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Reply #30 posted 07/17/17 8:57am

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RodeoSchro said:

djThunderfunk said:


lol Just sayin', fair is fair.

I'm all for nobody EVER using that "tactic" again. Those that use it when it suits them and scoff at it when it doesn't (not saying you do this) are hypocrites. No?

And yes, I'm aware I have scoffed and here I used it... I'm merely throwing it back. razz wink

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You can't be "all for nobody EVER using that 'tactic again" AND admit that you use it! Take a stand, show some character. If you have a good argument, that's all you need.


Right. But some (again, not you) seem oblivious to their own hypocrisy, even when they're "reasoning" is mirrored. It's quite remarkable really.

Personally, I find almost all media to be biased and feel none should be trusted wholesale or disregarded wholesale. To be balanced, I find it necessary to check out "left" & "right" media in search of the truth in the middle. wink


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Reply #31 posted 07/17/17 9:00am

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even just the bottle (empty and MORE so if it had any liquid in it) is a potentially deadly weapon. It is not like the movies where you smash a bottle over someone's head and they pass out and wake up an hour later with a headache but are otherwise fine... NO! you can die... and that is with out it breaking and being stabbed.

she was armed... so no matter what was in the bottle... it was a potential weapon... just like if it was a gun... so the punch may have well been justified and it was certainly not proven that it was not.

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Reply #32 posted 07/17/17 9:11am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Onlyindabrain, isn't it odd that Denver Colorado was 98 degrees?

you mean there is weather? maybe that is caused by all the weed? And here you are making a few mistakes. One is my fault for not saying "man made reversible." But you also committed the fallacy of confusing weather with climate.

and you also seem to ignore that the earth has had many times of warmer and colder climate... I happen to think that the SUN is the main cause of our climate... it interacts with the liquid dynamic air currents and the tilt of the earth and the rotation of the earth and all that stuff...

Yeah, "all that stuff..." that you don't know what it is but it's the sun - nothing to do with man screwing up the atmosphere.

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Reply #33 posted 07/17/17 9:13am

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djThunderfunk said:

RodeoSchro said:



You can't be "all for nobody EVER using that 'tactic again" AND admit that you use it! Take a stand, show some character. If you have a good argument, that's all you need.


Right. But some (again, not you) seem oblivious to their own hypocrisy, even when they're "reasoning" is mirrored. It's quite remarkable really.

Personally, I find almost all media to be biased and feel none should be trusted wholesale or disregarded wholesale. To be balanced, I find it necessary to check out "left" & "right" media in search of the truth in the middle. wink


I want to point out a Yuge double standard... when a conservative that was ever not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line gets outed as gay to several people here and to many on the left see that as a good thing and as a basis for that person to lose their office... (or cheats on their wife but was ever for family values) BECAUSE they violated their own standard!

YET! When a liberal says or does something racist and thus violates their own standard that is excused because their Past standard was so good? And this goes so DEEP that some will call those calling them out for their racist remarks as being racist and that we are just mad that we can not say the same thing?

but we all know some of them will want to come in and say how i am wrong or just do not get it... watch!

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Reply #34 posted 07/17/17 9:44am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



djThunderfunk said:




RodeoSchro said:





You can't be "all for nobody EVER using that 'tactic again" AND admit that you use it! Take a stand, show some character. If you have a good argument, that's all you need.




Right. But some (again, not you) seem oblivious to their own hypocrisy, even when they're "reasoning" is mirrored. It's quite remarkable really.

Personally, I find almost all media to be biased and feel none should be trusted wholesale or disregarded wholesale. To be balanced, I find it necessary to check out "left" & "right" media in search of the truth in the middle. wink






I want to point out a Yuge double standard... when a conservative that was ever not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line gets outed as gay to several people here and to many on the left see that as a good thing and as a basis for that person to lose their office... (or cheats on their wife but was ever for family values) BECAUSE they violated their own standard!

YET! When a liberal says or does something racist and thus violates their own standard that is excused because their Past standard was so good? And this goes so DEEP that some will call those calling them out for their racist remarks as being racist and that we are just mad that we can not say the same thing?



but we all know some of them will want to come in and say how i am wrong or just do not get it... watch!



Not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line ??? Ha ! Some of these folks were virulently anti-gay, yet were sucking cock in men's rooms or in the woods! You don't see that as hypocritical?? Or how about the (thankfully) late Roy Cohn giving anti-gay speeches to "family values" groups, and then leaving with his male lover?

And what "liberals" have been "excused for racism" ?
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Reply #35 posted 07/17/17 10:21am

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jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I want to point out a Yuge double standard... when a conservative that was ever not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line gets outed as gay to several people here and to many on the left see that as a good thing and as a basis for that person to lose their office... (or cheats on their wife but was ever for family values) BECAUSE they violated their own standard!

YET! When a liberal says or does something racist and thus violates their own standard that is excused because their Past standard was so good? And this goes so DEEP that some will call those calling them out for their racist remarks as being racist and that we are just mad that we can not say the same thing?

but we all know some of them will want to come in and say how i am wrong or just do not get it... watch!

Not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line ??? Ha ! Some of these folks were virulently anti-gay, yet were sucking cock in men's rooms or in the woods! You don't see that as hypocritical??

it is hyporctitical... sure...


Or how about the (thankfully) late Roy Cohn giving anti-gay speeches to "family values" groups, and then leaving with his male lover?


Yep


And what "liberals" have been "excused for racism" ?


many of them... but see i can not and will not name then as you will excuse them all

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Reply #36 posted 07/17/17 10:28am

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I thought being armed was a right? Yea, she should let fascists punch her in the face, thanks.

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Reply #37 posted 07/17/17 10:32am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:




I want to point out a Yuge double standard... when a conservative that was ever not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line gets outed as gay to several people here and to many on the left see that as a good thing and as a basis for that person to lose their office... (or cheats on their wife but was ever for family values) BECAUSE they violated their own standard!

YET! When a liberal says or does something racist and thus violates their own standard that is excused because their Past standard was so good? And this goes so DEEP that some will call those calling them out for their racist remarks as being racist and that we are just mad that we can not say the same thing?



but we all know some of them will want to come in and say how i am wrong or just do not get it... watch!



Not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line ??? Ha ! Some of these folks were virulently anti-gay, yet were sucking cock in men's rooms or in the woods! You don't see that as hypocritical??

it is hyporctitical... sure...


Or how about the (thankfully) late Roy Cohn giving anti-gay speeches to "family values" groups, and then leaving with his male lover?


Yep


And what "liberals" have been "excused for racism" ?


many of them... but see i can not and will not name then as you will excuse them all



Don't assume what response I might have. If someone says or did something genuinely racist or bigoted, I would call them out on it. But I would also look at the totality, including the context, before I made a blanket condemnation. If someone just made a stupid or misguided joke, I'm not going to equate it with a burning cross or denying someone a place to live, just because you think we should.
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Reply #38 posted 07/17/17 10:33am

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I was the one who promoted the book Liberal Racism.

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Reply #39 posted 07/17/17 10:38am

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jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I want to point out a Yuge double standard... when a conservative that was ever not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line gets outed as gay to several people here and to many on the left see that as a good thing and as a basis for that person to lose their office... (or cheats on their wife but was ever for family values) BECAUSE they violated their own standard!

YET! When a liberal says or does something racist and thus violates their own standard that is excused because their Past standard was so good? And this goes so DEEP that some will call those calling them out for their racist remarks as being racist and that we are just mad that we can not say the same thing?

but we all know some of them will want to come in and say how i am wrong or just do not get it... watch!

Not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line ??? Ha ! Some of these folks were virulently anti-gay, yet were sucking cock in men's rooms or in the woods! You don't see that as hypocritical?? Or how about the (thankfully) late Roy Cohn giving anti-gay speeches to "family values" groups, and then leaving with his male lover? And what "liberals" have been "excused for racism" ?

The new tactic is just to say all of that is "fake news" "never happened" "Hillary's emails" "Benghazi". It just saves time.

Matthew 5:38-39
“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
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Reply #40 posted 07/17/17 10:39am

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They talked about a poll that said most Americans want facts. Good.

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Reply #41 posted 07/17/17 10:43am

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I thought being armed was a right? Yea, she should let fascists punch her in the face, thanks.

it is! but your point fails but nice try... (well not really)

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Reply #42 posted 07/17/17 10:49am

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We need to tell the truth about the event. Antifa went there, Nazis went there. The Nazis egged on Antifa, Antifa used violence, the nazis did. End of story.

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Reply #43 posted 07/17/17 10:50am

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jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Don't assume what response I might have. If someone says or did something genuinely racist or bigoted, I would call them out on it. But I would also look at the totality, including the context, before I made a blanket condemnation. If someone just made a stupid or misguided joke, I'm not going to equate it with a burning cross or denying someone a place to live, just because you think we should.

did...did I say you? humm? did i? but as i predicted you DO make up excuses... when you could do what I did and say "that was messed up and there is no excuse...." (freudian slip)?

I think many people slip up and let the truth come out as then pass it off as a bad joke.... or whatever... and I am pretty sure I have never once made any such equating... weird. I think I went out of my way to say that I do think that burning a cross should be a major offense even if the actual act is minor... (and if you do not agree you are just not separating the motive/message from the physical act)

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Reply #44 posted 07/17/17 11:04am

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13cjk13 said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:




I want to point out a Yuge double standard... when a conservative that was ever not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line gets outed as gay to several people here and to many on the left see that as a good thing and as a basis for that person to lose their office... (or cheats on their wife but was ever for family values) BECAUSE they violated their own standard!

YET! When a liberal says or does something racist and thus violates their own standard that is excused because their Past standard was so good? And this goes so DEEP that some will call those calling them out for their racist remarks as being racist and that we are just mad that we can not say the same thing?



but we all know some of them will want to come in and say how i am wrong or just do not get it... watch!



Not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line ??? Ha ! Some of these folks were virulently anti-gay, yet were sucking cock in men's rooms or in the woods! You don't see that as hypocritical?? Or how about the (thankfully) late Roy Cohn giving anti-gay speeches to "family values" groups, and then leaving with his male lover? And what "liberals" have been "excused for racism" ?

The new tactic is just to say all of that is "fake news" "never happened" "Hillary's emails" "Benghazi". It just saves time.



So true. This constant screaming of "fake news" has made the less discerning among us to dismiss any story that they don't like or makes them uncomfortable
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Reply #45 posted 07/17/17 11:09am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:




Don't assume what response I might have. If someone says or did something genuinely racist or bigoted, I would call them out on it. But I would also look at the totality, including the context, before I made a blanket condemnation. If someone just made a stupid or misguided joke, I'm not going to equate it with a burning cross or denying someone a place to live, just because you think we should.



did...did I say you? humm? did i? but as i predicted you DO make up excuses... when you could do what I did and say "that was messed up and there is no excuse...." (freudian slip)?

I think many people slip up and let the truth come out as then pass it off as a bad joke.... or whatever... and I am pretty sure I have never once made any such equating... weird. I think I went out of my way to say that I do think that burning a cross should be a major offense even if the actual act is minor... (and if you do not agree you are just not separating the motive/message from the physical act)



Since you were responding to my post directly I thought you were actually addressing me. And since here you DID mention me, when have I ever "made excuses"? Or does that just mean I didn't respond to something the way YOU thought I should...
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Reply #46 posted 07/17/17 11:12am

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jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

did...did I say you? humm? did i? but as i predicted you DO make up excuses... when you could do what I did and say "that was messed up and there is no excuse...." (freudian slip)?

I think many people slip up and let the truth come out as then pass it off as a bad joke.... or whatever... and I am pretty sure I have never once made any such equating... weird. I think I went out of my way to say that I do think that burning a cross should be a major offense even if the actual act is minor... (and if you do not agree you are just not separating the motive/message from the physical act)

Since you were responding to my post directly I thought you were actually addressing me.


You assumed


And since here you DID mention me, when have I ever "made excuses"?


but you did...

Or does that just mean I didn't respond to something the way YOU thought I should...


no it means you made an excuse for a liberal saying something racial

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Reply #47 posted 07/17/17 11:30am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:




did...did I say you? humm? did i? but as i predicted you DO make up excuses... when you could do what I did and say "that was messed up and there is no excuse...." (freudian slip)?

I think many people slip up and let the truth come out as then pass it off as a bad joke.... or whatever... and I am pretty sure I have never once made any such equating... weird. I think I went out of my way to say that I do think that burning a cross should be a major offense even if the actual act is minor... (and if you do not agree you are just not separating the motive/message from the physical act)




Since you were responding to my post directly I thought you were actually addressing me.


You assumed





And since here you DID mention me, when have I ever "made excuses"?


but you did...

Or does that just mean I didn't respond to something the way YOU thought I should...


no it means you made an excuse for a liberal saying something racial



When ? Provide an example .
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Reply #48 posted 07/17/17 11:31am

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jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

When ? Provide an example .

One example is Hillary's emails.

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Reply #49 posted 07/17/17 12:14pm

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jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

When ? Provide an example .

"But I would also look at the totality, including the context, before I made a blanket condemnation"

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Reply #50 posted 07/17/17 12:15pm

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13cjk13 said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:




When ? Provide an example .

One example is Hillary's emails.


lol lol lol
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Reply #51 posted 07/17/17 12:17pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:




When ? Provide an example .




"But I would also look at the totality, including the context, before I made a blanket condemnation"



So you WOULD NOT look at the context before you made your determination? Is that what you're saying??
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Reply #52 posted 07/17/17 12:17pm

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13cjk13 said:

jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: When ? Provide an example .

One example is Hillary's emails.

i am not sure what you are getting at...but she had 1000s of violations of the law in how she used her emails.... she admitted to it... comey said so... 1000s of violations. and that is not even getting into her criminal mishandling of classifed infomation.

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Reply #53 posted 07/17/17 2:37pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

I thought being armed was a right? Yea, she should let fascists punch her in the face, thanks.


On the way to the protest she tweeted about bringing back "100 nazi scalps". Keeping in mind that to her, anyone that disagrees with her politically is a nazi, she went looking for a fight and ran into political adversaries that were also looking for a fight.

A bunch of right wing extremists looking for a fight clashed with a bunch of left wing extremists looking for a fight. That's asking to get hurt, and any of them, left or right, that got their asses kicked, deserved it.


We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #54 posted 07/17/17 2:58pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I want to point out a Yuge double standard... when a conservative that was ever not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line gets outed as gay to several people here and to many on the left see that as a good thing and as a basis for that person to lose their office... (or cheats on their wife but was ever for family values) BECAUSE they violated their own standard!

YET! When a liberal says or does something racist and thus violates their own standard that is excused because their Past standard was so good? And this goes so DEEP that some will call those calling them out for their racist remarks as being racist and that we are just mad that we can not say the same thing?

but we all know some of them will want to come in and say how i am wrong or just do not get it... watch!

Not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line ??? Ha ! Some of these folks were virulently anti-gay, yet were sucking cock in men's rooms or in the woods! You don't see that as hypocritical?? Or how about the (thankfully) late Roy Cohn giving anti-gay speeches to "family values" groups, and then leaving with his male lover? And what "liberals" have been "excused for racism" ?

Thread winner to date.

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Reply #55 posted 07/18/17 7:53am

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You ever hear the term talking shit?

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Reply #56 posted 07/18/17 8:17am

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poppys said:

jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: Not 100% in lock step with the LGBTQ line ??? Ha ! Some of these folks were virulently anti-gay, yet were sucking cock in men's rooms or in the woods! You don't see that as hypocritical?? Or how about the (thankfully) late Roy Cohn giving anti-gay speeches to "family values" groups, and then leaving with his male lover? And what "liberals" have been "excused for racism" ?

Thread winner to date.

so are you admitting that you hold a double standard?

See i see them as being hypocrites just as is see any so called liberal that claims to be for diversity that uses a racial slur...and it is when people like you and JJ and other defend that kind of thing on one side but not the other (No person should be outed against their will) or want people they NEVER supported anyway to be fired or worst for being gay... that is sick. that is hierocracy!

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Reply #57 posted 07/18/17 8:32am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

poppys said:

Thread winner to date.

so are you admitting that you hold a double standard?

See i see them as being hypocrites just as is see any so called liberal that claims to be for diversity that uses a racial slur...and it is when people like you and JJ and other defend that kind of thing on one side but not the other (No person should be outed against their will) or want people they NEVER supported anyway to be fired or worst for being gay... that is sick. that is hierocracy!

What? Are? You? Making? Up? Now?

Hierocracy - rule by priests. Is this some kind of political bible study?

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Reply #58 posted 07/18/17 8:35am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

poppys said:

Thread winner to date.

so are you admitting that you hold a double standard?

See i see them as being hypocrites just as is see any so called liberal that claims to be for diversity that uses a racial slur...and it is when people like you and JJ and other defend that kind of thing on one side but not the other (No person should be outed against their will) or want people they NEVER supported anyway to be fired or worst for being gay... that is sick. that is hierocracy!

If a "liberal" displays true racism or bigotry, I will attack them. However, if it's just a stupid joke, I'm not going to crucify them over that just because YOU want us to. I enjoy "ethnic" and "insult" humor, and have often indulged in it myself. Amongst my friends and loved ones, we often make ethnic and racial jokes that some outside our circle might find very Non-PC, or perhaps even offensive (which is why we are careful who we say thesd things to), yet in our crowd among ourselves, they are perfectly acceptable. So there is no "one size fits all" rule. As I told you about 227 times already (though I suspect you never actually READ these things) CONTEXT is most important.

As for "outing" gays, I'm against it generally, but will make an exception if the person has taken PUBLIC anti-gay stances or pushed for anti-gay legislation, and they are gay themselves. Then, all bets are off !!

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poppys said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so are you admitting that you hold a double standard?

See i see them as being hypocrites just as is see any so called liberal that claims to be for diversity that uses a racial slur...and it is when people like you and JJ and other defend that kind of thing on one side but not the other (No person should be outed against their will) or want people they NEVER supported anyway to be fired or worst for being gay... that is sick. that is hierocracy!

What? Are? You? Making? Up? Now?

Hierocracy - rule by priests. Is this some kind of political bible study?

typo...

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