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Reply #90 posted 11/08/17 12:47pm

Dasein

langebleu said:

djThunderfunk said:


If you have a plan that will make all guns disappear share it.

As it is, guns do exist. There's approx. 300 million of them in the U.S. If all guns were made illegal today, only those not willing to break the law would have a gun. Anybody that is willing to shoot up a church and kill 27 people, including children, would be willing to have an illegal gun. A law abiding private citizen would not break the law and not have stopped the shooting. Likeley Kelley would have continued his rampage.

Therefore, I'm glad the neighbor did have a gun and was willing to shoot Kelley and chase him down until the cops finally arrived.


Really?

confuse

That solves it in a stroke .. so make guns illegal today, and then the only people who would own a gun would be those people who would be unwilling to break the law by murdering other people.

[Edited 11/8/17 12:15pm]


What you highlighted from DJ's post reveals that he either misspoke or doesn't know what he's
talking about because he certainly contradicted himself. If guns are illegal yet I am in possession
of them, then I was willing to break the law which obviously then makes me a criminal. I think
what DJ meant to say was "if all guns were made il
legal today, only those willing to break the law
would have a gun." The reason why this claim is
still made in error is because those criminals
who aren't allowed to possess guns at this very moment still manage to
find a way to do so: case
in point - the Texas murderer was NOT supposed to have a gun and was
still able to obtain one
for there are too many of them and someone will have one for sale (he was also able to acquire
a gun because of human error, but that is not my point here). So,
even if private citizens owning
guns was illegal, unless all guns were destroyed and/or confiscated, crooks would still be able to
get their paws on one.

Either way, any plea for continued gun ownership inherently places that right over my right to
safety and to live without encountering
gun violence, and that just makes me feel like crap - that
someone values their ability to buy and own a gun more than my desires to live in a peaceful
community without the fear of being gunned down innocently.

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Reply #91 posted 11/08/17 1:29pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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Dasein said:

langebleu said:


Really?

confuse

That solves it in a stroke .. so make guns illegal today, and then the only people who would own a gun would be those people who would be unwilling to break the law by murdering other people.

[Edited 11/8/17 12:15pm]


What you highlighted from DJ's post reveals that he either misspoke or doesn't know what he's
talking about because he certainly contradicted himself. If guns are illegal yet I am in possession
of them, then I was willing to break the law which obviously then makes me a criminal. I think
what DJ meant to say was "if all guns were made il
legal today, only those willing to break the law
would have a gun." The reason why this claim is
still made in error is because those criminals
who aren't allowed to possess guns at this very moment still manage to
find a way to do so: case
in point - the Texas murderer was NOT supposed to have a gun and was
still able to obtain one
for there are too many of them and someone will have one for sale (he was also able to acquire
a gun because of human error, but that is not my point here). So,
even if private citizens owning
guns was illegal, unless all guns were destroyed and/or confiscated, crooks would still be able to
get their paws on one.

Either way, any plea for continued gun ownership inherently places that right over my right to
safety and to live without encountering
gun violence, and that just makes me feel like crap - that
someone values their ability to buy and own a gun more than my desires to live in a peaceful
community without the fear of being gunned down innocently.

why should one right trump any other? and really it is your right to FEEL safe. if you are victimised then you may seek remedy via the criminal and civil courts.


And please address the topic: what features make a rife into an assault rifle? And how do they make said rifle more deadly?

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Reply #92 posted 11/08/17 1:46pm

djThunderfunk

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langebleu said:


Really?

confuse

That solves it in a stroke .. so make guns illegal today, and then the only people who would own a gun would be those people who would be unwilling to break the law by murdering other people.


Typos happen. wink

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Reply #93 posted 11/08/17 2:01pm

langebleu

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Thanks for clarifying. Understood.

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Reply #94 posted 11/08/17 2:24pm

djThunderfunk

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langebleu said:

Thanks for clarifying. Understood.


No. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. biggrin

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Reply #95 posted 11/08/17 2:30pm

Dasein

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Dasein said:


What you highlighted from DJ's post reveals that he either misspoke or doesn't know what he's
talking about because he certainly contradicted himself. If guns are illegal yet I am in possession
of them, then I was willing to break the law which obviously then makes me a criminal. I think
what DJ meant to say was "if all guns were made il
legal today, only those willing to break the law
would have a gun." The reason why this claim is
still made in error is because those criminals
who aren't allowed to possess guns at this very moment still manage to
find a way to do so: case
in point - the Texas murderer was NOT supposed to have a gun and was
still able to obtain one
for there are too many of them and someone will have one for sale (he was also able to acquire
a gun because of human error, but that is not my point here). So,
even if private citizens owning
guns was illegal, unless all guns were destroyed and/or confiscated, crooks would still be able to
get their paws on one.

Either way, any plea for continued gun ownership inherently places that right over my right to
safety and to live without encountering
gun violence, and that just makes me feel like crap - that
someone values their ability to buy and own a gun more than my desires to live in a peaceful
community without the fear of being gunned down innocently.

why should one right trump any other? and really it is your right to FEEL safe. if you are victimised then you may seek remedy via the criminal and civil courts.


And please address the topic: what features make a rife into an assault rifle? And how do they make said rifle more deadly?


Because your pleas for continued gun ownership carries the potential for danger more than my
pleas to get rid of all guns - that's why one right should trump the other - duh. The context which
promises more safety and less violence which is conducive to my well-being and flourishing trumps
the context in which less safety and more violence is promised, if we are going to appeal to claims
like "life is worth living" or "being alive, for most of us most of the time, is better than not being
alive." Again - duh.

I've addressed the topic: I took your word for it that there isn't a difference between a rifle and an
assault rifle, which means it must be the case logically that because there is no difference between
the two other than one being a "made up term," then a rifle can't be any more or less dangerous
than an assault rifle.


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Reply #96 posted 11/08/17 2:59pm

gimmesomehornz

What's an "Assault" weapon? Is there a weapon incapable of assaulting?

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Reply #97 posted 11/08/17 3:13pm

djThunderfunk

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DIY assault weapon...

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Reply #98 posted 11/08/17 4:46pm

RodeoSchro

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djThunderfunk said:

DIY assault weapon...



Aim it at a Nazi and I'm on board.

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Reply #99 posted 11/08/17 5:02pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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Dasein said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

why should one right trump any other? and really it is your right to FEEL safe. if you are victimised then you may seek remedy via the criminal and civil courts.


And please address the topic: what features make a rife into an assault rifle? And how do they make said rifle more deadly?


Because your pleas for continued gun ownership carries the potential for danger more than my
pleas to get rid of all guns - that's why one right should trump the other - duh.

I disagree on both. And even if part one was true that is one reason we have the right so no "I know better than you" busybody can come and make up lies to take them,


The context which promises more safety and less violence which is conducive to my well-being and flourishing trumps the context in which less safety and more violence is promised, if we are going to appeal to claims like "life is worth living" or "being alive, for most of us most of the time, is better than not being alive." Again - duh.


Must you be insulting? Oh and I do not agree... big shock!

I've addressed the topic: I took your word for it that there isn't a difference between a rifle and an assault rifle, which means it must be the case logically that because there is no difference between the two other than one being a "made up term," then a rifle can't be any more or less dangerous than an assault rifle.

Then you have no real reason to post in this topic


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Reply #100 posted 11/08/17 5:03pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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djThunderfunk said:

DIY assault weapon...

is you arm 300 Meters long?

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Reply #101 posted 11/08/17 5:13pm

djThunderfunk

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

djThunderfunk said:

DIY assault weapon...

is you arm 300 Meters long?


That's what the Sig is for. wink

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Reply #102 posted 11/09/17 9:13am

RodeoSchro

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

djThunderfunk said:

DIY assault weapon...

is you arm 300 Meters long?



Only if I get a running start.

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