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U.S. Reopens Emmett Till Investigation, Almost 63 Years After His Murder

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July 12 2018
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The federal government has quietly revived its investigation into the murder of Emmett Till, the 14-year-old African-American boy whose abduction and killing remains, almost 63 years later, among the starkest and most searing examples of racial violence in the South.

The Justice Department said that its renewed inquiry, which it described in a report submitted to Congress in late March, was “based upon the discovery of new information.” It is not clear, though, whether the government will be able to bring charges against anyone: Most episodes investigated in recent years as part of a federal effort to re-examine racially motivated murders have not led to prosecutions, or even referrals to state authorities.

The Justice Department declined to comment on Thursday, but it appeared that the government had chosen to devote new attention to the case after a central witness, Carolyn Bryant Donham, recanted parts of her account of what transpired in August 1955. Two men who confessed to killing Emmett, only after they had been acquitted by an all-white jury in Mississippi, are dead.

Yet the Till case, which staggered the nation after the boy’s open-coffin funeral and the publication of photographs of his mutilated body, has never faded away, especially in a region still grappling with the horrors of its past. Even in recent years, historical markers about the case have been vandalized.

“I don’t think this is something the South is going to forget easily,” said Joyce Chiles, a former district attorney in Mississippi who was involved in a mid-2000s review of the Till case that concluded with no new charges.

For more than six decades, Emmett’s death has stood as a symbol of Southern racism. The boy was visiting family in Money, Miss., deep in the Mississippi Delta, from Chicago when he went to a store owned by Ms. Donham and her then husband, who was one of the men who ultimately confessed to Emmett’s murder. Emmett was kidnapped and killed days later, his body tethered to a cotton gin fan with barbed wire and then cast into a river.

The case — gruesome and shocking — became a catalyst for the broader civil rights movement.
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hopefully bringing this shameful piecr of united states history will proceed peacefully. hopefully it will go forward with a positive outcome for the nation and the society "for all."
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recasting the line from the pledge of allegiance "with liberty and justice for all."
(including Emmett Till).
imo if his mother were still alive she would stand proud and give a wave of appreciation knowing that she and her son would finally be at rest.
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Reply #1 posted 07/12/18 11:43pm

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I don't know how much new information can be uncovered now. Most of the people involved are dead.
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Reply #2 posted 07/13/18 7:49am

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As a humon I am interested in the findings. What I know of the case some people got away with a horrible crime.

As a smat preson me think no one involved that is alive should say anything at all about it... I used to watch that show "Cold Case" and I would think: If I had done something so long ago (10, 20, 30, 60 years) I would say nothing and if asked about feeling guilty or wanting to get it off my chest... I would WANT to say "I have two choices: confess and feel bad in prison or say nothing and feel bad at home... I will stay at home."

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Reply #3 posted 07/13/18 7:54am

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Trump thinks this will help him with African Americans. It will remind them how his followers are similar thinkers of race hate.

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Reply #4 posted 07/13/18 9:12am

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: https://www.google.com/am...ant-1/amp/
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Carolyn Bryant-Donham
is a woman from Mississippi, infamous for her role in the murder, torture, and kidnapping of 14-year-old Emmet Till in 1955.
NOW years after the horrific murder of Emmett Till:
In a January 26, 2017 article by Vanity Fair, it was revealed that Carolyn had admitted that it was not true that ill had made verbal and physical advances on her and that she had fabricated parts of the story. Carolyn had made the admission while being interviewed in 2007 by author Timothy Tyson, for his book, The Blood of Emmett Till. Carolyn had told Tyson “That part’s not true,”, about her claim that Till had made verbal and physical advances on her. As for the rest of what happened that evening in the country store, she said she couldn’t remember.
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imo a closer is needed.
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Reply #5 posted 07/13/18 9:18am

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she embellished her story.
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Reply #6 posted 07/13/18 12:26pm

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free2bFreeda2 said:

: https://www.google.com/am...ant-1/amp/ ----》 Carolyn Bryant-Donham is a woman from Mississippi, infamous for her role in the murder, torture, and kidnapping of 14-year-old Emmet Till in 1955. NOW years after the horrific murder of Emmett Till: In a January 26, 2017 article by Vanity Fair, it was revealed that Carolyn had admitted that it was not true that ill had made verbal and physical advances on her and that she had fabricated parts of the story. Carolyn had made the admission while being interviewed in 2007 by author Timothy Tyson, for his book, The Blood of Emmett Till. Carolyn had told Tyson “That part’s not true,”, about her claim that Till had made verbal and physical advances on her. As for the rest of what happened that evening in the country store, she said she couldn’t remember. SO imo a closer is needed. [Edited 7/13/18 9:20am]

Bitch should be shot and dumped into the fucking river.

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Reply #7 posted 07/13/18 12:31pm

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I don't know how much new information can be uncovered now. Most of the people involved are dead.


Maybe most but not all. It ain't over until it's over, and this ain't over.

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Reply #8 posted 07/13/18 3:17pm

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poppys said:

leftcoast said:

I don't know how much new information can be uncovered now. Most of the people involved are dead.


Maybe most but not all. It ain't over until it's over, and this ain't over.

the woman is in her 80s... and from what I read I could not tell if she lied after the fact to cover for the killers or they killed him do to her lie... either way...it would be hard to convict her for it...even if that happened today--much more so 60+ years ago.

So it is over. This will lead to nothing new. But hey... why not?

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Reply #9 posted 07/13/18 3:57pm

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poppys said:

leftcoast said:

I don't know how much new information can be uncovered now. Most of the people involved are dead.


Maybe most but not all. It ain't over until it's over, and this ain't over.


nod they JUST arrested the Golden State Killer 72 years old - crime spree spanning 1976-1986

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Reply #10 posted 07/13/18 4:27pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

poppys said:


Maybe most but not all. It ain't over until it's over, and this ain't over.


nod they JUST arrested the Golden State Killer 72 years old - crime spree spanning 1976-1986

who else is alive in the Till killing is alive? The accuser who was 21 is now in her 80s... I doubt anyone else that could still be charged is alive.

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Reply #11 posted 07/13/18 4:28pm

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poppys said:


Maybe most but not all. It ain't over until it's over, and this ain't over.


nod they JUST arrested the Golden State Killer 72 years old - crime spree spanning 1976-1986


I saw a show about that guy. He got away with it waaay to long. They've snagged a few old azz Nazis.


CLEVELAND, Ohio - The hunt for Nazi war criminals is winding to its end, 70 years after World War II.

The conviction last week of 94-year-old Oskar Groening in Germany signals the last of the major trials of accused persecutors. Authorities say there are ongoing investigations in the United States and abroad, but they are few.

"The biggest obstacle in these cases is the Grim Reaper,'' said Eli Rosenbaum, who has led the U.S. Justice Department's legal chase for decades. "Ninety-nine percent of the perpetrators have died.''

In the past 25 years, nearly a dozen men from Ohio were accused of aiding the Nazi cause. Some fought the government, lost their cases and were ordered deported. Others left before federal agents reached their front doors.

John Demjanjuk of Seven Hi...he country. He faced nearly 35 years of legal fights with prosecutors from three countries before he died in 2012 at the age of 91. He was convicted in Germany a year earlier for serving as an accessory in the deaths of more than 28,000 people at a death camp in Nazi-occupied Poland.

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uPtoWnNY said:



free2bFreeda2 said:


: https://www.google.com/am...ant-1/amp/ ----》 Carolyn Bryant-Donham is a woman from Mississippi, infamous for her role in the murder, torture, and kidnapping of 14-year-old Emmet Till in 1955. NOW years after the horrific murder of Emmett Till: In a January 26, 2017 article by Vanity Fair, it was revealed that Carolyn had admitted that it was not true that ill had made verbal and physical advances on her and that she had fabricated parts of the story. Carolyn had made the admission while being interviewed in 2007 by author Timothy Tyson, for his book, The Blood of Emmett Till. Carolyn had told Tyson “That part’s not true,”, about her claim that Till had made verbal and physical advances on her. As for the rest of what happened that evening in the country store, she said she couldn’t remember. SO imo a closer is needed. [Edited 7/13/18 9:20am]



Bitch should be shot and dumped into the fucking river.


I don’t know how after all these years, with her knowing she lied, his she was able to sleep comfortable at night. I have no sympathy for her st all. She should be locked up with whomever was also involved, and still alive today,
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2elijah said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Bitch should be shot and dumped into the fucking river.

I don’t know how after all these years, with her knowing she lied, his she was able to sleep comfortable at night. I have no sympathy for her st all. She should be locked up with whomever was also involved, and still alive today,


Ugh, I know. Unconscionable disbelief

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2freaky4church1 said:

Trump thinks this will help him with African Americans. It will remind them how his followers are similar thinkers of race hate.


Hell no it won’t. His racist rhetoric is no different, than the racist rhetoric of the monsters who were involved in the murder of Emmett Till.
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Reply #15 posted 07/14/18 8:16am

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It's just so sad.

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Reply #16 posted 07/15/18 6:14am

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There was an author on tv this morning who wrote s book about Emmet Till’s murder, and he said something interesting which is so true. He said: (Paraphrase) “America's history is full of unpunished crimes”.
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2elijah said:

There was an author on tv this morning who wrote s book about Emmet Till’s murder, and he said something interesting which is so true. He said: (Paraphrase) “America's history is full of unpunished crimes”.


neutral we cannot deny that - not sure if that makes us worse than other countries or on par, but our image or brand is that we are better... nope.

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Reply #18 posted 07/15/18 11:43am

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2elijah said:

There was an author on tv this morning who wrote s book about Emmet Till’s murder, and he said something interesting which is so true. He said: (Paraphrase) “America's history is full of unpunished crimes”.

and many of them are a direct result of the "no snitch" mentality. Look at 2Pac's murder 30 witness but nobody saw nothing? A dozen murders and many other crimes committed each week in some cities and no one saw anything.

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Reply #19 posted 07/15/18 12:44pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



2elijah said:


There was an author on tv this morning who wrote s book about Emmet Till’s murder, and he said something interesting which is so true. He said: (Paraphrase) “America's history is full of unpunished crimes”.




and many of them are a direct result of the "no snitch" mentality. Look at 2Pac's murder 30 witness but nobody saw nothing? A dozen murders and many other crimes committed each week in some cities and no one saw anything.


and just like in Emmett Till's murder the cases will continually be viewed and looked at until solved.
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free2bFreeda2 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

and many of them are a direct result of the "no snitch" mentality. Look at 2Pac's murder 30 witness but nobody saw nothing? A dozen murders and many other crimes committed each week in some cities and no one saw anything.

and just like in Emmett Till's murder the cases will continually be viewed and looked at until solved.

which means that if people would come forward more victims and their families would have justice.

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Reply #21 posted 07/15/18 3:28pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



free2bFreeda2 said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:





and many of them are a direct result of the "no snitch" mentality. Look at 2Pac's murder 30 witness but nobody saw nothing? A dozen murders and many other crimes committed each week in some cities and no one saw anything.



and just like in Emmett Till's murder the cases will continually be viewed and looked at until solved.



which means that if people would come forward more victims and their families would have justice.


yup! you are right. finally the woman responsible for the horrific murder of Emmett Till came forward to admit her lies and the cover up torture and killing of a 14yr old boy.
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2elijah said:


There was an author on tv this morning who wrote s book about Emmet Till’s murder, and he said something interesting which is so true. He said: (Paraphrase) “America's history is full of unpunished crimes”.


neutral we cannot deny that - not sure if that makes us worse than other countries or on par, but our image or brand is that we are better... nope.


It seems many of the early/past racial crimes, similar to Emmett Till’s murder, had the book closed on them, and left unsolved, yet it remains a stain in America’s history, post-slavery.

Just think about all the domestic terrorism that weas committed against many Americans of color, and no one punished for it. I’m talking the early 1900s
I mean even in Douglas Blackmon’s book/film documentary titled ‘Slavery by another Nsme’ depicts the crimes committed by corporations/manufacturers/sheriff/police departments, including the kidmapping and false arrests of Blacks, right after WWI, and the many who took part in those crimes/injustices were never punished.
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