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TRUMP FAMILY SUSPECT OF ENGAGING IN HUGE TAX SCHEMES

I am sure you all have seen the breaking story from the NYT 18 month investigation:

https://www.nytimes.com/i...trump.html


Seems Trump is hero of the tax evaders and that he was much much much more dependent on daddy's money than he claimed. He is a liar and a thief. THIS IS WHO HE IS.


star star star star star New York State Tax Dept is reviewing FRAUD allegations. star star star star star










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Reply #1 posted 10/03/18 7:33am

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...and the statutes of limitations will prevent anyone going to jail. neutral
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Reply #2 posted 10/03/18 7:53am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

...and the statutes of limitations will prevent anyone going to jail. neutral



But not from paying what is owed, plus interest. And penalties.

Although I highly, highly doubt this will happen, it is possible that a tax audit could find the Trump clan owes more money to state and federal agencies than they could possibly pay.

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Reply #3 posted 10/03/18 7:59am

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Saying he got at least 60 million from his old man, not the small stake he claims. Self-made my azz.

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Reply #4 posted 10/03/18 8:10am

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poppys said:


Saying he got at least 60 million from his old man, not the small stake he claims. Self-made my azz.



More like $413 million in today's dollars.

I've seen lots of analyses of Trump's initial stake and it's worth today and they all say that given what he started with, he underperformed relative to almost any other asset class you can name.

And those were analyses that gave him a whole lot less than $413 million to start with, or to get over a period of time.

People tend to forget that this dude went broke twice - in 1990-91, and then again in 2004. If it wasn't for his daddy, Donald Trump would have been in personal bankruptcy court.

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Reply #5 posted 10/03/18 8:17am

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poppys said:


Saying he got at least 60 million from his old man, not the small stake he claims. Self-made my azz.



More like $413 million in today's dollars.

I've seen lots of analyses of Trump's initial stake and it's worth today and they all say that given what he started with, he underperformed relative to almost any other asset class you can name.

And those were analyses that gave him a whole lot less than $413 million to start with, or to get over a period of time.

People tend to forget that this dude went broke twice - in 1990-91, and then again in 2004. If it wasn't for his daddy, Donald Trump would have been in personal bankruptcy court.


The 60 million was quoting CBS news this morning. That's the stake from his Dad instead of the 1 million.

I haven't forgotten. I lived in Manhattan when all that went down. The everyman stories coming out of Atlantic City were truly heartbreaking. He wrecked that place and moved on.

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Reply #6 posted 10/03/18 8:40am

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RodeoSchro said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


...and the statutes of limitations will prevent anyone going to jail. neutral



But not from paying what is owed, plus interest. And penalties.

Although I highly, highly doubt this will happen, it is possible that a tax audit could find the Trump clan owes more money to state and federal agencies than they could possibly pay.



States i think are far more aggressive in collecting than federal.
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Reply #7 posted 10/03/18 8:42am

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Even f he wasn’t lying, it must be nice being able to get “a small one million dollar loan” from daddy.

He always made it out like it was nothing. lol
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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Even f he wasn’t lying, it must be nice being able to get “a small one million dollar loan” from daddy. He always made it out like it was nothing. lol


Oh, please - he was on Daddy's payroll well into his adult years and everytime he effed up (like at one casino that was losng untold milloins) Daddy wold send a guy to go in and by 3 million dollars worth of chips and then leave with the chips in his bag - so it would appear that the casino got a sudden surplus in order to pay its debts.




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Reply #9 posted 10/03/18 11:34am

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When his father (another racist dickhead) was dying, Donny tried to get control of all the money. The old man stopped that, thinking the monster he created was going to take all of it for himself to pay off his debts. -The View today

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Reply #10 posted 10/03/18 11:48am

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At least a million of us would put up a $1000 if it helped Trump on the tax errors made by his team of accountants. If it went to building the Wall. If we do that and find new ways to tax megachurches we can build the Wall. YES WE CAN

I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #11 posted 10/03/18 11:50am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

At least a million of us would put up a $1000 if it helped Trump on the tax errors made by his team of accountants. If it went to building the Wall. If we do that and find new ways to tax megachurches we can build the Wall. YES WE CAN



Oh boy
lol

How about just pay his taxes on that money. That would go a ways to build his moronic wall.
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Reply #12 posted 10/03/18 11:59am

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RodeoSchro said:

poppys said:


Saying he got at least 60 million from his old man, not the small stake he claims. Self-made my azz.



More like $413 million in today's dollars.

I've seen lots of analyses of Trump's initial stake and it's worth today and they all say that given what he started with, he underperformed relative to almost any other asset class you can name.

And those were analyses that gave him a whole lot less than $413 million to start with, or to get over a period of time.

People tend to forget that this dude went broke twice - in 1990-91, and then again in 2004. If it wasn't for his daddy, Donald Trump would have been in personal bankruptcy court.

Trump is no conman like Osteen is what you are trying to say.

I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #13 posted 10/03/18 12:02pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:



RodeoSchro said:




poppys said:



Saying he got at least 60 million from his old man, not the small stake he claims. Self-made my azz.





More like $413 million in today's dollars.

I've seen lots of analyses of Trump's initial stake and it's worth today and they all say that given what he started with, he underperformed relative to almost any other asset class you can name.

And those were analyses that gave him a whole lot less than $413 million to start with, or to get over a period of time.

People tend to forget that this dude went broke twice - in 1990-91, and then again in 2004. If it wasn't for his daddy, Donald Trump would have been in personal bankruptcy court.




Trump is no conman like Osteen is what you are trying to say.




lol

I’m not even sure if this is just part of the “character” you say you are playing here or not.
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Reply #14 posted 10/03/18 1:23pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

At least a million of us would put up a $1000 if it helped Trump on the tax errors made by his team of accountants. If it went to building the Wall. If we do that and find new ways to tax megachurches we can build the Wall. YES WE CAN

Oh boy lol How about just pay his taxes on that money. That would go a ways to build his moronic wall.

This would be politically a great compromise. Ultimate form of "No Taxation without Representation." Use Trump's taxes to build the WALL. GENIUS!

I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #15 posted 10/03/18 1:43pm

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At least a million of us would put up a $1000 if it helped Trump on the tax errors made by his team of accountants. If it went to building the Wall. If we do that and find new ways to tax megachurches we can build the Wall. YES WE CAN


Please do. I’m going to send you a private message with his account details, you can make a transference as early as today if you want to. And if you can find one million people willing to pay please share with them my I mean Trump’s details.
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Silvertongue7 said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

At least a million of us would put up a $1000 if it helped Trump on the tax errors made by his team of accountants. If it went to building the Wall. If we do that and find new ways to tax megachurches we can build the Wall. YES WE CAN

Please do. I’m going to send you a private message with his account details, you can make a transference as early as today if you want to. And if you can find one million people willing to pay please share with them my I mean Trump’s details.

lol yeah, um... I got an acount you can deposit into as well lol

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BUILD THE WALL WITH TRUMPS BACK TAXES. WHO IS WITH ME?

I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #18 posted 10/03/18 2:01pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

BUILD THE WALL WITH TRUMPS BACK TAXES. WHO IS WITH ME?



I am!

But he has to pay them first.

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Trump is no conman like Osteen is what you are trying to say.

lol I’m not even sure if this is just part of the “character” you say you are playing here or not.



He's trying to get me to buy him a steak dinner. Which I have already said I'd be happy to do!

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Reply #20 posted 10/03/18 2:03pm

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RodeoSchro said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

BUILD THE WALL WITH TRUMPS BACK TAXES. WHO IS WITH ME?



I am!

But he has to pay them first.


A) I guarantee Trump will not cop to owing back taxes rolleyes
B) The wall rolleyes

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

BUILD THE WALL WITH TRUMPS BACK TAXES. WHO IS WITH ME?



Me me me! And arrested for fraud and tax evasion right! We need him prosecuted too right!?

Yay!
Let’s do this! lol
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Reply #22 posted 10/03/18 2:08pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:



RodeoSchro said:




poppys said:



Saying he got at least 60 million from his old man, not the small stake he claims. Self-made my azz.





More like $413 million in today's dollars.

I've seen lots of analyses of Trump's initial stake and it's worth today and they all say that given what he started with, he underperformed relative to almost any other asset class you can name.

And those were analyses that gave him a whole lot less than $413 million to start with, or to get over a period of time.

People tend to forget that this dude went broke twice - in 1990-91, and then again in 2004. If it wasn't for his daddy, Donald Trump would have been in personal bankruptcy court.




Trump is no conman like Osteen is what you are trying to say.


Trump is a conman. That’s how he works. He conned you didn’t he? LMAO. You see he knows the puppets that would believe any lie he passes off as his truth. He wasn’t a self-made millionaire. He lies his way through life.
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Reply #23 posted 10/03/18 2:13pm

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RodeoSchro said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


SuperFurryAnimal said:



Trump is no conman like Osteen is what you are trying to say.



lol I’m not even sure if this is just part of the “character” you say you are playing here or not.



He's trying to get me to buy him a steak dinner. Which I have already said I'd be happy to do!



Hope to meet sometime for steak and iced tea. But I honestly believe Osteen is a con and I say that as a friend. I believe all the megachurch pastors with multimillionaire status and they have 10 million dollar homes are cons for fact they are using religion and God to get millions when they could live more humble and help more people with money.
I think we can all collectively say.
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2elijah said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:



RodeoSchro said:




poppys said:



Saying he got at least 60 million from his old man, not the small stake he claims. Self-made my azz.





More like $413 million in today's dollars.

I've seen lots of analyses of Trump's initial stake and it's worth today and they all say that given what he started with, he underperformed relative to almost any other asset class you can name.

And those were analyses that gave him a whole lot less than $413 million to start with, or to get over a period of time.

People tend to forget that this dude went broke twice - in 1990-91, and then again in 2004. If it wasn't for his daddy, Donald Trump would have been in personal bankruptcy court.




Trump is no conman like Osteen is what you are trying to say.


Trump is a conman. That’s how he works. He conned you didn’t he? LMAO. You see he knows the puppets that would believe any lie he passes off as his truth. He wasn’t a self-made millionaire. He lies his way through life.
[Edited 10/3/18 14:10pm]


He also understands how the political games work. Why did all the politicians and activists buddy buddy him in past. I'll tell you? $$$
I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #25 posted 10/03/18 3:09pm

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As I think we all know - even if we all won't admit - Donald Trump's main goal as president is to make Donald Trump richer. How's that been going?

Not so good.

Forbes says his net worth has gone from $4.3 billion to $3.1 billion since his election. Ouch.

To compound matters, if he'd liquidated his assets and put the money in a blind trust that invested in the stock market, he'd have made $500 million so far.

That's a swing of $1,700,000,000 the wrong way. Ouch.

I will say this - although Forbes is SURELY a conservative, CEO-loving magazine, if you EVER screw them over, they will NEVER forget it.

https://www.forbes.com/si...residency/

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Reply #26 posted 10/03/18 4:46pm

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another day,another Trump scandal lol this one seems really serious
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Reply #27 posted 10/03/18 7:44pm

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That whole trump family is a bunch of crooks.
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RodeoSchro said:

As I think we all know - even if we all won't admit - Donald Trump's main goal as president is to make Donald Trump richer. How's that been going?

Not so good.

Forbes says his net worth has gone from $4.3 billion to $3.1 billion since his election. Ouch.

To compound matters, if he'd liquidated his assets and put the money in a blind trust that invested in the stock market, he'd have made $500 million so far.

That's a swing of $1,700,000,000 the wrong way. Ouch.

I will say this - although Forbes is SURELY a conservative, CEO-loving magazine, if you EVER screw them over, they will NEVER forget it.

https://www.forbes.com/si...residency/



I still say it’s vanity. Stupidity and vanity.
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Reply #29 posted 10/03/18 11:24pm

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Trump is the only president who has a new scandal every few days,lol
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