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Reply #180 posted 01/11/18 9:26am

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that is not quite the word's meaning. it is not just having power but a historical backing and system ingrained into society that supports that and specific intent to wield it as such and in a manner of racial bigotry.

and if you do not agree then you and I use the word differently. I believe that my use is closer to its original meaning.

Again, by the definition that YOU are using, then Trump would be a "racist ". You've already conceded that he's displayed "bigotry "

but then there is intent

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Reply #181 posted 01/11/18 9:28am

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I think ophra holds a whole lot of anti-white bigotry. and anti-male as well. She has power, but not a historical backing. And I am not sure she means to be such... it is just in her.


We can also talk about how she (as did trump) doesn't live in the real world. I do not think she will run. Dems would be foolish to even consider her. Then need to pick someone decent... and with the right kind of experience.



Oprah shows "anti White bigotry " ??? It's white people who made her a billionaire!!!

When you say something like that, I simply can't take you seriously.
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Reply #182 posted 01/11/18 9:31am

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jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I think ophra holds a whole lot of anti-white bigotry. and anti-male as well. She has power, but not a historical backing. And I am not sure she means to be such... it is just in her.

We can also talk about how she (as did trump) doesn't live in the real world. I do not think she will run. Dems would be foolish to even consider her. Then need to pick someone decent... and with the right kind of experience.

Oprah shows "anti White bigotry " ??? It's white people who made her a billionaire!!! falloff When you say something like that, I simply can't take you seriously.

even if I did you would make an excuse. so I will stick with my opinion and leave it at that. So you can ask as many times as you like and I will not respond any differently.

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Reply #183 posted 01/11/18 9:35am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


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racial: relating to race.



Then ANYTHING could be "racial". I could say "Look at those lovely old Asian ladies over there ". That's something positive. How is that the same as saying a person was unable to perform their job duties because they're "Mexican" ? You're just trying to obscure the issues here, and not speak ill of your leader


ok so do you agree it was racial? YES or NO?




I will assume YES... if you are AT ALL honest and reasonable you will agree.

so then was it complementary?



You're talking nonsense. What is your point?
I could say "This neighborhood has a majority of Italian residents ". I could say "Fuck those crooked guinea bastards". Both statements are "racial"... I guess. So what? No rational person would see them as equivalent, or relative in any way.
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Reply #184 posted 01/11/18 9:39am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:

I think ophra holds a whole lot of anti-white bigotry. and anti-male as well. She has power, but not a historical backing. And I am not sure she means to be such... it is just in her.


We can also talk about how she (as did trump) doesn't live in the real world. I do not think she will run. Dems would be foolish to even consider her. Then need to pick someone decent... and with the right kind of experience.



Oprah shows "anti White bigotry " ??? It's white people who made her a billionaire!!! falloff When you say something like that, I simply can't take you seriously.



even if I did you would make an excuse. so I will stick with my opinion and leave it at that. So you can ask as many times as you like and I will not respond any differently.



Ok, so you can't provide any concrete examples, and choose to run away. NOT an unexpected response from you
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Reply #185 posted 01/11/18 9:40am

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please stop posting slurs....


but yes both are racial and one is clearly neither complementary nor a matter of fact... so what was Maher said either complementary or a matter of fact? or was there some element of being insulting? *and you already said he was...

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Reply #186 posted 01/11/18 9:41am

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jjhunsecker said:

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even if I did you would make an excuse. so I will stick with my opinion and leave it at that. So you can ask as many times as you like and I will not respond any differently.

Ok, so you can't provide any concrete examples, and choose to run away. NOT an unexpected response from you

not running just not going to play your game.

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Reply #187 posted 01/11/18 9:45am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:




even if I did you would make an excuse. so I will stick with my opinion and leave it at that. So you can ask as many times as you like and I will not respond any differently.



Ok, so you can't provide any concrete examples, and choose to run away. NOT an unexpected response from you


not running just not going to play your game.



My "game" ? Oh, you mean asking for facts to back up inflammatory statements?? "Run Away!"....
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Reply #188 posted 01/11/18 9:53am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

please stop posting slurs....


but yes both are racial and one is clearly neither complementary nor a matter of fact... so what was Maher said either complementary or a matter of fact? or was there some element of being insulting? *and you already said he was...



I'll write whatever I want. You're not a fucking moderator on here.

Why are you obsessed with Maher's stupid joke ? Interestingly, I don't see any of the people who were supposed to be "offended " by his comments saying much of anything still about it (perhaps we saw the intent and context). It's only you going on and on about it. In fact, you've complained more about Maher's one ad-lib than you have about dozens and dozens of Trump statements.
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Reply #189 posted 01/11/18 9:58am

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jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

please stop posting slurs....


but yes both are racial and one is clearly neither complementary nor a matter of fact... so what was Maher said either complementary or a matter of fact? or was there some element of being insulting? *and you already said he was...

I'll write whatever I want. You're not a fucking moderator on here.

I asked politely as I would for anyone around me using hate speech. you may lack the moral courage to do so... i do not. and that is okay. I do find your reaction to be very rude but that seems to just be you.


Why are you obsessed with Maher's stupid joke ?


I am more interested in how you view it and how your view on that is challenged by your views on other things people have said.


Interestingly, I don't see any of the people who were supposed to be "offended " by his comments saying much of anything still about it (perhaps we saw the intent and context). It's only you going on and on about it. In fact, you've complained more about Maher's one ad-lib than you have about dozens and dozens of Trump statements.


okay? and you have deafened maher's use of that word and i would never defend anyone's use of it.

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Reply #190 posted 01/11/18 10:07am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:

please stop posting slurs....


but yes both are racial and one is clearly neither complementary nor a matter of fact... so what was Maher said either complementary or a matter of fact? or was there some element of being insulting? *and you already said he was...



I'll write whatever I want. You're not a fucking moderator on here.

I asked politely as I would for anyone around me using hate speech. you may lack the moral courage to do so... i do not. and that is okay. I do find your reaction to be very rude but that seems to just be you.


Why are you obsessed with Maher's stupid joke ?


I am more interested in how you view it and how your view on that is challenged by your views on other things people have said.


Interestingly, I don't see any of the people who were supposed to be "offended " by his comments saying much of anything still about it (perhaps we saw the intent and context). It's only you going on and on about it. In fact, you've complained more about Maher's one ad-lib than you have about dozens and dozens of Trump statements.


okay? and you have deafened maher's use of that word and i would never defend anyone's use of it.



It was very clear my use of such ugly words were to illustrate my point. That claiming something is "racial" ultimately has no real meaning, since almost anything can be "racial"...If you cannot handle that, it is not my responsibility to create a "safe space " on this website just for you. If you can't deal with it, feel free not to read it.

And if it's easier for you to make a "blanket rule" on such matters, don't attack those who choose to see context and nuance and intent before we formulate our views.
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Reply #191 posted 01/11/18 10:13am

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It was very clear my use of such ugly words were to illustrate my point. If you cannot handle that, it is not my responsibility to create a "safe space " on this website just for you. If you can't deal with it, feel free not to read it. And if it's easier for you to make a "blanket rule" on such matters, don't attack those who choose to see context and nuance and intent before we formulate our views. [Edited 1/11/18 10:08am]

oh, I am not offended... I just point it out and you have a history of defined such language. I made no rule. I made no demand. I asked you. You are free to what you like with that request. Who did I attack?

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Reply #192 posted 01/11/18 11:06am

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You need to toughen up Only.

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Reply #193 posted 01/11/18 11:10am

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2freaky4church1 said:

You need to toughen up Only.

I am tough. I just point out hate when I see it. JJ's example was not necessary. I called him out on it. If he did not like it maybe he needs to toughen up!?


and considering you are the one often whining about how one group tried to use its free speech to silence the free speech of someone else who was trying to shut down another person's right to free speech... maybe you need to take a bit of your own advice.

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Reply #194 posted 01/11/18 12:12pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



2freaky4church1 said:


You need to toughen up Only.




I am tough. I just point out hate when I see it. JJ's example was not necessary. I called him out on it. If he did not like it maybe he needs to toughen up!?


and considering you are the one often whining about how one group tried to use its free speech to silence the free speech of someone else who was trying to shut down another person's right to free speech... maybe you need to take a bit of your own advice.



My example was necessary, to show how two widely varying comments could both be considered "racial"... which illustrates that the designation of something as "racial" then becomes ultimately meaningless and useless.

And it's not that I don't like what you have to say. It's that I simply don't care, since by statements such as Oprah has displayed "anti White bigotry " (with nothing to back that up) I find it hard to take any of this seriously
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Reply #195 posted 01/11/18 12:15pm

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jjhunsecker said:

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I am tough. I just point out hate when I see it. JJ's example was not necessary. I called him out on it. If he did not like it maybe he needs to toughen up!?


and considering you are the one often whining about how one group tried to use its free speech to silence the free speech of someone else who was trying to shut down another person's right to free speech... maybe you need to take a bit of your own advice.

My example was necessary, to show how two widely varying comments could both be considered "racial"... which illustrates that the designation of something as "racial" then becomes ultimately meaningless and useless.

Wrong all across... as I had follow up questions about the tone or intent of what was said and how the term was being used. So nice try but you still posted hate speech so i called you out on it.


And it's not that I don't like what you have to say. It's that I simply don't care, since by statements such as Oprah has displayed "anti White bigotry " (with nothing to back that up) I find it hard to take any of this seriously


well that is your choice...and as such it is your right to simply not reply

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Reply #196 posted 01/11/18 12:19pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:



I am tough. I just point out hate when I see it. JJ's example was not necessary. I called him out on it. If he did not like it maybe he needs to toughen up!?


and considering you are the one often whining about how one group tried to use its free speech to silence the free speech of someone else who was trying to shut down another person's right to free speech... maybe you need to take a bit of your own advice.



My example was necessary, to show how two widely varying comments could both be considered "racial"... which illustrates that the designation of something as "racial" then becomes ultimately meaningless and useless.

Wrong all across... as I had follow up questions about the tone or intent of what was said and how the term was being used. So nice try but you still posted hate speech so i called you out on it.


And it's not that I don't like what you have to say. It's that I simply don't care, since by statements such as Oprah has displayed "anti White bigotry " (with nothing to back that up) I find it hard to take any of this seriously


well that is your choice...and as such it is your right to simply not reply



No rational person would would consider what I wrote to be "hate speech ". Go try to score your points off of someone else.
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Reply #197 posted 01/11/18 12:19pm

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jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I am tough. I just point out hate when I see it. JJ's example was not necessary. I called him out on it. If he did not like it maybe he needs to toughen up!?


and considering you are the one often whining about how one group tried to use its free speech to silence the free speech of someone else who was trying to shut down another person's right to free speech... maybe you need to take a bit of your own advice.

My example was necessary, to show how two widely varying comments could both be considered "racial"... which illustrates that the designation of something as "racial" then becomes ultimately meaningless and useless. And it's not that I don't like what you have to say. It's that I simply don't care, since by statements such as Oprah has displayed "anti White bigotry " (with nothing to back that up) I find it hard to take any of this seriously

Agree. Compulsory great read in the fight against idiocy in P&R of Prince.org

Beautifully articulated argument has come to it's rightful conclusion. bow

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Reply #198 posted 01/11/18 12:22pm

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jjhunsecker said:

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No rational person would would consider what I wrote to be "hate speech ". Go try to score your points off of someone else.

I think you are hiding behind 'it was just an example' excuse. for all I know, that is how you really feel. And I am not here to score any points. Just to keep you in check. And by your reaction: I hit a nerve.

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Reply #199 posted 01/11/18 12:23pm

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poppys said:

jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: My example was necessary, to show how two widely varying comments could both be considered "racial"... which illustrates that the designation of something as "racial" then becomes ultimately meaningless and useless. And it's not that I don't like what you have to say. It's that I simply don't care, since by statements such as Oprah has displayed "anti White bigotry " (with nothing to back that up) I find it hard to take any of this seriously

Agree. Compulsory great read in the fight against idiocy in P&R of Prince.org

Beautifully articulated argument has come to it's rightful conclusion. bow

LOL oh I love name calling... it means I won. But you know maybe someone smart will come explain it to you.

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Reply #200 posted 01/11/18 12:30pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:




No rational person would would consider what I wrote to be "hate speech ". Go try to score your points off of someone else.


I think you are hiding behind 'it was just an example' excuse. for all I know, that is how you really feel. And I am not here to score any points. Just to keep you in check. And by your reaction: I hit a nerve.



You're really grasping here. How would you know how I "really feel "?? This is just an attempt to have the last word, and try to get out of a discussion that shows the lack of rationality on your part.
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Reply #201 posted 01/11/18 12:34pm

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I think you are hiding behind 'it was just an example' excuse. for all I know, that is how you really feel. And I am not here to score any points. Just to keep you in check. And by your reaction: I hit a nerve.

You're really grasping here.

Am I?


How would you know how I "really feel "??

That is my point. I do not know. Which is why you may think better of giving such examples. I am thinking if I gave an example like that--you know just to make a point-- I might get in trouble.

This is just an attempt to have the last word, and try to get out of a discussion that shows the lack of rationality on your part.


There is an IRONY of you being pissy in your assumption that I just want the last word... as it sure seems that it is you that wants it... so again you can reply or not and I will choose to respond or not.

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Reply #202 posted 01/11/18 12:39pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:



I think you are hiding behind 'it was just an example' excuse. for all I know, that is how you really feel. And I am not here to score any points. Just to keep you in check. And by your reaction: I hit a nerve.



You're really grasping here.

Am I?


How would you know how I "really feel "??

That is my point. I do not know. Which is why you may think better of giving such examples. I am thinking if I gave an example like that--you know just to make a point-- I might get in trouble.

This is just an attempt to have the last word, and try to get out of a discussion that shows the lack of rationality on your part.


There is an IRONY of you being pissy in your assumption that I just want the last word... as it sure seems that it is you that wants it... so again you can reply or not and I will choose to respond or not.



"I do not know " should be the title of all of your threads ...
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Reply #203 posted 01/11/18 12:40pm

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"I do not know " should be the title of all of your threads ...

define knowledge.

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Reply #204 posted 01/11/18 1:58pm

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Only, this is for you and the rest:

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Reply #205 posted 01/11/18 2:46pm

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Don't listen to the newly leaked Louis C.K. bootleg if you're offended by stuff. ANY stuff.
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Reply #206 posted 01/11/18 2:49pm

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djThunderfunk said:

Seal says Oprah knew:

https://www.yahoo.com/new...08839.html

Yep, I'm hearing more dirt soon on Weinstein and Oprah.

Trump turns from 'humbling' grief to midterm fire and furry
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Reply #207 posted 01/11/18 6:20pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: "I do not know " should be the title of all of your threads ...

define knowledge.

Knowledge:

noun

/ˈnɑl·ɪdʒ/

What Only does not have

lol

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #208 posted 01/12/18 7:26am

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Oprah knew?

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #209 posted 01/12/18 7:44am

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Oprah knew?


Don't listen to the newly leaked Louis C.K. bootleg if you're offended by stuff. ANY stuff.
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