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Reply #60 posted 07/31/18 6:04pm

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I bet trump will.

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Not if the Attorney General has a Session with him

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Reply #61 posted 08/01/18 2:08am

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hausofmoi7 said:


13cjk13 said:

That amounts to about 1 day of scandals for this current administration. "PRIVATE SPEECH", YIKES!!!!! Is that kind of like meeting with Putin multiple times with no one else in the room????



Trump being atrocious doesn't take away the fact that on issues such as foreign policy Hillary was just as bad. A super predator you might say. Shouldn't play down what arms sales to Saudi Arabia means. It is to carry out what is now considered a holocaust in Yemen. Hillary and Trump are aware of this. I'm pretty sure Trump has actually exceeded Hillary on that arms deal with Saudi Arabia. . [Edited 7/29/18 7:42am]

Hillary, or anybody else for that matter, could NEVER be as bad at foreign policy as Trump. Period.




Genghis Khan had the worse foreign policy agenda and was the most brutal leader in world history.
That is really not a valid argument or excuse to make in defence of Trump, Hillary or anyone funding or facilating genocides and holocausts in our lifetime.

This is what everyone does to try and defend the genocides and holocausts carried out by thier country and government, and to shut down criticism of such things.

'At least we're not as bad as the Mongols' is a really lame argument for us to make in defence of what is happening here.






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"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #62 posted 08/01/18 2:36pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

13cjk13 said:

Hillary, or anybody else for that matter, could NEVER be as bad at foreign policy as Trump. Period.

Genghis Khan had the worse foreign policy agenda and was the most brutal leader in world history. That is really not a valid argument or excuse to make in defence of Trump, Hillary or anyone funding or facilating genocides and holocausts in our lifetime. This is what everyone does to try and defend the genocides and holocausts carried out by thier country and government, and to shut down criticism of such things. 'At least we're not as bad as the Mongols' is a really lame argument for us to make in defence of what is happening here. . [Edited 8/1/18 6:31am]


And this ^ has ...what to do with Assange?

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #63 posted 08/01/18 3:29pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:



hausofmoi7 said:


13cjk13 said:


Hillary, or anybody else for that matter, could NEVER be as bad at foreign policy as Trump. Period.



Genghis Khan had the worse foreign policy agenda and was the most brutal leader in world history. That is really not a valid argument or excuse to make in defence of Trump, Hillary or anyone funding or facilating genocides and holocausts in our lifetime. This is what everyone does to try and defend the genocides and holocausts carried out by thier country and government, and to shut down criticism of such things. 'At least we're not as bad as the Mongols' is a really lame argument for us to make in defence of what is happening here. . [Edited 8/1/18 6:31am]


And this ^ has ...what to do with Assange?


Nothing.
I'm not the one bringing up Hillary or Trump in this discussion.
So perhaps it actually has everything to do with Julian.
There is a direct correlation between julian publishing the DNC leaks and centrist democrats abondoning Julian and wikileaks, and joining in with Republicans calls for Julian to be prosecuted for Wikileaks.
You are right.
It has nothing to do with his right as a publisher.
But it shows that the reason behind democrats and Republicans chasing julian with pitchforks is politically motivated .

Julian Assange has managed to piss them all off by publishing documents about Bush and Hillary, and also against the current Trump administration.
Publishing of the DNC leaks provided the democratic party and politicans an excuse and reason to justify to thier voters why they were withdrawing support for Julian and Wikileaks, just like Republicans had already done.

None of this is relevant to a publishers right.
But I'm not the one bringing it up.

To answer my own question I asked at the start of this discussion.
A nation not involved with NATO or CIA operations could offer Julian asylum.


Wikileaks has also published information about non NATO nations and those not involved with the CIA, when you also take that into consideration then the list of nations dwindles down even further.
Wikileaks has also published information about the Russian government.


A nation that values press freedom as a principle could and should offer him asylum.
Wikileaks have indiscriminately published information about nearly every nation and different political groups.
So I gather this is the reason why the situation of securing asylum and support for his rights as a publisher becomes so difficult and a complicated one for Wikileaks.






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Reply #64 posted 08/01/18 11:16pm

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Veering off topic kills the thread. Just sayin' neutral

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