurple said:

Like it or not, he's going.



CNN:



Sanders announced that President Trump will travel to Pennsylvania tomorrow to grieve with the community.


She also mentioned the President's own personal ties to the Jewish American community.


"He adores jewish Americans as part of his own family. The President is the grandfather of several Jewish grandchildren. His daughter is a Jewish American and his son-in-law is a descendant of Holocaust survivors," Sanders said.




As he should.

All but 1 have said that they don't want him there. Do you not understand that this President shows no empathy? That he can not put this Nation or these people at ease? The 1st words out of his mouth was, they should have had a security guard. eek Seriously? That's what he says??


Then shame on them for politicizing this tragedy (never let a crisis go to waste). What gives them the right to speak for all of Pittsburgh? In my mind, this is part of the President's job, whomever it is. If the families of the victims prefer he not show up, then he should rethink his plans.
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Reply #66 posted 10/29/18 2:03pm

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Camileyun said:

RodeoSchro said:



Now THAT is convoluted logic. If someone criticizes you - sure. But if someone praises you, then no. He's saying, "You're like me. You're one of us" for a reason.

Ok, you're a fairy princess, just like me! Again, doesn't make you one ( just tells you I'm deluded).

Another way to look at it. If you meet someone famous at a "meet and greet" they are not necessarily your friend.

Trump turns from 'humbling' grief to midterm fire and furry
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Reply #67 posted 10/29/18 2:09pm

Camileyun

SuperFurryAnimal said:



Camileyun said:


RodeoSchro said:




Now THAT is convoluted logic. If someone criticizes you - sure. But if someone praises you, then no. He's saying, "You're like me. You're one of us" for a reason.



Ok, you're a fairy princess, just like me! Again, doesn't make you one ( just tells you I'm deluded).


Another way to look at it. If you meet someone famous at a "meet and greet" they are not necessarily your friend.


This is true.
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Reply #68 posted 10/29/18 2:09pm

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Camileyun said:

RodeoSchro said:



Now THAT is convoluted logic. If someone criticizes you - sure. But if someone praises you, then no. He's saying, "You're like me. You're one of us" for a reason.

Ok, you're a fairy princess, just like me! Again, doesn't make you one ( just tells you I'm deluded).



You're trying too hard.

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Reply #69 posted 10/29/18 2:25pm

Camileyun

RodeoSchro said:



Camileyun said:


RodeoSchro said:




Now THAT is convoluted logic. If someone criticizes you - sure. But if someone praises you, then no. He's saying, "You're like me. You're one of us" for a reason.



Ok, you're a fairy princess, just like me! Again, doesn't make you one ( just tells you I'm deluded).



You're trying too hard.



Don't think so. You may just be wrong.
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Reply #70 posted 10/29/18 2:27pm

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RodeoSchro said:



You're trying too hard.

Don't think so. You may just be wrong.



Maybe, it happens.

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Reply #71 posted 10/29/18 2:29pm

Camileyun

The good Rabbi has it right...principles before politics.
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Reply #72 posted 10/29/18 2:32pm

Camileyun

RodeoSchro said:



Camileyun said:


RodeoSchro said:




You're trying too hard.



Don't think so. You may just be wrong.



Maybe, it happens.


Btw (if this is none of my business, please let me know) but you mentioned that you would find out if they were going to charge the lunatic that threatened your son at his work. Any update?
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Reply #73 posted 10/29/18 3:06pm

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RodeoSchro said:



Maybe, it happens.

Btw (if this is none of my business, please let me know) but you mentioned that you would find out if they were going to charge the lunatic that threatened your son at his work. Any update?




Yep! The campaign formally reported him to the FBI. I don't know yet if the FBI has interviewed him but apparently his excuse for the whole episode was that he had "one too many martinis at lunch".

I'll keep abreast of the situation. I'm pretty sure that at some point, he and I are going to have a talk.

BTW, this guy threatened to kill a whole office full of people - not just my son. His stated intention was not be just a murderer, but a mass murderer. His "apology" was that he hoped someone else killed them all.

I also found out he's in his 60's. I thought earlier he was a young guy. But no, he's even older than me!

What in the Sam Hill gets into a fully-grown man to make him decide that marching into an office full of people he's never met, and threatening to kill them all, is a good idea?

Not just booze. That kind of hatred has there way before he drank that first martini.

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Reply #74 posted 10/29/18 3:07pm

Camileyun

A Muslim group started a Go Fund Me page for the Tree of Life Synogogue victim's families to let them know they share they're pain and support them as members of the community and as fellow Americans. They've raised over $654K so far and it is now a multi-faith effort. This is an amazing ray of light in an otherwise tragic event.
I, for one, still have faith in the people of our country.
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Reply #75 posted 10/29/18 3:14pm

13cjk13

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Because people are getting slaughtered as a result of this psycopath's vitriol, that's why. HE IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM. HittilyHittilyHitler.

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If a psycho that loves trump sends bombs, it's because trump. If a psycho that hates trump shoots up a synagogue, it's because trump. blahblah

Deranged nonsense.


Trump is the motherfucking problem. Deal with it.

"Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost".
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Reply #76 posted 10/29/18 3:18pm

Camileyun

RodeoSchro said:



Camileyun said:


RodeoSchro said:




Maybe, it happens.



Btw (if this is none of my business, please let me know) but you mentioned that you would find out if they were going to charge the lunatic that threatened your son at his work. Any update?




Yep! The campaign formally reported him to the FBI. I don't know yet if the FBI has interviewed him but apparently his excuse for the whole episode was that he had "one too many martinis at lunch".

I'll keep abreast of the situation. I'm pretty sure that at some point, he and I are going to have a talk.

BTW, this guy threatened to kill a whole office full of people - not just my son. His stated intention was not be just a murderer, but a mass murderer. His "apology" was that he hoped someone else killed them all.

I also found out he's in his 60's. I thought earlier he was a young guy. But no, he's even older than me!

What in the Sam Hill gets into a fully-grown man to make him decide that marching into an office full of people he's never met, and threatening to kill them all, is a good idea?

Not just booze. That kind of hatred has there way before he drank that first martini.


Wow, how scary and traumatic. I hope they have him in custody (He's a powder keg) but it sounds like he's not. It's hard, lately, not to come to the conclusion that middle-aged men are in crisis in this country. Glad your son and his office are o.k.
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Reply #77 posted 10/29/18 3:30pm

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djThunderfunk said:


If a psycho that loves trump sends bombs, it's because trump. If a psycho that hates trump shoots up a synagogue, it's because trump. blahblah

Deranged nonsense.


Trump is the motherfucking problem. Deal with it.



He's the catalyst, but sadly he isn't the root.

The root is Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Savage, Levin, etc etc etc. These bad Americans have told their listeners for literally decades that Democrats are evil and want to destroy America. But mainly all their listeners did about that was shout at the TV.

Then came Donald Trump's election.

Suddenly, the hateful claims by the bad Americans listed above had "legitimacy". The KKK and white nationailsts killed someone at Charlottesville? The president said there were very fine people on both sides. Hey! Now you don't have to be ashamed to be a white nationalist! The president said you were a very fine person!

A Trump supporter sends bombs through the mail, trying to assassinate two United States presidents and others? "It's the media's fault!" says the president. "The fake news are the Enemy of the People!"

A guy gets drunk and walks into an office full of people he's never met, threatening to kill them? The real surprise is that it took so long for that to happen.

And on and on and on and on.

President Donald J. Trump has given legitimacy to hate groups. They LOVE him. There's a reason for that - they believe he is one of them. Why would they believe that?

Because although President Trump disavows that in his speeches, his actions speak louder and mean more than his words.

And you can't unring a bell.

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Reply #78 posted 10/29/18 3:35pm

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Camileyun said:

RodeoSchro said:




Yep! The campaign formally reported him to the FBI. I don't know yet if the FBI has interviewed him but apparently his excuse for the whole episode was that he had "one too many martinis at lunch".

I'll keep abreast of the situation. I'm pretty sure that at some point, he and I are going to have a talk.

BTW, this guy threatened to kill a whole office full of people - not just my son. His stated intention was not be just a murderer, but a mass murderer. His "apology" was that he hoped someone else killed them all.

I also found out he's in his 60's. I thought earlier he was a young guy. But no, he's even older than me!

What in the Sam Hill gets into a fully-grown man to make him decide that marching into an office full of people he's never met, and threatening to kill them all, is a good idea?

Not just booze. That kind of hatred has there way before he drank that first martini.

Wow, how scary and traumatic. I hope they have him in custody (He's a powder keg) but it sounds like he's not. It's hard, lately, not to come to the conclusion that middle-aged men are in crisis in this country. Glad your son and his office are o.k.



It's one of these guys:

https://home.wellsfargoad...1500050253

I know which one it ISN'T. One of these guys and I coached basketball together, and our sons played with and against each other their whole school lives. If it had been him, my son would have told me.

I'll find out soon. All I have to do is call the Nassau Bay, Texas police department and ask for a copy of the police report.

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Reply #79 posted 10/29/18 4:02pm

13cjk13

RodeoSchro said:

13cjk13 said:

Trump is the motherfucking problem. Deal with it.



He's the catalyst, but sadly he isn't the root.

The root is Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Savage, Levin, etc etc etc. These bad Americans have told their listeners for literally decades that Democrats are evil and want to destroy America. But mainly all their listeners did about that was shout at the TV.

Then came Donald Trump's election.

Suddenly, the hateful claims by the bad Americans listed above had "legitimacy". The KKK and white nationailsts killed someone at Charlottesville? The president said there were very fine people on both sides. Hey! Now you don't have to be ashamed to be a white nationalist! The president said you were a very fine person!

A Trump supporter sends bombs through the mail, trying to assassinate two United States presidents and others? "It's the media's fault!" says the president. "The fake news are the Enemy of the People!"

A guy gets drunk and walks into an office full of people he's never met, threatening to kill them? The real surprise is that it took so long for that to happen.

And on and on and on and on.

President Donald J. Trump has given legitimacy to hate groups. They LOVE him. There's a reason for that - they believe he is one of them. Why would they believe that?

Because although President Trump disavows that in his speeches, his actions speak louder and mean more than his words.

And you can't unring a bell.

I know there have been horrible people like Limbaugh and Coulter, but adding this monster to the mix is what has really caused the most damage. It's sickening.

"Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost".
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Reply #80 posted 10/29/18 4:44pm

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Camileyun said:

RodeoSchro said:



You're trying too hard.

Don't think so. You may just be wrong.

Or you're wrong. If the leader of the KKK and the White Natoinalist movement likes you - there is a reason.

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #81 posted 10/29/18 4:58pm

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13cjk13 said:

djThunderfunk said:


If a psycho that loves trump sends bombs, it's because trump. If a psycho that hates trump shoots up a synagogue, it's because trump. blahblah

Deranged nonsense.


Trump is the motherfucking problem. Deal with it.


Sounds like you're the one with issues to "deal with". I'm good.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #82 posted 10/29/18 5:16pm

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"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #83 posted 10/29/18 5:28pm

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So the first service is tomorrow. The Mayor just asked Trump to come visit another time, that tomorrow is not a good time, especially when the city's police force is needed for the services tomorrow. He said that this should be about the victims and not the President and his visit will stretch the city too thin.

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Reply #84 posted 10/29/18 6:59pm

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Prayers and peace to all the victims' families. Thank goodness both the magabomber and the synagogue assassin are both in custody. Damn shame what's going on in this country.
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Reply #85 posted 10/29/18 7:00pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:



Camileyun said:


RodeoSchro said:




You're trying too hard.



Don't think so. You may just be wrong.


Or you're wrong. If the leader of the KKK and the White Natoinalist movement likes you - there is a reason.


Exactly.
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Reply #86 posted 10/29/18 8:39pm

13cjk13

djThunderfunk said:

13cjk13 said:

Trump is the motherfucking problem. Deal with it.


Sounds like you're the one with issues to "deal with". I'm good.

My issue im dealing with is the most fucking deplorable, racist, piece of shit president this nation has ever seen. Cool that you're good.

"Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost".
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Reply #87 posted 10/30/18 4:29am

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Camileyun said:

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All but 1 have said that they don't want him there. Do you not understand that this President shows no empathy? That he can not put this Nation or these people at ease? The 1st words out of his mouth was, they should have had a security guard. eek Seriously? That's what he says??

Then shame on them for politicizing this tragedy (never let a crisis go to waste). What gives them the right to speak for all of Pittsburgh? In my mind, this is part of the President's job, whomever it is. If the families of the victims prefer he not show up, then he should rethink his plans.

They are not the ones who are politicizing this tragedy....

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Reply #88 posted 10/30/18 4:30am

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The good Rabbi has it right...principles before politics.

Then trump needs to stay the hell away.

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Reply #89 posted 10/30/18 5:49am

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Camileyun said:

PennyPurple said: Then shame on them for politicizing this tragedy (never let a crisis go to waste). What gives them the right to speak for all of Pittsburgh? In my mind, this is part of the President's job, whomever it is. If the families of the victims prefer he not show up, then he should rethink his plans.

They are not the ones who are politicizing this tragedy....


As far as I can tell, EVERYONE is politicizing this tragedy. The maga bomber too. For sure everbody in this forum is.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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