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Reply #60 posted 01/08/18 4:21pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Most millionaires work every day and they drive past people drinking beer and grilling burgers. The government provides it all. Have to be a fool thinking they don't have a good life. And they party all night too.

rolleyes

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Reply #61 posted 01/08/18 4:32pm

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PennyPurple said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Most millionaires work every day and they drive past people drinking beer and grilling burgers. The government provides it all. Have to be a fool thinking they don't have a good life. And they party all night too.

rolleyes

That is the way I feel Penny. Hate me for it!

I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #62 posted 01/08/18 4:36pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

PennyPurple said:

rolleyes

That is the way I feel Penny. Hate me for it!

lol Never hate, my friend.

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Reply #63 posted 01/08/18 5:38pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

13cjk13 said:

The idiot in the White House has no economic or foreign policies, so clearly that is not an issue for the American people.

Then why are things getting done and why is the DOW continuing to go through the roof why do we continue to add jobs. I made over a quarter of a million on my funds last year jack. Come tax time many of you will change tune if not in public in secrecy.

A) The economic growth began 8 years ago. Irrefutable.

B) The out of work coal miner is not benefitting from the DOW numbers.

C) Thee tax cuts hold the most benefit for the welathy corporations - hence the DOW numbers - but do very little for the middle class in the long term.

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #64 posted 01/08/18 8:53pm

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poppys said:



SuperFurryAnimal said:




jjhunsecker said:



That's just ridiculous. I can't take you seriously after saying something like that




Most millionaires work every day and they drive past people drinking beer and grilling burgers. The government provides it all. Have to be a fool thinking they don't have a good life. And they party all night too.



jagoff



[Edited 1/8/18 17:03pm]



Next we'll hear about "welfare queens driving Cadillacs" and "strapping bucks buying steaks with food stamps "...
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Reply #65 posted 01/09/18 6:18am

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jjhunsecker said:

poppys said:

jagoff

[Edited 1/8/18 17:03pm]

Next we'll hear about "welfare queens driving Cadillacs" and "strapping bucks buying steaks with food stamps "...

Trump may be able to eliminate a lot of Welfare if he can bring more jobs.

I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #66 posted 01/09/18 7:31am

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Haven't we learned by now to reject celebrities that want to be president? Isn't she too cozy with Weinstein to get the woman's vote? She knew...

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #67 posted 01/09/18 9:10am

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djThunderfunk said:

Haven't we learned by now to reject celebrities that want to be president? Isn't she too cozy with Weinstein to get the woman's vote? She knew...


I’m pretty sure there were a lot of people cozy with Weinstein, until the truths about his sexual harassment against women, were finally taken seriously. I’m pretty sure many knew about the complaints against some of the powerful men in Hollywood and the like

Secondly, it was and still is difficult for many women to prove the accusations, and fear of speaking out due to concerns that it may affect their careers, and that they would not be able to stand up against the powerful in Hollywood.

On the other hand, Oprah would definitely get the womens’ vote though, because she has been speaking out about sexual assault/rape against women for years, including sharing her own story about what happened t
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FEARLESS
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Reply #68 posted 01/09/18 9:45am

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Okay, on one hand there's a petition to have Matt Damon removed from Ocean's 8, because he must've known, but on the other hand we're not going to hold Oprah by the same standard? lol

She knew.

If we keep nominating and electing celebrities to office, then we deserve the results.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #69 posted 01/09/18 10:05am

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djThunderfunk said:

Okay, on one hand there's a petition to have Matt Damon removed from Ocean's 8, because he must've known, but on the other hand we're not going to hold Oprah by the same standard? lol

She knew.

If we keep nominating and electing celebrities to office, then we deserve the results.

Where's the proof that Oprah "knew" anything about Weinstein's antics ? Harvey Weinstein was a ubiquitous figure in Hollywood and New York and all over the world. He came into contact with literally thousands of people in different capacities. He was obviously a master (for most of the time) of keeping many aspects of his degenerate behavior as private and contained as possible. I'm sure that he kept that part of his existence as far from people like Oprah and Meryl Streep and Hillary Clinton as possible.

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Reply #70 posted 01/09/18 10:07am

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2elijah said:

djThunderfunk said:

Haven't we learned by now to reject celebrities that want to be president? Isn't she too cozy with Weinstein to get the woman's vote? She knew...

I’m pretty sure there were a lot of people cozy with Weinstein, until the truths about his sexual harassment against women, were finally taken seriously. I’m pretty sure many knew about the complaints against some of the powerful men in Hollywood and the like Secondly, it was and still is difficult for many women to prove the accusations, and fear of speaking out due to concerns that it may affect their careers, and that they would not be able to stand up against the powerful in Hollywood. On the other hand, Oprah would definitely get the womens’ vote though, because she has been speaking out about sexual assault/rape against women for years, including sharing her own story about what happened t [Edited 1/9/18 9:31am]

Some of these women who were assaulted (such as Annabella Sciorra) told this to few people after the events. Even their closest friends knew little about these attacks

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Reply #71 posted 01/09/18 10:36am

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We hardly have any welfare.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #72 posted 01/09/18 10:42am

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jjhunsecker said:

djThunderfunk said:

Okay, on one hand there's a petition to have Matt Damon removed from Ocean's 8, because he must've known, but on the other hand we're not going to hold Oprah by the same standard? lol

She knew.

If we keep nominating and electing celebrities to office, then we deserve the results.

Where's the proof that Oprah "knew" anything about Weinstein's antics ? Harvey Weinstein was a ubiquitous figure in Hollywood and New York and all over the world. He came into contact with literally thousands of people in different capacities. He was obviously a master (for most of the time) of keeping many aspects of his degenerate behavior as private and contained as possible. I'm sure that he kept that part of his existence as far from people like Oprah and Meryl Streep and Hillary Clinton as possible.


I was under the impression that when it comes to allegations of sexual misconduct, proof was no longer necessary. According to the "news" and social media, accusations are enough. No?

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #73 posted 01/09/18 10:52am

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djThunderfunk said:

jjhunsecker said:

Where's the proof that Oprah "knew" anything about Weinstein's antics ? Harvey Weinstein was a ubiquitous figure in Hollywood and New York and all over the world. He came into contact with literally thousands of people in different capacities. He was obviously a master (for most of the time) of keeping many aspects of his degenerate behavior as private and contained as possible. I'm sure that he kept that part of his existence as far from people like Oprah and Meryl Streep and Hillary Clinton as possible.


I was under the impression that when it comes to allegations of sexual misconduct, proof was no longer necessary. According to the "news" and social media, accusations are enough. No?

That sounds like something Roger Ailes would say ...

I prefer to look at the whole picture, myself.

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Reply #74 posted 01/09/18 11:02am

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jjhunsecker said:

djThunderfunk said:


I was under the impression that when it comes to allegations of sexual misconduct, proof was no longer necessary. According to the "news" and social media, accusations are enough. No?

That sounds like something Roger Ailes would say ...

I prefer to look at the whole picture, myself.


Fuck roger ailes. It's simply a fact that we've recently seen dozens of public figures lose their jobs and have their reputations ruined based on accusations but no proof. When it comes to sexual misconduct, due process has taken a back seat to public opinion. If you look at "the whole picture", you will see this is true.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #75 posted 01/09/18 11:23am

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djThunderfunk said:

jjhunsecker said:

That sounds like something Roger Ailes would say ...

I prefer to look at the whole picture, myself.


Fuck roger ailes. It's simply a fact that we've recently seen dozens of public figures lose their jobs and have their reputations ruined based on accusations but no proof. When it comes to sexual misconduct, due process has taken a back seat to public opinion. If you look at "the whole picture", you will see this is true.

Almost all these figures worked for private companies, which generall reserve the right to fire anyone at anytime for any reason. However, since we also live in extremely litiginous times, I'm sure most of those companies are also afraid to be sued for wrongful termination. So it's safe to assume that MOST (not saying ALL) of these companies felt that they had enough evidence to warrent termination, especially in the cases we hear about involving high profile and extremely wealthy "perps".

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Reply #76 posted 01/09/18 1:11pm

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jjhunsecker said:

djThunderfunk said:


Fuck roger ailes. It's simply a fact that we've recently seen dozens of public figures lose their jobs and have their reputations ruined based on accusations but no proof. When it comes to sexual misconduct, due process has taken a back seat to public opinion. If you look at "the whole picture", you will see this is true.

Almost all these figures worked for private companies, which generall reserve the right to fire anyone at anytime for any reason. However, since we also live in extremely litiginous times, I'm sure most of those companies are also afraid to be sued for wrongful termination. So it's safe to assume that MOST (not saying ALL) of these companies felt that they had enough evidence to warrent termination, especially in the cases we hear about involving high profile and extremely wealthy "perps".


Yet the end result is the same. Without proof, peoples lives are ruined.

They're trying to get Damon thrown off a movie, without proof that "he knew". By that logic, we don't need proof that Oprah knew to disqualify her. That would at least be consistent.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #77 posted 01/09/18 2:17pm

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djThunderfunk said:



jjhunsecker said:




djThunderfunk said:




Fuck roger ailes. It's simply a fact that we've recently seen dozens of public figures lose their jobs and have their reputations ruined based on accusations but no proof. When it comes to sexual misconduct, due process has taken a back seat to public opinion. If you look at "the whole picture", you will see this is true.




Almost all these figures worked for private companies, which generall reserve the right to fire anyone at anytime for any reason. However, since we also live in extremely litiginous times, I'm sure most of those companies are also afraid to be sued for wrongful termination. So it's safe to assume that MOST (not saying ALL) of these companies felt that they had enough evidence to warrent termination, especially in the cases we hear about involving high profile and extremely wealthy "perps".




Yet the end result is the same. Without proof, peoples lives are ruined.

They're trying to get Damon thrown off a movie, without proof that "he knew". By that logic, we don't need proof that Oprah knew to disqualify her. That would at least be consistent.



You're just assuming that these companies have no proof of misconduct. That's a stretch. I also think if 5 or 15 or 25 people unrelated tell a similar story, chances are there is SOMETHING to it...

Having said that, not knowing anything more about this Matt Damon story, I think it's absurd. Same with assuming about what Oprah "knew " ...
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Reply #78 posted 01/09/18 4:17pm

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Oprah said she's not gonna run in 2020. sad

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #79 posted 01/09/18 4:21pm

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jjhunsecker said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

They all probably won't after she debates Trump.

Trump is a mumbling stumbling moron. Whatever you think of Oprah or her views, she could talk rings around him

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So true!! Unfortunately, I think Oprah showed up too late to the game. Where was she when Hillary was running? LOL lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #80 posted 01/09/18 4:27pm

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2elijah said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

or like how barack was one too and blamed everything on bush... hell in 2008 and 2012 brack acted like he was running against bush! Forget them all!

Trump never takes acountability for anything. He’s childless, divisive, a sexist, has a long history of making racist comments about many Americans of color, and is not a good role model as president.

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Trump is an embarassment. He's rude, condescending, shows no respect for anyone and if anyone has the courgage to stand up to him, he shoots them down with a snide remark and calls it fake news! He's a bully, sitting up in the White House. He has no presidential qualities, and tweets like he's a 12 year-old. Grab 'em by the pussy is his motto! He only got to where he is because of his father, who started a real estate business. He's a ruthless businessman, and has no class!! Complete jerk!!

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It's all fake news!!

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Image result for donald trump fake news gif

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lol lol lol lol

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Reply #81 posted 01/09/18 4:28pm

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Oprah said she's not gonna run in 2020. sad



I don't think Oprah will ever run. There would have to be some major event to push her into it.

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Reply #82 posted 01/09/18 4:30pm

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djThunderfunk said:

jjhunsecker said:

Where's the proof that Oprah "knew" anything about Weinstein's antics ? Harvey Weinstein was a ubiquitous figure in Hollywood and New York and all over the world. He came into contact with literally thousands of people in different capacities. He was obviously a master (for most of the time) of keeping many aspects of his degenerate behavior as private and contained as possible. I'm sure that he kept that part of his existence as far from people like Oprah and Meryl Streep and Hillary Clinton as possible.


I was under the impression that when it comes to allegations of sexual misconduct, proof was no longer necessary. According to the "news" and social media, accusations are enough. No?

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Correct. Look at Matt Lauer; he did not deny the allegations. He's no different than Trump. Acts entitled and uses his power to control people who are less-fortunate.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #83 posted 01/09/18 4:30pm

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morningsong said:

cloveringold85 said:

Oprah said she's not gonna run in 2020. sad



I don't think Oprah will ever run. There would have to be some major event to push her into it.

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I agree. She's way too good for the White House. She has morals and values. lol

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Reply #84 posted 01/09/18 4:48pm

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morningsong said:



I don't think Oprah will ever run. There would have to be some major event to push her into it.

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I agree. She's way too good for the White House. She has morals and values. lol



I think she's getting ready to simply enjoy her ranch, and do some good here and there and call it a day.

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Reply #85 posted 01/09/18 5:26pm

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I don't like her, she seems as a fake person.

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Reply #86 posted 01/09/18 6:48pm

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djThunderfunk said:


Yet the end result is the same. Without proof, peoples lives are ruined.

They're trying to get Damon thrown off a movie, without proof that "he knew". By that logic, we don't need proof that Oprah knew to disqualify her. That would at least be consistent.

You're just assuming that these companies have no proof of misconduct. That's a stretch. I also think if 5 or 15 or 25 people unrelated tell a similar story, chances are there is SOMETHING to it... Having said that, not knowing anything more about this Matt Damon story, I think it's absurd. Same with assuming about what Oprah "knew " ...

Exactly. All these poor ruined guys with multiple accusers and Oprah's found guilty because "she knew". Convoluted.

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Reply #87 posted 01/10/18 2:36am

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Bottom line...Mighty Oprah could have said "Boo" during her acceptance speech and some desperate Liberals would still claim she should run for Office.....The Democrats can BEG all we wanna but Mrs. Obama & Oprah are NEVER gonna run for Office...They have no interest in becoming fulltime Politicians...

Michelle will spend the rest of her Life serving the people and helping The DEM Party and Oprah will do whatever she feels led to do.....

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Reply #88 posted 01/10/18 8:05am

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cloveringold85 said:

djThunderfunk said:


I was under the impression that when it comes to allegations of sexual misconduct, proof was no longer necessary. According to the "news" and social media, accusations are enough. No?

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Correct. Look at Matt Lauer; he did not deny the allegations. He's no different than Trump. Acts entitled and uses his power to control people who are less-fortunate.

Notice, few if any, to my knowledge, have sued for wrongful termination so far. Perhaps they are afraid of what information would be revealed.

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Reply #89 posted 01/10/18 8:08am

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jjhunsecker said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Correct. Look at Matt Lauer; he did not deny the allegations. He's no different than Trump. Acts entitled and uses his power to control people who are less-fortunate.

Notice, few if any, to my knowledge, have sued for wrongful termination so far. Perhaps they are afraid of what information would be revealed.


Notice, few accusers have gone to the police to file charges or a lawyer to file suit. Perhaps they have no evidence to prove their accusations.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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