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Reply #90 posted 07/17/17 12:40pm

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herb4 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

i would be ticked that my person lost but i would not be calling to change it...

Riggghhhhhtttt......Guess we'll take your workd for it. Why do you think the EC is good then? Post reasons.

it helps make sure a few big states do not get too much say. and it could create issues of a need for nation wide recounts--which is not a good idea...they are messy enough as they are now.

See you see the 00 and 16 elections as reasons to get rid of it... but NO they are WHY we have it and why we need to keep it. I am sorry you side lost... but if it was the other way around would you want it to be amended?

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Reply #91 posted 07/17/17 1:45pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

herb4 said:

Riggghhhhhtttt......Guess we'll take your workd for it. Why do you think the EC is good then? Post reasons.

it helps make sure a few big states do not get too much say. and it could create issues of a need for nation wide recounts--which is not a good idea...they are messy enough as they are now.

See you see the 00 and 16 elections as reasons to get rid of it... but NO they are WHY we have it and why we need to keep it. I am sorry you side lost... but if it was the other way around would you want it to be amended?

Absolutely. One vote per person is the only way to decide a majority fairly. flag

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Reply #92 posted 07/17/17 2:07pm

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poppys said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:




herb4 said:




Riggghhhhhtttt.....Guess we'll take your workd for it. Why do you think the EC is good then? Post reasons.





it helps make sure a few big states do not get too much say. and it could create issues of a need for nation wide recounts--which is not a good idea...they are messy enough as they are now.

See you see the 00 and 16 elections as reasons to get rid of it... but NO they are WHY we have it and why we need to keep it. I am sorry you side lost... but if it was the other way around would you want it to be amended?



Absolutely. One vote per person is the only way to decide a majority fairly. flag



My point exactly
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Reply #93 posted 07/17/17 2:15pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



herb4 said:




OnlyNDaUsa said:





i would be ticked that my person lost but i would not be calling to change it...




Riggghhhhhtttt.....Guess we'll take your workd for it. Why do you think the EC is good then? Post reasons.





it helps make sure a few big states do not get too much say. and it could create issues of a need for nation wide recounts--which is not a good idea...they are messy enough as they are now.

See you see the 00 and 16 elections as reasons to get rid of it... but NO they are WHY we have it and why we need to keep it. I am sorry you side lost... but if it was the other way around would you want it to be amended?



But the system then gives LITTLE states "too much say". Why shouldn't the majority rule (which means each candidate would have to try to appeal to a broader swath of the electorate). And whoever has the most votes should win. I wasn't a fan of Reagan, but in 1980 and 1984 more voters chose him, which I cannot dispute.
[Edited 7/17/17 14:20pm]
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Reply #94 posted 07/17/17 2:18pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

herb4 said:


OK. Post why you think this was all great here:


http://prince.org/msg/105/444913

Y
ou're long on posts, ONLYINDAUSA and short on substance, as usual. Never change, dude.

I remain, as usual, genuinely curious and mostly open to arguing in good faith (though I admit my "bias" up front) but for starters it might be useful if you post more than one sentence at a time and actually articulate thoughts and ideas for a bit. I know, I know...Twitter and 44 characters or less and shit...short attention span theater...but come on over here and bullet point me to death.

I'm hungry and need something to chew on. Can you do it? Feed me.



no thanks on that topic... (it did that Ginuwine's opinion of Prince glitch)

you may not grasp or agree with what I say but I say what I say and I do keep it simple...

and no you can not chew on me... so Relax!

VERY simple. Too simple in fact. You offer nothing but white noise, platitudes and talking points. But you post of lot of meaningless, vaccuous very short sentences. Reminds me of someone famous and in power but I can't put my finger on it.

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Reply #95 posted 07/17/17 2:19pm

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jjhunsecker said:

poppys said:

Absolutely. One vote per person is the only way to decide a majority fairly. flag

My point exactly

then push for an amendment

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Reply #96 posted 07/17/17 2:21pm

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herb4 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:



no thanks on that topic... (it did that Ginuwine's opinion of Prince glitch)

you may not grasp or agree with what I say but I say what I say and I do keep it simple...

and no you can not chew on me... so Relax!

VERY simple. Too simple in fact. You offer nothing but white noise, platitudes and talking points.

that is a lie false statment....


But you post of lot of meaningless, vaccuous very short sentences.

I speak to my audance...it is sad that you MUST resort to what is in your mind an insult...the irony is you do not understand them so that says what?


Reminds me of someone famous and in power but I can't put my finger on it.


brack?

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Reply #97 posted 07/17/17 2:28pm

poppys

OnlyNDaUsa said:

jjhunsecker said:

poppys said: My point exactly

then push for an amendment

What makes you think I'm not?

Dissembling now with name puns. Out of material. It "Only" gets worse from here.

[Edited 7/17/17 14:32pm]

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Reply #98 posted 07/17/17 2:42pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: You DO read and listen to the news, right? I mean more than one source...

i do and i see a whole lot of nothing burgers that are not a basis for impeachment...


No, not really. They have him dead to rights and the entire administration tangled in a web of their own fucking lies. The omission of meetings on their disclosure forms alone should be enough to remove half the cabinets' security clearance, but here's the thing. Again.

The law is only as concrete, solid and as good as the people who enforce it and works under the inherent assumption that they operate within the integrity of it. I don't see any of that in this administration or anywhere in the GOP except maybe for Susan Collins, but I hve heard that John McCain and Lindsay Graham have "serious concerns".

*both vote in lockstep with the GOP*

Cracks me up that people like you say this is a "nothing burger" (you should banned for that tired meme alone) and a partisan witch hunt when Mueller and Comey are fucking Republicans and appointed by Republican administrations. Maybe we can get to the bottom of Benghazi and drag out the birth certificate if the pot gets too hot.

Where and when do the list of excuses, strawmen, blatant contradictions and scapegoats end? Answer: they won't. They're guity and they're going to get away with it because we are living on the threshold of a full on, straight up theocratic fascist government. The real theocratic part will come in time as we ramp up our war on Muslims and once Trump has outlived his usefullness and cedes power to the genuiinely scary True Believers.

The very next thing you ever post on these forums, and I suspect likely anywhere, of any real substance or worthy of consideration beyond "heh...hehe...fuck you libtards. Fuck Hillary....Lock her up!" will be the first. You've been posting here a long time and have never offered one single thing in support of your stance and ideology. I mean like ever. At least nothing I've read.

As trolls go, you're pretty good at provocation and have a sort of economical drive by style that would make Sean Hannity proud but, like him and his ilk, you refuse to engage on an intellectually honest level (or any level really) and consistently expose the lack of content in your character as well as the courage of your convictions. I might be a sad, pessimistic, cynical liberal grouch with too much time on my hands, posting on a mostly dead message board that no one reads, but at least I'm not an empty vessel who can't logically explain myself and the reasons for thinking the way I do.

Or the way I've come to view people like you in fact. You offer nothing to any conversation you engage in besides being edgy and contrarian simply for the sake of it.

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Reply #99 posted 07/17/17 2:43pm

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poppys said:

jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: You DO read and listen to the news, right? I mean more than one source...

He does not read anything anyone posts here. He has said so.


Which pretty much explains everything. I doubt he reads much at all.

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Reply #100 posted 07/17/17 2:45pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

herb4 said:


OK. Post why you think this was all great here:


http://prince.org/msg/105/444913

Y
ou're long on posts, ONLYINDAUSA and short on substance, as usual. Never change, dude.

I remain, as usual, genuinely curious and mostly open to arguing in good faith (though I admit my "bias" up front) but for starters it might be useful if you post more than one sentence at a time and actually articulate thoughts and ideas for a bit. I know, I know...Twitter and 44 characters or less and shit...short attention span theater...but come on over here and bullet point me to death.

I'm hungry and need something to chew on. Can you do it? Feed me.



no thanks on that topic... (it did that Ginuwine's opinion of Prince glitch)

you may not grasp or agree with what I say but I say what I say and I do keep it simple...

and no you can not chew on me... so Relax!


Not an option. Post anything, Opinions or facts. Otherwise, fuck off.

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Reply #101 posted 07/17/17 3:15pm

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Musicslave said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

i do and i see a whole lot of nothing burgers that are not a basis for impeachment...

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You can't say there's nothing there until Mueller finishes his investigation.

He never really says anything anyway. Unless someone can point me towards a substantive post he may have accidentally made. I've never read one anyway.

I shoot off my big dumb mouth a lot but at least there's meaning, analyzation and thought behind it, whether one agrees or disagrees. I don't post things from my phone while waiting at a red light, only sparing a moment to simply bask in the tears of some imaginary enemy I've concocted in my head while watching FOX News or absorbing the tenets of Rush Limbaugh on my lunch break.

Which as far as I can tell is all OIDUSA has to offer anyone. Beyond being a simple foil anyway.

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Reply #102 posted 07/17/17 3:35pm

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poppys said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

then push for an amendment

What makes you think I'm not?

Dissembling now with name puns. Out of material. It "Only" gets worse from here.

[Edited 7/17/17 14:32pm]

your puns are poppy

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Reply #103 posted 07/17/17 3:36pm

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herb4 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:



no thanks on that topic... (it did that Ginuwine's opinion of Prince glitch)

you may not grasp or agree with what I say but I say what I say and I do keep it simple...

and no you can not chew on me... so Relax!


Not an option. Post anything, Opinions or facts. Otherwise, fuck off.

how friendly but i forgive you...

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
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Reply #104 posted 07/17/17 4:09pm

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jjhunsecker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

it helps make sure a few big states do not get too much say. and it could create issues of a need for nation wide recounts--which is not a good idea...they are messy enough as they are now.

See you see the 00 and 16 elections as reasons to get rid of it... but NO they are WHY we have it and why we need to keep it. I am sorry you side lost... but if it was the other way around would you want it to be amended?

But the system then gives LITTLE states "too much say". Why shouldn't the majority rule (which means each candidate would have to try to appeal to a broader swath of the electorate). And whoever has the most votes should win. I wasn't a fan of Reagan, but in 1980 and 1984 more voters chose him, which I cannot dispute. [Edited 7/17/17 14:20pm]

Well, for one thing, if it was a simple case of "majority rule", a hell of a lot of awful, heinous, horrible legislation would get passed. The Civil Rights act wouldn't have made it. Sufferage wouldn't have ended. Same sex marriage wouldn't have been enacted, etc. etc. And OnlyinUsa is right in the sense that we don't live in a true democracy, but a Republic, but he's lying in the sense that he "wouldn't have a problem with it" if Gore or Hillary had won in reverse crcumstances and certainly being disingenous smugly stating that "my side lost".

He doesn't sound sorry at all. In fact, he sounds rather happy about it but stubbornly refuses to tell us WHY, which is really the crux of the matter when you engage in debate on a public message board, but not for conservative republicans. I can rattle off 10-20 reasons off the top of my head why I vote Democrat and why I find Republicans and their policies regressive and abhorrent. Doesn't even really take take that much time. No Republican on this board will tell me why they vote for this garbage and actually like this shit excpet for the fact that it tends to upset people like me. Or journalists.

NONE. Not ONE. I started a whole thread for it. Crickets so far. Cowards with no compassion and certainly no conviction beyond punishing the "lesser" amongst us is what they are and, thankfully, they're at least being exposed every day. Sad thing is there are FAR FAR many more of them than I ever dreamed possible and they no longer feel the need to hide behind the masks they're used to wearing in order to function in a civilized society. Especially on a message board devoted to a free thinking, cross dressing, effeminate, short black male in high heels and make up that sang about love, sex and "uptown" all the time. Amazing to witness and not in a good way. I saw it coming but remain singularly astonished at the speed with which it's taken hold of people who should rightfully know better by now after decades of being totally exploited. They're straight up telling us, to our face, "fuck you. I'm rich. You're not. WE write the rules. Go die in the street if you get sick or get shot by the cops if you dare question us". Right to our fucking faces. Every mother fucking day.

The assholes, sadly, have really really won this time (I sadly suspect permanantly) and, worse, no longer feel that they have to explain themselves nor be held accountable to anyone, least of all the law or people as petty as insignificant and as underpaid as the free press or (god forbid) the working class who truly drive the fucking economy. Own it, fascists and authoritarians. Admit what you are. I'm getting tired of you pricks telling me you don't have the time to engage and your tired, empty platitudes about how we're all "free" and "if we don't like it, suck it, go somewhere else."

Just own it and admit that you have nothing worth living for beyond the lament, grievances and tears of the less fortunate and having more than the next guy. You have nothing to offer, nothing to say and only justify your existence by counting money. Then let's put it to a vote and see what America is all about, which, regrettably we apparently we just did: So, yeah, let's just skip ahead and go straight to straight to the fall of Rome.

There's nothing unique or special about the United States of America and we can fall just as easily as the empires that came before us. We're falling right now. Like REAL REAL hard falling. Our culture has stolen everything we've ever offered the world and has crushed everyone who got in our way or tried to tell us otherwise. We're built on unpaid labor, generational wealth and indentured servitude, which is still happening right now. Are we better than most? Certainly some, yes, and we were better than most, at least for a for a while, but it's been sold out for a while and the tab has been called in. 95% of the people are fighting over 5% of the fucking pie. They've got us eating each other alive and fighting over 25 or 50 cent an hour raises, beleiving it will make a difference in their lives, while the people eating the whole god damned pie have nothing to offer us anymore except for building bombs, prisons, private planes, walls and drilling our coastlines for oil.

Walls.

Walls, people. In the United States of America. Walls in America. Gold plated walls with snipers manning them. People WANT that? Chant it? They think that's GOOD?!?! Think they'll feel safe once it's built? Trust me, they won't. Nobody with that mindset will ever feel free or safe.

The one single thing I can get conceivably get behind Trump on, if he's serious about it (and since nobody else has the balls to opine why this is gonna Make America Great Again beyond some stupid hat made in China and pissing off the media by being an asshole), would be infrastructure investment. Except I'm afraid that "infrastructure investment" equals "building more walls".

Christ. Sorry about that. So much on my mind.


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Reply #105 posted 07/17/17 4:21pm

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[Implying or suggesting the demise of a political figure is not a good thing. Please refrain from posting such things snip - luv4u]

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Reply #106 posted 07/17/17 4:27pm

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214 said:

[Implying or suggesting the demise of a political figure is not a good thing. Please refrain from posting such things snip - luv4u]


Careful with that sort of talk. And, no, that would be a bad thing. Stop that.

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Reply #107 posted 07/17/17 4:38pm

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herb4 said:

214 said:

[Implying or suggesting the demise of a political figure is not a good thing. Please refrain from posting such things snip - luv4u]


Careful with that sort of talk. And, no, that would be a bad thing. Stop that.

Why? i'm not saying i will do it nor encouragin anyone to do it. But yes, it's a little over the top. What do you think, is he a bad man or is just a very stupid one?

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Reply #108 posted 07/17/17 4:44pm

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I stopped thinking about it. It's really depressing if you see the long list of all who would succeed the Orange One.
Even Ben Carson is down on that list. The Right Wing has built a wall of crazy that is mind boggling. Someone described it as us living in the darkest dark comedy the Cohen brothers could ever dream up.
It's depressing. We have to wait it out. An impeachment would do nothing but be a crazy game of Wack-a-mole...

[Edited 7/17/17 16:45pm]

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Reply #109 posted 07/17/17 4:49pm

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Impeachment would weaken the plaform and public opinion. I'm all for that. Too late for the plan that makes sense.

Kick the old-school joints. For the true funk soldiers.
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Reply #110 posted 07/17/17 5:15pm

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poppys said:

Impeachment would weaken the plaform and public opinion. I'm all for that. Too late for the plan that makes sense.

Yes to some extent. But there is a midwest and elderly population that eat it all up.

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Reply #111 posted 07/17/17 5:30pm

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make America great again: Impeach Trump lol
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Reply #112 posted 07/17/17 5:33pm

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214 said:

herb4 said:


Careful with that sort of talk. And, no, that would be a bad thing. Stop that.

Why? i'm not saying i will do it nor encouragin anyone to do it. But yes, it's a little over the top. What do you think, is he a bad man or is just a very stupid one?

He's both but don't post like that for real. It doesn't help anything, is nothing to hope for and can actually get this site investigated. No joke.

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Reply #113 posted 07/17/17 5:36pm

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herb4 said:

214 said:

Why? i'm not saying i will do it nor encouragin anyone to do it. But yes, it's a little over the top. What do you think, is he a bad man or is just a very stupid one?

He's both but don't post like that for real. It doesn't help anything, is nothing to hope for and can actually get this site investigated. No joke.

Agreed. Cut that shit out.


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Reply #114 posted 07/17/17 7:30pm

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herb4 said:

214 said:

Why? i'm not saying i will do it nor encouragin anyone to do it. But yes, it's a little over the top. What do you think, is he a bad man or is just a very stupid one?

He's both but don't post like that for real. It doesn't help anything, is nothing to hope for and can actually get this site investigated. No joke.


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Reply #115 posted 07/17/17 10:06pm

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herb4 said:



poppys said:




jjhunsecker said:


OnlyNDaUsa said: You DO read and listen to the news, right? I mean more than one source...

He does not read anything anyone posts here. He has said so.




Which pretty much explains everything. I doubt he reads much at all.



That explains a lot
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Reply #116 posted 07/18/17 3:39pm

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214 said:

Why? i'm not saying i will do it nor encouragin anyone to do it. But yes, it's a little over the top. What do you think, is he a bad man or is just a very stupid one?

He's both but don't post like that for real. It doesn't help anything, is nothing to hope for and can actually get this site investigated. No joke.

I will be writing from jail then. lol i won't say that again i promise.

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Reply #117 posted 07/18/17 3:57pm

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214, don't fall for that stereotype. Viva Fidel.

"2freaky is a complete stud." DJ
"2freaky is very down." 2Elijah.
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Reply #118 posted 07/18/17 4:55pm

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214, don't fall for that stereotype. Viva Fidel.

Viva Peña Nieto. What stereotype?

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Reply #119 posted 07/23/17 3:46pm

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With his approval record at the lowest in modern recorded history, there is doubt it will go up anytime soon. Making an impeachment more and more likely if continues to be the habitual doofus President.

Politico has an article on his approval record.

Trump’s approval: How low can he go?

By and | 07/23/17 07:00 AM EDT



http://www.politico.com/i...can-he-go/

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