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Thread started 05/24/18 10:04am

2freaky4church
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NFL to fine kneeling players; Trump says players should leave country!

Huge drive by shooting against the First Amendent. Jets owner says he will gladly pay all fines. Trump is a totalitarian nut.

This Nazi bitch needs to go.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #1 posted 05/24/18 10:12am

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this is actually a pro-first amendment decision. in this case the free speech belongs to the NFL. Just like with any job the bosses have a right to regulate conduct at work. The NFL actually fumbled the rule by allowing players to say in the dressing room.


As to what trump said: he was out of line. even of he has the same free speech as anyone else, elected officials should be more careful as to what they say.


as to the Jets owner: he ought to be more careful too. that mark cuban found out how fines can add up. and there is likely some tax issues too. And it may also go against pay caps?

[Edited 5/24/18 10:20am]

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Reply #2 posted 05/24/18 10:18am

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He's basically Hitler. He also said that Democrats who didn't stand and applaud for him during his State of the Union address are un-American.

Yes, he's basically Hitler.

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Reply #3 posted 05/24/18 10:21am

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RodeoSchro said:

He's basically Hitler. He also said that Democrats who didn't stand and applaud for him during his State of the Union address are un-American.

Yes, he's basically Hitler.

was brack hitler when he said free speech he did not like dangerous or damaging?

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #4 posted 05/24/18 10:37am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Huge drive by shooting against the First Amendent. Jets owner says he will gladly pay all fines. Trump is a totalitarian nut.

This Nazi bitch needs to go.


Where is your link to back this up?? If you cannot provide one this will get the lock

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Reply #5 posted 05/24/18 11:31am

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luv4u said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Huge drive by shooting against the First Amendent. Jets owner says he will gladly pay all fines. Trump is a totalitarian nut.

This Nazi bitch needs to go.


Where is your link to back this up?? If you cannot provide one this will get the lock

it is all over the news. and trump did say if you do not stand "Maybe you shouldn't be in the country." *not exactly what 2freaky said*

http://www.espn.com/nfl/s...hem-policy


But I find it sad that they compare Trump to Hitler: show a total ignorance of history and is insulting to the millions killed and millions more mistreated and all those that died to stop Hitler.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #6 posted 05/24/18 11:34am

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the topic title seems misleading: the way I read it the NFL will fine teams not players. And that is not what Trump said.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #7 posted 05/24/18 2:00pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



luv4u said:




2freaky4church1 said:


Huge drive by shooting against the First Amendent. Jets owner says he will gladly pay all fines. Trump is a totalitarian nut.



This Nazi bitch needs to go.




Where is your link to back this up?? If you cannot provide one this will get the lock






it is all over the news. and trump did say if you do not stand "Maybe you shouldn't be in the country." *not exactly what 2freaky said*




http://www.espn.com/nfl/s...hem-policy


But I find it sad that they compare Trump to Hitler: show a total ignorance of history and is insulting to the millions killed and millions more mistreated and all those that died to stop Hitler.


I agree with you here. One can say whatever the fuck one wants about Trump, but there are no brownshirts marching through the streets of Washington DC, no Kristallnacht, no concentration camps...
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Reply #8 posted 05/24/18 7:18pm

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He's basically Hitler. He also said that Democrats who didn't stand and applaud for him during his State of the Union address are un-American.

Yes, he's basically Hitler.


you finally agree with my (2016) first opinion and comparison of drumpf-trump being like hitler.
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Reply #9 posted 05/24/18 7:32pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

RodeoSchro said:

He's basically Hitler. He also said that Democrats who didn't stand and applaud for him during his State of the Union address are un-American.

Yes, he's basically Hitler.

was brack hitler when he said free speech he did not like dangerous or damaging?

It's "Barack". Oh, and Trump is garbage.

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Reply #10 posted 05/25/18 5:16am

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13cjk13 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

was brack hitler when he said free speech he did not like dangerous or damaging?

It's "Barack". Oh, and Trump is garbage.

lol barak barack which ever he's trash

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Reply #11 posted 05/25/18 6:30am

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luv4u said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Huge drive by shooting against the First Amendent. Jets owner says he will gladly pay all fines. Trump is a totalitarian nut.

This Nazi bitch needs to go.


Where is your link to back this up?? If you cannot provide one this will get the lock

It's all over the news. I didn't realize that every post created needed a link.


http://nymag.com/daily/in...nthem.html

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Reply #12 posted 05/25/18 7:20am

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13cjk13 said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:




RodeoSchro said:


He's basically Hitler. He also said that Democrats who didn't stand and applaud for him during his State of the Union address are un-American.

Yes, he's basically Hitler.






was brack hitler when he said free speech he did not like dangerous or damaging?



It's "Barack". Oh, and Trump is garbage.



Trump would love to be just like Kim Jung Un and run America like a dictator. He is less than trash, he's a fucking ignorant scumbag.
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Reply #13 posted 05/25/18 7:58am

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jjhunsecker said:

13cjk13 said:

It's "Barack". Oh, and Trump is garbage.

Trump would love to be just like Kim Jung Un and run America like a dictator. He is less than trash, he's a fucking ignorant scumbag.

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Reply #14 posted 05/25/18 9:03am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



luv4u said:




2freaky4church1 said:


Huge drive by shooting against the First Amendent. Jets owner says he will gladly pay all fines. Trump is a totalitarian nut.



This Nazi bitch needs to go.




Where is your link to back this up?? If you cannot provide one this will get the lock






it is all over the news. and trump did say if you do not stand "Maybe you shouldn't be in the country." *not exactly what 2freaky said*




http://www.espn.com/nfl/s...hem-policy


But I find it sad that they compare Trump to Hitler: show a total ignorance of history and is insulting to the millions killed and millions more mistreated and all those that died to stop Hitler.


Come on now. He uses the same hate and divisive tactics as hitler. He is also the son of a man who supported the Kkk and its ideology. He attacks and speaks disrespectfully of non-whites, including immigrants and illegal immigrants of color. He used the old southern strategy during his campaign, and embraced white nationalists and members of known hate grouos. Just don’t get how you cannot see that this is a president with a long history of personal, hatred issues against persons of color, whether American or non-American.
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Reply #15 posted 05/25/18 9:10am

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2elijah said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

it is all over the news. and trump did say if you do not stand "Maybe you shouldn't be in the country." *not exactly what 2freaky said*

http://www.espn.com/nfl/s...hem-policy


But I find it sad that they compare Trump to Hitler: show a total ignorance of history and is insulting to the millions killed and millions more mistreated and all those that died to stop Hitler.

Come on now. He uses the same hate and divisive tactics as hitler. He is also the son of a man who supported the Kkk and its ideology. He attacks and speaks disrespectfully of non-whites, including immigrants and illegal immigrants of color. He used the old southern strategy during his campaign, and embraced white nationalists and members of known hate grouos. Just don’t get how you cannot see that this is a president with a long history of personal, hatred issues against persons of color, whether American or non-American. [Edited 5/25/18 9:07am]

Trump hates everybody. Makes fun of the disabled, our Armed Forces, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice. WOMEN, Football players.

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Reply #16 posted 05/25/18 9:19am

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PennyPurple said:



2elijah said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:





it is all over the news. and trump did say if you do not stand "Maybe you shouldn't be in the country." *not exactly what 2freaky said*




http://www.espn.com/nfl/s...hem-policy


But I find it sad that they compare Trump to Hitler: show a total ignorance of history and is insulting to the millions killed and millions more mistreated and all those that died to stop Hitler.



Come on now. He uses the same hate and divisive tactics as hitler. He is also the son of a man who supported the Kkk and its ideology. He attacks and speaks disrespectfully of non-whites, including immigrants and illegal immigrants of color. He used the old southern strategy during his campaign, and embraced white nationalists and members of known hate grouos. Just don’t get how you cannot see that this is a president with a long history of personal, hatred issues against persons of color, whether American or non-American. [Edited 5/25/18 9:07am]

Trump hates everybody. Makes fun of the disabled, our Armed Forces, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice. WOMEN, Football players.


I am ‘specifically’ speaking about his long history of hate and disrespect towards ‘persons of color.’

It’s no secret about his racist attitude towards many of the Black NFL and NBA players, who kneel during the anthem. His racial prejudice has long been an issue, especially for those New Yorkers who have been aware of this before he ran for office. There’s no sugarcoating his racism. He also has no right to tell any American to leave the country for standing up against racial injustices or exposing it. They have every right to be here, they’re Americans. He’s not indigenous to America, and neither is his family or ancestors, so suggesting that other Americans leave is laughable.
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Reply #17 posted 05/25/18 9:22am

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jjhunsecker said:

13cjk13 said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:




RodeoSchro said:


He's basically Hitler. He also said that Democrats who didn't stand and applaud for him during his State of the Union address are un-American.

Yes, he's basically Hitler.






was brack hitler when he said free speech he did not like dangerous or damaging?



It's "Barack". Oh, and Trump is garbage.



Trump would love to be just like Kim Jung Un and run America like a dictator. He is less than trash, he's a fucking ignorant scumbag.

He’s a sick man with insecurities and ego issues.
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Reply #18 posted 05/25/18 9:23am

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2elijah said:

PennyPurple said:

Trump hates everybody. Makes fun of the disabled, our Armed Forces, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice. WOMEN, Football players.

I am ‘specifically’ speaking about his long history of hate and disrespect towards ‘persons of color.’ It’s no secret about his racist attitude towards many of the Black NFL and NBA players, who kneel during the anthem. His racial prejudice has long been an issue, especially for those New Yorkers who have been aware of this before he ran for office. There’s no sugarcoating his racism. He also has no right to tell any American to leave the country for standing up against racial injustices or exposing it. He’s not indigenous to America, and neither is his family or ancestors, so suggesting that other Americans leave is laughable. [Edited 5/25/18 9:20am]

I agree! That's why I was so surprised that he was even elected.

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PennyPurple said:



2elijah said:


PennyPurple said:


Trump hates everybody. Makes fun of the disabled, our Armed Forces, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice. WOMEN, Football players.



I am ‘specifically’ speaking about his long history of hate and disrespect towards ‘persons of color.’ It’s no secret about his racist attitude towards many of the Black NFL and NBA players, who kneel during the anthem. His racial prejudice has long been an issue, especially for those New Yorkers who have been aware of this before he ran for office. There’s no sugarcoating his racism. He also has no right to tell any American to leave the country for standing up against racial injustices or exposing it. He’s not indigenous to America, and neither is his family or ancestors, so suggesting that other Americans leave is laughable. [Edited 5/25/18 9:20am]

I agree! That's why I was so surprised that he was even elected.


If more people did research on him, before they chose to vote for him, maybe just maybe, they would have never voted for him. During his campaign, he preyed on a specific segment within his voter base, which he knew already held the same racial prejudices he harbored, and he knew he could use them as his puppets to sell his game. That’s part of the southern strategy he used to reel in the white nationalists/Nazi-type supporters. He knows he has that specific, portion of his base, in his pocket, and that he could use them to push/promote the racial division/fear issue and feed them the immigration issue as bait.
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Reply #20 posted 05/25/18 9:46am

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Only is soft on freedom

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Reply #21 posted 05/25/18 10:01am

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Only is soft on freedom

not so, you are. you want to take away the freedom of the NFL to control the conduct of its employees.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #22 posted 05/25/18 10:16am

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They are not slaves sucka.

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Reply #23 posted 05/25/18 10:18am

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PennyPurple said:

2elijah said:

PennyPurple said: I am ‘specifically’ speaking about his long history of hate and disrespect towards ‘persons of color.’ It’s no secret about his racist attitude towards many of the Black NFL and NBA players, who kneel during the anthem. His racial prejudice has long been an issue, especially for those New Yorkers who have been aware of this before he ran for office. There’s no sugarcoating his racism. He also has no right to tell any American to leave the country for standing up against racial injustices or exposing it. He’s not indigenous to America, and neither is his family or ancestors, so suggesting that other Americans leave is laughable. [Edited 5/25/18 9:20am]

I agree! That's why I was so surprised that he was even elected.


Trump's history says a lot about his personal feelings towards black and brown people.

But as a politician, he understands this issue is catnip to his base, which was nursed on generations of the Southern Strategy, and is still infuriated that Barack Obama was ever elected president. He can use these young, talented, defiant and rich black faces to stoke his base's resentments.

The NFL played right into his hands. They pass this vague policy in response to his comments, but try to leave the players an out by saying they can stay in the locker room. Trump just gave them a taste of things to come by mentioning that they shouldn't even be in the locker room, but they should stand and show "respect" or get out of the country.

And football season coincides with the midterms, when Trump will need something to stoke his base. Had the NFL left well enough alone, this could have beenj an old issue. By trying to solve it, they kept it alive.

And Trump, who I bet is still resentful that the NFL spanked him in court over the USFL 30 years ago,will exploit it.

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Reply #24 posted 05/25/18 10:19am

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They are not slaves sucka.

I assume you have a job... yes or do is there a code of conduct for your job?

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Reply #25 posted 05/27/18 10:42am

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Trump should have kept quiet. Free speech means for everyone.

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Reply #26 posted 05/27/18 11:00am

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Trump should have kept quiet. Free speech means for everyone.

wait? what? LOL contradict much?

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Reply #27 posted 05/27/18 12:06pm

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President doesn't have free speech.

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Reply #28 posted 05/27/18 12:56pm

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President doesn't have free speech.

are you sure? I already said he should not have said that... but He sure seems to have free speech. just like with garbage obama yapped off about wanting to shut down free speech he did not like... i said he should not say that and I was roasted for saying he did not have free speech... are you sure you were not one of them?

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namepeace said:



PennyPurple said:




2elijah said:


PennyPurple said: I am ‘specifically’ speaking about his long history of hate and disrespect towards ‘persons of color.’ It’s no secret about his racist attitude towards many of the Black NFL and NBA players, who kneel during the anthem. His racial prejudice has long been an issue, especially for those New Yorkers who have been aware of this before he ran for office. There’s no sugarcoating his racism. He also has no right to tell any American to leave the country for standing up against racial injustices or exposing it. He’s not indigenous to America, and neither is his family or ancestors, so suggesting that other Americans leave is laughable. [Edited 5/25/18 9:20am]

I agree! That's why I was so surprised that he was even elected.




Trump's history says a lot about his personal feelings towards black and brown people.

But as a politician, he understands this issue is catnip to his base, which was nursed on generations of the Southern Strategy, and is still infuriated that Barack Obama was ever elected president. He can use these young, talented, defiant and rich black faces to stoke his base's resentments.

The NFL played right into his hands. They pass this vague policy in response to his comments, but try to leave the players an out by saying they can stay in the locker room. Trump just gave them a taste of things to come by mentioning that they shouldn't even be in the locker room, but they should stand and show "respect" or get out of the country.

And football season coincides with the midterms, when Trump will need something to stoke his base. Had the NFL left well enough alone, this could have beenj an old issue. By trying to solve it, they kept it alive.

And Trump, who I bet is still resentful that the NFL spanked him in court over the USFL 30 years ago,will exploit it.


Yes, good points.
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