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Reply #30 posted 02/12/18 1:05pm

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We should pick a movie. Political movie. Watch it and have a P/R discussion. Any suggestions for the first movie?

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Reply #31 posted 02/12/18 1:16pm

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Furry, watch every Michael Moore masterwork.

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Reply #32 posted 02/12/18 1:26pm

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We should pick a movie. Political movie. Watch it and have a P/R discussion. Any suggestions for the first movie?

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Black Panther is supposed to have some political undertones in its storyline lol

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Reply #33 posted 02/12/18 1:27pm

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Crowder and Ben Shapiro will say the movie is anti white.

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Reply #34 posted 02/12/18 1:37pm

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Why do we need action? Why are so many Americans bored where you need all this action? lol


Don't go see it then. Spend your money on a documentary or some oscar-bait drama.

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Reply #35 posted 02/12/18 1:40pm

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You as well DJ hon.

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Reply #36 posted 02/12/18 1:43pm

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You as well DJ hon.


I'll for sure be watching Black Panther. I've been a comic book fan for over 45 years and I love super hero movies.

I skip most oscar-bait dramas, I do love Malcolm X though.

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Reply #37 posted 02/12/18 1:48pm

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Most of them are good this year DJ.

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Reply #38 posted 02/12/18 1:51pm

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Most of them are good this year DJ.


Most what? Super hero movies or oscar bait dramas? And, how would you know, it's only February.

And... this thread is in the wrong forum.

BTW, finally saw The Post. It was alright but I was highly disappointed in how little attention was given to Daniel Ellsberg. The movie made it out as if the people at the newspaper were the real heroes instead of Ellsberg. I recommend The Pentagon Papers to anybody who's interested in the rest of the story and the herosim of the real whistleblower.

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Reply #39 posted 02/12/18 2:08pm

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Furry, watch every Michael Moore masterwork.

I watched "Bowling for Columbine" and the other flix about GWB. I watch all the classics.

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Reply #40 posted 02/12/18 2:16pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Furry, watch every Michael Moore masterwork.

I watched "Bowling for Columbine" and the other flix about GWB. I watch all the classics.


Roger & Me is a classic, from before Moore went from anti-Clinton to pro-Clinton over night. He lost my respect with that particular flip-flop.

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Reply #41 posted 02/12/18 3:05pm

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DJ you do know Noam Chomsky helped leak the Papers.

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Reply #42 posted 02/12/18 3:09pm

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Mannnn it's a superhero, and he is bad ass and a part of the Marvel canon

majority African cast, come on

Image result for african descendant actors

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Reply #43 posted 02/12/18 3:12pm

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DJ you do know Noam Chomsky helped leak the Papers.


Sure. Chomsky's great and the newspapers did a good thing, but, Ellsberg, as the whistleblower, risked his freedom and his life to get the information out. He's the real hero of the story.

Of course, if Spielberg made a movie that presented Ellsberg as the hero many would see parallels to Snowden, and we can't be presenting Snowden as a hero, now can we.


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Reply #44 posted 02/12/18 3:18pm

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Mannnn it's a superhero, and he is bad ass and a part of the Marvel canon

majority African cast, come on

Image result for african descendant actors



There is a huge gamble going on here. I'm looking more for the response of the African community on this one.

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Reply #45 posted 02/12/18 3:20pm

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djThunderfunk said:

2freaky4church1 said:

You as well DJ hon.


I'll for sure be watching Black Panther. I've been a comic book fan for over 45 years and I love super hero movies.

I skip most oscar-bait dramas, I do love Malcolm X though.

I'm curious -what are your favorite films ?

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Reply #46 posted 02/12/18 3:23pm

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morningsong said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Mannnn it's a superhero, and he is bad ass and a part of the Marvel canon

majority African cast, come on

Image result for african descendant actors



There is a huge gamble going on here. I'm looking more for the response of the African community on this one.


What gamble? Fans loved his appearance in Civil War and have been chomping at the bit for this one ever since and early reviews have been overwhelmingly positive. There is no chance this won't be successful.

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Reply #47 posted 02/12/18 3:25pm

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morningsong said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Mannnn it's a superhero, and he is bad ass and a part of the Marvel canon

majority African cast, come on

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There is a huge gamble going on here. I'm looking more for the response of the African community on this one.

WONDER WOMAN was a huge gamble. A lot of pressure was on that one. It was in the works then pulled, then in the works then pulled for years.

But Black Panther appeared in Marvel Captian America Civil War, and was a hit immediately

Have you read any responses from actual African people?

So far I'm just getting (Black/African-Americans) I do believe though that one of the female stars is African

http://www.sacbee.com/ent...69054.html

Black Panther' takes blockbusters to Africa, and the future

By LINDSEY BAHR AP Film Writer

February 07, 2018 11:20 AM

Updated February 07, 2018 12:47 PM

BEVERLY HILLS, Calif.

For Ryan Coogler, the essence of "Black Panther" came down to one question: What does it mean to be African?

The Oakland-born filmmaker of both "Creed" and "Fruitvale Station" had been given the gargantuan task of shepherding Marvel's iconic superhero to the big screen, with a budget five times bigger than he'd ever had, Hollywood's most powerful studio behind him and the freedom to make "Black Panther" as personal as he wanted. Coogler had made his name creating films about the black experience, but both were about the black American experience. "Black Panther," which opens nationwide next week, was an African story and when Coogler signed on for the movie, he'd never been.

Now, he'd finally get his chance.

"This is the most personal film I've ever made, which is the strangest statement to say because I only make films that are personal," Coogler said. "This film for me started with this question of, 'What does it mean to be African?' It's a question that I've always had since I learned I was black, since my parents sat me down and told me what that was. I didn't totally understand what that meant. As kid you're like, well wait, why? Like, so wait we're from Africa? What's that?

"I'm 31-years-old and I realized I never really took time to grapple with what it means to be African. This film gave me the chance to do that," he said.

When the wheels touched down in Cape Town, South Africa, Coogler remembers being overcome with a visceral feeling that he still can't put words to. He went to Table Mountain and thought, "I could be buried here." In Nairobi he saw a Maasai man, wearing traditional clothes and speaking on a cell phone. "That's Wakanda," he thought. "That's Afrofuturism."

And that's what he set out to translate into the language of cinema in "Black Panther." It's the 18th film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and based on 50-year-old Stan Lee and Jack Kirby-created material, sure, but this is far from being just another superhero movie.



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Reply #48 posted 02/12/18 3:27pm

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morningsong said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Mannnn it's a superhero, and he is bad ass and a part of the Marvel canon

majority African cast, come on

Image result for african descendant actors



There is a huge gamble going on here. I'm looking more for the response of the African community on this one.

love Danai, she is Zimbabwean

Actress Danai Gurira ("The Walking Dead"), who plays Okoye, the general of the Wakanda warriors known as the Dora Milaje, grew up mostly in Zimbabwe. She said she was "giddy" with "childlike joy" when she understood how Coogler intended to show Africa and its inhabitants like Okoye, the spy Nakia (Lupita Nyong'o) and the scientist Shuri (Letitia Wright) — and those are just the women.

"'Black Panther' creates a precedent that kills the ability of folks to misrepresent and distort the continent," Gurira said. "The things that it checks off: Complex African female characters; African language on a big screen; African characters who are varied in many different ways and heroic; The heroism of Africans for themselves and not needing a white hero — go figure — to reach their goals; Celebrating so many specific African cultural-isms. No one can really now try to put forth some product where Africa is seen begging for a white superhero to come and save it."

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Reply #49 posted 02/12/18 3:32pm

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actor Daniel Kaluuya (Get Out) is Ugandan (born in London) stars in it as well

W'Kabi is a resident of Wakanda who acted as King T'Challa's loyal second-in-command. He rarely trusted outsiders.[1]

At the time when Venomm maintained a peaceful existence in the palace of Wakanda, W'Kabi and T'Challa remained suspicious of him.[2]

He was killed alongside Zuri by Morlun where they were trying to protect the wounded T'Challa while preparing Shuri in her part of becoming the new Black Panther. Following the fight against Morlun, W'Kabi and Zuri were buried next to each other.[3]

W'Kabi possesses a bionic arm that emits powerful blasts, and he is also a skilled warrior.

A black superhero who’s no second prize – Black Panther is a Marvel

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About a minute into the official Black Panther trailer, I realise I’ve been holding my breath. Hunched over, nose close to the screen, it’s as if I’m subconsciously trying to fold my body into Marvel’s cinematic universe. If this is a baptism, I want full immersion.

And if its record-breaking advance ticket sales are anything to go by, it seems I’m not the only one breathlessly awaiting the feature-length adventures of Wakanda’s king, T’Challa.

Part of the excitement is because cinemagoers finally have a black superhero who doesn’t feel like a consolation prize. Director Ryan Coogler’s all-black cast far surpasses previous paltry offerings to the black and brown people whose dollars and pounds turn films into blockbusters, yet who rarely see themselves represented with any depth or diversity on the big screen.

Not since the Blade trilogy, starring Wesley Snipes, has a hero of colour held the limelight. We have to go back to 1998, when the first part was released to critical acclaim and commercial success. Let’s not dwell on the other two.

But the fervour over this film is about so much more than mere representation: Black Panther is both a celebration of blackness and perfectly timed political commentary. “The movie plays to a romanticised version of Africa,” says David Roberts of Entertainlynx. “Magical kingdoms, ruled by emperors and untouched by the white man.”

In a year that marks the 50th anniversary of the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr, 60 years since the Notting Hill race riots and 90 years since women aged over 21 got the vote in the UK, here is a movie set in an east African country, albeit a fictitious one, which is the most technologically advanced in the world.


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Reply #50 posted 02/12/18 3:53pm

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There is a huge gamble going on here. I'm looking more for the response of the African community on this one.


What gamble? Fans loved his appearance in Civil War and have been chomping at the bit for this one ever since and early reviews have been overwhelmingly positive. There is no chance this won't be successful.



A major blockbuster with an all black cast, going international, is a gamble, or at least that's what the studios say. Personally, I don't see how it won't be a huge success but you know there are still certain expectations put on it coming from several different arenas, I think that's where the gamble is appeasing so many.

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Reply #51 posted 02/12/18 3:59pm

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Sure, it is good to have a black Super Hero movie, but my problem is why not have a movie about peace? Another movie with violence making you a hero. Peace sells but who's buying?

MLK is a hero. It might be good but blah.


Peace does not sell as violence does. And this dumbass country needs to see a Black hero who
is as such not because he's preaching some goofy gospel handed to him by hypocritically religious
white people but because he's fucking people up in order to achieve some quantum of peace.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2...yongo.html

For the Stars of ‘Black
Panther,’ Superpowers
and Responsibility

The director Ryan Coogler and the castmates
Chadwick Boseman, Michael B. Jordan, Lupita
Nyong’o and Danai Gurira see personal and political
potency in Marvel’s first black superhero film.

By REGGIE UGWUFEB. 12, 2018

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Reply #53 posted 02/12/18 4:15pm

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morningsong said:

djThunderfunk said:


What gamble? Fans loved his appearance in Civil War and have been chomping at the bit for this one ever since and early reviews have been overwhelmingly positive. There is no chance this won't be successful.



A major blockbuster with an all black cast, going international, is a gamble, or at least that's what the studios say. Personally, I don't see how it won't be a huge success but you know there are still certain expectations put on it coming from several different arenas, I think that's where the gamble is appeasing so many.


It'll be a smash.

The soundtrack curated by Kendrick Lamar seems to be doing well too. Personally I don't like it. I like Kendrick's flow but hate the "music" that accompanies it. Also don't see the sense in having what is essentially an R-Rated soundtrack for a PG-13 movie. Doesn't make much sense imo.

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Reply #54 posted 02/12/18 4:20pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

DJ you do know Noam Chomsky helped leak the Papers.


Sure. Chomsky's great and the newspapers did a good thing, but, Ellsberg, as the whistleblower, risked his freedom and his life to get the information out. He's the real hero of the story.

Of course, if Spielberg made a movie that presented Ellsberg as the hero many would see parallels to Snowden, and we can't be presenting Snowden as a hero, now can we.



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Reply #55 posted 02/12/18 5:02pm

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djThunderfunk said:


I'll for sure be watching Black Panther. I've been a comic book fan for over 45 years and I love super hero movies.

I skip most oscar-bait dramas, I do love Malcolm X though.

I'm curious -what are your favorite films ?


Why are you curious? Given our history, why should I endulge you?
But.. I love the subject, so:

I'm a movie/film geek with a collection of approx. 5,000 DVDs/BDs. I like classics taught in film classes, B-movies scorned by critics & blockbuster popcorn movies. I like action, comedy, horror, westerns, documentaries & family movies. I rarely like dramas, usually only when they are about musicians or historical figures that I already have an interest in, and I rarely like rom-coms, usually only when they're heavy on the "com(edy)". I love sci-fi, prefering fun sci-fi over cerebral sci-fi and as a life-long comicbook fan love superhero movies, even those usually considered the "bad" ones.

If you want to know what I think of specific movies, directors or actors then ask, I'm not interested in taking the time to make any extensive lists but am happy to engage in focused discussion on the topic... even though this is the wrong forum. wink



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Reply #56 posted 02/12/18 5:27pm

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morningsong said:



A major blockbuster with an all black cast, going international, is a gamble, or at least that's what the studios say. Personally, I don't see how it won't be a huge success but you know there are still certain expectations put on it coming from several different arenas, I think that's where the gamble is appeasing so many.


It'll be a smash.

The soundtrack curated by Kendrick Lamar seems to be doing well too. Personally I don't like it. I like Kendrick's flow but hate the "music" that accompanies it. Also don't see the sense in having what is essentially an R-Rated soundtrack for a PG-13 movie. Doesn't make much sense imo.



It'll get my little bit of change I know that.


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Reply #57 posted 02/13/18 2:53pm

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Why do we need action? Why are so many Americans bored where you need all this action? lol

Popcorn. nod

Not for the first time, this has been explained by Eddie Izzard:



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Reply #58 posted 02/13/18 3:12pm

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djThunderfunk said:



jjhunsecker said:




djThunderfunk said:




I'll for sure be watching Black Panther. I've been a comic book fan for over 45 years and I love super hero movies.

I skip most oscar-bait dramas, I do love Malcolm X though.



I'm curious -what are your favorite films ?




Why are you curious? Given our history, why should I endulge you?
But.. I love the subject, so:

I'm a movie/film geek with a collection of approx. 5,000 DVDs/BDs. I like classics taught in film classes, B-movies scorned by critics & blockbuster popcorn movies. I like action, comedy, horror, westerns, documentaries & family movies. I rarely like dramas, usually only when they are about musicians or historical figures that I already have an interest in, and I rarely like rom-coms, usually only when they're heavy on the "com(edy)". I love sci-fi, prefering fun sci-fi over cerebral sci-fi and as a life-long comicbook fan love superhero movies, even those usually considered the "bad" ones.

If you want to know what I think of specific movies, directors or actors then ask, I'm not interested in taking the time to make any extensive lists but am happy to engage in focused discussion on the topic... even though this is the wrong forum. wink



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I was just asking the question because I've been a film fanatic since about age 10, and I love discussion on the subject with different people (there's no "agenda ")... Also, I'm really into home theater and video collecting..I just find the subject fascinating, especially seeing what other people's likes and dislikes are.

My personal faves, off the top of my head:

The Godfather
Psycho
The Manchurian Candidate
Taxi Driver
McCabe & Mrs. Miller
The Last Picture Show
Dr. Strangelove
Goodfellas
West Side Story
The Searchers
Sweet Smell of Success
The Apartment

Just a reprieve from all the heavy topics and often acrimony on here...
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2freaky4church1 said:

Sure, it is good to have a black Super Hero movie, but my problem is why not have a movie about peace? Another movie with violence making you a hero. Peace sells but who's buying?

MLK is a hero. It might be good but blah.


Peace does not sell as violence does. And this dumbass country needs to see a Black hero who
is as such not because he's preaching some goofy gospel handed to him by hypocritically religious
white people but because he's fucking people up in order to achieve some quantum of peace.

....and there it is

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