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Thread started 05/16/17 7:09am

djThunderfunk

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The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended

Or not...

Antifa scumbags attack a man peacefully holding a sign that says "The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended" and call him a nazi.

Stupidity like this is why the "nazi" label doesn't work anymore. Just sayin'...





[Edited 5/16/17 7:10am]

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Reply #1 posted 05/16/17 9:26am

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the ones yelling him down are acting much more in line with fascism than the man is... way more...

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Reply #2 posted 05/16/17 9:31am

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AntifA. nOT AGAIN. LOL

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Reply #3 posted 05/16/17 9:33am

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DJ, this is not a major issue. You do need to move on.

Ben Sasse was on Morning Joe today and him and Joe got into an interesting conversation about how video games are turning men into man babies. So true.

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Reply #4 posted 05/16/17 9:36am

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djThunderfunk said:

Or not...

Antifa scumbags attack a man peacefully holding a sign that says "The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended" and call him a nazi.

Stupidity like this is why the "nazi" label doesn't work anymore. Just sayin'...





[Edited 5/16/17 7:10am]

I don't know what's going on here and I'm not going to bother to find out. I don't like bullying and intimidation of any kind. But surely a bit of context is needed, right? They are not calling him a nazi for 'peacefully holding a sign'. Either provide the context or don't provide the link, your story is not complete.

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Reply #5 posted 05/16/17 9:37am

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2freaky4church1 said:

DJ, this is not a major issue. You do need to move on.

Ben Sasse was on Morning Joe today and him and Joe got into an interesting conversation about how video games are turning men into man babies. So true.

what does that have to do with Antifa types that can not stand that someone ELSE might hear an opinion they do not like and are compelled to result to violence to try and stop the free exchange of ideas?

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Reply #6 posted 05/16/17 9:38am

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Because Antifa is made up.

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Reply #7 posted 05/16/17 9:41am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Because Antifa is made up.

I am not sure that is a rational belief.

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Reply #8 posted 05/16/17 9:48am

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SomeSoldier said:

djThunderfunk said:

Or not...

Antifa scumbags attack a man peacefully holding a sign that says "The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended" and call him a nazi.

Stupidity like this is why the "nazi" label doesn't work anymore. Just sayin'...





[Edited 5/16/17 7:10am]

I don't know what's going on here and I'm not going to bother to find out. I don't like bullying and intimidation of any kind. But surely a bit of context is needed, right? They are not calling him a nazi for 'peacefully holding a sign'. Either provide the context or don't provide the link, your story is not complete.

wait so which is it? you a) do not know and do not care enough to find out or b) that you assume he must have done something else and you want to know more?

we simply do not know the context. now some suggest that Antifa is not even a thing... but if not are all these events staged or are they all just spontaneous or some other group(s) that happen to use very similar methods (violence and intimidation) to get their way?

So all we have is this clip of a man who in the clip is doing nothing but holding a sign supporting free speech and the free exchange of ideas without being bullied or harassed or threatened.

I find that to be a very difficult platform to defend and not something that would be tolerated if it was the other way around.

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Reply #9 posted 05/16/17 9:56am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

SomeSoldier said:

I don't know what's going on here and I'm not going to bother to find out. I don't like bullying and intimidation of any kind. But surely a bit of context is needed, right? They are not calling him a nazi for 'peacefully holding a sign'. Either provide the context or don't provide the link, your story is not complete.

wait so which is it? you a) do not know and do not care enough to find out or b) that you assume he must have done something else and you want to know more?

we simply do not know the context. now some suggest that Antifa is not even a thing... but if not are all these events staged or are they all just spontaneous or some other group(s) that happen to use very similar methods (violence and intimidation) to get their way?

So all we have is this clip of a man who in the clip is doing nothing but holding a sign supporting free speech and the free exchange of ideas without being bullied or harassed or threatened.

I find that to be a very difficult platform to defend and not something that would be tolerated if it was the other way around.

Or c) dj was being disingenious when he deliberately create a thread with vital information missing on it. The women in the video are calling him homophobic and white supremacist. They are not calling him that because he's there holding a sign. Whether he is guilty of that or not, I couldn't care less, but he is not being shouted at for holding a sign.

So when you later on you say' that we don't know the context you are for once right. And Dj very deliberately decided to ignore that when he wrote 'Antifa scumbags attack a man peacefully holding a sign that says "The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended" and call him a nazi'.

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Reply #10 posted 05/16/17 10:00am

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SomeSoldier said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

wait so which is it? you a) do not know and do not care enough to find out or b) that you assume he must have done something else and you want to know more?

we simply do not know the context. now some suggest that Antifa is not even a thing... but if not are all these events staged or are they all just spontaneous or some other group(s) that happen to use very similar methods (violence and intimidation) to get their way?

So all we have is this clip of a man who in the clip is doing nothing but holding a sign supporting free speech and the free exchange of ideas without being bullied or harassed or threatened.

I find that to be a very difficult platform to defend and not something that would be tolerated if it was the other way around.

Or c) dj was being disingenious when he deliberately create a thread with vital information missing on it. The women in the video are calling him homophobic and white supremacist. They are not calling him that because he's there holding a sign. Whether he is guilty of that or not, I couldn't care less, but he is not being shouted at for holding a sign.

So when you later on you say' that we don't know the context you are for once right. And Dj very deliberately decided to ignore that when he wrote 'Antifa scumbags attack a man peacefully holding a sign that says "The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended" and call him a nazi'.

you assume. but sure maybe DJ knows more than anyone else! I saw this clip a few days ago and I have not found any evidence to support that name calling was in any way based on anything he had done. To me it seems they simply assume or have made up to be incitful all the accucatons against him. And even if he was saying some stuff is that, in your mind, a justifcation of how he was treated?

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Reply #11 posted 05/16/17 10:04am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

SomeSoldier said:

Or c) dj was being disingenious when he deliberately create a thread with vital information missing on it. The women in the video are calling him homophobic and white supremacist. They are not calling him that because he's there holding a sign. Whether he is guilty of that or not, I couldn't care less, but he is not being shouted at for holding a sign.

So when you later on you say' that we don't know the context you are for once right. And Dj very deliberately decided to ignore that when he wrote 'Antifa scumbags attack a man peacefully holding a sign that says "The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended" and call him a nazi'.

you assume. but sure maybe DJ knows more than anyone else! I saw this clip a few days ago and I have not found any evidence to support that name calling was in any way based on anything he had done. To me it seems they simply assume or have made up to be incitful all the accucatons against him. And even if he was saying some stuff is that, in your mind, a justifcation of how he was treated?

The first thing I wrote is that I don't approve of intimidation in any way. But there is a story behind that video that we don't know. Feel free (and I extend my invitation to DJ as well) to share the information that you've found about the video and if it is conclusive I will apologise and eat my words.

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Reply #12 posted 05/16/17 10:08am

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SomeSoldier said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

you assume. but sure maybe DJ knows more than anyone else! I saw this clip a few days ago and I have not found any evidence to support that name calling was in any way based on anything he had done. To me it seems they simply assume or have made up to be incitful all the accucatons against him. And even if he was saying some stuff is that, in your mind, a justifcation of how he was treated?

The first thing I wrote is that I don't approve of intimidation in any way. But there is a story behind that video that we don't know. Feel free (and I extend my invitation to DJ as well) to share the information that you've found about the video and if it is conclusive I will apologise and eat my words.

you assume there is a back story... you seem to assume the guy did something to get this attention.

And there may be NO info. if you assume there is or must be and there is none.... what then?

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Reply #13 posted 05/16/17 10:18am

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Godwin's Law.

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Reply #14 posted 05/16/17 10:21am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

SomeSoldier said:

The first thing I wrote is that I don't approve of intimidation in any way. But there is a story behind that video that we don't know. Feel free (and I extend my invitation to DJ as well) to share the information that you've found about the video and if it is conclusive I will apologise and eat my words.

you assume there is a back story... you seem to assume the guy did something to get this attention.

And there may be NO info. if you assume there is or must be and there is none.... what then?

The guy would not have got that attention if there wasn't.

I just had a read through the comments to the video on youtube. Every other comment calls these Antifa guys antifaggots. Which kind of links with the accusations of homophobia to the fella on the video. But you're telling me that this is all a coincidence and that maybe there is nothing behind the story. Thay the guy just woke up one day and said 'Oooh, I know what I'm going to do, I'm going to go out to defend freedom of speech', and as soon as he did a bunch of derranged people started calling him nazi scum. And and the video ends up on a youtube channel with several other videos on the same line? Not a chance, my friend. Not a chance

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Reply #15 posted 05/16/17 10:35am

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2freaky4church1 said:

DJ, this is not a major issue. You do need to move on.

Ben Sasse was on Morning Joe today and him and Joe got into an interesting conversation about how video games are turning men into man babies. So true.


You're being dishonest. You think kkk types are a problem, right? Well, this is the other side of the extremist coin and antifa are waaaay more active and have much larger numbers and are showing up everywhere.

If you truly believe that it's not an issue, YOU move on and skip the discussion... Kay?

The fact that you say this is not an issue and turn around and bring up this video game thing, a true NON-ISSUE, betrays your bullshit.

It's unbelievable that you think it's a not a problem that a mob of facists who claim to be anti-fascist attack someone for a sign that says "The right to openly discuss ideas must be defended" and call him a nazi. This is an issue and shows the insanity of the extreme left is every bit as dangerous as the extreme right.


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Reply #16 posted 05/16/17 10:39am

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SomeSoldier said:

djThunderfunk said:

Or not...

Antifa scumbags attack a man peacefully holding a sign that says "The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended" and call him a nazi.

Stupidity like this is why the "nazi" label doesn't work anymore. Just sayin'...





[Edited 5/16/17 7:10am]

I don't know what's going on here and I'm not going to bother to find out. I don't like bullying and intimidation of any kind. But surely a bit of context is needed, right? They are not calling him a nazi for 'peacefully holding a sign'. Either provide the context or don't provide the link, your story is not complete.


This IS the story. Somebody recorded the incident and shared it, no "story" was given. You really need more information to see who the fascist anti-freedom bullies in this scenario are? Gimme a break.

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Reply #17 posted 05/16/17 10:40am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Because Antifa is made up.


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Reply #18 posted 05/16/17 10:50am

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SomeSoldier said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

wait so which is it? you a) do not know and do not care enough to find out or b) that you assume he must have done something else and you want to know more?

we simply do not know the context. now some suggest that Antifa is not even a thing... but if not are all these events staged or are they all just spontaneous or some other group(s) that happen to use very similar methods (violence and intimidation) to get their way?

So all we have is this clip of a man who in the clip is doing nothing but holding a sign supporting free speech and the free exchange of ideas without being bullied or harassed or threatened.

I find that to be a very difficult platform to defend and not something that would be tolerated if it was the other way around.

Or c) dj was being disingenious when he deliberately create a thread with vital information missing on it. The women in the video are calling him homophobic and white supremacist. They are not calling him that because he's there holding a sign. Whether he is guilty of that or not, I couldn't care less, but he is not being shouted at for holding a sign.

So when you later on you say' that we don't know the context you are for once right. And Dj very deliberately decided to ignore that when he wrote 'Antifa scumbags attack a man peacefully holding a sign that says "The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended" and call him a nazi'.


You must not be aware that you can click the Youtube link in the video and go directly to the source. Do so and you will see that I left NOTHING out. It's not sourced from "a story", it's simply a youtube video of something that happened. Don't accuse me of trying to be provocative and trick people, I did not deliberately leave anything out. You are making baseless accusations against me.

Furthermore, if you take the time to watch any of the MANY antifa videos on youtube (that 2freaky claims don't exist) you will learn that they ARE calling him these things because of this sign. Antifa's position is that arguments FOR freedom of speech are code for arguments for providing a platform for so called "hate speech". That's their M.O.

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Reply #19 posted 05/16/17 10:52am

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SomeSoldier said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

you assume. but sure maybe DJ knows more than anyone else! I saw this clip a few days ago and I have not found any evidence to support that name calling was in any way based on anything he had done. To me it seems they simply assume or have made up to be incitful all the accucatons against him. And even if he was saying some stuff is that, in your mind, a justifcation of how he was treated?

The first thing I wrote is that I don't approve of intimidation in any way. But there is a story behind that video that we don't know. Feel free (and I extend my invitation to DJ as well) to share the information that you've found about the video and if it is conclusive I will apologise and eat my words.


Everything I know about this story is in my O.P. Take your own advice, find some information that proves I'm purposefully leaving something out or go ahead and eat your words.

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Reply #20 posted 05/16/17 10:54am

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SomeSoldier said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

you assume there is a back story... you seem to assume the guy did something to get this attention.

And there may be NO info. if you assume there is or must be and there is none.... what then?

The guy would not have got that attention if there wasn't.

I just had a read through the comments to the video on youtube. Every other comment calls these Antifa guys antifaggots. Which kind of links with the accusations of homophobia to the fella on the video. But you're telling me that this is all a coincidence and that maybe there is nothing behind the story. Thay the guy just woke up one day and said 'Oooh, I know what I'm going to do, I'm going to go out to defend freedom of speech', and as soon as he did a bunch of derranged people started calling him nazi scum. And and the video ends up on a youtube channel with several other videos on the same line? Not a chance, my friend. Not a chance


You obviously know NOTHING about antifa. Probably believe, like 2freaky, that they don't exist.

OR, you are being dishonest as much of the left is and pretending these extremists lefties aren't a problem because you secretly support them.

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SomeSoldier said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

you assume there is a back story... you seem to assume the guy did something to get this attention.

And there may be NO info. if you assume there is or must be and there is none.... what then?

The guy would not have got that attention if there wasn't.

that is a dangerous assumption to hold


I just had a read through the comments to the video on youtube. Every other comment calls these Antifa guys antifaggots. Which kind of links with the accusations of homophobia to the fella on the video. But you're telling me that this is all a coincidence and that maybe there is nothing behind the story.

not what I said. i am not the one making assumptions or victim blaming,


Thay the guy just woke up one day and said 'Oooh, I know what I'm going to do, I'm going to go out to defend freedom of speech', and as soon as he did a bunch of derranged people started calling him nazi scum.

not what I suggested. maybe he heard they were going to be there and that was his counter protest.


And and the video ends up on a youtube channel with several other videos on the same line? Not a chance, my friend.

so what?


Not a chance


another dangerous assumption and i doubt that is a standard hold consistently

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Reply #22 posted 05/16/17 12:45pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

the ones yelling him down are acting much more in line with fascism than the man is... way more...


Fo sho.

And did you see who was forcibly trying to take the guy's sign away at the end of the video?


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Fox calls a kid with Autism a snowflake:

http://www.huffingtonpost...mg00000009

Tammy apologized. Dumb bitch.

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Reply #24 posted 05/16/17 6:02pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Fox calls a kid with Autism a snowflake:

http://www.huffingtonpost...mg00000009

Tammy apologized. Dumb bitch.


Since you don't believe antifa exists, I've invited you to skip the topic.
It's rude to try to change the topic.


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Lions and tigers and antifa, OH MY!!!

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Calls him racist and homophobic then calls him out the color of his skin, ironic. This video is about a man with a sign which reads something people do on the org everyday, and getting accosted by entitled bullies telling him to leave the area. I'm sorry am calling this out who is the facist? Oh yes the white man he must be evil he is white. The only gender and race your allowed to talk down and diss. Living underground will be my only option soon how dare i be born white and male. sad

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Reply #27 posted 05/17/17 6:25am

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Guitarhero said:

Calls him racist and homophobic then calls him out the color of his skin, ironic. This video is about a man with a sign which reads something people do on the org everyday, and getting accosted by entitled bullies telling him to leave the area. I'm sorry am calling this out who is the facist? Oh yes the white man he must be evil he is white. The only gender and race your allowed to talk down and diss. Living underground will be my only option soon how dare i be born white and male. sad

Nazi's have no right to discuss anything, period. Fuck Nazis. Poor little snowflakes that nobody listens to, WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH.

Matthew 5:38-39
“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
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Reply #28 posted 05/17/17 6:33am

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13cjk13 said:

Guitarhero said:

Calls him racist and homophobic then calls him out the color of his skin, ironic. This video is about a man with a sign which reads something people do on the org everyday, and getting accosted by entitled bullies telling him to leave the area. I'm sorry am calling this out who is the facist? Oh yes the white man he must be evil he is white. The only gender and race your allowed to talk down and diss. Living underground will be my only option soon how dare i be born white and male. sad

Nazi's have no right to discuss anything, period. Fuck Nazis. Poor little snowflakes that nobody listens to, WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH.


Having a sign that says "The right to openly discuss ideas must be defended" does not make one a "nazi". Because the "poor little snowflakes" insist that everyone that disagrees with them is a "nazi", that label no longer has the power it once did.

I see no evidence of any nazis in the video but I do see a whole bunch of facists that think they are antifacists. How ironic, sick and sad for all of us.

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Reply #29 posted 05/17/17 6:39am

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13cjk13 said:

Guitarhero said:

Calls him racist and homophobic then calls him out the color of his skin, ironic. This video is about a man with a sign which reads something people do on the org everyday, and getting accosted by entitled bullies telling him to leave the area. I'm sorry am calling this out who is the facist? Oh yes the white man he must be evil he is white. The only gender and race your allowed to talk down and diss. Living underground will be my only option soon how dare i be born white and male. sad

Nazi's have no right to discuss anything, period. Fuck Nazis. Poor little snowflakes that nobody listens to, WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH.

sure they do. are you SURE you want to set a political standard for who is or who is not allowed to speak?

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