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Thread started 10/09/17 4:19am

hausofmoi7

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Venezuela. Trumps sanctions, travel ban and threats of war.

The other thread is locked now.
Continuing the discussion around the western elites attack on Venezuela.
Venezuela is a socialist country with the worlds largest oil reserve.
There are layers to why western elite capitalists want to see Venezuela fail and why they are doing everything they can to see to it.
The attack on Venezuela is similar to the U.S and British attack on Mossadegh, his political movement in Iran and the subsequent coup to install the Shah.




Trump has added Venezuelans to his travel ban list and has threatened military action against the country.
In addition to CIA support of a racist and classist uprising against the government, last month Trumps sanctions on Venezuela blocked 18 million boxes of food from entering the country.



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"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #1 posted 10/12/17 8:30pm

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Venezuela holding elections again this month.
Maduro is likely to remain in office, that won't stop people from calling Venezuela a dictatorship.
The opposition don't have enough support to win an election.



The U.S is still sanctioning Venezuela and blocking the nation from trading to its full capacity.
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #2 posted 10/12/17 8:35pm

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Venezuela says Trump is acting like 'the world's emperor'

https://www.google.com.au...k-at-trump

Venezuela’s top diplomat has accused Donald Trump of acting like “the world’s emperor”, after the US president denounced the government of Nicolás Maduro on the global stage of the UN General Assembly.

The foreign minister Jorge Arreaza’s speech at assembly came a day after Trump signed a travel ban affecting some Venezuelan officials, and nearly a week after Trump denounced turmoil-racked Venezuela’s “corrupt regime” in his own address to the assembly’s annual gathering of world leaders.


As if he were the world’s emperor, the president of the United States, Donald Trump, used this podium built for peace to announce wars, total destruction of member states” and “coercive measures, threatening and judging as if he had absolute, dictatorial powers over the sovereign member states of our organization,” Arreaza said. Trump had threatened to “totally destroy” North Korea if forced to defend the US or its allies.


Invoking the former Venezuelan president Hugo Chávez’s famous quip that the podium “smells like sulfur” after George W Bush addressed the assembly in 2006, Arreaza said: “It’s still valid.” But he added later that his country was open to dialogue with the US.
The US had no immediate response to Arreaza’s remarks.
Venezuela’s government has faced international criticism since the country’s supreme court gutted the opposition-controlled congress in March. The ruling was later reversed. Recently, a new constitutional assembly composed entirely of government loyalists has gone after Maduro’s political opponents. Several opposition mayors and leaders have been jailed.
Tens of thousands of Venezuelans have fled the political tumult, triple-digit inflation and widespread shortages of food and medicine. The country’s oil-dependent economy spiraled into crisis after world oil prices began a plunge in 2014.
Trump’s administration slapped sweeping economic sanctions on Venezuela last month, and the president said he wouldn’t rule out US military action against the country. Last week, Trump devoted as much of his debut general assembly speech to excoriating Venezuela, as he did to North Korea, Syria and Iran.


“This corrupt regime destroyed a prosperous nation by imposing a failed ideology,” Trump said of the socialist country. He added that the US was “prepared to take further action if the government of Venezuela persists on its path to impose authoritarian rule”.
Maduro responded last week from Caracas by calling Trump “the new Hitler” of international politics and accusing Trump of threatening to assassinate him, though Trump did not say that.
On Sunday, Trump signed an order that will bar certain Venezuelan government officials and their immediate families from entering the US. The Trump administration says Venezuela’s government has been uncooperative in verifying whether its citizens represent national security threats.

Venezuela’s foreign ministry denounced the travel restrictions Monday as a form of “political and psychological terrorism”. Arreaza said at a news conference that it was “an unfounded strategy to soften the public opinion and to try to make a case against Venezuela”.

He said his country was “looking for dialogue” with and channels to the Trump administration.
“For the moment, it has not been possible, but the will is there,” Arreaza said. “But, I insist, if they attack us in whatever area, we will respond strongly in defense of our homeland, of our people.”
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #3 posted 10/16/17 4:26am

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Go run and tell that.

Governing Socialist Party Wins Venezuela's Regional Polls

https://www.telesurtv.net...-0031.html

The Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said it was the highest turnout in 15 years - more than 10 million people voted.
Official results from Venezuela's regional elections show the governing socialist party, Psuv, has won 17 out of 22 governorships - with one still left to count.

Turnout was 61.14 percent in Sunday's polls.

Ballots were cast at 13,559 polling stations nationwide.

The Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said it was the highest turnout in 15 years - more than 10 million people voted. Maduro also said the Psuv won 54 percent

Earlier Maduro said the elections had been conducted in a peaceful, exemplary way, "There has not been a single incident, electoral process in peace, perfect."

Cuba, Bolivia and Nicaragua have all sent their congratulations to Venezuela.

The Bolivian President, Evo Morales, posted a tweet which said, "Democracy has won over intervention and conspiracy. The people defend their sovereignty and dignity."


This is the second election this year in the South American country — the first was held on July 30 to elect members of the National Constituent Assembly, ANC.

Speaking at a news conference, Rodriguez praised the Venezuelan people for going to the polls and ratifying their desire to live in peace. "This was an election convened by the National Constituent Assembly and we were not mistaken," said Rodriguez. "This election has allowed us to consolidate the peace and to defend (our) sovereignty".

She added that the ballot had defeated the opposition's violent agenda and is a lesson from Venezuela to the people of the world.
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #4 posted 10/16/17 8:07am

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I don´t trust election results in Venezuela because I know how Erdogan and his cohorts manipulated elections in Turkey, so there´s that.

It´s understandable that many poor Venezuelans voted for Maduro because the oppositon in the past was often just a bunch of rich folks who were subservient to the US but now that the country is down in the dumps most folks don´t want to see Maduro any longer either, or do they?

And why do Venezuelans fall under the travel ban now? For what reason? I´ve never heard of any Venezuelan troublemakers who travel to the States to commit acts of terror. Doesn´t really make sense to me.

By the way, Turkish citizens are now also excempt from entering the USA. And vice versa.....Americans don´t get visa to enter Turkey anymore....but that´s off topic, so I don´t want to go there, really.

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Reply #5 posted 10/16/17 8:18am

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The big problem is capital flight.

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Reply #6 posted 10/16/17 9:07am

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2freaky4church1 said:

The big problem is capital flight.

would you keep all yours in a system that is clearly failing knowing you would lose is all?

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Reply #7 posted 10/16/17 9:09am

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Adding Venezuela and North Korea to the travel ban seems to me to be more about being able to say "see it is not JUST Muslims."

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Reply #8 posted 10/16/17 10:31am

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2freaky4church1 said:

The big problem is capital flight.


Not just capital. Venezuelans are fleeing the country too. They want to get away from the poverty and the oppression.
Don't ever lose your dreams.
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Reply #9 posted 10/17/17 5:42pm

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NorthC said:

2freaky4church1 said:

The big problem is capital flight.


Not just capital. Venezuelans are fleeing the country too. They want to get away from the poverty and the oppression.

Getting away from the effects of U.S sanctions and CIA tampering with the country via the opposition.
U.S can not claim to care about Venezuela whilst sanctioning and manipulating the economy to make it fail.
Just leave Venezuela alone, don't terrorize them.
Why is that so hard for the CIA to do?
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #10 posted 10/17/17 5:45pm

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KoolEaze said:

I don´t trust election results in Venezuela because I know how Erdogan and his cohorts manipulated elections in Turkey, so there´s that.


It´s understandable that many poor Venezuelans voted for Maduro because the oppositon in the past was often just a bunch of rich folks who were subservient to the US but now that the country is down in the dumps most folks don´t want to see Maduro any longer either, or do they?


And why do Venezuelans fall under the travel ban now? For what reason? I´ve never heard of any Venezuelan troublemakers who travel to the States to commit acts of terror. Doesn´t really make sense to me.


By the way, Turkish citizens are now also excempt from entering the USA. And vice versa.....Americans don´t get visa to enter Turkey anymore....but that´s off topic, so I don´t want to go there, really.


U.S can be skeptical all they like, that doesn't give them the right to sanction and try to overthrow the Bolivarian revolution.

This is about Oil and privatization of the resources, nothing more.


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"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #11 posted 10/18/17 12:35am

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hausofmoi7 said:

NorthC said:


Not just capital. Venezuelans are fleeing the country too. They want to get away from the poverty and the oppression.

Getting away from the effects of U.S sanctions and CIA tampering with the country via the opposition.
U.S can not claim to care about Venezuela whilst sanctioning and manipulating the economy to make it fail.
Just leave Venezuela alone, don't terrorize them.
Why is that so hard for the CIA to do?

I know there is no point in having a discussion with you because in your world, EVERYTHING is the fault of the USA.
Don't ever lose your dreams.
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Reply #12 posted 10/18/17 2:06am

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NorthC said:

hausofmoi7 said:


Getting away from the effects of U.S sanctions and CIA tampering with the country via the opposition.
U.S can not claim to care about Venezuela whilst sanctioning and manipulating the economy to make it fail.
Just leave Venezuela alone, don't terrorize them.
Why is that so hard for the CIA to do?

I know there is no point in having a discussion with you because in your world, EVERYTHING is the fault of the USA.

The CIA have uncategorically said they are trying to overthrow the Bolivarian revolution. For no apparent reason apart from stealing their natural resources.
Venezuelans are now on the travel ban list.
Roman Catholic Marxists are now also a threat to national security and also need to be sanctioned and militarily taken out.


Capitalism and White supremacy propaganda is boundless.



however, please tell us why Venezuelans are deserving of U.S and CIA aggression?





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[Edited 10/18/17 2:49am]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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