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Reply #450 posted 09/14/18 11:42am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Musicslave said:



DiminutiveRocker said:


WAPO latest - Manafort may sing after all!

https://www.washingtonpos...671096131a


Manafort in talks with prosecutors about possible plea, according to people familiar with the discussions




September 11 at 10:36 PM

Days before in-person jury ­selection is set to begin in his second trial, President Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort is in talks with the special counsel’s office about a possible plea deal, according to two people with knowledge of the discussions.


The people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to ­describe the conversations, cautioned that the negotiations may not result in a deal with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, who is prosecuting Manafort for alleged money laundering and lobbying violations.


But the discussions indicate a possible shift in strategy for Manafort, who earlier this year chose to go to trial in Virginia, only to be convicted last month in Alexandria federal court on eight counts of bank and tax fraud. He had derided his former business partner, Rick Gates, for striking a deal with prosecutors that provided him leniency in exchange for testimony against Manafort.


“I had hoped and expected my business colleague would have had the strength to continue the battle to prove our innocence,” Manafort said in February.




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Well, well, well. Looks who's warming up their throats. I hope his honey lemon tea works. "me, me, me, me, meeeee." lol lol lol lol lol


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We'll see how this pans out though. Just had to laugh at just the possibility of him copping a plea deal.



He probably started reading the new Woodward book lol

In the book i kinda felt sorry for him. Trump treated him like crap. Trump treats everyone like crap, but still. After reading the book, I can not for the life of me see why ANYONE would remain loyal to someone who has been as awful to everyone as Trump has been.


Don't feel sorry for Manafort- he's a douchebag just like Fat Donnie
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Reply #451 posted 09/14/18 11:57am

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jjhunsecker said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:
He probably started reading the new Woodward book lol In the book i kinda felt sorry for him. Trump treated him like crap. Trump treats everyone like crap, but still. After reading the book, I can not for the life of me see why ANYONE would remain loyal to someone who has been as awful to everyone as Trump has been.
Don't feel sorry for Manafort- he's a douchebag just like Fat Donnie


I have no sympathy for ANY of them. They are not sorry they broke the law - just sorry they got caught. Fuckers.

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Reply #452 posted 09/14/18 12:12pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:



jjhunsecker said:


Ugot2shakesumthin said:
He probably started reading the new Woodward book lol In the book i kinda felt sorry for him. Trump treated him like crap. Trump treats everyone like crap, but still. After reading the book, I can not for the life of me see why ANYONE would remain loyal to someone who has been as awful to everyone as Trump has been.

Don't feel sorry for Manafort- he's a douchebag just like Fat Donnie


I have no sympathy for ANY of them. They are not sorry they broke the law - just sorry they got caught. Fuckers.



They broke the law and are now just plain broke and in a shitload of trouble.
Crooked Donnie. Lock him up!
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Reply #453 posted 09/14/18 12:22pm

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jjhunsecker said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said: Don't feel sorry for Manafort- he's a douchebag just like Fat Donnie


I have no sympathy for ANY of them. They are not sorry they broke the law - just sorry they got caught. Fuckers.

As Robert Blake's old TV character Baretta used to say " If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".... biggrin

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Reply #454 posted 09/14/18 1:35pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:


I have no sympathy for ANY of them. They are not sorry they broke the law - just sorry they got caught. Fuckers.

As Robert Blake's old TV character Baretta used to say " If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".... biggrin

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Reply #455 posted 09/14/18 3:11pm

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Tucker Carlson had Michael Avenatti on his show.

The caption for Avenatti whenever he was on camera was “creepy porn lawyer”

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Crooked Donnie. Lock him up!
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Reply #456 posted 09/15/18 9:03am

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More tired of the creepy Fox dumb ass.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #457 posted 09/15/18 1:05pm

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Regarding Manafort flipping, it's important to remember that if anyone in the Trump campaign was the obvious Russian connection, it is Manafort, the decades long Russian stooge.

I mean, Trump has pretty obvious connections of his own with all the money laundering, but Manafort came out of nowhere, while broke, to offer to run the Trump campaign everyone assumed would fail, for free.

Unless we live in ultra double hell world and there really was no Russian connection despite all the smoke, Manafort is clearly the guy who knows where shit is buried, and he's now willing to testify.

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Reply #458 posted 09/15/18 1:14pm

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herb4 said:

Regarding Manafort flipping, it's important to remember that if anyone in the Trump campaign was the obvious Russian connection, it is Manafort, the decades long Russian stooge.

I mean, Trump has pretty obvious connections of his own with all the money laundering, but Manafort came out of nowhere, while broke, to offer to run the Trump campaign everyone assumed would fail, for free.

Unless we live in ultra double hell world and there really was no Russian connection despite all the smoke, Manafort is clearly the guy who knows where shit is buried, and he's now willing to testify.



The flip of the decade. He's the new John Dean. wink

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Reply #459 posted 09/16/18 4:51pm

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jjhunsecker said:



DiminutiveRocker said:




jjhunsecker said:


Ugot2shakesumthin said: Don't feel sorry for Manafort- he's a douchebag just like Fat Donnie


I have no sympathy for ANY of them. They are not sorry they broke the law - just sorry they got caught. Fuckers.




As Robert Blake's old TV character Baretta used to say " If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".... biggrin



Yeah the more I read about Manafort the worse it gets. He’s been involved in shady shit for a LOOOOONG time. Since the first Bush years.
Crooked Donnie. Lock him up!
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Reply #460 posted 09/17/18 11:31am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

jjhunsecker said:

As Robert Blake's old TV character Baretta used to say " If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".... biggrin

Yeah the more I read about Manafort the worse it gets. He’s been involved in shady shit for a LOOOOOOOOOONG time. Since the first Bush years.


If he wants to avoid lesser prison time he will sing out loud and clear. Waiting to see what his deal is....

popcorn

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Reply #461 posted 09/17/18 11:36am

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DiminutiveRocker said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


jjhunsecker said:



As Robert Blake's old TV character Baretta used to say " If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".... biggrin



Yeah the more I read about Manafort the worse it gets. He’s been involved in shady shit for a LOOOOONG time. Since the first Bush years.


If he wants to avoid lesser prison time he will sing out loud and clear. Waiting to see what his deal is....

popcorn



He will implicate a LOT of folks. A whole lot of folks. But he probably knows better than talking too much as the types of folks he could implicate, such as Russian mafia figures are known to go out of their way to get rid of people.
Crooked Donnie. Lock him up!
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Reply #462 posted 09/17/18 11:53am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

jjhunsecker said:

As Robert Blake's old TV character Baretta used to say " If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".... biggrin

Yeah the more I read about Manafort the worse it gets. He’s been involved in shady shit for a LOOOOOOOOOONG time. Since the first Bush years.

So, naturally he was 45's go to for campaign manager. All the best!!

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Reply #463 posted 09/17/18 2:23pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

jjhunsecker said: Yeah the more I read about Manafort the worse it gets. He’s been involved in shady shit for a LOOOOOOOOOONG time. Since the first Bush years.

So, naturally he was 45's go to for campaign manager. All the best!!


His campaign vetted no one and so 45 thinks he is above being vetted about all his inproprieties as well. Good luck with that!

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Reply #464 posted 09/17/18 2:53pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

jjhunsecker said:

As Robert Blake's old TV character Baretta used to say " If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".... biggrin

Yeah the more I read about Manafort the worse it gets. He’s been involved in shady shit for a LOOOOOOOOOONG time. Since the first Bush years.


So has Trump, both with the NY/NJ mob as well as the Russians. THAT'S why we're not allowed to see his finances.

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Reply #465 posted 09/17/18 4:01pm

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herb4 said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


jjhunsecker said:



As Robert Blake's old TV character Baretta used to say " If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".... biggrin



Yeah the more I read about Manafort the worse it gets. He’s been involved in shady shit for a LOOOOONG time. Since the first Bush years.


So has Trump, both with the NY/NJ mob as well as the Russians. THAT'S why we're not allowed to see his finances.



Yep, and that’s where the whole thing will come apart. You can’t completly hide behind shell companies, if they dig deep enough everyone knows they will get a lot of shit on him.
Crooked Donnie. Lock him up!
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Reply #466 posted 09/18/18 7:00am

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Trump is declassifying certain documents related to the Russian investigation:



https://www.businessinsid...act-2018-9


Former law-enforcement officials and national security experts sounded the alarm on Monday, after the White House announced that President Donald Trump had ordered the immediate declassification of select portions of an FBI application to surveil a former Trump campaign aide.

The warrant to monitor that aide, Carter Page, was granted under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The Department of Justice (DOJ) released the application, with significant redactions, earlier this year amid heightened cries from Trump and his Republican allies that the FBI had planted a spy within his campaign to cripple it during the 2016 election.

On Monday, Trump demanded the declassification of several pages of a June 2017 application to renew the Page FISA warrant, as well as FBI interviews and reports connected to the surveillance.

David Kris, the former assistant attorney general for national security and an expert on FISA, didn't mince words when he reacted to the news.


"The release of FISAs like this is off the charts," he wrote. "It is especially unprecedented considering that the FISAs have already gone through declassification review and the President is overruling the judgments of his subordinates to require expanded disclosure."

Joyce Alene Vance, a longtime former federal prosecutor, largely agreed.

"Releasing FISA materials compromises national security," she wrote. "Publicly releasing evidence during an ongoing criminal investigation is unprecedented."


On Monday, Trump asked the DOJ and FBI to declassify pages 10 to 12 and 17 to 34 of the Page FISA application.

One of those sections appears to relate to the time period that Page worked on Trump's campaign as a foreign policy adviser.

Trump did not ask the DOJ and FBI to declassify subsequent portions of the document that detail Page's activities and Russian efforts to recruit him as an agent before he joined the campaign.

The president also did not order the declassification of another part of the document that details information Page provided to the FBI during an earlier interview, or sections that go over Russia's attempts to recruit New York City residents as intelligence assets.

While the Trump campaign has sought to distance itself from Page after he drew scrutiny, the former adviser testified to the House Intelligence Committee last year that he had several contacts with Russia-linked individuals, at times with the campaign's knowledge.


His testimony also appeared to corroborate key sections of the Steele dossier, a collection of explosive memos by the former British spy Christopher Steele that alleges collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

[Edited 9/18/18 7:03am]

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Reply #467 posted 09/18/18 12:38pm

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benni said:

Trump is declassifying certain documents related to the Russian investigation:



https://www.businessinsid...act-2018-9


Former law-enforcement officials and national security experts sounded the alarm on Monday, after the White House announced that President Donald Trump had ordered the immediate declassification of select portions of an FBI application to surveil a former Trump campaign aide.

The warrant to monitor that aide, Carter Page, was granted under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The Department of Justice (DOJ) released the application, with significant redactions, earlier this year amid heightened cries from Trump and his Republican allies that the FBI had planted a spy within his campaign to cripple it during the 2016 election.

On Monday, Trump demanded the declassification of several pages of a June 2017 application to renew the Page FISA warrant, as well as FBI interviews and reports connected to the surveillance.

David Kris, the former assistant attorney general for national security and an expert on FISA, didn't mince words when he reacted to the news.


"The release of FISAs like this is off the charts," he wrote. "It is especially unprecedented considering that the FISAs have already gone through declassification review and the President is overruling the judgments of his subordinates to require expanded disclosure."

Joyce Alene Vance, a longtime former federal prosecutor, largely agreed.

"Releasing FISA materials compromises national security," she wrote. "Publicly releasing evidence during an ongoing criminal investigation is unprecedented."


On Monday, Trump asked the DOJ and FBI to declassify pages 10 to 12 and 17 to 34 of the Page FISA application.

One of those sections appears to relate to the time period that Page worked on Trump's campaign as a foreign policy adviser.

Trump did not ask the DOJ and FBI to declassify subsequent portions of the document that detail Page's activities and Russian efforts to recruit him as an agent before he joined the campaign.

The president also did not order the declassification of another part of the document that details information Page provided to the FBI during an earlier interview, or sections that go over Russia's attempts to recruit New York City residents as intelligence assets.

While the Trump campaign has sought to distance itself from Page after he drew scrutiny, the former adviser testified to the House Intelligence Committee last year that he had several contacts with Russia-linked individuals, at times with the campaign's knowledge.


His testimony also appeared to corroborate key sections of the Steele dossier, a collection of explosive memos by the former British spy Christopher Steele that alleges collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

[Edited 9/18/18 7:03am]


Who is advising Trump, the ghost of RM Nixon?

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Reply #468 posted 09/18/18 8:35pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

benni said:

Trump is declassifying certain documents related to the Russian investigation:



https://www.businessinsid...act-2018-9


Former law-enforcement officials and national security experts sounded the alarm on Monday, after the White House announced that President Donald Trump had ordered the immediate declassification of select portions of an FBI application to surveil a former Trump campaign aide.

The warrant to monitor that aide, Carter Page, was granted under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The Department of Justice (DOJ) released the application, with significant redactions, earlier this year amid heightened cries from Trump and his Republican allies that the FBI had planted a spy within his campaign to cripple it during the 2016 election.

On Monday, Trump demanded the declassification of several pages of a June 2017 application to renew the Page FISA warrant, as well as FBI interviews and reports connected to the surveillance.

David Kris, the former assistant attorney general for national security and an expert on FISA, didn't mince words when he reacted to the news.


"The release of FISAs like this is off the charts," he wrote. "It is especially unprecedented considering that the FISAs have already gone through declassification review and the President is overruling the judgments of his subordinates to require expanded disclosure."

Joyce Alene Vance, a longtime former federal prosecutor, largely agreed.

"Releasing FISA materials compromises national security," she wrote. "Publicly releasing evidence during an ongoing criminal investigation is unprecedented."


On Monday, Trump asked the DOJ and FBI to declassify pages 10 to 12 and 17 to 34 of the Page FISA application.

One of those sections appears to relate to the time period that Page worked on Trump's campaign as a foreign policy adviser.

Trump did not ask the DOJ and FBI to declassify subsequent portions of the document that detail Page's activities and Russian efforts to recruit him as an agent before he joined the campaign.

The president also did not order the declassification of another part of the document that details information Page provided to the FBI during an earlier interview, or sections that go over Russia's attempts to recruit New York City residents as intelligence assets.

While the Trump campaign has sought to distance itself from Page after he drew scrutiny, the former adviser testified to the House Intelligence Committee last year that he had several contacts with Russia-linked individuals, at times with the campaign's knowledge.


His testimony also appeared to corroborate key sections of the Steele dossier, a collection of explosive memos by the former British spy Christopher Steele that alleges collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

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Who is advising Trump, the ghost of RM Nixon?


It almost sounds like it, doesn't it? He just gets worse every day. You would think that as he is learning what it means to be president, he'd get better at it, but it's getting scary now.

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Reply #469 posted 09/18/18 9:20pm

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benni said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Who is advising Trump, the ghost of RM Nixon?


It almost sounds like it, doesn't it? He just gets worse every day. You would think that as he is learning what it means to be president, he'd get better at it, but it's getting scary now.



He doesn't want to learn anything. Could car less about democracy or the constitution or the people of this country. I don't even think he cares about the people at those freaky rallys. But.... something's gotta give.

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Reply #470 posted 09/19/18 1:51pm

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Here come some new jokes from Late night tv hosts maybe SNL, etc.:

The new details of her alleged meeting with Trump at Lake Tahoe in 2006, revealed for the first time in Daniels' book, "Full Disclosure," include a salacious description of his genitalia.
"His penis is distinctive in a certain way, and I sometimes think that's one of the reasons he initially didn't tweet at me like he does so many women," Daniels wrote. "He knew I could pick his d*** out of a lineup. He knows he has an unusual penis. It has a huge mushroom head. Like a toadstool."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/18/politics/stormy-daniels-book/index.html

biggrin eek razz lol

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Reply #471 posted 09/21/18 12:13pm

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Any updates on Flynn?

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Reply #472 posted 09/22/18 1:12pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

Any updates on Flynn?

Former top Trump official revises statement to Mueller team about Michael Flynn's Russia contacts



A former top Trump official has changed her tune regarding what she knew about disgraced national security adviser Michael Flynn's Russian contacts.

K.T. McFarland, who worked on the Trump campaign, served as deputy national security adviser and was nominated by the President to be the ambassador to Singapore, has reportedly revised statements she made to special counsel Robert Mueller's office about Flynn, according to the Washington Post.

McFarland initial claim that she never talked to Flynn about his discussions with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about sanctions during the transition period following the 2016 election was contradicted by Flynn's guilty plea last year, The Post reports.

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So...more lies basically. Seriously, for those that cry "with hunt", WHY ALL THE LIES?



http://www.nydailynews.co...story.html


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Reply #473 posted 09/24/18 4:14am

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The U.S. intelligence community, for its part, is prohibited from investigating domestic political affairs. James Clapper, the former director of National Intelligence, told me, “We try not to spy on Americans. It’s not in our charter.” He emphasized that, although he and other intelligence officials produced—and shared with Trump—a postelection report confirming an extensive cyberattack by Russia, the assessment did not attempt to gauge how this foreign meddling had affected American voters. Speaking for himself, however, he told me that “it stretches credulity to think the Russians didn’t turn the election.”

Politicians may be too timid to explore the subject, but a new book from, of all places, Oxford University Press promises to be incendiary. “Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President—What We Don’t, Can’t, and Do Know,” by Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a professor of communications at the University of Pennsylvania, dares to ask—and even attempts to answer—whether Russian meddling had a decisive impact in 2016. Jamieson offers a forensic analysis of the available evidence and concludes that Russia very likely delivered Trump’s victory.


The book, which is coming out less than two months before the midterm elections, at a moment when polls suggest that some sixty per cent of voters disapprove of Trump, may well reignite the question of Trump’s electoral legitimacy. The President’s supporters will likely characterize the study as an act of partisan warfare. But in person Jamieson, who wears her gray hair in a pixie cut and favors silk scarves and matronly tweeds, looks more likely to suspend a troublemaker than to be one. She is seventy-one, and has spent forty years studying political speeches, ads, and debates. Since 1993, she has directed the Annenberg Public Policy Center, at Penn, and in 2003 she co-founded FactCheck.org, a nonpartisan watchdog group. She is widely respected by political experts in both parties, though her predominantly male peers have occasionally mocked her scholarly intensity, calling her the Drill Sergeant. As Steven Livingston, a professor of political communication at George Washington University, puts it, “She is the epitome of a humorless, no-nonsense social scientist driven by the numbers. She doesn’t bullshit. She calls it straight.”

Indeed, when I met recently with Jamieson, in a book-lined conference room at the Annenberg Center, in Philadelphia, and asked her point-blank if she thought that Trump would be President without the aid of Russians, she didn’t equivocate. “No,” she said, her face unsmiling. Clearly cognizant of the gravity of her statement, she clarified, “If everything else is a constant? No, I do not.”


https://www.newyorker.com...-for-trump

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Reply #474 posted 09/24/18 7:24am

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Rob Goldstone, the one that helped to set up the infamous Trump Tower meeting, states that he wishes he had never set up the meeting:

"I'm willing to believe that I don't know who wanted this meeting," Rob Goldstone told NBC's Cynthia McFadden in a wide-ranging interview, in which he also discussed Trump's behavior in Moscow during the 2013 Miss Universe pageant.

Asked if he had conveyed a "dirty offer" to the Trump team in brokering the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting, Goldstone said, "Yes. That is true."

"That [dirt] didn't materialize," said Goldstone, but he believes the apparent willingness of campaign officials to accept dirt is what drew the scrutiny of congressional investigators and special counsel Robert Mueller.




https://www.nbcnews.com/p...ng-n911851

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Reply #475 posted 09/24/18 8:10am

benni

NBC reporting Rosenstein summoned to WH, WH says he will resign, he says he won't resign and that he will require that they fire him. This may have Vacancy Act implications beyond any issues of principle.

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Reply #476 posted 09/24/18 11:02am

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benni said:

NBC reporting Rosenstein summoned to WH, WH says he will resign, he says he won't resign and that he will require that they fire him. This may have Vacancy Act implications beyond any issues of principle.

If Rosenstein goes it may have serious falllout.

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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DiminutiveRocker said:

benni said:

NBC reporting Rosenstein summoned to WH, WH says he will resign, he says he won't resign and that he will require that they fire him. This may have Vacancy Act implications beyond any issues of principle.

If Rosenstein goes it may have serious falllout.


We keep saying this. Still waiting for "The Mattering".

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Reply #478 posted 09/25/18 8:25am

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True genius is knowing how little
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