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Reply #120 posted 04/09/17 3:00am

midnightmover

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What a joke. I wish that I as a black woman could be "trans-racial" when it suited me. Yeah, job interviews, interactions with police, etc. The fact that she's desperately trying to co-opt black identity speaks volumes of her WHITE PRIVILEGE! Just imagine a black person trying this mess. Geez.

Yep. And how about getting a well paid job speaking about the white experience?

“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #121 posted 04/09/17 3:07am

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Just to clarify, I have no problem with white people devoting themselves to black issues. It's just when they take jobs that are specifically earmarked for black people that I have a problem. It would be like the boss of a huge corporation being boss of a trade union too. Just not meant to happen.

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Reply #122 posted 04/09/17 5:13am

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midnightmover said:



SeventeenDayze said:


What a joke. I wish that I as a black woman could be "trans-racial" when it suited me. Yeah, job interviews, interactions with police, etc. The fact that she's desperately trying to co-opt black identity speaks volumes of her WHITE PRIVILEGE! Just imagine a black person trying this mess. Geez.



Yep. And how about getting a well paid job speaking about the white experience?


If she didn't try to claim a different racial identity and wants to get paid for speaking of her white experience, then so be it. But she can't speak for the life experience of Blacks, because she isn't Black, and at the same time rejects her own racial identity. How can she give speeches to others on race, when she doesn't even respect or accept her own racial identity? What is the message she is sending to her own racial group? Young white girls?

It's one thing to discuss/raise awareness of the problems of racism in this country and others, and the negative effects of white supremacy beliefs/teachings, but who is going to respect an individual or take them seriously, when that individual doesn't respect or accept their own racial identity, and try to change it? If a Black person did this, I'd feel the same way. I'd wonder if self-hatred plays a part in any of it. Despising one's racial identity, to the point you want to change it, well it's clear there is a whole lot of emotional baggage/hangups that individual is carrying. Thing is, one cannot escape the racial identity one is born with.
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Reply #123 posted 04/09/17 5:26am

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midnightmover said:

She revealed in the BBC interview that her lie (and that's what it was - a lie) began when she found black people assumed that she was black because she spoke on black issues. That was what made her realize that she could easily present herself as black. That confirms what I said about this at the time. Dolezal was just exploiting the foolishness of millions of Americans who define the term "black" so broadly that it's almost meaningless. In a way she's done people a favor by exposing this.

The fact that she got a well paid and prestigious job as a leader of the NAACP tells you an awful lot. Even people working in the race profession in America have got their heads totally up their asses and are giving jobs to white people fraudulently claiming to be black. G. K. Butterfield (is that his name?) has also got a great, well-paid job speaking about the black experience even though he's white.

These white fraudsters are taking jobs away from black people. Those jobs should not be going to white people but blacks are allowing it to happen because so many of them still believe in the ridiculous "one-drop" idea that makes them define "black" way too loosely. Maybe Kim Kardashian is black. After all she's married to a black man, right? Might as well give her a pass too.



I have no issue with anyone raising awareness/educating others on race issues in this society, and fighting the good fight for racial justice, as long as they stay true to who they are, and are honest about the history and truths about race and racism. The difference with Rachel, is that she deceived many by 'claiming' she is Black, even going so far as trying to change her appearance/racial identity. She fits the 'fraud' description. I can't take her seriously because of her past lies and intentions, and now getting paid to impersonate a Black person's experience, and at the same time, benefits from white privilege.

She is an insult to the real-life injustices/tragedies of Blacks like Sandra Bland, Trayvon Martin and Amadou Diallo who paid a heavy price, for their racial identities. Rachel's motives/actions belittles the real-life, racial injustices, many Blacks experience on a daily basis, as Blacks do not get a 'sympathy or excuse pass' from society for their racial identities.

Rachel needs mental help.
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Reply #124 posted 04/09/17 5:38am

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Reply #125 posted 04/09/17 6:14am

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free2bfreeda said:



Dasein said:




free2bfreeda said:



dove


by highlighting the positive contributions r dolezal has rendered, one could ask, is it not possible that she IS doing her best to be real from her heart sans her physiological makeup?


while so many focus on her not walking her own walk or talking her own talk as a white woman, why can't anyone focus on how hard she has worked on trying to make things better while on (black) watch.


sure her attempts might be perceived as a mis configuration of logic, however at least she has done something rather that nothing.


i may be in agreement with some of what is said by those who critisize r. dolezel, but do i see those critics doing anything to make a positive social changea for black/african americans?


one can walk the walk and talk the talk, but if they do nothing in their (black) walk then i say gtf outta heah.


until one backs up their critcisms with some tangible action(s), then they are exposing a fraudulent profile and emitting a lot of bull. imo.


rolleyes


just sayin'



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Thank you for posting this. I want to respond to it, but will have to actually spend some time
thinking about it before I do so.



ur welcome and thx Dasein. (the original entire post edited for saving bytes sake)



dove


(i need to clarify the embolded statement in that 2elijah is one of the most dedicated and is totally factual knowledge wise in her quest to educate the ignorant.


imo she is dedicated in doing her best to make things better, i.e., " to make a positive social changes for black/african americans." i've learned so much from her post within the p&r form.)



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Just seeing this. Thank you Freeda. I just like telling the truth about race/racism in this country, no matter how harsh and ugly those truths and facts are. I also don't force anyone to agree with my opinions on the topic, they are welcome to disagree, but I also don't allow anyone to tell me I can't discuss the topic as well.

I don't sugar-coat about the topic of race/racism either, because for too long, many people have embraced lies about race/racism in this society, without looking at the bigger picture, and asking questions or doing research, to find out about the history of racism, and why it plays a major and negative role within our society, and globally. Learning about human history, the origins of humans, DNA research, the research of many genetic scientists/anthropologists, the design of the system of racism in America, and the intention behind it, etc. There's more to the topic than many bother to take the time to research. I think if many made the effort to doing some of that, there'd be better discussions on the topic here. But again..thanks. hug
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Reply #126 posted 04/09/17 12:12pm

SeventeenDayze

2elijah said:

midnightmover said:

Yep. And how about getting a well paid job speaking about the white experience?

If she didn't try to claim a different racial identity and wants to get paid for speaking of her white experience, then so be it. But she can't speak for the life experience of Blacks, because she isn't Black, and at the same time rejects her own racial identity. How can she give speeches to others on race, when she doesn't even respect or accept her own racial identity? What is the message she is sending to her own racial group? Young white girls? It's one thing to discuss/raise awareness of the problems of racism in this country and others, and the negative effects of white supremacy beliefs/teachings, but who is going to respect an individual or take them seriously, when that individual doesn't respect or accept their own racial identity, and try to change it? If a Black person did this, I'd feel the same way. I'd wonder if self-hatred plays a part in any of it. Despising one's racial identity, to the point you want to change it, well it's clear there is a whole lot of emotional baggage/hangups that individual is carrying. Thing is, one cannot escape the racial identity one is born with. [Edited 4/9/17 5:15am]

Exactly.

This chick is a fraud and she used deception to pretend to be something she's not. She's a liar and she's also in serious denial about her reality. How can she be trusted? What's so special about rejecting whiteness for a black identity in a country that operates, was founded on and perpetuates white supremacy? Her rejection of her white identity in favor of a manufactured black identity even further proves the point that she benefits from white privilege! What a moron.

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Reply #127 posted 04/09/17 12:14pm

SeventeenDayze

midnightmover said:

SeventeenDayze said:

What a joke. I wish that I as a black woman could be "trans-racial" when it suited me. Yeah, job interviews, interactions with police, etc. The fact that she's desperately trying to co-opt black identity speaks volumes of her WHITE PRIVILEGE! Just imagine a black person trying this mess. Geez.

Yep. And how about getting a well paid job speaking about the white experience?

Right.

But instead she wants to continue to perpetuate a fraud or at least try to claim that she's "trans-racial" and then create a movement in which true ethnic identity could be challenged and then erased at the hands of someone who is in denial about her own white privilege.

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Reply #128 posted 04/10/17 8:20am

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Off-topic but related. There is controversy going on in the art world regarding a painting included in the Whitney Biennial, NYC. A white woman painted an abstract picture of Emmet Till in his casket called Open Casket (from a 1955 photograph). Emmet Till's mother chose to show what was done to her son when he was murdered by white supremacists. People have been doing silent protests in the museum, blocking the painting, some want it destroyed. The painter (Dana Schutz) is not very political in most of her work. She says the painting is not and has never been for sale. She is being vilified by some for trying to make $$ from black misery. Other artists, including black artists, are backing up her right to make art. The museum is standing behind the choice and has left the painting up, through June 11.

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Reply #129 posted 04/10/17 8:22am

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the follwing is from the south african press:

Rachel Dolezal is coming to South Africa

: https://readinglist.click...th-africa/

Rachel Dolezal, who is currently on a book tour, is coming to South Africa for a dialogue on race.

Dolezal, who was the subject of worldwide condemnation in 2015 when it was proved she had lied about being African American, will be a special guest of the inaugural public meeting of the Quest for Non Racial South African Society Dialogue (QfNRSASD).

Dolezal is a former civil rights activist, Africana studies instructor and was president of the Spokane chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

She is currently promoting her book, In Full Color: Finding My Place in a Black and White World, and has been in the news for claiming she is a transracial woman in a white body, and insisting that she faces ‘more stigma for race f...r fluidity.

Dolezal tweeted about her upcoming trip to Johannesburg:

If you're in South Africa I hope to see you soon! Seating limited. RSVP to: info@tsiloab.co.za pic.twitter.com/dApU0EQfBO

— Rachel Anne Doležal (@RachelADolezal) April 5, 2017

It seems the event is being organised by Bishop Clyde NS Ramalaine, who calls himself a ‘Political Analyst & Convenor of QfNRSASD’. He is also the Managing Director of Tsiloab, according to their facebook page.

Ramalaine also writes for WeeklyXposé, where in a recent piece on the Spur incident he outlines what he sees as QfNRSASD’s mission: to move beyond race and ‘find new means to remythologise our current identity construction’.

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note: i am still out as far as how i feel and how i perceive r. dolezal's journey. not sure about her and her intentions at this point.

it seems that there is a lot of negative feed back from the majority of south africans on her upcoming visit to promote her book.

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as in the following:

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Rachel Dolezal Begins Press Tour for Her Book Thanks to Big Media Giving Her the Time of Day

: http://www.okayafrica.com...big-media/

March 28 2017

a quote:

How can she take the legacy of those who fought for the South African struggle and turn it upside down to fit her la-la land of a world? How can she oversimplify being ‘transracial’ and ‘living in a non-racial society’ where it comes down to choice, when there are still systems in place on the continent and all over the world that are remnants of racism, colonialism and even apartheid; when people are still dying, in 2017, over the color of their skin?

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as stated before, "i'll wait and see the results" after her presentation in south africa." at that time i feel i will have a less neutral opinion on r. dolezal.

[Edited 4/10/17 8:30am]

“Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents,” : https://thinkprogress.org...fb6e18544a
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Reply #130 posted 04/11/17 8:17am

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more fodder for the topic:

Human rights group petitions against Dolezal visit

Rachel_Dolezal_Facebook.width-800.jpg

April 10 2017 : https://www.jacarandafm.c...zal-visit/

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A local human rights group has started a petition to stop US race activist Rachel Dolezal from speaking at a South African anti-racism event.

Dolezal, who is known for identifying as being black despite being born white, is expected to visit the country to talk about her experience. She is expected in the country within the next eight days.

In 2015, Dolezal was accused of deception after her parents revealed she was white. Dolezal subsequently resigned as head of a local branch of an anti-racism organisation in the US.

She is scheduled to attend the inaugural event of the group Quest for Non Racial South African Society Dialogue (QfNRSASD), which promotes racial harmony among South Africans.

But civil society group Understanding Decolonization and Cultural Appropriation has now started a petition to stop Dolezal from speaking at the event. The petition already has over 50 signatures.

"Offensive is not a strong enough word. In this country we are still unpacking white supremacy and its impact and how violent it can be. This is definitely not one of the people we would want to talk to us about racial identities," says founder Yanisha Teelock.

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who is Yanisha Teelock?

: https://www.dailymaverick...OzwaUXyvcs

193x285q70Yanisha.jpg

Yanisha Teelock Lallah is a researcher and post graduate student in Languages at the university of Cape Town. She is currently working towards a research based campaign to raise awareness about cultural appropriation in third world countries.

dove

okay at the point i'm realizing the biggest offense from r. dolezal is the fact that she lied to the naacp.

and she has warbled with identifying black when she made an attempt to sue (all black) Howard University for alledged discrimination.

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as follows:

Rachel Dolezal Sued Howard University for Alleged Discrimination That Favored African-American

June 6 2015

: http://abcnews.go.com/US/...d=31787446

The former head of the Spokane, Washington, chapter of the NAACP once unsuccessfully sued historically black Howard University and the chairman of its art department for allegedly discriminating against her in order to favor African-American students, according to court papers.

Rachel Dolezal, then known as Rachel Moore, said she was denied a teaching assistant position 14 years ago based on race, among other factors, according to the judgment from the District of Columbia Court of Appeals. But the court noted that the chairman did not learn of her interest in an assistantship until after he says he had filled all of the positions.

April 19th is "just around the bend."

note:

watch the compliation of abc news 2015 videos and observe the progression of r. dolezal's true racial exposure. at : : http://abcnews.go.com/US/...d=31787446

(stay on the page there's about 3 or 4 news videos.)

[Edited 4/11/17 9:30am]

“Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents,” : https://thinkprogress.org...fb6e18544a
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Reply #131 posted 04/11/17 8:55am

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SeventeenDayze said:

What a joke. I wish that I as a black woman could be "trans-racial" when it suited me. Yeah, job interviews, interactions with police, etc. The fact that she's desperately trying to co-opt black identity speaks volumes of her WHITE PRIVILEGE! Just imagine a black person trying this mess. Geez.



But isn't that the polnt? Surely a white person "disowning" their whiteness in order to claim to be black isn't doing that for any kind of financial gain. I'm sure we'd all agree that being white is still a big advantage in today's USA, so if you are white why would you want to change that?

Whatever her motivations may be, I don't think that one of them is the desire to change race in order to have it easier.

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Reply #132 posted 04/11/17 11:19am

free2bfreeda

here's something to check out.

this a upclose and personal exposure on r. dolezal.

“Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents,” : https://thinkprogress.org...fb6e18544a
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Reply #133 posted 04/11/17 11:46am

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RodeoSchro said:

SeventeenDayze said:

What a joke. I wish that I as a black woman could be "trans-racial" when it suited me. Yeah, job interviews, interactions with police, etc. The fact that she's desperately trying to co-opt black identity speaks volumes of her WHITE PRIVILEGE! Just imagine a black person trying this mess. Geez.



But isn't that the polnt? Surely a white person "disowning" their whiteness in order to claim to be black isn't doing that for any kind of financial gain. I'm sure we'd all agree that being white is still a big advantage in today's USA, so if you are white why would you want to change that?

Whatever her motivations may be, I don't think that one of them is the desire to change race in order to have it easier.

It's obviously some deep-seated psychological issues that she's bringing to the table, and perhaps the race dilemna in America does not need her baggage added to the discussion, no matter how "well intentioned" she might be

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Reply #134 posted 04/11/17 11:49am

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jjhunsecker said:

RodeoSchro said:



But isn't that the polnt? Surely a white person "disowning" their whiteness in order to claim to be black isn't doing that for any kind of financial gain. I'm sure we'd all agree that being white is still a big advantage in today's USA, so if you are white why would you want to change that?

Whatever her motivations may be, I don't think that one of them is the desire to change race in order to have it easier.

It's obviously some deep-seated psychological issues that she's bringing to the table, and perhaps the race dilemna in America does not need her baggage added to the discussion, no matter how "well intentioned" she might be



Probably so, but I sure don't see this as "white privilege" like seventeendayze called it.

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Reply #135 posted 04/11/17 11:54am

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free2bfreeda said:

more fodder for the topic:


Human rights group petitions against Dolezal visit


Rachel_Dolezal_Facebook.width-800.jpg


April 10 2017 : https://www.jacarandafm.c...zal-visit/


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A local human rights group has started a petition to stop US race activist Rachel Dolezal from speaking at a South African anti-racism event.


Dolezal, who is known for identifying as being black despite being born white, is expected to visit the country to talk about her experience. She is expected in the country within the next eight days.


In 2015, Dolezal was accused of deception after her parents revealed she was white. Dolezal subsequently resigned as head of a local branch of an anti-racism organisation in the US.


She is scheduled to attend the inaugural event of the group Quest for Non Racial South African Society Dialogue (QfNRSASD), which promotes racial harmony among South Africans.


But civil society group Understanding Decolonization and Cultural Appropriation has now started a petition to stop Dolezal from speaking at the event. The petition already has over 50 signatures.


"Offensive is not a strong enough word. In this country we are still unpacking white supremacy and its impact and how violent it can be. This is definitely not one of the people we would want to talk to us about racial identities," says founder Yanisha Teelock.


~


who is Yanisha Teelock?


: https://www.dailymaverick...OzwaUXyvcs


193x285q70Yanisha.jpg


Yanisha Teelock Lallah is a researcher and post graduate student in Languages at the university of Cape Town. She is currently working towards a research based campaign to raise awareness about cultural appropriation in third world countries.



dove


okay at the point i'm realizing the biggest offense from r. dolezal is the fact that she lied to the naacp.


and she has warbled with identifying black when she made an attempt to sue (all black) Howard University for alledged discrimination.


~


as follows:


Rachel Dolezal Sued Howard University for Alleged Discrimination That Favored African-American


June 6 2015



: http://abcnews.go.com/US/...d=31787446


The former head of the Spokane, Washington, chapter of the NAACP once unsuccessfully sued historically black Howard University and the chairman of its art department for allegedly discriminating against her in order to favor African-American students, according to court papers.


Rachel Dolezal, then known as Rachel Moore, said she was denied a teaching assistant position 14 years ago based on race, among other factors, according to the judgment from the District of Columbia Court of Appeals. But the court noted that the chairman did not learn of her interest in an assistantship until after he says he had filled all of the positions.



April 19th is "just around the bend."


note:


watch the compliation of abc news 2015 videos and observe the progression of r. dolezal's true racial exposure. at : : http://abcnews.go.com/US/...d=31787446


(stay on the page there's about 3 or 4 news videos.)


[Edited 4/11/17 9:30am]



Good, I'm glad they are petitioning her, because she still benefits from white privilege, while posing as an African-American. What she is doing is an insult to those South Africans whose family members suffered, from the abuses of Apartheid,just for being Black, because of an ignorant, racist system there, that basically had the same, ugly intentions of the racial discrimination laws of America's past. It's one thing to recognize racial injustices of a racial/ethnic group, and standing with them to fight it, but changing your actual racial identity to reflect/imitate theirs, is taking it over the ledge. I have no issue of any individual embracing or wearing their hairstyles or fashion styles known to be common within other racial groups, because many within all racial groups have borrowed hairstyles/ fashion from one another for years, but denying your own racial identity, and claiming you are another is questionable.
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Reply #136 posted 04/11/17 11:59am

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SeventeenDayze said:



midnightmover said:




SeventeenDayze said:


What a joke. I wish that I as a black woman could be "trans-racial" when it suited me. Yeah, job interviews, interactions with police, etc. The fact that she's desperately trying to co-opt black identity speaks volumes of her WHITE PRIVILEGE! Just imagine a black person trying this mess. Geez.



Yep. And how about getting a well paid job speaking about the white experience?



Right.


But instead she wants to continue to perpetuate a fraud or at least try to claim that she's "trans-racial" and then create a movement in which true ethnic identity could be challenged and then erased at the hands of someone who is in denial about her own white privilege.


Exactly!! She is a fraud, because once again, the fact that she is White, and regardless how much Fashion Fair Brown Sugar makeup she puts on, she's still a White woman and benefits from white privilege, in a country that designed that type of system to benefit Whites.
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Reply #137 posted 04/11/17 12:04pm

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RodeoSchro said:

jjhunsecker said:

It's obviously some deep-seated psychological issues that she's bringing to the table, and perhaps the race dilemna in America does not need her baggage added to the discussion, no matter how "well intentioned" she might be



Probably so, but I sure don't see this as "white privilege" like seventeendayze called it.

You could say that she has the "privilege" to return to "whiteness" whenever the mood strikes her ...

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Reply #138 posted 04/11/17 12:08pm

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purplepoppy said:

Off-topic but related. There is controversy going on in the art world regarding a painting included in the Whitney Biennial, NYC. A white woman painted an abstract picture of Emmet Till in his casket called Open Casket (from a 1955 photograph). Emmet Till's mother chose to show what was done to her son when he was murdered by white supremacists. People have been doing silent protests in the museum, blocking the painting, some want it destroyed. The painter (Dana Schutz) is not very political in most of her work. She says the painting is not and has never been for sale. She is being vilified by some for trying to make $$ from black misery. Other artists, including black artists, are backing up her right to make art. The museum is standing behind the choice and has left the painting up, through June 11.

[Edited 4/10/17 8:25am]

I read this story a few weeks ago, and I think the reaction is absurd. An artist should be able to create whatever they want , even if it references different cultures and races, as long as they address the subject with respect. This is taking the idea of "cultural appropriation" way too far, to ridiculous extremes

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Reply #139 posted 04/11/17 12:13pm

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Sued Howard University (as a white person) for discrimination because she felt she was denied a teachng position? Seems like Rachel is pretty much all about Rachel.

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Reply #140 posted 04/11/17 1:05pm

free2bfreeda

a family member of mine say's it seems the question that should be asked is:

what are here honest intentions.

anyway,

here's an interesting article:

The contradiction at the heart of Rachel Dolezal’s ‘transracialism’

April 11, 2017 7.20am EDT | : http://theconversation.co...lism-75820

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last three paragraphs of an (imo) outstanding article:

Dolezals’s problem is this: to choose one’s racial identity irrespective of inheritance is tantamount to an admission that race does not exist. It would be one thing to adopt a black identity as a show of political resistance and solidarity, but Dolezal is instead in danger of laying claim to what is arguably a racist fantasy of “blackness”. If we fail to take her seriously, we run the risk both of ignoring the critical issues at stake and, worse, accepting uncritically Dolezal’s repurposing of racial ideology. If we are to accept that there is any such thing as “transracial” then it should be as an opportunity for all of us to transcend the politically expedient but specious categories of race.

Instead, by claiming race as some kind of mysterious inner state divorced either from its political, historical or ethnic specificity, Dolezal could do the opposite of transcending race; rather, she runs the risk of reinforcing racial and racist models by insisting that race is an innate, inner experience rather than something imposed from without.

If Dolezal is genuine in her claim that “race is a lie”, then she must recognise that her claims to transracialism are also lies. She simply cannot have it both ways; because race either is, or it isn’t.

the whole concept of r dolezal's self image is now imo a dichotomous situation. is she about to experience a reckoning? if so will she make sense in her new explanations?

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“Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents,” : https://thinkprogress.org...fb6e18544a
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Reply #141 posted 04/11/17 1:14pm

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jjhunsecker said:

RodeoSchro said:



Probably so, but I sure don't see this as "white privilege" like seventeendayze called it.

You could say that she has the "privilege" to return to "whiteness" whenever the mood strikes her ...


LOL, I guess one could say that, but that's a stretch and there are many terms that better describe that ability.

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Reply #142 posted 04/11/17 1:24pm

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She has stated she drew herself as black from age 5. Parents deny this.

She says she got "full custody" of her adopted brother Ezra. Parents called her a liar. He moved to live with her the last couple of years of high school, at his request, and her agreeance. She had guardianship of him, not custody.

She called some other black dude "dad" and she saw him as her father. Parents said she called the dad "papa" until about 2011/2012 when all this started.

She told her aforementioned brother to "not blow [her] cover", and that her image only started to change around that time. He told Fox news that she was the white girl we've seen in other pics until that point. (This was the first round of her being outed a couple of years ago.)

She said she never said she was African-American, but only identified as black and understood the black experience. She's on tape saying "I'm African-American".

Montell Williams said "I dressed up as Dracula for Halloween, it doesn't mean I was born in a coffin. She's a liar." (This was a day or two ago.)

She's so lost in her lies and denial of self, she's probably going to come out as an Asian-Jewish Rabbi who only eats Snickerdoodles, only drinks Mello Yello, and only makes right turns next month, then a dude after that.


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Reply #143 posted 04/11/17 1:24pm

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RodeoSchro said:

jjhunsecker said:

You could say that she has the "privilege" to return to "whiteness" whenever the mood strikes her ...


LOL, I guess one could say that, but that's a stretch and there are many terms that better describe that ability.

She takes off the makeup, and loosens the corn rows, and she'll never be followed in a store again, or pulled over by the cops for no reason...she has options

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Reply #144 posted 04/11/17 1:26pm

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jjhunsecker said:

RodeoSchro said:


LOL, I guess one could say that, but that's a stretch and there are many terms that better describe that ability.

She takes off the makeup, and loosens the corn rows, and she'll never be followed in a store again, or pulled over by the cops for no reason...she has options


In a CNN interview with Don Lemon, Montell Williams said the exact same thing. It's all a bit like Eddie Murphy going out as a white guy to get people's reactions, or some racist on Dr. Phil being made to look black to see how people react to black folks, or a skinny person being dressed in a fat suit, etc. She's just a bad social experiment. PartyCity is closed.

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Reply #145 posted 04/11/17 1:32pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

jjhunsecker said:

She takes off the makeup, and loosens the corn rows, and she'll never be followed in a store again, or pulled over by the cops for no reason...she has options


In a CNN interview with Don Lemon, Montell Williams said the exact same thing. It's all a bit like Eddie Murphy going out as a white guy to get people's reactions, or some racist on Dr. Phil being made to look black to see how people react to black folks, or a skinny person being dressed in a fat suit, etc. She's just a bad social experiment. PartyCity is closed.

Do you remember a reality show on cable, probably about 7 or 8 years ago, where they took two families, one black and one white, and reversed their races with make-up and prothestics, so they could see what life was like to be the other race ? I can't recall the name of the show, but I recall that the white family was a mother, father, and teenage daughter .

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Reply #146 posted 04/11/17 1:57pm

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Reply #147 posted 04/11/17 2:53pm

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jjhunsecker said:

TrivialPursuit said:


In a CNN interview with Don Lemon, Montell Williams said the exact same thing. It's all a bit like Eddie Murphy going out as a white guy to get people's reactions, or some racist on Dr. Phil being made to look black to see how people react to black folks, or a skinny person being dressed in a fat suit, etc. She's just a bad social experiment. PartyCity is closed.

Do you remember a reality show on cable, probably about 7 or 8 years ago, where they took two families, one black and one white, and reversed their races with make-up and prothestics, so they could see what life was like to be the other race ? I can't recall the name of the show, but I recall that the white family was a mother, father, and teenage daughter .


I'm going to say no right now, but I'm the type that in a day's time, my memory will be jogged, and I might remember it. It sure almost sorta sounds familiar.

I just watched a repeat of Dr. Phil on OWN the other day. They had opposing points of view in the Dr. Phil house. A black woman who hated white people. A racist white guy. A skinny 20-something female who thought all fat people were lazy. A really fat guy who was anything but. They put the racist guy in black face, prosthetics, and put him out in public. People bought he was black, and he saw how he was treated. The black woman took great joy in being there through the transformation process. (They also dressed up the skinny gal in a fat suit & sent her out with the fat guy.) It was eye-opening for the racist guy, and I do believe he changed his attitude a bit.

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Reply #148 posted 04/11/17 3:06pm

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jjhunsecker said:

TrivialPursuit said:


In a CNN interview with Don Lemon, Montell Williams said the exact same thing. It's all a bit like Eddie Murphy going out as a white guy to get people's reactions, or some racist on Dr. Phil being made to look black to see how people react to black folks, or a skinny person being dressed in a fat suit, etc. She's just a bad social experiment. PartyCity is closed.

Do you remember a reality show on cable, probably about 7 or 8 years ago, where they took two families, one black and one white, and reversed their races with make-up and prothestics, so they could see what life was like to be the other race ? I can't recall the name of the show, but I recall that the white family was a mother, father, and teenage daughter .

Was it Black.White? Was on FX 2006. I saw some of it.

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Reply #149 posted 04/11/17 7:33pm

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purplepoppy said:



jjhunsecker said:




TrivialPursuit said:




In a CNN interview with Don Lemon, Montell Williams said the exact same thing. It's all a bit like Eddie Murphy going out as a white guy to get people's reactions, or some racist on Dr. Phil being made to look black to see how people react to black folks, or a skinny person being dressed in a fat suit, etc. She's just a bad social experiment. PartyCity is closed.




Do you remember a reality show on cable, probably about 7 or 8 years ago, where they took two families, one black and one white, and reversed their races with make-up and prothestics, so they could see what life was like to be the other race ? I can't recall the name of the show, but I recall that the white family was a mother, father, and teenage daughter .




Was it Black.White? Was on FX 2006. I saw some of it.


I believe that was the show
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