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Reply #30 posted 04/15/17 10:10am

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NorthC said:

Can someone please tell me what this thread is about? Is it about the problem of female circumcision or about the supposed political correctness of the media? (Seems like some people here care more about the latter than the former.)


The intention was the former but as expected most are focusing on the latter. wink

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Reply #31 posted 04/15/17 10:14am

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NorthC said:
Can someone please tell me what this thread is about? Is it about the problem of female circumcision or about the supposed political correctness of the media? (Seems like some people here care more about the latter than the former.)
I agree- it seems more to be an attempt to attack "liberals" than anything else- like when people complain that others didn't say "radical Islamic terrorism"


You say that but every one of your own comments in this thread have focused on the PC comments rather than the problem of FGM.


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Reply #32 posted 04/15/17 10:52am

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NorthC said:

Can someone please tell me what this thread is about? Is it about the problem of female circumcision or about the supposed political correctness of the media? (Seems like some people here care more about the latter than the former.)


The intention was the former but as expected most are focusing on the latter. wink

[Edited 4/15/17 10:10am]

errrrmmmmm....... who is the one that has been focused on the latter?????? Geez, you only have to read your opening post let alone the rest of the thread.

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Reply #33 posted 04/15/17 10:57am

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jjhunsecker said:

NorthC said: I agree- it seems more to be an attempt to attack "liberals" than anything else- like when people complain that others didn't say "radical Islamic terrorism"


You say that but every one of your own comments in this thread have focused on the PC comments rather than the problem of FGM.


DJ - Almost every one of your comments has been focused on the PC comments as well BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU STATED IN THE OPENING POST ....................AAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #34 posted 04/15/17 11:05am

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djThunderfunk said:



jjhunsecker said:


NorthC said:
Can someone please tell me what this thread is about? Is it about the problem of female circumcision or about the supposed political correctness of the media? (Seems like some people here care more about the latter than the former.)

I agree- it seems more to be an attempt to attack "liberals" than anything else- like when people complain that others didn't say "radical Islamic terrorism"


You say that but every one of your own comments in this thread have focused on the PC comments rather than the problem of FGM.




I guess you missed the parts where I called this practice barbaric and horrible...go back and re-read. What is the Paul Simon lyric : "A man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest " ...
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Reply #35 posted 04/15/17 11:28am

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To the last 3 posts, yeah, in the OP I mentioned the story and PREDICTED the reaction.

All other comments I have made about the reaction have been in response to statements of OTHERS that as predicted are focused only on the PC aspect. Yes there have been a couple of comment denouncing the practice but the vast majority of comments have focused on the PC comments.

I made a post where I stated the following:


Personally, I have a classical liberal opinion of FGM.

I believe that all women have a right to keep their genitals intact. Furthermore I believe that anyone involved in mutilating children should be regarded with at least as much disdain as pedophiles and that all parties involved including doctors, parents and religious advisors should be treated with the same regard as those that aid and abett pedophilia, REGARDLESS of culture OR religion.

Am I wrong?


No one replied to that because everyone is focused on fretting about the PC issue. As I predicted.

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Reply #36 posted 04/15/17 11:35am

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Maybe if you hadn't predicted the reaction, it wouldd't have happened.
Now lemme try to get this back on track, because so far no one has mentioned the most tragic part of this story: that it was the girls parents who initiated this. And as the article said, they could face charges. And I think they should. But then again, putting the parents in prison isn't going to help the children. Poor girls. As maplenpg said, education is the answer, but it's going to be a long road...
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Reply #37 posted 04/15/17 11:38am

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djThunderfunk said:

To the last 3 posts, yeah, in the OP I mentioned the story and PREDICTED the reaction.

All other comments I have made about the reaction have been in response to statements of OTHERS that as predicted are focused only on the PC aspect. Yes there have been a couple of comment denouncing the practice but the vast majority of comments have focused on the PC comments.

I made a post where I stated the following:


Personally, I have a classical liberal opinion of FGM.

I believe that all women have a right to keep their genitals intact. Furthermore I believe that anyone involved in mutilating children should be regarded with at least as much disdain as pedophiles and that all parties involved including doctors, parents and religious advisors should be treated with the same regard as those that aid and abett pedophilia, REGARDLESS of culture OR religion.

Am I wrong?


No one replied to that because everyone is focused on fretting about the PC issue. As I predicted.



So I guess when I called this practice barbaric and horrible, that wasn't a strong ENOUGH condemnation for you?? Only exact lockstep agreement with whatever your position and comments on would suffice, I guess
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Reply #38 posted 04/15/17 11:44am

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NorthC said:

Maybe if you hadn't predicted the reaction, it wouldd't have happened. Now lemme try to get this back on track, because so far no one has mentioned the most tragic part of this story: that it was the girls parents who initiated this. And as the article said, they could face charges. And I think they should. But then again, putting the parents in prison isn't going to help the children. Poor girls. As maplenpg said, education is the answer, but it's going to be a long road... [Edited 4/15/17 11:36am]


I did so because I think both are valid and related conversations.

I totally agree that the parents should face charges. I think ALL adults that had prior knowledge should be charged.

Children are removed from families for MANY reasons in this country. Most of those reasons are probably valid, sometimes they are not. To me, FGM would be a valid reason.

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Reply #39 posted 04/15/17 11:47am

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jjhunsecker said:

djThunderfunk said:

To the last 3 posts, yeah, in the OP I mentioned the story and PREDICTED the reaction.

All other comments I have made about the reaction have been in response to statements of OTHERS that as predicted are focused only on the PC aspect. Yes there have been a couple of comment denouncing the practice but the vast majority of comments have focused on the PC comments.

I made a post where I stated the following:


Personally, I have a classical liberal opinion of FGM.

I believe that all women have a right to keep their genitals intact. Furthermore I believe that anyone involved in mutilating children should be regarded with at least as much disdain as pedophiles and that all parties involved including doctors, parents and religious advisors should be treated with the same regard as those that aid and abett pedophilia, REGARDLESS of culture OR religion.

Am I wrong?


No one replied to that because everyone is focused on fretting about the PC issue. As I predicted.

So I guess when I called this practice barbaric and horrible, that wasn't a strong ENOUGH condemnation for you?? Only exact lockstep agreement with whatever your position and comments on would suffice, I guess


It's PLENTY of condemnation for me.

You said MUCH more about the PC issue. Much, much more. wink

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Reply #40 posted 04/15/17 11:53am

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djThunderfunk said:



jjhunsecker said:


djThunderfunk said:

To the last 3 posts, yeah, in the OP I mentioned the story and PREDICTED the reaction.

All other comments I have made about the reaction have been in response to statements of OTHERS that as predicted are focused only on the PC aspect. Yes there have been a couple of comment denouncing the practice but the vast majority of comments have focused on the PC comments.

I made a post where I stated the following:


Personally, I have a classical liberal opinion of FGM.

I believe that all women have a right to keep their genitals intact. Furthermore I believe that anyone involved in mutilating children should be regarded with at least as much disdain as pedophiles and that all parties involved including doctors, parents and religious advisors should be treated with the same regard as those that aid and abett pedophilia, REGARDLESS of culture OR religion.

Am I wrong?


No one replied to that because everyone is focused on fretting about the PC issue. As I predicted.



So I guess when I called this practice barbaric and horrible, that wasn't a strong ENOUGH condemnation for you?? Only exact lockstep agreement with whatever your position and comments on would suffice, I guess


It's PLENTY of condemnation for me.

You said MUCH more about the PC issue. Much, much more. wink



Because that was what your OP was ABOUT!!!!
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Reply #41 posted 04/15/17 11:58am

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DJ & JJ, stop arguing. We all agree on this. grouphug
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Reply #42 posted 04/15/17 12:05pm

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jjhunsecker said:

djThunderfunk said:


It's PLENTY of condemnation for me.

You said MUCH more about the PC issue. Much, much more. wink

Because that was what your OP was ABOUT!!!!


I also said what happened, hoped all would condemn it and provided a link to the story. Then I made a whole post about how I personally feel about FGM.

I do think both conversations are valid, related and interesting.


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Reply #43 posted 04/15/17 12:06pm

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NorthC said:

DJ & JJ, stop arguing. We all agree on this. grouphug


cool

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Reply #44 posted 04/15/17 1:40pm

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Violence is never the answer Annteefa. But after seeing your antics in Hamburg am calling you out as a terrorist group.
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Reply #45 posted 04/15/17 2:07pm

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Guitarhero said:

Barbaric confused

In the UK too.

https://www.theguardian.c...-common-uk

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37364079

[Edited 4/15/17 13:43pm]


Just horrific.

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Reply #46 posted 04/15/17 5:03pm

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Female genital mutilation is NOT Islamic at all.

It does happen in some Muslim countries, yes, but Christians and paegans do it, too.

I´d say it´s more of an African tradition that a religious practice.

It is definitely not part of any religion but rather part of a tradition in certain countries on the African continent, and of course not practised by all Africans, not even in the same country.

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Reply #47 posted 04/15/17 5:04pm

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Male circumcision, on the other hand, is indeed an Islamic tradition, just like circumcision in the Jewish religion, although strictly speaking, it is not really a necessity but rather a recommendation.

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Reply #48 posted 04/15/17 5:08pm

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djThunderfunk said:

To the last 3 posts, yeah, in the OP I mentioned the story and PREDICTED the reaction.

All other comments I have made about the reaction have been in response to statements of OTHERS that as predicted are focused only on the PC aspect. Yes there have been a couple of comment denouncing the practice but the vast majority of comments have focused on the PC comments.

I made a post where I stated the following:


Personally, I have a classical liberal opinion of FGM.

I believe that all women have a right to keep their genitals intact. Furthermore I believe that anyone involved in mutilating children should be regarded with at least as much disdain as pedophiles and that all parties involved including doctors, parents and religious advisors should be treated with the same regard as those that aid and abett pedophilia, REGARDLESS of culture OR religion.

Am I wrong?


No one replied to that because everyone is focused on fretting about the PC issue. As I predicted.

No,you are not wrong at all.

Why are you even asking?

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Reply #49 posted 04/16/17 7:55am

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KoolEaze said:

Female genital mutilation is NOT Islamic at all.


It does happen in some Muslim countries, yes, but Christians and paegans do it, too.


I´d say it´s more of an African tradition that a religious practice.


It is definitely not part of any religion but rather part of a tradition in certain countries on the African continent, and of course not practised by all Africans, not even in the same country.


That's right. In Kenya for instance, it's practised by the Pokot and the Masai among others. The Kikuyu, who live a more modern lifestyle (they are the largest and most powerful tribe in the country) gave it up in the colonial times.
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Reply #50 posted 04/16/17 8:44am

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KoolEaze said:

Male circumcision, on the other hand, is indeed an Islamic tradition, just like circumcision in the Jewish religion, although strictly speaking, it is not really a necessity but rather a recommendation.

Right. I don't understand why females genitals are protected in America and males are not! Do we make excuses for cutting little boys in our culture? Both practices are barbaric and need to end. neutral

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Reply #51 posted 04/24/17 11:41am

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illimack said:

KoolEaze said:

Male circumcision, on the other hand, is indeed an Islamic tradition, just like circumcision in the Jewish religion, although strictly speaking, it is not really a necessity but rather a recommendation.

Right. I don't understand why females genitals are protected in America and males are not! Do we make excuses for cutting little boys in our culture? Both practices are barbaric and need to end. neutral

there is no equivalence between the two and the comparison is very weak. As a 'victim' of such, I still have not suffered and perceivable loss in response. The removal of a relatively small portion of what sure seems to be excess skin is not the same as removing that which is under the skin.

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Reply #52 posted 04/24/17 12:02pm

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To save time in future trolling threads such as these, I am going on the record right now and saying that I am firmly against all bad things.

Please bookmark this post and refer to it any time one wishes to know my position on a bad thing.

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Reply #53 posted 04/24/17 12:39pm

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RodeoSchro said:

To save time in future trolling threads such as these, I am going on the record right now and saying that I am firmly against all bad things.

Please bookmark this post and refer to it any time one wishes to know my position on a bad thing.

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I don´t get it. Maybe I´m just a bit naive. What makes you think that this is a trolling thread?

FGM is a thing, and it needs to be addressed.

I just disagree with the majority of people who think that there is a religious reason behind this because there´s not. It´s part of a terrible tradition but it is not required by Islam or any other religion, just like male circumcision is not really required in Islam or Christianity (not sure about the Jewish religion. Muslims MUST be circumcized ....at least that´s what they think...but circumcision is actually not a religious duty).

So you think the OP just wanted to troll us?

I doubt it.

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Reply #54 posted 04/24/17 1:43pm

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KoolEaze said:

RodeoSchro said:

To save time in future trolling threads such as these, I am going on the record right now and saying that I am firmly against all bad things.

Please bookmark this post and refer to it any time one wishes to know my position on a bad thing.

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I don´t get it. Maybe I´m just a bit naive. What makes you think that this is a trolling thread?

FGM is a thing, and it needs to be addressed.

I just disagree with the majority of people who think that there is a religious reason behind this because there´s not. It´s part of a terrible tradition but it is not required by Islam or any other religion, just like male circumcision is not really required in Islam or Christianity (not sure about the Jewish religion. Muslims MUST be circumcized ....at least that´s what they think...but circumcision is actually not a religious duty).

So you think the OP just wanted to troll us?

I doubt it.



Oh, no doubt djThunderfunk wanted to troll us. This is one of his tried and true methods - pick something disgusting, then wonder why (insert name here) hasn't condemned this already. It must be because (insert name here) supports it, right? Yadayadayada.

Read his OP and you can see the seeds being planted. This is not the first time dj has done this, and sadly it probably won't be the last.

PREDICTION - He'll respond to this post with feigned outrage. "How could you accuse me of this?!?" Yawn.

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Reply #55 posted 04/24/17 2:30pm

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DJ does this thing where he goes away and shows back up.

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Reply #56 posted 04/24/17 5:52pm

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illimack said:



KoolEaze said:


Male circumcision, on the other hand, is indeed an Islamic tradition, just like circumcision in the Jewish religion, although strictly speaking, it is not really a necessity but rather a recommendation.






Right. I don't understand why females genitals are protected in America and males are not! Do we make excuses for cutting little boys in our culture? Both practices are barbaric and need to end. neutral



I agree.
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Reply #57 posted 04/24/17 9:35pm

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illimack said:

KoolEaze said:

Male circumcision, on the other hand, is indeed an Islamic tradition, just like circumcision in the Jewish religion, although strictly speaking, it is not really a necessity but rather a recommendation.

Right. I don't understand why females genitals are protected in America and males are not! Do we make excuses for cutting little boys in our culture? Both practices are barbaric and need to end. neutral


I just knew the conversation would gravitate to male circumcision. LOL!

There's known medical benefits to it, including reduced rates of HPV, UTI's, HIV and cancer of the penis. It's also believed to make intercourse more pleasurable.

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Reply #58 posted 04/24/17 11:41pm

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Cutting off breasts comes with the benefit of eliminating the risk of breast cancer. Cutting off testicles would eliminate the danger of testicular cancer as well as probably improve a lot of behavioral issues.

Anyway, I don't care to argue the pros and cons of penile mutilation. I am indifferent to how anyone chooses to wear their junk. I just think it should be left up to the penis owner. But then I hold similar views about piercing infants' ears. I think any body modification should be the choice of the body owner.
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Reply #59 posted 04/24/17 11:46pm

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Pokeno4Money said:



illimack said:




KoolEaze said:


Male circumcision, on the other hand, is indeed an Islamic tradition, just like circumcision in the Jewish religion, although strictly speaking, it is not really a necessity but rather a recommendation.






Right. I don't understand why females genitals are protected in America and males are not! Do we make excuses for cutting little boys in our culture? Both practices are barbaric and need to end. neutral




I just knew the conversation would gravitate to male circumcision. LOL!

There's known medical benefits to it, including reduced rates of HPV, UTI's, HIV and cancer of the penis. It's also believed to make intercourse more pleasurable.



It can be argued that female genital mutilation also reduces those risks by making sex painful or uncomfortable and therefore significantly reducing sexual activity. And yet here we are talking about how unnecessary and barbaric that is.
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