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Sexual Assault and the general public

For those that want a thread about the subject of Sexual Assault, how it affects the general public, state laws or other related issues that are not specific to Hollywood, celebrities or politicians, this one's for you... Discuss. wink

Hollywood sexual harassment thread

http://prince.org/msg/105/449181

We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #1 posted 11/18/17 11:14am

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A married teacher in Oklahoma was arrested Wednesday after having a sexual relationship with an underage student.

Hunter Day, 22, a science teacher at Yukon High School, was arrested by the Canadian County Sheriff’s Department on complaints of second-degree rape, facilitating sexual contact with a minor and possession of child pornography, KWTV said. She reportedly is married to the school’s football coach.

Authorities said they investigated the relationship after being notified by the boy’s parents and finding explicit pictures and messages on his phone, the report said.

On the day of the arrest, the sheriff’s department said Day and the teen had planned to meet at her house, KWTV reported. Deputies arrived at the residence and reportedly texted the teacher from the boy’s phone, saying he’d arrived. Day responded to the message saying, “The doors [sic] unlocked as usual,” the report said.

When investigators entered the home, Day was sitting on the floor of her living room with candles lit and all the lights off, authorities said. She also reportedly was wearing a Christmas cat T-shirt and workout shorts.

The teacher confessed to sending the boy illicit “bra and panty” pictures and said he’d also sent her pictures of his genitals, KWTV reported.

“I’m no longer surprised by the people who commit these crimes, because predators come from all walks of life,” Canadian County Sheriff Chris West told the outlet.

“This is a classic case of a serious breach of public trust,” he said. “School teachers are entrusted to protect and educate our children, not to engage in an unlawful sexual relationship with them.”

According to a statement released on Twitter, administrators from the high school said “the safety and well-being of our students is our number one priority,” and there was no indication in Day’s record that she would make such a “very poor decision.”

The school said it was working with authorities in their investigation and couldn’t discuss details of the case, according to the post.

Day was incarcerated in the Canadian County Jail and bond was set at $85,000, KWTV reported.

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Generally, sexual assault falls into one of three categories.

Jennifer Gentile Long, the chief executive officer of AEquitas: The Prosecutors' Resource on Violence Against Women, a global project she co-founded in April 2009, tells SELF those include:

  1. Penetration crimes
    • Of a body part by another body part (i.e., penal penetration of mouth, anus, vagina)
    • Of a body part by an object
  1. Contact with genitalia, breast, buttocks, or other intimate body parts
  2. Exposure of genitalia, breast, buttocks or other intimate body parts

According to Austin, sexual harassment can include sexual assault (such as rape and/or grabbing), but it’s also broader. Sexual harassment “includes creating a hostile environment, pervasive jokes/comments, looks, and body language that makes an individual feel harassed,” she says. But, again, the exact definition can vary by state.

As for “locker room talk,” experts say it's not usually a crime, but it can feed into a culture of sexual harassment. “From a prosecution perspective, we are always thinking about how sexuality and sexual violence portrayed in media, music, film, video games, and culture, impacts the way jurors and criminal justice professionals evaluate evidence in a case and render just and fair decisions without bringing in misinformation and bias,” Long says. The more pervasive "locker room talk," the more likely people may be biased into thinking a crime like sexual harassment is normal and OK.

O’Connor agrees, noting that it’s not a crime but still carries a lot of weight. “Any language or phrase that condones sexual violence is dangerous because it attempts to brush away allegations of criminal behavior,” she says. O’Connor says sexual assault and harass...eported” and “locker room talk” marginalizes victims. (O’Connor also notes that RAINN’s hotline has had a 33 percent increase in sessions since Trump’s 2005 comments surfaced.)

However, in some situations, “locker room talk” could actually be seen as a form of sexual harassment, Austin says. She cites inappropriate jokes or pinup pictures in the workforce as potentially creating a hostile work environment, which could fall under the umbrella of sexual harassment.

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Reply #3 posted 11/19/17 7:57am

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djThunderfunk said:

For those that want a thread about the subject of Sexual Assault, how it affects the general public, state laws or other related issues that are not specific to Hollywood, celebrities or politicians, this one's for you... Discuss. wink

Hollywood sexual harassment thread

http://prince.org/msg/105/449181

Everyone needs to be caught up on what crosses the line, what is illegal and what constitutes sexual harassment/assault etc and also people need to know the penalties of false accusations as well. Outside of 'No Means No' I don't know if society at large knows the 'bilaws' of human interaction when it comes to a sexual communication. And we live in a society that if more and more communicating via technology and not the 5 senses. People are meeting others view websites/twitter/apps/FB. Before you met someone on the dancefloor, school functions, bars, skating rinks, bowling alleys etc it was all organic, except for those few back of the paper ads.

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I work with a lady who gets extremely offended if she is refered to has 'Sugar, Honey, Darling, Sweety etc' And we had to learn not to use those terms with her in play. But last week I got a call from a lady in a different dept because she got upset because we sent a caller to their office A when it should have gone to office B. And she addressed me as Sugar, and then Darling. But we all can also say a large amount of female waitresses, use Sweety Honey Sugar when addressing patrons.

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Our office is a small group of people and there has always been an extended family feel to the group. We've all hung out, happy hour, been to others house for Christmas Parties or other functions etc so we don't really have a cut and dry fine line between employee/social associates etc Now the guys bust balls, antagonize, talk junk etc and we laugh about it. That guy thing we do. Very supportive group of people. Tree lovers. I've found that the lady, who I was friends with for a long time, is very sensitive about certian topics. And people adjust to her pretty easily. Most times they just avoid her or just will shut down conversations. But she being very outspoken about how a man must deal with a woman. She's gone as far to tell us she feels 'all the men I work with should treat me as good as my husband does'.

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But she will refer to grown men as boy 'attaboy', she's pinched the cheeks(facial) of a few of the younger newer male coworks, and dispite my demands for her not to touch me -she has crossed the lines in touching my muscles. She has admitted to being out at a bar on St Patricks Day and using an instrument to lift the back of a male patrons kilt to see if he was naked underneath.

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The lines are really blurry when it comes to crossing certain lines. I'm not talking about actual sexual assault/rape. But those everyday things that seem like nothing, but can be.

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Also in looking at a lot of this stuff, I'm reminded that we all come from such diverse backgrounds and cultures, that we are walking in a society of confusion.
I grew up in a family that was a balance of conservative/liberal. My father tended to be more conservative and my mom more liberal. (I don't mean this in a political way) My mom kept her love beads up until the early 90s and her homemade disco ball. Were pretty relaxed talking about sex or laughing at dirty jokes etc, but other people come from homes/families the opposite of mine.

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People are still weird about sex, have 'moral or spiritual' conflicts about sex etc and that stuff crosses into relationships when people don't acknowledge what they want or don't want. Men are taught to go after it, women are taught to restrain. Somethings wrong with a man if he is going after women and having sex, and somethings wrong with a woman if she wants sex and lots of it.

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We had a group of friends back in the 80s that reflected that diverse background. One girl would be offended if you said the word 'fart'. Literally. You had to say 'pass gas'. You couldn't just be in the area and drop by their house if you saw them outside. I offered to pay for the girls pass to an amusement park, and the father made a huge deal of it(like it was a way that I would take advantage of his daugher (even though he wanted me to marry her) We were only 16 at the time. And I had absolutely no interest in her. People who come from a more religious community are going to view sex and everything surrounding it much different than someone who was not raised that way. Some ethnic cultures are more 'prim and proper' about interacting with the opposite sex, whereas others are more hands on and sensual. If you look at even how people dance, some people dance with space between their bodies, others are swinging and bodies gyrating and grinding on each other. Actually the lady I work with told me she was out at a bar and she saw a couple dancing like that, and she got offended that he had his hands on her ass while dancing etc and literally went up to them and she scolded him he was exploiting her.

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We can talk about so many, not so obvious places where someone can mistakenly cross a line with someone. Societies are changing so much. There is a new movie Denzel Washington is starring in, and there is a scene where he addressing an audience and looks over and sees two woman standing and chides the males in the audience that why are they sitting and these women standing. And the women say 'that's sexist' and then he says something else and they come back on him with something else. And this thought is out there, but we also know there are women who think a man should give up his seat for her, open her door, open and hold the door for her etc whether he knows her or not.
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I remember just a year ago, walking to the doors at Barnes n Nobles and seeing a young lady come through the first set of door. She must have seen me coming and she stopped and stood behind the 'outgoing' door. I walked up to the 'incoming door' opened it and she immediately stepped through the door as if that was my job or what she expects being female. I paused and just eh kept going.

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I've also experienced certain Asian women who will no speak to men or look at them.

I've worked in an office at CityHall were the women were raunchy and talked about sex and things that it took me a while to get comfortable with. I even had a female assistant manager tell me one day inthe middle of the office, when she saw I had a pimple, to go home, wank off and put some of it on the pimple, that the protein would bring it down.
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And then I worked in a place where it is 99% men and they were very 'conservative' about that kind of stuff, on the job.

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In general, men know they cannot just reach out and touch a womans body. But many women don't get that they cannot just reach out and touch a mans body, especially if he is muscled. People think they can just feel a persons shoulders biceps thighs even without asking. That blurred line of thinking.

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I think the small the country and the people are still majority the original ethnic group, changes can be inacted easily. Bigger countries like the USA with so many States, and varying legislative laws state to state, is going to have an extremely harder time, changing things always.

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Parents if they can need to talk to their kids about sex. Boys and Girls have to understand no means no, to be alert to situations where they could be accused of something, both need to know what 'going to bed' means, what bedrooms of people we are attracted to means, laying down-dry humping, heavy kissing/petting etc The more people (youth and adults) understand their needs, issues etc more impowered they will be to be in control of themselves. And still with all that sex is such an 'animal' act/expression.

But issues of conduct need to be continually talked about and addressed, because society does continue to evolve. There has to be more open dialogue and as sensitive as these issues are, we have to anyways.

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Reply #4 posted 11/19/17 11:56am

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There is a power difference.

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Reply #5 posted 11/19/17 7:20pm

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I don't understand why men must have to behave in some special way with women or being " a gentleman" what the hell is that? do we want equality or we don't.

[Edited 11/19/17 19:20pm]

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Reply #6 posted 11/19/17 8:53pm

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The "Golden Rule" dictates that you Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You.

But, what if you're a masochist?

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Reply #7 posted 11/20/17 7:32am

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Forward only trust robots. Build a wall and keep everyone out. People will come after you if you have money. You can't trust anyone.

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Reply #8 posted 11/20/17 10:55am

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The New York Times has suspended White House Correspondent, Glenn Thrush over accusations of sexual harassment. Interestingly, Thrush claims to be an advocate for women journalists.

https://www.vox.com/polic...york-times

As I always taught my daughter, NEVER trust a male feminist.



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We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #9 posted 11/20/17 11:15am

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Why can't more men be gentlemen like me and DJ.

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Reply #10 posted 11/20/17 1:23pm

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^ Why can't more view men as decent people unless proven otherwise?

Why is it okay to trash men for being men, especially for being straight "cis" men? It's called misandry and it is, unfortunately, socially acceptable in contemporary mainstream western society. It should be just as unacceptable as misogyny is. The term "sexist" does not mean just one sex, obviously.

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Reply #11 posted 11/20/17 3:01pm

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Why can't more men be gentlemen like me and DJ.

How do you define "gentlemen"?

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Reply #12 posted 11/21/17 7:55am

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It would never enter my mind to do that. and I'm a pig. lol

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Reply #13 posted 11/21/17 8:34pm

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I don't know any women who doesn't have a story about being sexually harassed. I know too many women who've confessed they have been victims of rape, by men they thought they knew. Even more disturbing, a lot of women I know first encounter with sexual harassment starts when they are girls. I was six year of age walking to school when the driver slowed down as his passenger stroked his dick. In hindsight, they could have easily grabbed me of the street. My mother told me she was eight when a painter painting her mothers home grabbed her breast. My daughter was 14 when a Wendy's manager proposition her, he was 38 years of age. I have about 8 other situations I could tell you I had to deal with. My mother named a dozen times in her lifetime... including being grabbed off the street and being chased by a man welding a knife through a park pregnant with me. This was the good old days... late 1950's.

Too many men think their erections is everybody's problem. What I've learned given the opportunity more men than we'd like to admit are capable of pulling this shit. A man who sexually harasses women are capable of rape.

NPR ( National Public Radio) spoke about the economic fall out when women change profession to avoid jobs for which men do and can get away with sexually harassment. In most respects those jobs are lower paying which means earning power and economic independence is greatly impacted. Well into the 1980's in the US if a women accused a man of rape, the defense attorney could bring up and question a women about her sexual history. An attorney could question a woman about her life style and bring up how she dressed. The US Supreme Court fifty-three years ago said, a man married couldn't be charged with raping his wife; that decision didn't change until the mid 70's.

In a country (USA) the public is constantly hyped that a boogie-man is going to kill them in their beds or a Mexican going to rape (Donald Trump) white woman. The majority of women know their rapist and 35% of women are raped by a family member. In his 1995 autobiography, Nathan McCall, "Makes Me Want To Holler" wrote about his friends running trains on teenage girls. Running a train is slang for gang rap. Mr. McCall wrote, in one instance the girl picked to be raped was the sister of one of the participants.

There is a quote supposedly attributed to writer Marage Atwood...

"Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them."

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Why Cyntoia Brown, who is spending life in prison for murder, is all over social media

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This week, the case of a woman named Cyntoia Brown went viral on social media, even though she has already been in jail for more than ten years.

Brown is serving a life sentence for the murder of a Nashville man in 2004. According to Brown, after a childhood marked by abuse and drugs, she was raped and forced into prostitution by a pimp, and ended up killing one of her clients out of self defense when she was just 16 years old. Despite her youth, she was tried as an adult and given a life sentence.

The details of her crime and trial -- including the fact that the man who had paid for sex with her was 43 years old, have started circulating again, catching the attention of A-list celebrities and spawning the viral hashtag #FreeCyntoiaBrown. However, even before the renewed interest, her trial inspired a documentary and was a factor in a major change in how the state of Tennessee deals with child prostitution cases.

How a years-old case ignited new interest

Though it's unclear why, specifically, Brown's story came back into the spotlight, a text post describing Brown's history and trial appeared to pick up serious steam when it was shared by singer Rihanna on Instagram.

"Imagine at the age of 16 being sex-trafficked by a pimp named "cut-throat." After days of being repeatedly drugged and raped by different men you were purchased by a 43 year old child predator who took you to his home to use you for sex. You end up finding enough courage to fight back and shoot and kill him," the post reads.

"Your (sic) arrested as (sic) result tried and convicted as an adult and sentenced to life in prison," it continues. "This is the story of Cyntoia Brown. She will be eligible for parole when she is 69 years old."

"Something his horribly wrong when the system enables these rapists and the victim is thrown away for life," Rihanna wrote in her Instagram caption.

The same post was later shared by Kim Kardashian, Cara Delevigne, and other celebrities, journalists and activists, who questioned why an underage girl involved in prostitution was given such a harsh sentence.

The reemergence of her story has inspired several petitions asking ...n the case.

The story behind the posts

According to years of local media reports, a 2011 documentary about her case and court documents detailing Brown's own testimony and that of a juvenile psychiatrist, Brown suffered from Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, grew up in an abusive home and had run away from her adoptive parents' house prior to becoming involved in prostitution in Nashville.

"She was staying with different people and using drugs and alcohol," a 2014 petition for appeal reads. She then met a 24-year-old named "Cut Throat" who, according to the petition, eventually began physically and sexually abusing her and forced her into prostitution.

On August 7, 2004, Brown testified she was solicited for sex by 43-year-old Johnny Mitchell Allan, who picked her up near a Sonic parking lot and drove her back to his house. There, she testified, she saw a gun cabinet in Allan's room. She said she resisted his advances until he appeared to reach under the bed. Brown said she thought he was "gonna get a gun or is gonna do something to me." She then said she took a gun out of her purse and shot Allan.

During her trial, the prosecution argued that the motive for the killing was not self-defense, as Brown claimed, but rather robbery, since Brown took Allan's wallet after she shot him. She was tried as an adult and convicted of first degree murder, first degree felony murder and aggravated robbery. The convictions carried concurrent life sentences and eight additional years.

Brown's life sentence caught cri... Tennessee, and in 2012, a US Supreme Court ruling offered her advocates new hope. The Supreme Court decision banned life without parole for juveniles, stating it was unconstitutional. However, Brown's conviction does carry the possibility of parole -- when Brown is 69 years old. Still, her advocates are hoping the change, and continued interest in her story, will inspire a change in Tennessee law.

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Reply #15 posted 11/24/17 8:54am

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Let her out! That is outragious.

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Reply #16 posted 11/26/17 4:32pm

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Let her out! That is outragious.

Indeed, it was and injustice. She killed him out of self defense.

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Reply #17 posted 11/27/17 9:39am

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Why is everything funny?

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Reply #18 posted 11/27/17 9:49am

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Morning Joe defended Conyers. omg.

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Reply #19 posted 11/27/17 9:52am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Morning Joe defended Conyers. omg.


Pelosi is defending him too. And the Clintons are defending Franken.

And your comment and my resonse belong in the "political" thread... lol


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Reply #20 posted 11/27/17 10:06am

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Pelosi is awful

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Reply #21 posted 11/27/17 10:20am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Pelosi is awful


It amuses me when we agree... biggrin

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Reply #22 posted 11/27/17 12:31pm

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2freaky is awful. lol

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Reply #23 posted 12/04/17 2:04pm

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214 said:

I don't understand why men must have to behave in some special way with women or being " a gentleman" what the hell is that? do we want equality or we don't.

[Edited 11/19/17 19:20pm]

I agree 214. I don't expect a strange man to open a door for me. If he does I always thank him. No need for me to say, "Hey, I'm not an old lady, I can do it myself!" At the same time, I hold doors open for people (men and women).

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Here in the states those little gestures of "a gentleman" are few and far between mainly because of the women's movement in the early 70s. When I do witness some old school ones like standing when a woman leaves to "powder her nose" I must admit it catches me off guard!

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On the other hand----my son had damn sure better open a door for me and do the heavy lifting. I have earned that!

Men don't have to behave a special way around women. Just be civil and everyone keep your hands and other body parts inside your personal space.

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Reply #24 posted 12/04/17 4:39pm

214

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214 said:

I don't understand why men must have to behave in some special way with women or being " a gentleman" what the hell is that? do we want equality or we don't.

[Edited 11/19/17 19:20pm]

I agree 214. I don't expect a strange man to open a door for me. If he does I always thank him. No need for me to say, "Hey, I'm not an old lady, I can do it myself!" At the same time, I hold doors open for people (men and women).

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Here in the states those little gestures of "a gentleman" are few and far between mainly because of the women's movement in the early 70s. When I do witness some old school ones like standing when a woman leaves to "powder her nose" I must admit it catches me off guard!

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On the other hand----my son had damn sure better open a door for me and do the heavy lifting. I have earned that!

Men don't have to behave a special way around women. Just be civil and everyone keep your hands and other body parts inside your personal space.

Right on.

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Reply #25 posted 12/04/17 7:34pm

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214 said:

I don't understand why men must have to behave in some special way with women or being " a gentleman" what the hell is that? do we want equality or we don't.

[Edited 11/19/17 19:20pm]

I agree 214. I don't expect a strange man to open a door for me. If he does I always thank him. No need for me to say, "Hey, I'm not an old lady, I can do it myself!" At the same time, I hold doors open for people (men and women).

*

Here in the states those little gestures of "a gentleman" are few and far between mainly because of the women's movement in the early 70s. When I do witness some old school ones like standing when a woman leaves to "powder her nose" I must admit it catches me off guard!

*****************************************************

On the other hand----my son had damn sure better open a door for me and do the heavy lifting. I have earned that!

Men don't have to behave a special way around women. Just be civil and everyone keep your hands and other body parts inside your personal space.


My 16 year old son will rush to a door at a store and hold it open for women and men. He has been doing that since he was a little boy. I asked him once why he does it and he said, "It's the right thing to do." We hadn't taught him (as in telling him to do it) but he did watch his father and I do it, so he learned by example, and just extrapolated that it was the right thing to do.

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Reply #26 posted 12/05/17 3:19pm

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LadyLayla said:

I agree 214. I don't expect a strange man to open a door for me. If he does I always thank him. No need for me to say, "Hey, I'm not an old lady, I can do it myself!" At the same time, I hold doors open for people (men and women).

*

Here in the states those little gestures of "a gentleman" are few and far between mainly because of the women's movement in the early 70s. When I do witness some old school ones like standing when a woman leaves to "powder her nose" I must admit it catches me off guard!

*****************************************************

On the other hand----my son had damn sure better open a door for me and do the heavy lifting. I have earned that!

Men don't have to behave a special way around women. Just be civil and everyone keep your hands and other body parts inside your personal space.


My 16 year old son will rush to a door at a store and hold it open for women and men. He has been doing that since he was a little boy. I asked him once why he does it and he said, "It's the right thing to do." We hadn't taught him (as in telling him to do it) but he did watch his father and I do it, so he learned by example, and just extrapolated that it was the right thing to do.

That's lovely, he seems from this anecdote as very kind boy.

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Reply #27 posted 12/06/17 8:02am

Dasein

An excerpt from "The Unexamined Brutality of the Male Libido"

by Stephen Marche / NY Times:


"For most of history, we’ve taken for granted the implicit brutality of male sexuality. In 1976, the
radical feminist and pornography opponent Andrea Dworkin said that the only sex between a man
and a woman that could be undertaken without violence was sex with a flaccid penis: “I think that
men will have to give up their precious erections,” she wrote. In the third century A.D., it is widely
believed, the great Catholic theologian Origen, working on roughly the same principle, castrated
himself."

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Dasein said:

An excerpt from "The Unexamined Brutality of the Male Libido"

by Stephen Marche / NY Times:


"For most of history, we’ve taken for granted the implicit brutality of male sexuality. In 1976, the
radical feminist and pornography opponent Andrea Dworkin said that the only sex between a man
and a woman that could be undertaken without violence was sex with a flaccid penis: “I think that
men will have to give up their precious erections,” she wrote. In the third century A.D., it is widely
believed, the great Catholic theologian Origen, working on roughly the same principle, castrated
himself."

WOW

Andrea should just be a lesbian or Asexual

That comment is so UnNatural.

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anyone who has seen lions mating knows it 'looks' violent

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I think a big problem is that too many people have a problem with sex/sexual expression.
They equate 'Love Making' with soft kiss, slow movements, gazing in each others eyes etc. Naw that is just Sex, just like a 'Fast Fuck'

Until people reconcile their animal nature with their spiritual being, they will continue to have problems and guilts and confusions about sex.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
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Reply #29 posted 12/06/17 1:47pm

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Dasein said:

An excerpt from "The Unexamined Brutality of the Male Libido"

by Stephen Marche / NY Times:


"For most of history, we’ve taken for granted the implicit brutality of male sexuality. In 1976, the
radical feminist and pornography opponent Andrea Dworkin said that the only sex between a man
and a woman that could be undertaken without violence was sex with a flaccid penis: “I think that
men will have to give up their precious erections,” she wrote. In the third century A.D., it is widely
believed, the great Catholic theologian Origen, working on roughly the same principle, castrated
himself."


falloff lol lol lol lol

That's hilarious! It's cow2 doody , but it's hilarious...

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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