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Reply #60 posted 11/30/17 9:49am

OnlyNDaUsa

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Dasein said:

214 said:

Dasein i always thought you were a girl eek. Sorry that's my contribution to this topic. I'm black but i don't live in the US so i don't know much about being black in America.


Nope! I'm a heterosexual male!

I think even if you haven't had the North American experience as a Black person, if you are living
in a country and culture influenced by the west, then you can probably speak to the adverse effects
of colonialism rendered by whiteness's impact on your personhood.


as long as you also agree the Aferican slave trade was STARTED by black Africans. And do you not grasp that Spaniards were white?

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Reply #61 posted 11/30/17 10:00am

poppys

Somebody needs the course. Unless it's troll free.

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Reply #62 posted 11/30/17 10:04am

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poppys said:

Somebody needs the course. Unless it's troll free.

LOL Naww I am as open and tolerant as one can be... I never use a person's identity to affect how I value them. Unlike YOU I have not used race-based slurs. And when I did use what was argued o be a gender-based slur I agreed and stopped.



oh wait I thought you were done with me? LOL

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Reply #63 posted 11/30/17 10:07am

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We are all affected by racism, even me. Now you Only?

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Reply #64 posted 11/30/17 10:16am

poppys

OnlyNDaUsa said:

poppys said:

Somebody needs the course. Unless it's troll free.


oh wait I thought you were done with me? LOL

And my reply on that thread was that you don't read. I said I am done with you on this. See - that's a little Only move you didn't catch.


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Reply #65 posted 11/30/17 10:21am

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2freaky4church1 said:

We are all affected by racism, even me. Now you Only?

I am sure I have been but only tangentially... I can not be the direct victim of racism.

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Reply #66 posted 11/30/17 10:23am

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poppys said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:


oh wait I thought you were done with me? LOL

And my reply on that thread was that you don't read. I said I am done with you on this. See - that's a little Only move you didn't catch.


oh, I took it that that post was the last straw... "I am done with you due to this..."

so lovely you are not done!

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Reply #67 posted 11/30/17 10:26am

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You are white.

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Reply #68 posted 11/30/17 10:29am

Dasein

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Dasein said:


Nope! I'm a heterosexual male!

I think even if you haven't had the North American experience as a Black person, if you are living
in a country and culture influenced by the west, then you can probably speak to the adverse effects
of colonialism rendered by whiteness's impact on your personhood.


as long as you also agree the Aferican slave trade was STARTED by black Africans. And do you not grasp that Spaniards were white?


If you think I'm going to place the particular effects of the kind of slavery practiced by European
countries as it existed and was expressed via colonialism at the feet of Africa, then you are as ob-
tuse as I think you are. This is to say nothing of the millions of slaves who were abducted by
Europeans and sold into slavery so as to by-pass the exchanging of "goods" with West and Central
Africans. And, for the record, the trans-Atlantic slave trade was initiated by Portuguese raiders
who would go up and down the west African coast, capture innocents and sell them off, so no I
do not fucking agree that the trans-Atlantic African slave trade was started by Africans. It wasn't
until the late 1490s that leaders of those West and Central African countries entered into agree-
ment with European monarchs for the purposes of selling slaves for up until that point, those
West and Central Africans put up a fight. Yet, there are some historians who point out that the
nature of this business relationship was obviously tilted towards Europe. Read a book, pal.

As for why you're asking me about grasping that Spaniards are white, I have no idea . . .

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Reply #69 posted 11/30/17 10:33am

poppys

Dasein said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

as long as you also agree the Aferican slave trade was STARTED by black Africans. And do you not grasp that Spaniards were white?


If you think I'm going to place the particular effects of the kind of slavery practiced by European
countries as it existed and was expressed via colonialism at the feet of Africa, then you are as ob-
tuse as I think you are. This is to say nothing of the millions of slaves who were abducted by
Europeans and sold into slavery so as to by-pass the exchanging of "goods" with West and Central
Africans. And, for the record, the trans-Atlantic slave trade was initiated by Portuguese raiders
who would go up and down the west African coast, capture innocents and sell them off, so no I
do not fucking agree that the trans-Atlantic African slave trade was started by Africans. It wasn't
until the late 1490s that leaders of those West and Central African countries entered into agree-
ment with European monarchs for the purposes of selling slaves for up until that point, those
West and Central Africans put up a fight. Yet, there are some historians who point out that the
nature of this business relationship was obviously tilted towards Europe. Read a book, pal.

As for why you're asking me about grasping that Spaniards are white, I have no idea . . .

thumbs up! I knew a smart person would come along and fix that for us.

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Reply #70 posted 11/30/17 10:38am

OnlyNDaUsa

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Dasein said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

as long as you also agree the Aferican slave trade was STARTED by black Africans. And do you not grasp that Spaniards were white?


If you think I'm going to place the particular effects of the kind of slavery practiced by European
countries as it existed and was expressed via colonialism at the feet of Africa, then you are as ob-
tuse as I think you are. This is to say nothing of the millions of slaves who were abducted by
Europeans and sold into slavery so as to by-pass the exchanging of "goods" with West and Central
Africans. And, for the record, the trans-Atlantic slave trade was initiated by Portuguese raiders
who would go up and down the west African coast, capture innocents and sell them off, so no I
do not fucking agree that the trans-Atlantic African slave trade was started by Africans. It wasn't
until the late 1490s that leaders of those West and Central African countries entered into agree-
ment with European monarchs for the purposes of selling slaves for up until that point, those
West and Central Africans put up a fight. Yet, there are some historians who point out that the
nature of this business relationship was obviously tilted towards Europe. Read a book, pal.

As for why you're asking me about grasping that Spaniards are white, I have no idea . . .

the only reason the trans-Atlantic trade was not a thing sooner was lack of boats...

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Reply #71 posted 11/30/17 11:06am

ThatWhiteDude

purplefam99 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I wish we had these kind of courses here in germany. We got to many self entitled white people who think that everything belongs to them. They take everything as granted, because for them it is in a way. Most white people don't know that you can see the racism everyday. You don't have to hear someone scream the N word and other racist slurs all ove ther place, you can also see it when a white person walks up to a black person and starts to talk in every other language but german.

I want to have courses like that in germany too. But I already know what the reaction would be lol lol

"No we are not racist, the white race is endangered, we need to get courses about how the africans are threatening our beautiful race."

Hitler's dead but the damage is done, germany is fucked up, we got too many nazis.

Well I wish we had something like your tripping stones here, say, maybe tree sculptures where lynchings took place. at least your country seems to hold a collective embarrassment regarding hitler. How long have you all had the tripping stones??? We are just now taking down racists monuments. And I thought German schools did have a curriculum in place in the younger grades to teach about racism.

Well, I can tell you that germany has a big nazi problem. And it's getting worse and worse on a daily basis. We had a right wing terror group that assassinated muslims for ten years and our government knew it. They didn't do shit about it, they just let them nazis murder these people. So that tells me how much germany learned since 1945. I think JFK was right when he stated in his diary, germany is not able to hold a democracy by itself.

I think we still got nazis in our government. I see it on how immigrants get treated. And yes, we learn about Hitler in school. We don't glorify him like the USA glorifys Columbus, but many germans complain about it, they say: "I got nothing to do with hitler, it's not my guilt." Nobody puts the blame on the new generations, they just should never forget what happened in germany and how many germans did this shit.

I could tell you a lot more, I really don't like germany, most people are so self entitled, they disgust me on a constant level.

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Reply #72 posted 11/30/17 11:08am

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Dasein said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:




Dasein said:




Nope! I'm a heterosexual male!

I think even if you haven't had the North American experience as a Black person, if you are living
in a country and culture influenced by the west, then you can probably speak to the adverse effects
of colonialism rendered by whiteness's impact on your personhood.







as long as you also agree the Aferican slave trade was STARTED by black Africans. And do you not grasp that Spaniards were white?




If you think I'm going to place the particular effects of the kind of slavery practiced by European
countries as it existed and was expressed via colonialism at the feet of Africa, then you are as ob-
tuse as I think you are. This is to say nothing of the millions of slaves who were abducted by
Europeans and sold into slavery so as to by-pass the exchanging of "goods" with West and Central
Africans. And, for the record, the trans-Atlantic slave trade was initiated by Portuguese raiders
who would go up and down the west African coast, capture innocents and sell them off, so no I
do not fucking agree that the trans-Atlantic African slave trade was started by Africans. It wasn't
until the late 1490s that leaders of those West and Central African countries entered into agree-
ment with European monarchs for the purposes of selling slaves for up until that point, those
West and Central Africans put up a fight. Yet, there are some historians who point out that the
nature of this business relationship was obviously tilted towards Europe. Read a book, pal.

As for why you're asking me about grasping that Spaniards are white, I have no idea . . .



Reading a book is asking too much of this guy...His mind has already been made up
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Reply #73 posted 11/30/17 11:10am

ThatWhiteDude

2elijah said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I wish we had these kind of courses here in germany. We got to many self entitled white people who think that everything belongs to them. They take everything as granted, because for them it is in a way. Most white people don't know that you can see the racism everyday. You don't have to hear someone scream the N word and other racist slurs all ove ther place, you can also see it when a white person walks up to a black person and starts to talk in every other language but german.

I want to have courses like that in germany too. But I already know what the reaction would be lol lol

"No we are not racist, the white race is endangered, we need to get courses about how the africans are threatening our beautiful race."

Hitler's dead but the damage is done, germany is fucked up, we got too many nazis.

It's generational racism that has become 'the norm.' So those not affected by the ills that racism causes, will either be oblivious to its effect or intentionally refuse to acknowledge its existence. That's the problem in America for years. This is why so many white nationalists/nazi supporters/kkk members and the like, see Trump as their last White hope. They've been ignorantly-conditioned with white supremacist ideology. A false ideology they embrace as truth, and a form of their self-importance on a fantasized level of racial superiority. It's sad and sick, but that sick ideology has led to many deaths, abuse, hatred and discrimination in America. Unfortunately, there is still a large percentage of Americans who embrace that ignorant ideology, as their truth, and will turn a blind eye to its fallacy.

That's how I see it too smile

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Reply #74 posted 11/30/17 11:23am

OnlyNDaUsa

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jjhunsecker said:

Dasein said:


If you think I'm going to place the particular effects of the kind of slavery practiced by European
countries as it existed and was expressed via colonialism at the feet of Africa, then you are as ob-
tuse as I think you are. This is to say nothing of the millions of slaves who were abducted by
Europeans and sold into slavery so as to by-pass the exchanging of "goods" with West and Central
Africans. And, for the record, the trans-Atlantic slave trade was initiated by Portuguese raiders
who would go up and down the west African coast, capture innocents and sell them off, so no I
do not fucking agree that the trans-Atlantic African slave trade was started by Africans. It wasn't
until the late 1490s that leaders of those West and Central African countries entered into agree-
ment with European monarchs for the purposes of selling slaves for up until that point, those
West and Central Africans put up a fight. Yet, there are some historians who point out that the
nature of this business relationship was obviously tilted towards Europe. Read a book, pal.

As for why you're asking me about grasping that Spaniards are white, I have no idea . . .

Reading a book is asking too much of this guy...His mind has already been made up

books have words and words are confusing. and did you just assume my gender... or was that a generic "guy"

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Reply #75 posted 11/30/17 11:29am

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A student Op-Ed At Texas State University's student paper claims that the DNA of white people is an "abomination". That's racist for sure.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10206


We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #76 posted 11/30/17 5:55pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

purplefam99 said:

ThatWhiteDude said: Well I wish we had something like your tripping stones here, say, maybe tree sculptures where lynchings took place. at least your country seems to hold a collective embarrassment regarding hitler. How long have you all had the tripping stones??? We are just now taking down racists monuments. And I thought German schools did have a curriculum in place in the younger grades to teach about racism.

Well, I can tell you that germany has a big nazi problem. And it's getting worse and worse on a daily basis. We had a right wing terror group that assassinated muslims for ten years and our government knew it. They didn't do shit about it, they just let them nazis murder these people. So that tells me how much germany learned since 1945. I think JFK was right when he stated in his diary, germany is not able to hold a democracy by itself.

I think we still got nazis in our government. I see it on how immigrants get treated. And yes, we learn about Hitler in school. We don't glorify him like the USA glorifys Columbus, but many germans complain about it, they say: "I got nothing to do with hitler, it's not my guilt." Nobody puts the blame on the new generations, they just should never forget what happened in germany and how many germans did this shit.

I could tell you a lot more, I really don't like germany, most people are so self entitled, they disgust me on a constant level.


You need to watch Michael Moore's 'Where to Invade Next?' if you haven't already. In contrast, it presents elegantly the other side of the argument. Germany's national education curriculum is geared towards apology and self-deprecation on the issue of its recent past, with much on it taught at school (everyday apparently?), with kids also reminded of what their precedessors did in the form of engravings of Jewish family names on their sidewalks. So come end of school, it would appear children are entering adulthood imbued with guilt and shame over nazism. Judging by your own experience however, it doesn't seem to have the same universal effect on everyone. Does something get lost in chatter of everyday life?


I've met people from the near east also (syria, turkey), who think that germans are really friendly and accommodating, based on their time there. Everyone's different, but I'm wondering that, actually, Germany being as nationalistic as you think isn't a thing that can go back generations. Just 150 years ago, it wasn't a nation state or country. And regional identity is still really strong in Germany apparently, such as in Bavaria. Conversely, you may well move to Austria or Italy and experience the same problems there. Be careful with JFK comment. I don't know the context, but it could have been his inference that democracy would perhaps take time in Germany given its war reparations cost and need to rebuild a shattered country. There. And I can't believe they decided to make Berlin the capital after reunification. But there. And here endeth the [atheist] lesson. cool

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Reply #77 posted 11/30/17 8:58pm

purplefam99

ThatWhiteDude said:



purplefam99 said:


ThatWhiteDude said:

I wish we had these kind of courses here in germany. We got to many self entitled white people who think that everything belongs to them. They take everything as granted, because for them it is in a way. Most white people don't know that you can see the racism everyday. You don't have to hear someone scream the N word and other racist slurs all ove ther place, you can also see it when a white person walks up to a black person and starts to talk in every other language but german.



I want to have courses like that in germany too. But I already know what the reaction would be lol lol



"No we are not racist, the white race is endangered, we need to get courses about how the africans are threatening our beautiful race."



Hitler's dead but the damage is done, germany is fucked up, we got too many nazis.



Well I wish we had something like your tripping stones here, say, maybe tree sculptures where lynchings took place. at least your country seems to hold a collective embarrassment regarding hitler. How long have you all had the tripping stones??? We are just now taking down racists monuments. And I thought German schools did have a curriculum in place in the younger grades to teach about racism.

Well, I can tell you that germany has a big nazi problem. And it's getting worse and worse on a daily basis. We had a right wing terror group that assassinated muslims for ten years and our government knew it. They didn't do shit about it, they just let them nazis murder these people. So that tells me how much germany learned since 1945. I think JFK was right when he stated in his diary, germany is not able to hold a democracy by itself.



I think we still got nazis in our government. I see it on how immigrants get treated. And yes, we learn about Hitler in school. We don't glorify him like the USA glorifys Columbus, but many germans complain about it, they say: "I got nothing to do with hitler, it's not my guilt." Nobody puts the blame on the new generations, they just should never forget what happened in germany and how many germans did this shit.



I could tell you a lot more, I really don't like germany, most people are so self entitled, they disgust me on a constant level.



Thx for your reply.
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Reply #78 posted 12/01/17 7:14am

poppys

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Dasein said:



I think even if you haven't had the North American experience as a Black person, if you are living
in a country and culture influenced by the west, then you can probably speak to the adverse effects
of colonialism rendered by whiteness's impact on your personhood.


as long as you also agree the Aferican slave trade was STARTED by black Africans. And do you not grasp that Spaniards were white?


Uh, tell that to the Moors. The Iberian peninsula has been around a long time. This is the kind of proclamation stuff the who's who? game is based on. Search Spain/race on youtube - many viewpoints.

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Reply #79 posted 12/01/17 2:38pm

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Check out Tim Wise podcast.

DJ is da man
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Reply #80 posted 12/02/17 4:17pm

ThatWhiteDude

purplefam99 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Well, I can tell you that germany has a big nazi problem. And it's getting worse and worse on a daily basis. We had a right wing terror group that assassinated muslims for ten years and our government knew it. They didn't do shit about it, they just let them nazis murder these people. So that tells me how much germany learned since 1945. I think JFK was right when he stated in his diary, germany is not able to hold a democracy by itself.

I think we still got nazis in our government. I see it on how immigrants get treated. And yes, we learn about Hitler in school. We don't glorify him like the USA glorifys Columbus, but many germans complain about it, they say: "I got nothing to do with hitler, it's not my guilt." Nobody puts the blame on the new generations, they just should never forget what happened in germany and how many germans did this shit.

I could tell you a lot more, I really don't like germany, most people are so self entitled, they disgust me on a constant level.

Thx for your reply.

You're welcome smile

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