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Reply #60 posted 09/12/18 11:58am

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In New Zealand, he is a constant source of ridicule and has been since he was running for the President, which is strange as we were less interested in Dubya and were always complimentary with Obama.

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Standard TVNZ One news and TV3 news (Major networks here) - Kiwi stories, Crime tales, something about poverty or someone dying of cancer/leukemia/MS etc and then the Mother Trumperies, 2 or 3 stories that reveal Trump as a complete buffoon. Ad break, then more Trump and American shit on TVNZ and straight to other world news on TV3, then some Islamic news (Usually Syria or the latest terrorist), weather and a whole lot of sports (The amount of rugby and league here is ridiculous).

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We currently have a left wing government that hates his guts and even the right wing opposition see him as an imbecile. ever since we booted out the nukes in 1984, NZ with its mixed population (Maori and British), green outlook, socialist and egalitarian focus along with a strident anti gun policy and atheist outlook, gun happy and born again America appeals to us little. A few right wing nut bars like him though. But 6.10 every night, my partner and I get ready to laugh when we hear the latest crazy shit Trump has done.

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Nearly every item is foreboded by the following words "Embattled US president Donald Trump" and "Unpopular President Trump has signed a law saying he wants to control space and Trump kicks out more Muslims etc. Not front page news anymore, but in most issues of the papers and our cartoonists do hilarious cartoons of him as well. Not 100% interest as we have all our own crap to deal with in this country (Corrupt and hopeless politicians, Heavy traffic in Auckland and all of us having the bejesus tyaxed out of us for the roads and the housing crisis).

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Reply #61 posted 09/12/18 12:01pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

These are comments from Australias current federal politicans and sitting senators. Trump would fit in well. Peter Dutton said that people in Melbourne are scared of going out because of "African gang violence" In March 2018 Dutton made calls to treat white South African farmers, as refugees, stating that "they need help from a civilised country". - the politican who made the above comment about granting special visas for white South Africans is the immigration Minister, who is currently detaining black and brown refugees in concentration camps and refuses to allow them into Australia. In November 2016, Dutton said it was a mistake by the Malcolm Fraser administration to have admitted Lebanese Muslim immigrants. "We're bringing in people from South Africa at the moment. There's a huge amount coming into Australia, who have diseases; they've got AIDS, They are of no benefit to this country whatsoever; they'll never be able to work. And what my main concern is, is the diseases that they're bringing in and yet no one is saying or doing anything about it." - Pauline Hanson told AAP. Indigenous Australians are the most incarcerated by percentage of their population (2,346 per 100,000). In addition to having the highest rate of incarceration in the world, black/indigenous Australians are also faced with the issue of dying in police custody. . [Edited 8/29/18 9:29am]

Us Kiwis laugh at the Aussies, their racism and the fact they can't keep a guy in as PM for more than 3 weeks. Its like we are Canada and they are the US (Kiwis love Canada)

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Yet only some Aussies are like this and unfortunately many of them are politicians like Peter Dutton, Julie Bishop and Pauline Hanson. NZer's like them less now as many NZ Maori born in Australia are deported to Christmas Island for misdemeanours and blamed for all the crime and ganags there (Partly true), yet at the same time, most Australians are groovy and open minded. Shoutout to my cool Aussie mates - peach and Black and Moonbeam, I know these guys do not have a racist drop with in them. Australia is choking under a series of inept right wing government. Also many Australians are descended from a mixture of convicts and a British Patrician class sent to mind them. Kiwis on the other hand are descended from Upper Working Class and Middle Class British free migrants and Maori. Maori were favoured more than Aborigines in the 1800s as they were seen as more "Civilised" and lighter skinned, yet we were still nearly wiped out by disease and some racist wars in the 1860s, and today we still have racists saying all we do is commit crime, claim land and remain on welfare (I am Maori).

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Yet we have our racists who love Trump and the National Front who joined in the "Its great to be white campaign" We even have a racist political party called NZ First run by a half caste Maori who denies his Maoriness called Winston Peters.

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Reply #62 posted 09/12/18 7:08pm

IanRG

Purplegarden said:

hausofmoi7 said:

These are comments from Australias current federal politicans and sitting senators. Trump would fit in well. Peter Dutton said that people in Melbourne are scared of going out because of "African gang violence" In March 2018 Dutton made calls to treat white South African farmers, as refugees, stating that "they need help from a civilised country". - the politican who made the above comment about granting special visas for white South Africans is the immigration Minister, who is currently detaining black and brown refugees in concentration camps and refuses to allow them into Australia. In November 2016, Dutton said it was a mistake by the Malcolm Fraser administration to have admitted Lebanese Muslim immigrants. "We're bringing in people from South Africa at the moment. There's a huge amount coming into Australia, who have diseases; they've got AIDS, They are of no benefit to this country whatsoever; they'll never be able to work. And what my main concern is, is the diseases that they're bringing in and yet no one is saying or doing anything about it." - Pauline Hanson told AAP. Indigenous Australians are the most incarcerated by percentage of their population (2,346 per 100,000). In addition to having the highest rate of incarceration in the world, black/indigenous Australians are also faced with the issue of dying in police custody. . [Edited 8/29/18 9:29am]

Us Kiwis laugh at the Aussies, their racism and the fact they can't keep a guy in as PM for more than 3 weeks. Its like we are Canada and they are the US (Kiwis love Canada)

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Yet only some Aussies are like this and unfortunately many of them are politicians like Peter Dutton, Julie Bishop and Pauline Hanson. NZer's like them less now as many NZ Maori born in Australia are deported to Christmas Island for misdemeanours and blamed for all the crime and ganags there (Partly true), yet at the same time, most Australians are groovy and open minded. Shoutout to my cool Aussie mates - peach and Black and Moonbeam, I know these guys do not have a racist drop with in them. Australia is choking under a series of inept right wing government. Also many Australians are descended from a mixture of convicts and a British Patrician class sent to mind them. Kiwis on the other hand are descended from Upper Working Class and Middle Class British free migrants and Maori. Maori were favoured more than Aborigines in the 1800s as they were seen as more "Civilised" and lighter skinned, yet we were still nearly wiped out by disease and some racist wars in the 1860s, and today we still have racists saying all we do is commit crime, claim land and remain on welfare (I am Maori).

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Yet we have our racists who love Trump and the National Front who joined in the "Its great to be white campaign" We even have a racist political party called NZ First run by a half caste Maori who denies his Maoriness called Winston Peters.

[Edited 9/12/18 12:23pm]

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As an Australian, I love New Zealand and New Zealanders and recognise that you are nicer people than us - The US / Canada analogy is one I have made before. It is good to see you recognise the issue known as Winston - your racist current Deputy Prime Minister in coalition with the broadly left wing Labour Party, having previously wrecked a right wing government coalition from this position.

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The common point is, sure countries round the world can point to individuals with some of Trump's ineptitudes, but no one can find one as bad as him.

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Reply #63 posted 09/13/18 1:28am

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IanRG said:

Purplegarden said:

Us Kiwis laugh at the Aussies, their racism and the fact they can't keep a guy in as PM for more than 3 weeks. Its like we are Canada and they are the US (Kiwis love Canada)

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Yet only some Aussies are like this and unfortunately many of them are politicians like Peter Dutton, Julie Bishop and Pauline Hanson. NZer's like them less now as many NZ Maori born in Australia are deported to Christmas Island for misdemeanours and blamed for all the crime and ganags there (Partly true), yet at the same time, most Australians are groovy and open minded. Shoutout to my cool Aussie mates - peach and Black and Moonbeam, I know these guys do not have a racist drop with in them. Australia is choking under a series of inept right wing government. Also many Australians are descended from a mixture of convicts and a British Patrician class sent to mind them. Kiwis on the other hand are descended from Upper Working Class and Middle Class British free migrants and Maori. Maori were favoured more than Aborigines in the 1800s as they were seen as more "Civilised" and lighter skinned, yet we were still nearly wiped out by disease and some racist wars in the 1860s, and today we still have racists saying all we do is commit crime, claim land and remain on welfare (I am Maori).

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Yet we have our racists who love Trump and the National Front who joined in the "Its great to be white campaign" We even have a racist political party called NZ First run by a half caste Maori who denies his Maoriness called Winston Peters.

[Edited 9/12/18 12:23pm]

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As an Australian, I love New Zealand and New Zealanders and recognise that you are nicer people than us - The US / Canada analogy is one I have made before. It is good to see you recognise the issue known as Winston - your racist current Deputy Prime Minister in coalition with the broadly left wing Labour Party, having previously wrecked a right wing government coalition from this position.

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The common point is, sure countries round the world can point to individuals with some of Trump's ineptitudes, but no one can find one as bad as him.

If, God help us all, this guy actually had any power...... If he was sitting in the White House, he'd be at least as bad as Trump. I give you BoJo the Clown:

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Reply #64 posted 09/13/18 3:54am

Purplegarden

Boris Johnson even looks a bit like Trump, horrible man, but his appearance on Who do you think you are, so a human side, descended ferom Jews and Turks!, he had one regal princess who got "caught with her tits in the wringer" when she married a commoner (The Jew and their grandchild married a Young Turk called Osman).

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Meanwhile, Ms Charmbracelet herself - Pauline Hanson (Seriously if you don't know who she is, google her, racist uneducated piece of trailer trash) thereatened to boot a 9 year old girl's behind as she refuses to sing the Australian National anthem over deference to aboriginal people.

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And Hanson is a huge Trump fan, applauding his moves to stop immigrants,

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Reply #65 posted 09/13/18 4:00am

Purplegarden

IanRG said:

Purplegarden said:

Us Kiwis laugh at the Aussies, their racism and the fact they can't keep a guy in as PM for more than 3 weeks. Its like we are Canada and they are the US (Kiwis love Canada)

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Yet only some Aussies are like this and unfortunately many of them are politicians like Peter Dutton, Julie Bishop and Pauline Hanson. NZer's like them less now as many NZ Maori born in Australia are deported to Christmas Island for misdemeanours and blamed for all the crime and ganags there (Partly true), yet at the same time, most Australians are groovy and open minded. Shoutout to my cool Aussie mates - peach and Black and Moonbeam, I know these guys do not have a racist drop with in them. Australia is choking under a series of inept right wing government. Also many Australians are descended from a mixture of convicts and a British Patrician class sent to mind them. Kiwis on the other hand are descended from Upper Working Class and Middle Class British free migrants and Maori. Maori were favoured more than Aborigines in the 1800s as they were seen as more "Civilised" and lighter skinned, yet we were still nearly wiped out by disease and some racist wars in the 1860s, and today we still have racists saying all we do is commit crime, claim land and remain on welfare (I am Maori).

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Yet we have our racists who love Trump and the National Front who joined in the "Its great to be white campaign" We even have a racist political party called NZ First run by a half caste Maori who denies his Maoriness called Winston Peters.

[Edited 9/12/18 12:23pm]

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As an Australian, I love New Zealand and New Zealanders and recognise that you are nicer people than us - The US / Canada analogy is one I have made before. It is good to see you recognise the issue known as Winston - your racist current Deputy Prime Minister in coalition with the broadly left wing Labour Party, having previously wrecked a right wing government coalition from this position.

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The common point is, sure countries round the world can point to individuals with some of Trump's ineptitudes, but no one can find one as bad as him.

Fortunately Winston is 73 and has been muzzled, our stupid MMP system ensures some dodgy 3rd party usually choses a coalition with either National (Right Capitalist greed) or Labour (Left Socialist Handouts) and Winnie has held the balance 3 times, his party attracts the racists and oldies who get all their perks under a super annuants card that gives discounted things and today a free doctors and optometrists appointment annually. Winnie will be irrelevant next election, and Labour should hopefully win it easily with the lunatic fringe Green Party (Whinging people over plastic bags and battery hen farms).

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Last year, after the election, he made us wait 3 weeks until he chose to go with Labour. He has calmed down with the racism (Mostly in the 2000s he bashed Asian (Chinese) migrants for not assimilating, causing drug crime and Triadism and bleeding the welfare system), yet his views ring popular for a large sector of the community. Maoris in general are incredibly racist - some Maori gangs even incorporate Nazi ideology and many times its a Maori who assaults a Muslim or tells an Asian to "F off back to where they came from". Maori's aren't black (Asians) and that makes them look daft. Yet most maori like other Kiwis hate Trump.

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Reply #66 posted 09/13/18 4:42am

IanRG

Boris, Winston, Pauline and I will throw in Geert Wilders or Trump? It is all relative, but I still think Trump trumps the the rest.

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Reply #67 posted 09/13/18 11:36am

maplenpg

Lianachan said:

IanRG said:

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As an Australian, I love New Zealand and New Zealanders and recognise that you are nicer people than us - The US / Canada analogy is one I have made before. It is good to see you recognise the issue known as Winston - your racist current Deputy Prime Minister in coalition with the broadly left wing Labour Party, having previously wrecked a right wing government coalition from this position.

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The common point is, sure countries round the world can point to individuals with some of Trump's ineptitudes, but no one can find one as bad as him.

If, God help us all, this guy actually had any power...... If he was sitting in the White House, he'd be at least as bad as Trump. I give you BoJo the Clown:

Trust me, I'd like to punch BoJo in the face, but I do think there is one more dangerous than him, dare I say more dangerous even than Trump. Yep - it's the Mogg.



It never ceases to amaze me how cruel humans can be against fellow humans and animals, especially when in the pursuit of money and power.
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Reply #68 posted 09/13/18 3:09pm

IanRG

maplenpg said:

Trust me, I'd like to punch BoJo in the face, but I do think there is one more dangerous than him, dare I say more dangerous even than Trump. Yep - it's the Mogg.



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Wow, we may have a winner - he even looks Dickensian!

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Reply #69 posted 09/13/18 4:43pm

Purplegarden

IanRG said:

maplenpg said:

Trust me, I'd like to punch BoJo in the face, but I do think there is one more dangerous than him, dare I say more dangerous even than Trump. Yep - it's the Mogg.



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Wow, we may have a winner - he even looks Dickensian!

Agree, as Vyvian would say "What an Utter BASTARD". My final opinion - FUCK CAPITALISM!

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Reply #70 posted 09/14/18 7:58am

maplenpg

IanRG said:

maplenpg said:

Trust me, I'd like to punch BoJo in the face, but I do think there is one more dangerous than him, dare I say more dangerous even than Trump. Yep - it's the Mogg.



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Wow, we may have a winner - he even looks Dickensian!

He doesn't just look it, he acts it. A vile man who I detest more every time he is given some air play.

It never ceases to amaze me how cruel humans can be against fellow humans and animals, especially when in the pursuit of money and power.
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Reply #71 posted 09/14/18 11:49am

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maplenpg said:



IanRG said:




maplenpg said:


Trust me, I'd like to punch BoJo in the face, but I do think there is one more dangerous than him, dare I say more dangerous even than Trump. Yep - it's the Mogg.






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Wow, we may have a winner - he even looks Dickensian!



He doesn't just look it, he acts it. A vile man who I detest more every time he is given some air play.



I love how out of touch he is. I don't know too much about him, only what I see when he's on TV or when he gets a mention in Private Eye. But if this whole politics thing doesn't work out for him I'd say he could make a decent living as a comedian. The only problem with that is that I don't think he realises how much of a dickhead he is so he probably doesn't understand why people would laugh at him.

Can you imagine a world where he's the British PM and Trump is the US President? The sad thing is, this could happen. You have to laugh. If only so you don't cry.
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Reply #72 posted 09/20/18 4:29pm

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Ok non Americans, so did us electing Trump as President effect the way you think of us? Do you think we’re dumber now, or is he something you’d about expect from us lol
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Reply #73 posted 09/20/18 9:18pm

Purplegarden

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Ok non Americans, so did us electing Trump as President effect the way you think of us? Do you think we’re dumber now, or is he something you’d about expect from us lol

Some of you may be less intelligent, but I also know many of you are not and many of you have his guts and can see through him like water.

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What I know is only 51% of the electorate voted and of those, 46% voted for Trump making an actual 23.46% of the Electorate voted for him, next to 24.48% of votes of Hillary, but your corrupt college of state oligarchs called the Electoral College, choose Trump over Hillary and thus he got in.

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Some negative stereotypes, but read on the positives are coming Because of some of the popular culture that is rammed down our throats like, GUN USAGE Kardashians, McDonalds, gunboat imperialism, 9/11 harping on about/Rap music/shitty tv like Florabama shore, greed and avarice, worshipping of money, profiting from human misery, treatment of minorities (Particulary African Americans, Islamic people, Hispanic and Native Americans)- opinions of the USA were fairly low, we generally see Americans as arrogant, vulgar, bombastic, lacking in class and decorum and over dominant and generally offensively racist along with being too rich, war mongering and gung ho over most things. However Trump is seen as a product of the offensive free for all aggressive capitalistic culture America spews up.

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Yet after this ear ful, we know America has many POSITIVE aspects too, democracy, patriotism, good health, many individuals who have progressed human kind in many ways. We also appreciate the USA's contribution to technology, human rights (JFK, MLK, Obama etc), the era of conmvenient living, mechanisation, especially popular music! and some aspects of global village, computers and the fact some Americans are the opposite of Trump and his rednecks and are just wonderful human beings - Like a certain Mr Nelson and Mr Jackson. Plus personally us whinging Brits and Commonwealth people appreciate you guys speak a reasonably competent version of the English language and dialogue with you Americans is very easy.

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I am more shocked Trump has lasted this long and he has not been moved from office, impeached or assassinated yet. Yet most of us know this awful thing is NOT representative of every American and in fact represents fewer than we think! and that a whole country can not be judged and rubbished by the actions of a vocal and visible minority in power.

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All I can ask, is just to keep resisting this status quo, vote with your feet and minds and follow the preamble to your noble constitution (Except the gun bit), is "WE THE PEOPLE" keep remembering you are the people and follow the example of the forefathers who saw the need for change. the spirit of Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Henry, Revere and others lives in you and you can use it to make change for the Positive.

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