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Thread started 05/13/17 11:11am

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Bill Maher nails it. Smart phones are the new nicotine.

Bill understands the danger of us becomging a nation of zombies:

Capitalism has always been about promoting addiction. Buy more, think less.

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Reply #1 posted 05/13/17 11:20am

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This hack just took the study finding Facebook more addictive than cigs.

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Reply #2 posted 05/13/17 11:20am

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What hack?

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Reply #3 posted 05/13/17 4:24pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Bill understands the danger of us becomging a nation of zombies:

Capitalism has always been about promoting addiction. Buy more, think less.


He's right.

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Reply #4 posted 05/13/17 4:51pm

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As one of the few left who don't even own a cell phone, much less a smart phone, I'm constantly encountering people that don't understand how I could possibly live without one.

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Reply #5 posted 05/13/17 4:51pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Bill understands the danger of us becomging a nation of zombies:

Capitalism has always been about promoting addiction. Buy more, think less.

He hit on something there.

"When you have people who don't know about science standing in denial of it and rising to power - that is a recipe for the complete dismantling of our informed democracy" - Neil de Grasse Tyson
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Reply #6 posted 05/14/17 12:13am

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Yeah. This is one reason you have to laugh at libertarians. They talk about government as the enemy of freedom yet they ignore the fact that corporations invest billions in manipulating and controlling the public. The population in many ways is brainwashed. Ironically, Bill Maher himself is one of the brainwashers.

It would be great if technology could be designed in a different way to promote different goals. It could hypothetically bring out the best in us, but the designers have their own interests, just like drug dealers do.

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Reply #7 posted 05/14/17 5:29am

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2freaky4church1 said:

What hack?



Bill just took an article about a recent study about how addictive Facebook is and spiced it up. Most of this was not his views he just added a few wise cracks. Hack!
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Reply #8 posted 05/14/17 5:38am

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djThunderfunk said:

As one of the few left who don't even own a cell phone, much less a smart phone, I'm constantly encountering people that don't understand how I could possibly live without one.


Prince didn't own a cell phone either.

So what do you do if you're out and about, and need to make a call?

Do you have a car? If so, what do you do if you break down in the middle of nowhere?

It's not like there's payphones anymore. lol

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Reply #9 posted 05/14/17 6:48am

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Pokeno4Money said:

djThunderfunk said:

As one of the few left who don't even own a cell phone, much less a smart phone, I'm constantly encountering people that don't understand how I could possibly live without one.


Prince didn't own a cell phone either.

So what do you do if you're out and about, and need to make a call?

Do you have a car? If so, what do you do if you break down in the middle of nowhere?

It's not like there's payphones anymore. lol


Everybody brings up the "what if the car breaks down" question. Well, I've been driving since '86 and we didn't have cell phones back then. Sure we used to have payphones, but, not "in the middle of nowhere".

Fact is, used to be when you broke down you had to hike to the nearest payphone. Now, you just look for the nearest person.... they'll have a phone. Most will let somebody who's car broke down borrow it. And really, how often does that happen? Not often enough to pay a monthly bill and carry a phone with me everywhere I go.

The wife and parents keep threatening to get me one, till I tell them that I will never pay the bill and I'll keep it turned off and in my glove compartment, waiting for that day way in the future when I break down (and hope the breakdown isn't a dead battery because the phone battery will not have a charge by then). They get mad and say "what's the point then", I say "exactly", and that's the end of it (till next time the subject comes up).

I live just fine without one. Occasionally I'm in a situation where even I see the usefullness of carrying a phone. If ANYBODY is with me, I don't need to because they'll have one. If I'm going to be alone my wife will let me take hers. Those situations are super rare, maybe once or twice a year, not enough to get my own.

I challenge everyone to take some time off, away from their phone. It might be hard at first (as with any addiction) but over time you'll find that it is quite possible to do without.


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Reply #10 posted 05/14/17 7:04am

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My nephew is 11 and mad that he's the only kid in school that doesn't have a smart phone. Since a phone can be used to access porn and any other "adults only" content I continue to encourage his parents to not let him have one. I think it's insane to give kids unfettered access to everything. Anybody who believes their teenage son isn't looking at porn on their phone is naive...

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Reply #11 posted 05/14/17 7:49am

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ok and his point is what? That many people like social media? Or is he hinting at some kind of regulation? If we are going to rant that it is addictive as nicotine then they MUST be pushing for something?

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Reply #12 posted 05/14/17 7:53am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

ok and his point is what? That many people like social media? Or is he hinting at some kind of regulation? If we are going to rant that it is addictive as nicotine then they MUST be pushing for something?


Unbunch your panties, NOBODY is pushing for ANY regulation.

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Reply #13 posted 05/14/17 7:57am

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Not only are smart phones addictive, they also support slavery...

http://www.huffingtonpost...00262.html


People suffer and die so we can tweet.

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Reply #14 posted 05/14/17 7:57am

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djThunderfunk said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

ok and his point is what? That many people like social media? Or is he hinting at some kind of regulation? If we are going to rant that it is addictive as nicotine then they MUST be pushing for something?


Unbunch your panties, NOBODY is pushing for ANY regulation.

then what was his point? I do not accept that someone would rant about how it is made to keep people on them and go off that people are getting run over and hurt when looking at their phones.

And we already have regulations! Many states have or are considering restrictions on phone use.

There have been reports of cities banning walking and texting...

We will see more and more restrictions and laws and whatnot passed

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Reply #15 posted 05/14/17 7:59am

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Someone is missng the point. neutral

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Reply #16 posted 05/14/17 8:07am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

Someone is missng the point. neutral

or maybe you are not seeing the signs. it is funny... that you and DJ seem to think he said all that and is not thinking that something should be done.

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Reply #17 posted 05/14/17 8:09am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

djThunderfunk said:


Unbunch your panties, NOBODY is pushing for ANY regulation.

then what was his point? I do not accept that someone would rant about how it is made to keep people on them and go off that people are getting run over and hurt when looking at their phones.

And we already have regulations! Many states have or are considering restrictions on phone use.

There have been reports of cities banning walking and texting...

We will see more and more restrictions and laws and whatnot passed


Apples and oranges. Safety regulations are not designed to restrict access.

Most do have the regulation of using while driving, but, that's about driving safe, not about restricting access.

If people are walking into traffic while texting, they similarly endanger others (mostly themselves but if they cause an accident others will also be affected). These regulations you speak of are safety measures, NOT designed to restrict your use or address addiction, which is what this topic is about.

If you can't get your eyes off your phone to the point you are endangering others you can refrain from driving and stay out of other peoples way and no one will stop you.


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Reply #18 posted 05/14/17 8:12am

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djThunderfunk said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

then what was his point? I do not accept that someone would rant about how it is made to keep people on them and go off that people are getting run over and hurt when looking at their phones.

And we already have regulations! Many states have or are considering restrictions on phone use.

There have been reports of cities banning walking and texting...

We will see more and more restrictions and laws and whatnot passed


Apples and oranges. Safety regulations are not designed to restrict access.

Most do have the regulation of using while driving, but, that's about driving safe, not about restricting access.

If people are walking into traffic while texting, they similarly endanger others (mostly themselves but if they cause an accident others will also be affected). These regulations you speak of are safety measures, NOT designed to restrict your use or address addiction, which is what this topic is about.

If you can't get your eyes off your phone to the point you are endangering others you can refrain from driving and stay out of other peoples way and no one will stop you.


so then you agree that we need more regulations? just Like I Said!

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Reply #19 posted 05/14/17 8:14am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Someone is missng the point. neutral

or maybe you are not seeing the signs. it is funny... that you and DJ seem to think he said all that and is not thinking that something should be done.


No, it's funny that you are not addressing the topic and instead are focusing on the imagined potential of the nanny-state restricting your access to your phone.

Something should be done:

This issue should be in the public discussion and individuals who don't like being a slave to addiction should work on their self control.

As for regulations on use that effects other people, use while operating a vehicle for instance, we need more. Driving while using a phone is at least as dangerous as driving under the influence of an intoxicant, if not more so.

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Reply #20 posted 05/14/17 8:18am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

djThunderfunk said:


Apples and oranges. Safety regulations are not designed to restrict access.

Most do have the regulation of using while driving, but, that's about driving safe, not about restricting access.

If people are walking into traffic while texting, they similarly endanger others (mostly themselves but if they cause an accident others will also be affected). These regulations you speak of are safety measures, NOT designed to restrict your use or address addiction, which is what this topic is about.

If you can't get your eyes off your phone to the point you are endangering others you can refrain from driving and stay out of other peoples way and no one will stop you.


so then you agree that we need more regulations? just Like I Said!


Don't be obtuse.

The topic is about addiction to the phone. Nobody anywhere is suggesting restrictions that would curb usage. Nobody!

Regulations involving using while driving is a completely separate topic. I don't believe you're stupid enough to not understand this.

You can sit and drink alcohol all day, if you don't endanger anyone else, that's your problem.

If you drink and drive, you DO endanger others, which is why there is regulation.

Likewise, you can sit and stare at your phone all day, again, that's your problem.
If you use the phone while driving, you're endangering others, hence... regulation.

Same thing.

Everywhere that there are regulations while driving or walking will happily allow you get out of traffic and use your phone till you eyeballs fall out.



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Reply #21 posted 05/14/17 8:29am

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Image result for people on  phones

Hello wait am on my phone reading a text from the person sat next to me. lol

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Guitarhero said:

Image result for people on  phones

Hello wait am on my phone reading a text from the person sat next to me. lol


That ^ photo is sadly the new norm. Four people sitting at a table in a restaurant not looking at each othet or talking to each other - not being present.

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Reply #23 posted 05/14/17 8:46am

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djThunderfunk said:

Not only are smart phones addictive, they also support slavery...

http://www.huffingtonpost...00262.html


People suffer and die so we can tweet.

That is interesting, thanks. Then they go in the landfill leeching poison. Planned obsolescence for $$ is one of the hardest things to contemplate. What a waste of human potential and the earth.

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DiminutiveRocker said:

Guitarhero said:

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Hello wait am on my phone reading a text from the person sat next to me. lol


That ^ photo is sadly the new norm. Four people sitting at a table in a restaurant not looking at each othet or talking to each other - not being present.

Yes and let's not forget those crossing the roads on their phones oblivious to the traffic. Had a few near misses in the car myself.

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Guitarhero said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


That ^ photo is sadly the new norm. Four people sitting at a table in a restaurant not looking at each othet or talking to each other - not being present.

Yes and let's not forget those crossing the roads on their phones oblivious to the traffic. Had a few near misses in the car myself.


I know, me too. neutral

Don't get me wrong, I like my iPhone for the same reasons everyone does. I remember leaving my house for work one morning and forgetting my iPhone. I was 1/2 to work when I realized it and started to panic but I had a meeting to get to so there was no turning back. Now, I do not have a land line so most of my friends and family do not have or need my work #. Then all of a sudden I felt a sense of liberation. I was going to be unavailabe to some people for a few hours and I just accepted it. I "survived" the rest of the day without my precious. lol














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Reply #26 posted 05/14/17 12:36pm

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I love seeing DJ giving it to Only. Lovely.

Only, do you like the fact that corporate America is brainwashing us? What do you think commercials are? Look at how food companies sell us junk?

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Reply #27 posted 05/14/17 12:39pm

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"Prince didn't own a cell phone either."

Remember when he was the DJ? lol

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Reply #28 posted 05/14/17 12:56pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

I love seeing DJ giving it to Only. Lovely.

Only, do you like the fact that corporate America is brainwashing us? What do you think commercials are? Look at how food companies sell us junk?

Don't be obtuse! Ha! I do not know what you mean? giving it to me? I simply see this clip as an argument for a government to step in and save us from ourselves. Overly intrusive laws all most always start off as "for the common good."

The saying goes "Safty is the bait on the hook of Tyranny"

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Reply #29 posted 05/14/17 12:58pm

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Guitarhero said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


That ^ photo is sadly the new norm. Four people sitting at a table in a restaurant not looking at each othet or talking to each other - not being present.

Yes and let's not forget those crossing the roads on their phones oblivious to the traffic. Had a few near misses in the car myself.

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So is that a basis for government intervention?

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