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100 people killed so far by the Alt Right. wtf.

Trump has stopped funding to stop his buds:

https://www.alternet.org/...-are-aware

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Reply #1 posted 02/12/18 2:12pm

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Dwayne Dixon, leader of the armed Antifa group Redneck Revolt, has admitted chasing James Fields with a rifle in Charlottesville just before Fields jumped in his car and rammed into people, killing Heather Heyer.

Does Dixon share some blame in Heyer's death?

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Reply #2 posted 02/12/18 2:13pm

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And he'll still keep claiming that Immigration is the issue, while the real terrorists in america are White.
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Reply #3 posted 02/12/18 3:06pm

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Antifa has been quiet for months.

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Reply #4 posted 02/12/18 3:15pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Antifa has been quiet for months.


They're still showing up at every Patriot's Prayer meeting.

No comment about Dwayne Dixon?

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Reply #5 posted 02/14/18 8:30am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Antifa has been quiet for months.


Maybe because they're pussies?

In this video, they slashed tires and attacked people with pepper spray and batons, then, when they're getting their asses kicked, they start whining about it and want to "call the authorites" and complain about being "harassed". "Why are you attacking us?" lol





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Reply #6 posted 02/15/18 7:04am

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I suspect the number is not accurate. I suspect more acts of political violance have been committed by the left than the right.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #7 posted 02/15/18 7:38am

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ANTIFA!! Lions and Tiger and Bears, Oh MY!!!

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Reply #8 posted 02/15/18 7:51am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I suspect the number is not accurate. I suspect more acts of political violance have been committed by the left than the right.

When I posted studies that illustrated the opposite of what you're saying- mainly that the majority of politically motivated violence was committed by identifiable right-wingers, you said that you "refused to accept" those numbers, with absolutely nothing to back up your claims of the opposite. So where are the facts to back up your "suspicions" that it's more committed by left-wingers ?? Or is it just a "feeling" ?

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Reply #9 posted 02/15/18 7:56am

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djThunderfunk said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Antifa has been quiet for months.


Maybe because they're pussies?

In this video, they slashed tires and attacked people with pepper spray and batons, then, when they're getting their asses kicked, they start whining about it and want to "call the authorites" and complain about being "harassed". "Why are you attacking us?" lol





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Aren't the "Proud Boys" an alt-right group ?

From SPLC : The Proud Boys' website says that the fourth degree is reserved for those who have "endured a major conflict related to the cause."[13][14] The SPLC has said this requires the recruit to get into a physical fight with an Antifa activist at a public rally.[15]

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Reply #10 posted 02/15/18 8:09am

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I agree with SE Cupp that the alt right is far worse.

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Reply #11 posted 02/15/18 8:11am

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Radley Balko at Weekly Standard made a good point about Milo. Sure, it is wrong to stop him from his free speech but why do college Republican assholes have to invite him?

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Reply #12 posted 02/15/18 9:09am

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jjhunsecker said:

Aren't the "Proud Boys" an alt-right group ?

From SPLC : The Proud Boys' website says that the fourth degree is reserved for those who have "endured a major conflict related to the cause."[13][14] The SPLC has said this requires the recruit to get into a physical fight with an Antifa activist at a public rally.[15]


They're a right wing conservative group for sure. "Alt-right"? I don't know. I'm also not sure that recruitment claim has been verified.

Regardless, how is it relevent to the video?

The video shows a group confronting some antifas for slashing tires. The antifas spray them with pepper spray and swing batons at them. They kick some antifa ass. Antifas start whining about it even as some of them are still attempting to pepper spray and attack with batons from behind.

Regardless of political affiliation, the people in masks violently attack the people without masks, get an ass kicking then cry about it. Nuff said.


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Reply #13 posted 02/15/18 9:10am

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They are not the left. Nuff said.

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Reply #14 posted 02/15/18 9:17am

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2freaky4church1 said:

They are not the left. Nuff said.


Stop it with that BS!

From wikipedia: "They tend to be anti-capitalist[9] and they are predominantly far-left and militant left,[10][5] which includes anarchists, communists and socialists."

https://en.wikipedia.org/...ed_States)

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Reply #15 posted 02/15/18 9:29am

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Weekapedia.

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Reply #16 posted 02/15/18 9:39am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Weekapedia.


What do you think their politics and motivations are, if not left?

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Reply #17 posted 02/15/18 9:40am

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They are confused.

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Reply #18 posted 02/15/18 9:43am

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2freaky4church1 said:

They are confused.


Agreed.

That said, they THINK they are the left. They PUSH the left. They are SUPPORTED by the left.

They do not represent the moderated left, they absolutely do represent the extreme left.

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Reply #19 posted 02/15/18 9:45am

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djThunderfunk said:

jjhunsecker said:

Aren't the "Proud Boys" an alt-right group ?

From SPLC : The Proud Boys' website says that the fourth degree is reserved for those who have "endured a major conflict related to the cause."[13][14] The SPLC has said this requires the recruit to get into a physical fight with an Antifa activist at a public rally.[15]


They're a right wing conservative group for sure. "Alt-right"? I don't know. I'm also not sure that recruitment claim has been verified.

Regardless, how is it relevent to the video?

The video shows a group confronting some antifas for slashing tires. The antifas spray them with pepper spray and swing batons at them. They kick some antifa ass. Antifas start whining about it even as some of them are still attempting to pepper spray and attack with batons from behind.

Regardless of political affiliation, the people in masks violently attack the people without masks, get an ass kicking then cry about it. Nuff said.


Perhaps because it's one set of extremist assholes battling another set of extremist assholes...

Fuck 'em !

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Reply #20 posted 02/15/18 9:48am

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jjhunsecker said:

Perhaps because it's one set of extremist assholes battling another set of extremist assholes...

Fuck 'em !


When I said the exact same thing about antifa vs. kkk, everybody here defended antifa. Hmmm.

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Reply #21 posted 02/15/18 10:05am

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djThunderfunk said:

jjhunsecker said:

Perhaps because it's one set of extremist assholes battling another set of extremist assholes...

Fuck 'em !


When I said the exact same thing about antifa vs. kkk, everybody here defended antifa. Hmmm.

Since I hate Klansmen, and they would kill ME if given the chance, I'm down with ANYONE fucking them up, killing them if possible, however much I might disagree with them in calmer times

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Reply #22 posted 02/15/18 10:27am

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Bottom line, regardless of the politics of the people in that video, what is evident is:

One group attacked another group with pepper spray and batons (WEAPONS), when the other group started to kick the first groups asses (with FISTS), the first group started whining about it and acted as if there was nothing wrong with what they did and no reason for the other group to defend themselves. If they can't take a punch they shouldn't attack people.

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Reply #23 posted 02/15/18 10:52am

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jjhunsecker said:

djThunderfunk said:


They're a right wing conservative group for sure. "Alt-right"? I don't know. I'm also not sure that recruitment claim has been verified.

Regardless, how is it relevent to the video?

The video shows a group confronting some antifas for slashing tires. The antifas spray them with pepper spray and swing batons at them. They kick some antifa ass. Antifas start whining about it even as some of them are still attempting to pepper spray and attack with batons from behind.

Regardless of political affiliation, the people in masks violently attack the people without masks, get an ass kicking then cry about it. Nuff said.


Perhaps because it's one set of extremist assholes battling another set of extremist assholes...

Fuck 'em !

do you include Heather Heyer in that?

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #24 posted 02/15/18 11:04am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

jjhunsecker said:

Perhaps because it's one set of extremist assholes battling another set of extremist assholes...

Fuck 'em !

do you include Heather Heyer in that?


I'm still waiting for any of the antifa-apologists to acknowledge Dwayne Dixon or his admitted complicity in the death of Heather Heyer.

See reply #1.



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OnlyNDaUsa said:

jjhunsecker said:

Perhaps because it's one set of extremist assholes battling another set of extremist assholes...

Fuck 'em !

do you include Heather Heyer in that?

Did she attack anyone ? Or was she killed innocently protesting ?

I'd hate to see what you thought about John Lewis...

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Reply #26 posted 02/15/18 11:23am

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jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

do you include Heather Heyer in that?

Did she attack anyone ? Or was she killed innocently protesting ?

I'd hate to see what you thought about John Lewis...

Yeah JJ, everyone knows that Heather Heyer was an extremist asshole that was loaded down with machine guns. Breitbart told us.

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13cjk13 said:



jjhunsecker said:




OnlyNDaUsa said:





do you include Heather Heyer in that?



Did she attack anyone ? Or was she killed innocently protesting ?



I'd hate to see what you thought about John Lewis...



Yeah JJ, everyone knows that Heather Heyer was an extremist asshole that was loaded down with machine guns. Breitbart told us.



And we all know if it's on Breitbart, it MUST be true ...
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https://www.huffingtonpos...2c4bea?wtc

White supremacists in the United States killed more than twice as many people in 2017 as they did the year before, and were responsible for far more murders than domestic Islamic extremists, helping make 2017 the fifth deadliest year on record for extremist violence in America, a new report states.

The report, “Murder and Extremism in the United States in 2017,” published Tuesday by the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, said extremists killed 34 people last year. Twenty of those victims — or 59 percent — were killed by right-wing extremists, a designation that includes white supremacists, members of the so-called “alt-right” and “alt-lite,” and members of the anti-government militia movement.

Of the 34 people killed, 18 were murdered by white supremacists, marking a 157 percent increase over the 7 people killed by white supremacists in 2016.

That’s also double the number of people killed by domestic Islamic extremists in 2017. Nine people were killed by domestic Islamic extremists last year, according to the report, eight of whom died in a single attack in New York.

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In 2016, Islamic extremists were responsible for the bulk, about 71 percent, of domestic extremist murders in the U.S. This was largely an “aberration” however, the report states, due to the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Florida, in which Omar Mateen killed 49 people and then pledged his allegiance to ISIS.

2017 marked a reversion back to the long-term trend in America, in which right-wing violence accounts for the majority of murders by domestic extremists.

From 2008 through 2017, according to the ADL, right-wing extremists have killed 274 people. That’s 71 percent of the 387 murders committed by extremists over the past 10 years.

ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE

“Americans do not have the luxury to ignore any extremist threat, including threats posed by white supremacists who are weaponizing social media and are more likely to take their actions into the streets,” Jonathan Greenblatt, the ADL’s CEO, told HuffPost in a statement. “Their actions fuel controversy and conflict and their racist rhetoric and hateful ideas can inspire violence.”

The horror of right-wing extremism gained national attention in August, when more than a thousand white supremacists held a large rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. The assorted racists and fascists, emboldened by President Donald Trump’s election, weren’t ashamed to show their faces, nor did they shy away from violence.

At the end of the rally, James Alex Fields Jr., a member of the far-right extremist group Vanguard America, allegedly drove his car into a crowd of protesters, injuring 19 people and killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer.

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Flowers and a photo of car-ramming victim Heather Heyer lie at a makeshift memorial in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Earlier that year in May, a right-wing extremist named Jeremy Christian allegedly stabbed two men to death aboard a train in Portland, Oregon, as they tried to stop Christian from harassing two teenage girls, one of whom was black and one of whom wore hijab.

Also in May, a University of Maryland student named Sean Urbanski, who belonged to a bigoted Facebook group called “Alt-Reich Nation,” fatally stabbed Richard W. Collins III, an African-American student at Bowie State University. A prosecutor later stated that there was “lots of digital evidence” proving that the murder was racially motivated.

In March, a white supremacist from Maryland named James Harris Jackson, who frequented the alt-right website The Daily Stormer, traveled to New York to kill black men. Using a sword, he fatally stabbed a 66-year-old black man named Timothy Caughman in midtown Manhattan. He then turned himself into police.

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A memorial for Timothy Caughman in New York City.

And in December of last year, two young white supremacists on opposite sides of the country allegedly committed double homicides. In Virginia, 17-year-old Nicholas Giampa, who’d grown enamored with a neo-Nazi group called Atomwaffen Division, killed his girlfriend’s parents after they had convinced their daughter to break up with Giampa because of his racist beliefs. In Aztec, New Mexico, 21-year-old William Atchison, who frequented white supremacist sites like The Daily Stormer, and who had grown obsessed with school shootings, killed two students at a local high school. Atchison took his own life, and Giampa attempted to and remains hospitalized in critical condition.

The increase in right-wing extremist murders helped make 2017 the fifth deadliest year on record for extremist violence since 1970, according to the ADL.

The deadliest attack last year, however, wasn’t committed by a white supremacist, but allegedly by Sayfullo Saipov, an Islamic extremist accused of driving a truck into a bike path lane in lower Manhattan, killing 8 people.

ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE

Although murders by extremists represent only a tiny fraction of the overall murder rate in the U.S. each year, “because of their nature they can have outsized impact, affecting entire communities — or even an entire country — in ways many deaths may not,” the ADL said in its report.

Moreover, the ADL noted, the deaths described in its report represent “the tip of a pyramid of extremist violence and crime in the United States; for each person actually killed by an extremist, many more are wounded or injured in attempted murders and assaults.”

Greenblatt, the ADL CEO, wrote an article in The Atlantic on Tuesday imploring the public to take the threat of right-wing violence more seriously.

“In recent years, much of the public discussion and the federal government’s focus have been on the violent threat posed by extremists inspired by ISIS, while less attention has been paid to the reality of right-wing violence,” Greenblatt wrote. “There’s no doubt that Islamic extremism is a significant threat, but we shouldn’t ignore any forms of extremism — we must tackle them all.”

On Tuesday, Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) said in a tweet that Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen “failed to mention” the threat of domestic terror by white supremacists during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that day.

It is deeply troubling that when talking about threats to our nation, Secretary Nielsen failed to mention a report that talks about some of the most rampant terror attacks that face our nation — domestic acts of terror, including white supremacist extremists.

The Trump administration last year revoked federal funding for a program aimed at de-radicalizing neo-Nazis. And after the deadly white supremacist rally in Charlottesville last August, the president defended the racists who gathered there, saying there were “very fine people on both sides” of that day’s demonstration.

CORRECTION: A previous version of this story indicated Giampa had killed himself. He attempted to, and is hospitalized and in critical condition.

America does not do a good job of tracking incidents of hate and bias. We need your help to create a database of such incidents across the country, so we all know what’s going on. Tell us your story.

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What is "antifa"?



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