independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Tue 18th Dec 2018 3:36pm
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Politics & Religion > Monday Fun Fact: Can humans melt Antarctica?
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 3 of 5 <12345>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #60 posted 08/08/18 10:52am

herb4

avatar

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #61 posted 08/08/18 3:39pm

poppys

^^ 20 years to party Guess that colony on Mars won't be ready yet either.


  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #62 posted 08/09/18 8:58am

2freaky4church
1

avatar

Someone needs to look up Hume's Is-Ought distinction.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #63 posted 08/13/18 12:45am

Dancelot

avatar

TweetyV6 said:

Dancelot said:

bingo. better analogy than the banana smile
the Enola Gay would be the greenhouse gases.

Little Boy (the A-bomb) would be the sun. roughly.


global warming is not done directly by humans placing immersion coils into the oceans. the energy comes from the sun. and the sun produces plenty of energy, certainly enuff for Antarctica

( I know he said this is not about global warming, yet we all know where he's aiming at)





Tweety can you calculate how long it takes for the ice to melt if all the energy of the sun is targeted at Antarcitca ? one minute? three seconds 0.001 milliseconds? it would be like dropping a snowflake onto an hot ofen...

I'm too lazy to do the math. however, if you do, it is all valid basic physics. sure. but it is still an IRRELEVANT point! the Thursday dumb fact, if you want razz

Aaaaaaaaannnnnddd... pulling it further out of context. rolleyes



context? what fucking context???

I thought it was just a "fun fact" ??

so I gave another fun fact in response

quid pro quo, buddy smile sowing bullshit, reaping bullshit

Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #64 posted 08/13/18 4:47am

EmancipationLo
ver

avatar

TweetyV6 said:

So 1 molecule of CO2 (with a very limited UV absorption [=adding energy/ 'heat'] rate) needs to transfer energy to AT LEATS 2.500 surrounding molecules.

.

It is not the UV absorption of CO2 that is relevant, it is its IR absorption.

.

And the IR absorption of CO2 is crystal clear. It's in physical chemistry textbooks.

.

You should get your science straight.

prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #65 posted 08/13/18 6:28am

IanRG

EmancipationLover said:

TweetyV6 said:

So 1 molecule of CO2 (with a very limited UV absorption [=adding energy/ 'heat'] rate) needs to transfer energy to AT LEATS 2.500 surrounding molecules.

.

It is not the UV absorption of CO2 that is relevant, it is its IR absorption.

.

And the IR absorption of CO2 is crystal clear. It's in physical chemistry textbooks.

.

You should get your science straight.

.

There was so much wrong with that post, starting with a blanket only makes you feel warmer. Somehow the heat you retain does not mean you are warmer than if you lost that heat. Just more junk science.

[Edited 8/13/18 13:35pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #66 posted 08/13/18 8:28am

Dancelot

avatar

TweetyV6 said:

And your body does not get warmer under a blanket. It FEELS warmer

haha, I didn' catch that first time smile


alright... and if you close the window during winter it just FEELS warmer, correct? biggrin

in no way a closed window could actually increase temparature by keeping the ovens heat inside the house, right?




maybe because a human window is too insignificnatly small for that lol

Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #67 posted 08/13/18 8:33am

2freaky4church
1

avatar

Tweety is right, the C02 is a blanket. Thanks Tweets.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #68 posted 08/13/18 5:40pm

Ugot2shakesumt
hin

avatar

EmancipationLover said:



TweetyV6 said:


So 1 molecule of CO2 (with a very limited UV absorption [=adding energy/ 'heat'] rate) needs to transfer energy to AT LEATS 2.500 surrounding molecules.



.


It is not the UV absorption of CO2 that is relevant, it is its IR absorption.


.


And the IR absorption of CO2 is crystal clear. It's in physical chemistry textbooks.


.


You should get your science straight.



Tweety should get his science from somewhere other than a climate deniers website.
lol
CROOKED TRUMP. LOCK HIM UP!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #69 posted 08/14/18 12:58pm

herb4

avatar

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

EmancipationLover said:

.

It is not the UV absorption of CO2 that is relevant, it is its IR absorption.

.

And the IR absorption of CO2 is crystal clear. It's in physical chemistry textbooks.

.

You should get your science straight.

Tweety should get his science from somewhere other than a climate deniers website. lol


But...but that would invalidate his entire argument!

What good is that?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #70 posted 08/14/18 3:12pm

2freaky4church
1

avatar

Where else.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #71 posted 08/17/18 1:03am

TweetyV6

avatar

Dancelot said:

TweetyV6 said:

And your body does not get warmer under a blanket. It FEELS warmer

haha, I didn' catch that first time smile


alright... and if you close the window during winter it just FEELS warmer, correct? biggrin

in no way a closed window could actually increase temparature by keeping the ovens heat inside the house, right?




maybe because a human window is too insignificnatly small for that lol


So you end up with a fever every morning you wake up?

FFS, Dance, I thought you'd be a bit more smarter.
A blanket delays the cooling of your body, the rate of heat transfer is decreased.

The higher the rate of heat transfer from your body to an environment, the colder you FEEL.

You can easily sit in a room at 19 Deg. C for a couple of hours.
You won't survive the same amount of time in water of 19 Deg. C, you'll die of hypothermia.

And anyway, comparing the earth with a human body is comparing apples & oranges.
The human body produces heat, the earth doesn't (at least not significantly if you take it as Joules/kg)





[Edited 8/17/18 2:19am]

___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #72 posted 08/17/18 2:00am

TweetyV6

avatar

EmancipationLover said:

TweetyV6 said:

So 1 molecule of CO2 (with a very limited UV absorption [=adding energy/ 'heat'] rate) needs to transfer energy to AT LEATS 2.500 surrounding molecules.

.

It is not the UV absorption of CO2 that is relevant, it is its IR absorption.

.

And the IR absorption of CO2 is crystal clear. It's in physical chemistry textbooks.

.

You should get your science straight.


It's a physical property. Not chemical.
And indeed, it's IR, I mix them up frequently.

But since you have the book at hand, look at H2O.

Or better; look at this and then explain to me how the little dip caused by CO2 will cause global warming, especially when you compare it to the dips caused by H2O


___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #73 posted 08/17/18 2:09am

TweetyV6

avatar

2freaky4church1 said:

Tweety is right, the C02 is a blanket. Thanks Tweets.


Kind of.

Lets say that the Greenhouse Gasses are the blanket.
Then CO2 is the sewingthread used for sewing the stiches of the blanket cover, O2 & O3 are the blanket cover and H2O as gas and condensed as clouds is the filling of the blanket.

That's how you could explain the contribution of the different GH gasses to the GH effect.
At least according to Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, “Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,” Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264

___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #74 posted 08/17/18 2:26am

TweetyV6

avatar

IanRG said:

EmancipationLover said:

.

It is not the UV absorption of CO2 that is relevant, it is its IR absorption.

.

And the IR absorption of CO2 is crystal clear. It's in physical chemistry textbooks.

.

You should get your science straight.

.

There was so much wrong with that post, starting with a blanket only makes you feel warmer. Somehow the heat you retain does not mean you are warmer than if you lost that heat. Just more junk science.

[Edited 8/13/18 13:35pm]


Shouldn't you be bible-thumping?
The book full of science?

What makes you stay warm is the energy produced by your body.
The blanket does NOT add any energy, it delays the energy transfer from your body to the environment. You feel warmer and more comfortable.

I feel sorry for you not even understanding these basic physical principles.

Stick to the christian religion, you're better at that then at the climate religion



___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #75 posted 08/17/18 2:31am

TweetyV6

avatar

Dancelot said:

TweetyV6 said:

And your body does not get warmer under a blanket. It FEELS warmer


alright... and if you close the window during winter it just FEELS warmer, correct? biggrin

in no way a closed window could actually increase temparature by keeping the ovens heat inside the house, right?


Closing the window does not add heat to your house. It delays escape of the heat PRODUCED BY YOUR HEATING SYSTEM

Turn off our heating system and over x time your house will be as cold/warm as the outside temperature. Opening or closing windows only changes x.

___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #76 posted 08/17/18 4:12am

IanRG

TweetyV6 said:

IanRG said:

.

There was so much wrong with that post, starting with a blanket only makes you feel warmer. Somehow the heat you retain does not mean you are warmer than if you lost that heat. Just more junk science.

[Edited 8/13/18 13:35pm]


Shouldn't you be bible-thumping?
The book full of science?

What makes you stay warm is the energy produced by your body.
The blanket does NOT add any energy, it delays the energy transfer from your body to the environment. You feel warmer and more comfortable.

I feel sorry for you not even understanding these basic physical principles.

Stick to the christian religion, you're better at that then at the climate religion



.

You can imagine that people who are religious don't understand science all you like - But it is you who said a blanket does not make you warmer - I pointed out the obvious - the blanket allows you to retain heat that would otherwise be lost. You don't just feel warmer, you are warmer because you have retained this heat - just like global warming.

.

That you cannot tell the difference between retaining and adding is why you can only sprout more junk science.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #77 posted 08/17/18 1:24pm

jaawwnn

avatar

The entire southern hemisphere will be swamped, millions will die in India, and Europe will finally start to be affected by this chaos and Tweety will still be the This is Fine dog. I'm beginning to think Brexiteers have a point if people like him are running Europe.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #78 posted 08/17/18 1:45pm

TweetyV6

avatar

jaawwnn said:

The entire southern hemisphere will be swamped, millions will die in India


Huh?
What? Pls explain.

___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #79 posted 08/17/18 1:57pm

TweetyV6

avatar

IanRG said:

TweetyV6 said:


Shouldn't you be bible-thumping?
The book full of science?

What makes you stay warm is the energy produced by your body.
The blanket does NOT add any energy, it delays the energy transfer from your body to the environment. You feel warmer and more comfortable.

I feel sorry for you not even understanding these basic physical principles.

Stick to the christian religion, you're better at that then at the climate religion



.

You can imagine that people who are religious don't understand science all you like - But it is you who said a blanket does not make you warmer - I pointed out the obvious - the blanket allows you to retain heat that would otherwise be lost. You don't just feel warmer, you are warmer because you have retained this heat - just like global warming.

.

That you cannot tell the difference between retaining and adding is why you can only sprout more junk science.

You see, you don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about.

Your body does not get warmer by covering it with a blanket.

In order to warm something (Increase of temperature) you have to add energy.

Retaining heat will only slow down the loss of temperature. Eventually the system will cool. Unless the system adds energy (which your body does)

What you forget is that your body generates (adding!) heat


Dammit.. go into the woods, find a nice big 1000 pound rock, cover it with a blanket and see if the temperature of the rock will increase.
I bet 1 million $$ it doesn't

___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #80 posted 08/17/18 3:11pm

poppys

As far as I know rocks don't breathe air, you know - the stuff around the rock.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #81 posted 08/17/18 4:16pm

IanRG

TweetyV6 said:

IanRG said:

.

You can imagine that people who are religious don't understand science all you like - But it is you who said a blanket does not make you warmer - I pointed out the obvious - the blanket allows you to retain heat that would otherwise be lost. You don't just feel warmer, you are warmer because you have retained this heat - just like global warming.

.

That you cannot tell the difference between retaining and adding is why you can only sprout more junk science.

You see, you don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about.

Your body does not get warmer by covering it with a blanket.

In order to warm something (Increase of temperature) you have to add energy.

Retaining heat will only slow down the loss of temperature. Eventually the system will cool. Unless the system adds energy (which your body does)

What you forget is that your body generates (adding!) heat


Dammit.. go into the woods, find a nice big 1000 pound rock, cover it with a blanket and see if the temperature of the rock will increase.
I bet 1 million $$ it doesn't

.

It is even easier to imagine that everyone in the world who disagrees with you must be clueless. It just as intellectually moribund.

.

Did you even notice that you are using the same argument that skepticalscience.com used except they used a tailor's dummy instead of a rock. "If you put the blanket on a tailors dummy, which does not generate heat, it will have no effect. The dummy will not spontaneously get warmer. That's obvious too!" This is the article you wrote off as like talking to 5 year olds.

.

Youi only think we have forgotten that body's (be it our's or our planet's) temperature is mix of internal and external factors that result in a balance of heating and cooling effects. However, this is only in your mind. Blankets and anthropogenic climate change are about changes to the balance - not imagining increased (but imperfect) retention is the same as generating new heat. Despite your junk science, the blanket does more than make you feel warmer - it increases heat RETENTION/reduces heat loss so you ARE actually warmer.

.

Junk science is based on misrepresenting facts and others, mixing up facts, missapplying and making up correlations and so missing the causations. You do this all the time, you just don't do it as well as you imagine.

[Edited 8/17/18 16:19pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #82 posted 08/18/18 1:20am

TweetyV6

avatar

IanRG said:

TweetyV6 said:

You see, you don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about.

Your body does not get warmer by covering it with a blanket.

In order to warm something (Increase of temperature) you have to add energy.

Retaining heat will only slow down the loss of temperature. Eventually the system will cool. Unless the system adds energy (which your body does)

What you forget is that your body generates (adding!) heat


Dammit.. go into the woods, find a nice big 1000 pound rock, cover it with a blanket and see if the temperature of the rock will increase.
I bet 1 million $$ it doesn't

.

It is even easier to imagine that everyone in the world who disagrees with you must be clueless. It just as intellectually moribund.

Well, if people with a different opinion then mine present objective, reproducable evidence of their side of the story, then I'm the first to admit I was wrong

.

Did you even notice that you are using the same argument that skepticalscience.com used except they used a tailor's dummy instead of a rock. "If you put the blanket on a tailors dummy, which does not generate heat, it will have no effect. The dummy will not spontaneously get warmer. That's obvious too!" This is the article you wrote off as like talking to 5 year olds.

So we agree that only adding a blanket to something does not result in an increase of temperature?

.

Youi only think we have forgotten that body's (be it our's or our planet's) temperature is mix of internal and external factors that result in a balance of heating and cooling effects. However, this is only in your mind. Blankets and anthropogenic climate change are about changes to the balance - not imagining increased (but imperfect) retention is the same as generating new heat. Despite your junk science, the blanket does more than make you feel warmer - it increases heat RETENTION/reduces heat loss so you ARE actually warmer.

To suprise you, I do agree IF you add time as a dimension.
Condition is that the flux of 'heat' from your body exceeds the generation of the same amount of heat by your body
In that case, your body after an x amount of time will be cooler without blanket than with

.

Junk science is based on misrepresenting facts and others, mixing up facts, missapplying and making up correlations and so missing the causations. You do this all the time, you just don't do it as well as you imagine.

[Edited 8/17/18 16:19pm]


Junk science is when 'scientists' say that a very small fraction of the GH Gasses with very limited energy absorbtion causes our planet to heat up when that physicaly is impossible.

To make their thesis work, they 'invented' an erroneousl feedback mechanism which has not ever been observed but only has been verified by their computer models.

There is only one significant component when it comes to 'temperature control' of our planet: H2O which makes 80-90% of the Green House Effect.

.

[Edited 8/18/18 4:01am]

___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #83 posted 08/18/18 4:54am

IanRG

IanRG said:

.

(1) It is even easier to imagine that everyone in the world who disagrees with you must be clueless. It just as intellectually moribund.

.

(2) Did you even notice that you are using the same argument that skepticalscience.com used except they used a tailor's dummy instead of a rock. "If you put the blanket on a tailors dummy, which does not generate heat, it will have no effect. The dummy will not spontaneously get warmer. That's obvious too!" This is the article you wrote off as like talking to 5 year olds.

.

(3) You only think we have forgotten that body's (be it our's or our planet's) temperature is mix of internal and external factors that result in a balance of heating and cooling effects. However, this is only in your mind. Blankets and anthropogenic climate change are about changes to the balance - not imagining increased (but imperfect) retention is the same as generating new heat. Despite your junk science, the blanket does more than make you feel warmer - it increases heat RETENTION/reduces heat loss so you ARE actually warmer.

.

(4)Junk science is based on misrepresenting facts and others, mixing up facts, missapplying and making up correlations and so missing the causations. You do this all the time, you just don't do it as well as you imagine.

.

TweetyV6 said:

(1) Well, if people with a different opinion then mine present objective, reproducable evidence of their side of the story, then I'm the first to admit I was wrong

.

(2) So we agree that only adding a blanket to something does not result in an increase of temperature?

.

(3) To suprise you, I do agree IF you add time as a dimension.

Condition is that the flux of 'heat' from your body exceeds the generation of the same amount of heat by your body
In that case, your body after an x amount of time will be cooler without blanket than with

.

(4) Junk science is when 'scientists' say that a very small fraction of the GH Gasses with very limited energy absorbtion causes our planet to heat up when that physicaly is impossible.

To make their thesis work, they 'invented' an erroneousl feedback mechanism which has not ever been observed but only has been verified by their computer models.

There is only one significant component when it comes to 'temperature control' of our planet: H2O which makes 80-90% of the Green House Effect.

.

(1) No, history has consistently shown you launch into accusations that the other person is too clueless or whatever so you don't have to instead.

.

(2) This is a perfect example of you being unable to admit you were wrong. The statement you made about blankets was "And your body does not get warmer under a blanket. It FEELS warmer (as the rate of heat transfer is drastically reduced)" This is junk science. You don't just feel warmer, the resulting temperature increase is actually measurable, objective and reproducable. The heat retention loss is slowed and your temperature rises.

.

(3) And another perfect example: After seeking to get me to agree that puting a blanket over you "does not result in an increase of temperature", you are now stating you agree that there will be a measurable increase in temperature with a blanket that without by your statement that "your body after an x amount of time will be cooler without blanket than with"

.

(4) Ineffectively arguing other people's arguments are junk science is not a defence for your junk science.

[Edited 8/18/18 16:12pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #84 posted 08/18/18 6:21am

Ugot2shakesumt
hin

avatar

IanRG said:



IanRG said:


.



(1) It is even easier to imagine that everyone in the world who disagrees with you must be clueless. It just as intellectually moribund.



.



(2) Did you even notice that you are using the same argument that skepticalscience.com used except they used a tailor's dummy instead of a rock. "If you put the blanket on a tailors dummy, which does not generate heat, it will have no effect. The dummy will not spontaneously get warmer. That's obvious too!" This is the article you wrote off as like talking to 5 year olds.



.



(3) You only think we have forgotten that body's (be it our's or our planet's) temperature is mix of internal and external factors that result in a balance of heating and cooling effects. However, this is only in your mind. Blankets and anthropogenic climate change are about changes to the balance - not imagining increased (but imperfect) retention is the same as generating new heat. Despite your junk science, the blanket does more than make you feel warmer - it increases heat RETENTION/reduces heat loss so you ARE actually warmer.



.



(4)Junk science is based on misrepresenting facts and others, mixing up facts, missapplying and making up correlations and so missing the causations. You do this all the time, you just don't do it as well as you imagine.



.


TweetyV6 said:


(1) Well, if people with a different opinion then mine present objective, reproducable evidence of their side of the story, then I'm the first to admit I was wrong



.


(2) So we agree that only adding a blanket to something does not result in an increase of temperature?


.


(3) To suprise you, I do agree IF you add time as a dimension.


Condition is that the flux of 'heat' from your body exceeds the generation of the same amount of heat by your body
In that case, your body after an x amount of time will be cooler without blanket than with


.


(4) Junk science is when 'scientists' say that a very small fraction of the GH Gasses with very limited energy absorbtion causes our planet to heat up when that physicaly is impossible.

To make their thesis work, they 'invented' an erroneousl feedback mechanism which has not ever been observed but only has been verified by their computer models.

There is only one significant component when it comes to 'temperature control' of our planet: H2O which makes 80-90% of the Green House Effect.



.


(1) No, history has consistently shown you launch into accusations that the other person is too clueless or whatever so you don't have to instead.


.


(2) This is a perfect example of you being unable to admit you were wrong. The statement you made about blankets was "And your body does not get warmer under a blanket. It FEELS warmer (as the rate of heat transfer is drastically reduced)" This is junk science. You don't just feel warmer, the resulting temperature increase is actually measurable, objective and reproducable. The heat retention is slowed and your temperature rises.


.


(3) And another perfect example: After seeking to get me to agree that puting a blanket over you "does not result in an increase of temperature", you are now stating you agree that there will be a measurable increase in temperature with a blanket that without by your statement that "your body after an x amount of time will be cooler without blanket than with"


.


(4) Ineffectively arguing other people's arguments are junk science is not a defence for your junk science.




Thank you Ian. That blanket statement is THE “blanket statement” that shows he has no idea what he is talking about and just copies and pastes directly from climate deniers web sites.
CROOKED TRUMP. LOCK HIM UP!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #85 posted 08/18/18 8:05am

2freaky4church
1

avatar

Ian's my Christian brother. Wise beyond years.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #86 posted 08/19/18 11:56pm

Dancelot

avatar

TweetyV6 said:


Dammit.. go into the woods, find a nice big 1000 pound rock, cover it with a blanket and see if the temperature of the rock will increase.
I bet 1 million $$ it doesn't

sigh... sigh

as you might know.... a rock - contrary to a human body - does not posess some metabolism process
(and contrary to a room with an oven inside does not produce heat)

so obviously at this point you are just trolling and covering up your total blanket and "only feels warmer" fuckup

which means I'm outtahere

[Edited 8/20/18 0:20am]

Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #87 posted 08/20/18 3:04am

TweetyV6

avatar

IanRG said:

.

TweetyV6 said:

(1) Well, if people with a different opinion then mine present objective, reproducable evidence of their side of the story, then I'm the first to admit I was wrong

.

(2) So we agree that only adding a blanket to something does not result in an increase of temperature?

.

(3) To suprise you, I do agree IF you add time as a dimension.

Condition is that the flux of 'heat' from your body exceeds the generation of the same amount of heat by your body
In that case, your body after an x amount of time will be cooler without blanket than with

.

(4) Junk science is when 'scientists' say that a very small fraction of the GH Gasses with very limited energy absorbtion causes our planet to heat up when that physicaly is impossible.

To make their thesis work, they 'invented' an erroneousl feedback mechanism which has not ever been observed but only has been verified by their computer models.

There is only one significant component when it comes to 'temperature control' of our planet: H2O which makes 80-90% of the Green House Effect.

.

(1) No, history has consistently shown you launch into accusations that the other person is too clueless or whatever so you don't have to instead.

Bullpoop.
Provide the mathematical equasions which support your statement and I'm willing to correct my statement.

I can't help that YOU don't understand the difference between getting warmer and rate of heat transfer. The rate of heat transfer from (or to) your body defines whether you feel hot, warm, comfortable, chilled, cold or freezing. The blanket reduces the rate of heat transfer from your body to the (colder) surrounding to a level which feels comfortable. The core temperature of your body however will not start to increase. You FEEL warmer with blanket then without.

Here's an educative link. You only have to read the first paragraph/7 lines of text.

.

(2) This is a perfect example of you being unable to admit you were wrong. The statement you made about blankets was "And your body does not get warmer under a blanket. It FEELS warmer (as the rate of heat transfer is drastically reduced)" This is junk science. You don't just feel warmer, the resulting temperature increase is actually measurable, objective and reproducable. The heat retention loss is slowed and your temperature rises.


Reducing loss still means you're loosing energy. Not gaining.
Gaining energy = getting warmer, loosing energy = getting colder.

.

(3) And another perfect example: After seeking to get me to agree that puting a blanket over you "does not result in an increase of temperature", you are now stating you agree that there will be a measurable increase in temperature with a blanket that without by your statement that "your body after an x amount of time will be cooler without blanket than with"


I don't say it got warmer, I'm saying it's getting less cold.
If at t0, when you lie down in your bed, your body temeprature is T0 then at tx with blanket your temperature is Txb and without blanket it will be Txw
Then Txb will be smaller or equal to T0

And Txw will be smaler then Txb

But no way Txb will be bigger then T0

.

(4) Ineffectively arguing other people's arguments are junk science is not a defence for your junk science.

[Edited 8/18/18 16:12pm]


What I'm saying is basic physics. No junk science.
Just because you don't fully understand the mechanisms, you label it junk science.

___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #88 posted 08/20/18 3:14am

TweetyV6

avatar

Dancelot said:

TweetyV6 said:


Dammit.. go into the woods, find a nice big 1000 pound rock, cover it with a blanket and see if the temperature of the rock will increase.
I bet 1 million $$ it doesn't

sigh... sigh

as you might know.... a rock - contrary to a human body - does not posess some metabolism process
(and contrary to a room with an oven inside does not produce heat)

so obviously at this point you are just trolling and covering up your total blanket and "only feels warmer" fuckup

which means I'm outtahere

[Edited 8/20/18 0:20am]

Exactly what I said in reply 74.

TweetyV6 said:


What makes you stay warm is the energy produced by your body.
The blanket does NOT add any energy, it delays the energy transfer from your body to the environment. You feel warmer and more comfortable.


Go to Siberia at -20C, go lie in the snow naked and put a blanket on.
Bet you'll freeze to death within a couple of hours.

___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #89 posted 08/20/18 3:26am

IanRG

TweetyV6 said:

IanRG said:


I don't say it got warmer, I'm saying it's getting less cold.
If at t0, when you lie down in your bed, your body temeprature is T0 then at tx with blanket your temperature is Txb and without blanket it will be Txw
Then Txb will be smaller or equal to T0

And Txw will be smaler then Txb

But no way Txb will be bigger then T0

.

(4) Ineffectively arguing other people's arguments are junk science is not a defence for your junk science.

[Edited 8/18/18 16:12pm]


What I'm saying is basic physics. No junk science.
Just because you don't fully understand the mechanisms, you label it junk science.

.

You simply don't get it. You measurably get warmer under a blanket. People's lives have been saved by raising their temperature with a space blanket. You are only embarrassing yourself.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 3 of 5 <12345>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Politics & Religion > Monday Fun Fact: Can humans melt Antarctica?